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3 days left for the 1:1 rate swap! Hurry!
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Was Telegram ICO started? Network talk about it super strong right now and they link to this page: www.telegramton.infoAny help will be great... Scam. |
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your output is going to be astronomical..., so what I'm saying is, unless you can think of some ways to narrow this down, I don't think it's worth the effort.
Yeah, I started doing more of the math last night and it just seems unreasonable to decipher or decode any information in this way. I wanted to lean towards finding some Morse code after looking at the ribbons (.--./.-. stood out as WR). But that could have easily been coincidental. I think I am grasping at straws as a result over-thinking. I read through a description of a previous puzzle and it pushed me in the direction of looking for pure data or a bitstream somewhere. Now I am leaning towards the "finding pictures in clouds" approach. I am very entertained by this puzzle, but I am pretty sure I am spinning my wheels. I would really love to brainstorm in real-time if anyone has a discord or anything set up. You have an IRC channel up in this page. |
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freenode ##1flamen6
Perhaps it's better to keep the channel private or at least not posting the name here. It could become full of trolls. |
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Beyond Our Fiery [...]
It's clearly related, you can see the puzzle as a thumbnail https://imgur.com/a/pTgqF, but I don't know if it's only an inspiring text or a path to follow... |
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Good luck for you with those trolling flames.
The first big step is a minecraft server.
Can you please keep any stupid conjectures you have a minimum? Thanks. Don't waste yout time https://imgur.com/a/E6TZg... and help us  |
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I have been working on another (feeble) attempt at interpreting this image. As much as I would like to hold my cards close to my chest and come out as the one who solved it, I hate unknowingly retracing steps even more.
I have been looking at applying a code 128 barcode to the flames in case a mini-key is what we are looking for. I have been looking at the thickness and re-arranging the top/bottom/left/right segments in an order that might create a barcode that might actually be readable.
I have also considered incorporating the color combinations to determine which flames should/shouldn't be included. Or, perhaps the short flames are one barcode (or section) and the tall flames are another. I am doing my barcode creation manually via image editors, but I am wondering if there is a programmatic way to do this.
I am still hoping that many of us are holding their cards and working in the shadows, perhaps in a private IRC channel or something like that. Did you check https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=766000.320 and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=766000.560? Could be useful to create a barcode, especially @alphabetacanary's work. |
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@TR3N47Y has changed it's twitter background and image. The new avatar comes from: http://the--kyza.deviantart.com/art/Revival-276924026 titled Revival The new background comes from: http://dani-owergoor.deviantart.com/art/Chess-305880710 titled Chess The cite from the login also says grid, so I started thinking about where can we use a chess board, and I think it has to do with the first message and the X. Reviewing the original messaga as a chess board 8x8 we get: -=[O]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[x]=-=[x]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[x]=
-=[ ]=-=[x]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[x]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=
-=[x]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=
-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[x]=-=[ ]=
-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[x]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=
-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[x]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]E-=[M]=-=[ ]=
-=[x]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[x]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[x]=
-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[x]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=-=[ ]=
-=[ ]=-E[x]=-=[ ]=-=[-]=-=[3]=-=[4]=-=[7]=-=[ ?
O = Origin Block
M = Message
E = Error in separators
? = Missing close square bracket
Anybody can help me connect the original message with a 7x9 board? I was working on rewriting the message into 7x9 and 9x7 grids, but the Xs don't align with any particularly meaningful objects on board (like leaves and/or chess pieces). I thought about aligning the M (text message) with the key or ribbons, but the key is in between the tiles and the ribbons are on the rightmost column and I cannot align it either. EDIT: It is an old idea, but at that time the "hearts on fire" painting had not been published yet so puzzle solvers who connected the original message with a chessboard idea played with a 8x8 chessboard. To no avail, at that time. I am wondering if there is any new value in the idea after we have received new puzzle pieces. I barely remember that @coin_artist said that the picture is enough to resolve the puzzle, there is no need for using other pieces of information from other puzzles or previous steps... I am sure that the exact comment is in one of the pages of this thread. Nevertheless, I don't discard your idea, I think that the "347" thing, in the puzzles and the user names of the "people involved" belongs to other lines of work. Did you check this right? http://www.eglebbk.dds.nl/program/cvwiki//index.php?title=Yari_Shogi Is one of the old clues, already posted a year ago I think... Sorry not being really helpful... |
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There are plenty of crypto-coding ideas to test here... https://gitlab.com/users/robmyers/projectsSome of them could be used as inspiration on the current puzzle. (Or be directly applied to it). Good coding skills needed  EDIT: I just saw that he is a gitlab member since April 15, 2015, and the puzzle was published on April 3, so maybe there isn't so much useful code that I previously thought. Nice work! This code was also posted on gitorious December 2014, predating the puzzle... anyway, thanks to you and 680cfbb909 for following up on an old lead. As I learn more about the coding side of things, I would want any null result I got to be double checked by someone with more experience anyway. Great! I have visually checked the repos, and I'm interested in two of them: https://gitlab.com/robmyers/paintr-node and https://gitlab.com/robmyers/surgical_strike, but I didn't run them yet. By the way, I can't open your gitorious link, I think you put "680cfbb909" as the url, can you edit it please? Thanks! |
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There are plenty of crypto-coding ideas to test here... https://gitlab.com/users/robmyers/projectsSome of them could be used as inspiration on the current puzzle. (Or be directly applied to it). Good coding skills needed EDIT: I just saw that he is a gitlab member since April 15, 2015, and the puzzle was published on April 3, so maybe there isn't so much useful code that I previously thought. |
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Thanks again, I didn't get nothing useful, but it was worth trying, another searched path. If someone else wants to check it, now it's clear with your explanations.
