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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] UNIVERSA | Blockchain Protocol for Business on: April 11, 2019, 11:24:21 PM
Reminder: Universa is a top-tier shitcoin with an amateur team. Team is stuck with 2017 mentality on how to run a successful crypto business and coin









Looks like sb had a bad day ;(
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] UNIVERSA | Blockchain Protocol for Business on: January 19, 2019, 02:10:09 AM

Convincingly written but those who really know the project ain't buying it. Yes, some of your points are true to some extent but hugely exaggerated and some are just ridiculous.

For example, you say this: UTN is useless, does not function anywhere outside of the systems designed for it
Why should it function outside the system designed for it??



UTN has no purpose/uesless as long as UTNP exists. The total UTN supply/blockchain has $0 value, simply because you can't trade coins. On the other hand, shitcoin UTNP has a meager value, based on what people can actually do with it. That's what you learn in middle school economics courses, supply and demand, the most fundamental underlying aspect of any: store of value, commodity, currency or whatever you want to call something that is perceived to have value.

If i gave you a rocket, but it can never have fuel tanks, is it worth any more than the steel/alloys and components it's made of?



Btw, look how effective that Universa strategy is working out (1+ years on), because adoption by big talkers and a few useless businesses is working out. Absolutely pathetic volume. I can make a erc20 token right now and have it listed to 2 exchanges, and it'll have more liquidity and effectiveness than this 28mil ICO. I can make a deal with some random business in Africa to adopt shitcoin, and they woulden't be the wiser.

Project is run by amateurs, stargazers and talkers. Shills are too blind from staring* at the moon for too long, while their masters are laughing behind close doors with all that ICO they gave them. Oh, i guess most of you forgot, you actually pay people to work for YOUR monetary interests when you invest, not their interests. Did everyone suddenly forget what investing means?


Don't ever defend someone or make excuses for them because you have a monetary incentive to do so (quite common in crypto), always demand more, or you're ultimately going to get taken advantage of by the wolves; especially in crypto.



A slight correction. UTN has no purpose/uesless as long as UTNP exists. The *** hell? Cheesy UTN is of the highest purpose for the tech, simply because it's a digital coupon for Universa's thingies like Mainnet and everything within. UTNP is just a goddang placeholder which exists only for those who are keen on trading and everything related. Yes, it takes time for the exchanges to adopt a token/coin, totally ok and normal. Funny that someone still talks about it.
And yes, classic economic guy, do you really think everything in crypto is determined by supply and demand? Haven't you heard of armies of speculators? Do you REALLY think every crypto in the world got its price in result of 'organic price discovery'? Any price is a freaking result of both at the same time - sup/dem and speculation. Ha-ha. Nice shit talking without making any sense. Keep up talking more about volume and team's strategy Cheesy


Russian shill account, obviously apart of the team, how many Russians linger in the English sections of BTT, especially on a Russian blockchain thread. Classic tactics, but doesn't work anymore in this era.


Despite his attempts (2 of them) at damage control, he actually made my case and proved some my points, without even being aware of it; thank you. You were better off not responding imo, you did a great disservice to your тoвapищи.

Funny thing is that I wasn't even trying to defend Universa in this thread (I could have, but not intentionally). It was just about you making 0 sense (once again).
Don't be so defensive, we're trying to have some constructive conversation going on, a sole shittalking won't help here.
p.s. I may be slav, but who said I'm Russian thou? Cheesy
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] UNIVERSA | Blockchain Protocol for Business on: January 18, 2019, 11:00:28 PM

Convincingly written but those who really know the project ain't buying it. Yes, some of your points are true to some extent but hugely exaggerated and some are just ridiculous.

For example, you say this: UTN is useless, does not function anywhere outside of the systems designed for it
Why should it function outside the system designed for it??



UTN has no purpose/uesless as long as UTNP exists. The total UTN supply/blockchain has $0 value, simply because you can't trade coins. On the other hand, shitcoin UTNP has a meager value, based on what people can actually do with it. That's what you learn in middle school economics courses, supply and demand, the most fundamental underlying aspect of any: store of value, commodity, currency or whatever you want to call something that is perceived to have value.

