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The rally isn't looking great. I think this is the tip before returning back to decline
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It also seems like Block_Erupter and Lecture are the same. Their prose is similar.
Possible evidence: Lecture has boosted Block_Erupter's trust on this forum.
Theory: He wanted a "clean slate" to scam from and not from a known scammer like Lecture, and so used Block_Erupter. "Lecture" boosted the trust of Block_Erupter. All the credibility furnished with Frozencoin allowed Block Erupter to exploit it for personal gain with the scam that is Shares, whether planned in advance or in the "spur of the moment"
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I recently donated the new website design, and in doing so I happened to log Frozen's IP (and no, he doesn't live in Ohio like he said). I don't know him beyond a few PMs, but I'm still going to give him the benefit of doubt for now. However, if it turns out that he is indeed a scammer, I'm more than willing to let those of you who invested in "Shares" have it. Seeing as how it is a static residential IP in the United States and what he's accused of is felony fraud, I imagine you have a decent chance of recouping some of your losses if you're so inclined to pursue it.
That said, none of this should have any bearing on the future prospects of FrozenCoin. If it turns out he is a fraudster -- a judgement that should at least be reserved for a few more days, then the community will move on and new people will step up to the plate. Trenton, for example, is already doing a fine job from what I've seen.
Can you confirm where the IP is from, at least in a general geographic sense? Also, he could be using a VPN... Western United States. It's a residential IP and has never been associated with a company or website, so on the (very) off chance it is a VPN, then it's operating illegally (as per the terms of that particular ISP). Just to clarify, Block_Erupter's frozencoin forum username is "Frozen" -- the administrator. http://frozencoin.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1The frozencoin forum username "FrozenLiquid" is just a supporter of the community. |
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Also, how is block_erupter/lecture doing giveaways if there was no premine?
The giveaways came to great parts from the FZ community itself: from the early FZ miners and investors. And Block_Erupter had to do te same like everybody: mine and buy. I know you have some trouble with Shares and I hope the matter gets resolved for good. But this is the Frozen-Thread. There's no reason to bash this community coin - this is off-topic here and unfair to the Frozen community. @all, my nick on the Frozen-Forums is "Trenton" and I've been fixing the sources and building the newer wallet versions v1.1.0.x. The latest release v1.1.0.7 is pretty good, it might be even better than the upstream QRK at the moment. I will continue to work on Frozen if need arises. can you build a php or c++ fork of frozen to add to Openex.pw, a new alt exchange? |
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If we build that fork for Frozen will you add it?
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Due to recent events (see "Shares" thread), it appears our Frozen developer, "Frozen" aka "Block_Erupter" has scammed the bitcointalk community by furnishing credibility from a fantastic coin (the non-premined, very fair coin named "Frozencoin") and exploiting this credibility to obtain funds with a "front" coin named "Shares."
Community, please vote for "trenton" on frozencoin.org/forum, (user "frambelicious" on bitcointalk) the guy who has from the beginning been developing wallets and doing updates solely out of interest for the frozen community and for free, to become the main, sole developer for Frozen.
For all of you non-Frozen community lurkers, let it be known that no developer can sabatoge this coin because it truly is the people's. The only way to really sabatoge it would require a premine, which this coin had absolutely none of. The network is still very strong with a healthy hashrate.
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Frozencoin (fz) could use a new exchange. Coinedup doesn't have any volume.
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WARNING: Don't send your BTC AND LTC to someone for a possible scam. This SCAM hass been seen in other subforums. Be CAUTIOUS
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If this is true, then I'm extremely upset. I hope trenton, who seems to be an honest and hardworking dev, can take over Block_Erupter's DEV position since trenton has been helping everyone and making wallets and updates for free for everyone.
This is the people's coin, not the OP. If it was premined, this coin would be a scam. But it wasn't. The people have control over it, that is, the majority have control, not a centralised developer. Remember that.