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https://imgur.com/a/uYdmJThis is what you get if you use the turtle.js code to draw the transaction hashes. appendHash("74e037e5b7cea4512625a4af5a1223dbaf5ae3fb629c47263086091c0ba5328b");
appendHash("1469167e08a116438943319880f415bb8afe279df68aeaaa32186cf4b7d297da");
appendHash("ed07c5a6c63313f9b6828d3cb8f1d2ead3a4e8eb92ddbf12297c912e9ade3e60");
appendHash("4879431128d7dc5a8e0e6e7d739bb2246f8537db1cd6f5971fdff6c4d4d301c2");
appendHash("9c6d9a78bb8a7ee9f78af0944edce9abbe67f835355ba872da618abb6b841f47");
appendHash("1f49d498f476cf87a62dce43ebf655051b193971a2b8e8e6df71e2aaa329b42f");
appendHash("458727dbd63f48c833c3d29ea2013281f8bbb0ca8b17a00600972350c273d98e");
Are the hashes I used in the picture. Worth a try, but I don't think this will lead to anything. At least not with the transaction hashes. Thanks @680cfbb909, maybe the life-game js? or the bitmaps? Perhaps the seven bitmaps could be arranged (4 of them) to create a QR code... |
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Off flame ramblings follow: It's time well spent going back through this thread a couple times (long though it may be) and seeing for example that: 1) The Phoenix and the Turtle poem was referenced in post #338 on April 5th, 2015 Based on what I have read regarding previous challenges, ytcoin_artist doesn't give hints but does let people know if they are on the right track and confirmed found clues to previous ARG challenges. The fact that she tweeted a section of the poem might be to say "you found this clue but didn't think it was the next step, look again" I couldn't find her giving any hints or clues aside from this one... 2) The skinny inner flame data channel was detailed in post #404 possibly before that as well, then re-discovered recently by smracer. This game has gone on so long that people have forgotten what was tried, abandoned, rediscovered etc. BitcoinArbiter in post #400 posted a link to some of Rob Myers work https://robmyers.org/blockchain-aesthetics/It would seem that coin_artist and Rob Myers are tight collaborators His blockchain-aesthetics code was done around the time this painting was created some of the code has instructions to "draw" blockchain transactions using "turtle graphics" I am not a programmer, perhaps someone with better skills can use the code here: https://github.com/robmyers/blockchain-aesthetics/and make the turtle graphics code examine and draw the transactions done on the 1FLAME address like this one? Just delving back into the crazy... This could be a good one, there is no need of programming skills for running the code, download the zip from github and launch "transactions-<something>.html" you will see the results on your browser. The javaScript functions takes data from a live web-socket in JSON format, from here 'wss://ws.blockchain.info/inv', later parses data and takes the "hash", in our case should be "9c6d9a78bb8a7ee9f78af0944edce9abbe67f835355ba872da618abb6b841f47" as you said. I could try to modify the code later, for using only that hash, but my coding habilities are limited on Js, perhaps someone with better skills could lend us a hand. |
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I think if the flames holds the private key itself, will be impossible to decode it without the rest of the picture, because if it could be decoded only with operations over the flames, paiting the chess board and the other pieces will be a waste of time for the creator. I think that the chess board is too full of symbols to be only a distraction...
I'm saying this because over the whole thread the flames kept 80% of the attention, and I'm not talking about the 10000% zoom things, the jpeg glitches or the rabbit, simply the pieces and their meaning.
well for one thing the leaves seem to have been (at least partially) incorporated to the big picture. They seem to give the order on feature streams and they seem to tell which feature values should be decoded as 1 and 0. The same for the key ribbons, there are ideas around on how to use them. So it is not that everybody just idles with flames Agree with you, just saying because I'm seeing a lot of effort on flames, like the lines of code from @kn0w0n3. But for example, nobody talks about why that kind of creeper plant is holding the queen while it melts... Maybe applying maths, logic and counting is not the way for this one. Take this only as thoughts, I really admire all the work being done here. (And in previous puzzles that I followed too). |
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I think if the flames holds the private key itself, will be impossible to decode it without the rest of the picture, because if it could be decoded only with operations over the flames, paiting the chess board and the other pieces will be a waste of time for the creator. I think that the chess board is too full of symbols to be only a distraction...
I'm saying this because over the whole thread the flames kept 80% of the attention, and I'm not talking about the 10000% zoom things, the jpeg glitches or the rabbit, simply the pieces and their meaning.
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Just as an opinion, what I've learned from Cicada Liber Primus solving is that you need to catalog EVERYTHING you do. It gets really crazy with what people are trying versus what hasn't been tried yet.
Doing something like unit tests or just uploading the code is really useful.
I think that when someone hits a clear path, every followed step will be cataloged, at least for himself. At this point, and I am following the thread from almost the start (and the other chats that appeared), only thoughts and theories are being tested. This puzzle is using a different logic than previous ones. |
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