If i gave you a rocket, but it can never have fuel tanks, is it worth any more than the steel/alloys and components it's made of?



Btw, look how effective that Universa strategy is working out, because adoption by big talkers and a few useless businesses is working out. Absolutely pathetic volume. I can make a erc20 token right now and have it listed to 2 exchanges, and it'll have more liquidity and effectiveness than this 28mil ICO. I can make a deal with some random business in Africa to adopt shitcoin, and they woulden't be the wiser.

Project is run by amateurs, stargazers and talkers. Shills are too blind from staring at the moon for too long, while their masters are laughing behind close doors with all that sweet ICO funding you gave them. Oh, i guess most of you forgot, you actually paid these people to work for you.


Don't ever defend someone or make excuses for them because you have a monetary incentive to do so, always demand more, or you're ultimately going to get taken advantage of by the wolves; especially in crypto.



A slight correction. UTN has no purpose/uesless as long as UTNP exists. The *** hell? Cheesy UTN is of the highest purpose for the tech, simply because it's a digital coupon for Universa's thingies like Mainnet and everything within. UTNP is just a goddang placeholder which exists only for those who are keen on trading and everything related. Yes, it takes time for the exchanges to adopt a token/coin, totally ok and normal. Funny that someone still talks about it.
And yes, classic economic guy, do you really think everything in crypto is determined by supply and demand? Haven't you heard of armies of speculators? Do you REALLY think every crypto in the world got its price in result of 'organic price discovery'? Any price is a freaking result of both at the same time - sup/dem and speculation. Ha-ha. Nice shit talking without making any sense. Keep up talking more about volume and team's strategy Cheesy

4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] UNIVERSA | Blockchain Protocol for Business on: January 17, 2019, 10:54:28 PM

They didn't even make this guide

"This has been made in collaboration with our community and the lovely people behind https://blockchainstories.com"

Useless team behind Universa, they talk and talk, but results are non-existent. You won't find much competent talent outside a couple of devs

Your thoughts seem to be rather interesting, indeed.
What are 'existent results' from your point of view? You do not count Mainnet, swap option, smart contracts, hypertokens, etc., do you?
Needless to say, the team members are the ones who have been always helping users on Telegram, Facebook, email, and many other social networks. Do you still claim we they useless? That would be a quite queer thing to say.

Let's outline the facts briefly:

- Mainnet was launched in April 2018, fine. Great, huge success.

- Swap Option was made available in August-Sep 2018, sure, very long overdue, by this point many already become disheartened over Universas lack of progress. Guess what though, those UTN you swapped for have no real use atm, swap to UTNP and save yourself the hassle.

- Hypertokens, utterly useless. Lets examine what we know, to this day Universa has a 14k volume across all markets, a pitiful sum, feels like i'm back in 2013. How does volume come into play? It's the only metric from the outside anyone has to gauge adoption of Universa, and if adoption is not there, the use of Hypertokens (ie a stablecoin and pairs) is utterly useless.

- User-interface is in misery, with 3 access points to go into the wallet, and do various of tasks. Each system does something differnt, one system makes smart contracts, the other one does swapping and the 3rd one you can chat and send users UTN.

- UTN is useless, does not function anywhere outside of the systems designed for it, we are still trading ERC-20 Tokens, which has more use and more convenient than anything the Universa team has created. UTNP gets more TXs than anything else on UTN's chain. Why? Simple, the team designed a system that requires a full-fledged integration into an exchange and outside sources. Thus, listing UTN on any exchange, becomes a very difficult and obscure task. It won't be months, even another year from now until we see UTN actually listed on any exchange.

- Transacting UTN is a very cumbersome, not friendly and virtually unusable. When is the last time you gave someone a file (containing 100 USD), and they had to upload it to redeem it? Never, again useless system. UTN transaction is like a giftcard, instead you're dealing with physical files.

- Team continues to explain to the community about B2B, their essential focus, we've only seen 1 deal made in more than a year, and that happened recently with some internet provider in Tunisia. Sure, great, but only a momentary brief flicker of the candle light.