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THIS IS BULLSHIT! I'm DONE with alternative currencies. Just when I think I thought I've found a 'good one' it IS THE WORST ONE.
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Block_Erupter, it appears you've ruined this coin and its honest community. Why did you have to scam those people with Shares?
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If this is a scam I am ashamed to have ever tried to help this Frozencoin developer. The community has been so honest and sincere so far and I've had no problems, but this can easily all just be a front for Block_Erupter to scam the community and use his honesty in Frozencoin development to scam for Shares. I feel terrible to be associated with the Frozen community if this is the case. We do not deserve this blindsidedness. We've all been nothing but helpful, honest, and trying to make this coin a success on multiple platforms. All these miners donating hashpower and electricity and traders on coinedup.... all for what? Just WOW
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Sockpuppets are skewing results for voting. Top 5 or 3 should be taken rather than just one. FZ is my vote. Much more authentic votes from real people
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Add comment. Same username MajkiSer
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Thanks
Read the post above yours. I just closed it buddy  When I reopen it I'll get you some FZ (if I do reopen it) |
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Sorry to say neither me nor other guy (at least one, plz see other thread) received nothing from at least two previous announced "giveaways". Until the situation is cleared will prefer to abstain from any voting. Do not think that "empty" or selective giveaways can help the reputation of the coin.
I just paid everyone not long ago! You've received it if you participated in my G|I|V|E|A|W|A|Y thread. Have some patience, there's a lot of addresses to give out and things to do in RL. |
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ALL PARTICIPANTS HAVE BEEN GIVEN THEIR FREE FROZEN!
Most have received 5 or 6 FZ, but those exceptional posts received 2x as much.
Thank you all! I am closing this thread until I re-open it.
Check your addresses. One or two of you have not received any for not following the guidelines (you're not supposed to simply post your fz address in this particular giveaway  ). I will re-open it soon. On a closing note, this giveaway was done entirely from the community and not from Block_Erupter. If you haven't received your FZ in some other giveaway in another thread, I apologize but I have no relation to him or that giveaway. This is a community-based giveaway and was a success, done entirely out of a few people's pockets. I appreciate everyone's work! With love, Frozen Community |
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 ------------------------------------------------------------- This is a very simple, rewarding giveaway. Why the celebration? Two reason: 1, the recent addition to Coinedup.com! Trade BTC for Frozen https://coinedup.com/OrderBook?market=FZ&base=BTC . 2, the reward halving! Frozen blocks will now generate a 25 FZ reward instead of 50. Congratulations, FZ community! Without further ado I should like to tell you the criteria for the giveaway. Complete the following steps to secure your free FZ! 1. Click https://cryptsy.freshdesk.com/support/discussions/topics/45030 and create an account 2. Post your newly created username in this thread FIRST with your comment on why Frozen should be added to Cryptsy. Please make a genuine reason, put some thought into it and be sincere. Frozen community has been very genuine thus far and we would not like to see fake, thoughtless comments And of course add your Frozen address in this thread under your comment and username 3. Last step! This time you should ACTUALLY "submit" your comment on cryptsy.freshdesk. The reason why you should post your comment/username IN THIS THREAD first is to not have people claiming fake names and taking other people's free Frozen! Please upvote the cryptsy thread after commenting Make sure to join us at frozencoin.org/forum for discussions and hangouts. There's also a shoutbox for you trolls  With love, Frozen Community  |
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The concept of possession and the attribution of value onto mediums has existed well before money was invented. You honestly think the world is rainbows and unicorns before money was created?
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We're so close to the first reward halving! All we need is Cryptsy to add us, and the halving will make this coin double in value. All the strong hands are holding strong, and this coin's launch was so fair that no one lost. Coinedup is nice, but it's VERY weak volume. We need to count on getting on Cryptsy, BTER, btc38, etc. Almost 2 GH/s on the coinmine.pl pool. Frozen is looking very chilly |
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