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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ZEL] Zelcash : INNOVATIVE-INTELLIGENT-INSPIRING Cryptocurrency - zkSNARKs on: February 03, 2018, 09:44:08 PM

DON'T TRUST SOMEONE WHO LIES---3. We did not ban you from Discord (you stated that you hoped our project was successful and for real and we thanked you and you left the Discord
                                        community after I stated that hopefully you'd come back and realize all of the hard work that we put into the project)--- Please do not lie. We have screenshots.

4. We mentioned the use of both the Equihash/Ethash as a cross-chain approach and how the masternodes (which Zencash doesn't have) would be used as the POS for the Ethash chain.

5. Additionally, we mentioned that in regards to Zencash and other cryptocurrencies, we will be fundraising and donating back to the community of which we will have a vote on as a community (this donations page will be live any day now).


If anyone would like screenshots and proof of our conversation, please PM me and I will be happy to oblige.

Thank you and have a great day,


Mount Weather






Mount Weather, I sent message with wishing good luck if you doing a real project, but I didn`t even see this message, because I was kicked from your discord channel. If you didn`t kick me, then some one else kicked me.

So you have 2 devs, one of them a founder stated at your site as a businessman/trader/miner and a manager. So he have time for everything. Which mean he have no time for real developing. In addition he spending a lot of time in discord. Just to prove my point he is not developing atm and probably in the future. 

To everything else it`s just a shit talking. Ppls have to believe you, while I showed the facts and shady moves in this project. Honestly, every smart person should stay away from premined projects these days. Don`t want to spend more time for this scam.


Nope, No one kicked you. I have a screenshot that shows you left. No kicking or banning. Enjoy the FUD and lies. Good luck!
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ZEL] Zelcash : INNOVATIVE-INTELLIGENT-INSPIRING Cryptocurrency - zkSNARKs on: February 03, 2018, 09:59:34 AM
This post just to worn you about a scam project detected. But do your own research if you don`t want to loose your money or mining time.

Just to be clear I`m from a zencash community. I decide to check what is zelcash and why it looks like a copypast from zencach(ffs they only changed 1 sign in the name).

So I started from zel site.  Nothing better with a site - looks like a copy of https://zensystem.io/ A pretty same design, same fonts and even their logo looks a same(at least for me) - 3 attached cubic elements.

Then I looked at technology. And again a same things - private messages, masternodes and finally something original in whole project - crosschain. No real names in team, only nicknames. Good way to hide when you plagiarism something. And of course great for exit scam.

Entered to their discord. Started with simple question "Why it`s called zelcash and is there any hidden message behind it". Got funny kiddish answers from a founder and co-founder "because we like it" and "it easy to pronounce". Zero imagination.

Then asked what the difference with zencash. Got answer about a crosschain and this
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Zencash takes a % of the mining fee, 2% more dev fund. They are not utilizing a cross-chain approach, and last but not least, they do not incorporate masternodes (meaning that they will have more of the coin in circulation, which means that each coin is worth less). Having masternodes ties up coins and takes them out of circulation for the time-being while helping to verify transactions and keep the network secure.

 This info is not a true(same as info about zcash funding they`re spreading). Because ZEN doesn't actually have 8.5% in treasury. We forked off ZCL so first million coins and some more weren't taxed at all. Furthermore in % to total supply we have even way less; whereas premined coins get % of total supply. 1 761 000 * 0.085 = 149 685 / 21 000 000 = 0.7% of total supply

Then I saw info about zel have premine 6.2%. It`s not like zcash or zencash getting slow funding over time making devs to work hard all the time to push project forward. In zel case they will be able to cashout pretty fast when they`ll get a decent price after getting some exchanges.

So after all this info I called them a scam project and was kicked/banned from the discord. And as was mentioned at this thread before a founder/co-founder clearing/changing their messages all the time. Pretty shady moves.

And they have only one developer. So he must be better then Vitalik is to do all this stuff they imagine in whitepaper. Keep in mind they have nothing ready outside wallets(that was copied from zcash/zencash). Zcash/zencash have a pretty big teams working on projects and it`s moving slowly because developing takes a lot of time and testing things.

To summ this up.

1. A clone looking project to https://zensystem.io/
-changed only 1 sign in a project name
-a same site design
-a close looking logo
-a same ideas

2. Premine 6.2% to not wait long/get rich fast.

3. No real names for founders and dev teams. No penalties/law issue after exit a scam.

4. Only 1 developer.

5. Spreading incorrect info about zcash/zencash funding to look better.

6. Shady moves in discord - deleting/changing messages, kicking/banning ppls.

7. 210M coins supply.

I`m pretty sure there will be other issues. It`s up to you to risk or not. But giving them a hashpower or buying their shitcoins you will keep supporting crypto scams making your and humanity future unclear. Cheers to all a real projects!


To the above poster who's questions I answered on the Discord as to what makes our coin different.

I am a part of the team as community manager and remained polite during our conversation and answered all of your questions although you made allegations of a 'scam' which is rude so I will assume you are new to the cryptocurrency community and looking at your post, English may be your second language.


1. We do not take mining rewards like it clearly states on the Zencash website

2. We answered your question in regards to the multiple developers that we have on our team working on the project (one of our developers is listed as founder, FYI)

DON'T TRUST SOMEONE WHO LIES---3. We did not ban you from Discord (you stated that you hoped our project was successful and for real and we thanked you and you left the Discord
                                        community after I stated that hopefully you'd come back and realize all of the hard work that we put into the project)--- Please do not lie. We have screenshots.

4. We mentioned the use of both the Equihash/Ethash as a cross-chain approach and how the masternodes (which Zencash doesn't have) would be used as the POS for the Ethash chain.

5. Additionally, we mentioned that in regards to Zencash and other cryptocurrencies, we will be fundraising and donating back to the community of which we will have a vote on as a community (this donations page will be live any day now).


If anyone would like screenshots and proof of our conversation, please PM me and I will be happy to oblige.

Thank you and have a great day,


Mount Weather



3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔴HADRON🔴⠀WEB⠀BROWSER⠀AI⠀MINING🔴 Mining⠀started,⠀apply⠀now,⠀AIRDRP⠀bount🔴 on: January 22, 2018, 03:11:36 AM
Seems like a really great project! Would love to get involved.

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