- Team continues to argue against marketing, even updating simple information, such as removing "ICO Has Ended From website, and even here on BTT." How long does this task take Ampirebus? Not even 3 minutes, especially here on Bitcointalk. Really fucking shameful man. Obviously your and their "priorities are elsewhere," and time is so "limited," 3 minutes of time definitely can't be diverted. There's only 1 thing that matters in crypto, and that's how many community members you have, and how adopted your blockchain, coin or shitcoin is.  The only thing that's keeping this project alive, community members. Value is only derived by other people.

- Team defends scams and doesn't want to acknowledge scams that occurred on their chain, in case of SmartGold and Quick (?). Scams occurred on UTN blockchain as smart contracts. both have no activity for over half a year now, and yes they will censor you for bringing this up. One Russian who i never saw speak in the telegram channel, was adamant about censoring me immediately.

- Team is desperate to bring us new information, by giving us not updates about their project, but updates about the most useless pieces of information. Case-in-point, their latest tweet. https://twitter.com/Universa_News

- Team doesn't want to market their project anywhere, team has no focus or priority to bring on other teams to develop smart contracts. They expect people to stumble apon their project, and create for it. That process only works, if your blockchain is visible in the first place, leading me back to volume of the coin. The only 2 projects that made contracts, where the 2 scamcoins mentioned above; created in the more liquid (early 2018) crypto market.

- Universa the interest from community members, twitter followers have declined by 300, telegram users by 1k (over the past 5 months).



The Positives:

- AB (the CEO), is trying to make something of the project, but has nothing to show for all his hard work
- Core developer team understands Universa, and is highly capable
- Project has potential of being a very successful blockchain
- Team understands crypto to an extent, attempting to shy away from hype-trains (which also negatively impacts their prospects)
- Admin team is active, the last tree branch for everyone who's involved. If they stopped talking, then this project would be dead.





Lets go in deeper, the admins.

- Team of admins is good, they consistently answer the same question about UTNP-UTN Swap, because the core team's inability to update all other information elsewhere. Thus, viewing their Telegram, 90% of all interactions are about the swap. Very talented.
- Team of responders are always active, but these are the lowest level jobs, re-regurgitating information that has been available for months now. I don't necessarily blame them, because the majority of crypto users are brain-dead. But also, there's a severe lack of information anywhere outside of their Telegram group.




Again, if anyone is curious, just look at Universa's volume, the ultimate meter for any crypto's performance. There's a lot of other miscellaneous pieces of information, a lot of more detail that can go into these points, but i really not going to spend time pointing information that the team takes and throws in the trash can, or is reluctant to even understand or acknowledge.




The question about marketing has been asked a qwazillon of times. One thing needs to be understood - Universa is a blockchain platform for business. That's why the team doesn't focus on marketing amongst ordinary users (me, you, many others), but what they actually focus on is b2b and b2g contracts. The marketing guys of Universa and AB himself are trying and succeeding in this though...
5  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: [ANN] UNIVERSA | Блокчейн для бизнеса on: December 21, 2018, 07:14:58 AM
Когда уже наконец то будет кошелек и нативные монеты? Пока что я вижу только бета версию веб-кошелька и токены ERC. Хотя многие проекты которые запускали позднее Универсы ICO уже запустили свой блокчейн и поменяли токены на монеты.  Huh

Здравствуйте. Кошелек встроен в наши вебклиенты на access.universa.io и beta.universa.io, а нативные токены (UTN) уже более полугода как доступны. У нас уже давно есть функционирующий блокчейн и сравнительно недавно мы добавили функцию обмена токенов UTN-UTNP. Монет у нас нет.

Ккаике это нативные токены? Я спрашивал о монетах UTN а не токенах UTNp. Какой же это майнет и свой блокчейн если монет нет? Вы знаете разницу между монетой и токеном? Эфирный токен создает любой школьник на Эфире. Нативные монеты - это монеты своего блокчейна. Какой вобще смысл с этих токенов?

https://medium.com/swlh/types-of-tokens-the-four-mistakes-beginner-crypto-investors-make-a76b53be5406
вот здесь можешь посмотреть разницу
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