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February 02, 2018, 07:56:31 PM
Last edit: February 02, 2018, 08:13:52 PM by ragnartriangle
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RAGNAR POOL
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Current hashrate is arround 15KSol/s

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Current block earnings
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CPU/GPU mining on port 2032

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February 02, 2018, 08:29:17 PM
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Zcash does have a 20% dev fee for the first 4 years of mining. When the block reward is halved then there will be no dev fee. The devs will be rewarded 2.1 million zcash. Which is 10% of the total supply that there will ever be.

https://z.cash/blog/funding.html

Yes, which means that information in OP is fake and misleading.
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February 02, 2018, 08:36:18 PM
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Zcash does have a 20% dev fee for the first 4 years of mining. When the block reward is halved then there will be no dev fee. The devs will be rewarded 2.1 million zcash. Which is 10% of the total supply that there will ever be.

https://z.cash/blog/funding.html

Yes, which means that information in OP is fake and misleading.

You can't call it "fake". It's just misleading. I guess it depends on how you look at it. It is accurate when compared to the other coins. The info-graphic refers to percentage of block rewards, not total disbursement amount. If all a person cares about is how much ZCash is taking right NOW, then it's 100% true. In the long run, it it less. But to criticize something that pedantic is unnecessary on your part, because there is no false information given. All advertising campaigns intentionally make the content appear to better the topic in question. That's just how it works. No shame there.
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February 02, 2018, 09:07:45 PM
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This coin looks like a ZEN and ETH hybrid to me. Why not? Tongue
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February 03, 2018, 06:22:05 AM
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This coin looks like a ZEN and ETH hybrid to me. Why not? Tongue
Looks awesome to me too ... however the pos/mn part will be tricky and hope devs will manage it well
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February 03, 2018, 08:57:15 AM
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This post just to worn you about a scam project detected. But do your own research if you don`t want to loose your money or mining time.

Just to be clear I`m from a zencash community. I decide to check what is zelcash and why it looks like a copypast from zencach(ffs they only changed 1 sign in the name).

So I started from zel site.  Nothing better with a site - looks like a copy of https://zensystem.io/ A pretty same design, same fonts and even their logo looks a same(at least for me) - 3 attached cubic elements.

Then I looked at technology. And again a same things - private messages, masternodes and finally something original in whole project - crosschain. No real names in team, only nicknames. Good way to hide when you plagiarism something. And of course great for exit scam.

Entered to their discord. Started with simple question "Why it`s called zelcash and is there any hidden message behind it". Got funny kiddish answers from a founder and co-founder "because we like it" and "it easy to pronounce". Zero imagination.

Then asked what the difference with zencash. Got answer about a crosschain and this
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Zencash takes a % of the mining fee, 2% more dev fund. They are not utilizing a cross-chain approach, and last but not least, they do not incorporate masternodes (meaning that they will have more of the coin in circulation, which means that each coin is worth less). Having masternodes ties up coins and takes them out of circulation for the time-being while helping to verify transactions and keep the network secure.

 This info is not a true(same as info about zcash funding they`re spreading). Because ZEN doesn't actually have 8.5% in treasury. We forked off ZCL so first million coins and some more weren't taxed at all. Furthermore in % to total supply we have even way less; whereas premined coins get % of total supply. 1 761 000 * 0.085 = 149 685 / 21 000 000 = 0.7% of total supply

Then I saw info about zel have premine 6.2%. It`s not like zcash or zencash getting slow funding over time making devs to work hard all the time to push project forward. In zel case they will be able to cashout pretty fast when they`ll get a decent price after getting some exchanges.

So after all this info I called them a scam project and was kicked/banned from the discord. And as was mentioned at this thread before a founder/co-founder clearing/changing their messages all the time. Pretty shady moves.

And they have only one developer. So he must be better then Vitalik is to do all this stuff they imagine in whitepaper. Keep in mind they have nothing ready outside wallets(that was copied from zcash/zencash). Zcash/zencash have a pretty big teams working on projects and it`s moving slowly because developing takes a lot of time and testing things.

To summ this up.

1. A clone looking project to https://zensystem.io/
-changed only 1 sign in a project name
-a same site design
-a close looking logo
-a same ideas

2. Premine 6.2% to not wait long/get rich fast.

3. No real names for founders and dev teams. No penalties/law issue after exit a scam.

4. Only 1 developer.

5. Spreading incorrect info about zcash/zencash funding to look better.

6. Shady moves in discord - deleting/changing messages, kicking/banning ppls.

7. 210M coins supply.

I`m pretty sure there will be other issues. It`s up to you to risk or not. But giving them a hashpower or buying their shitcoins you will keep supporting crypto scams making your and humanity future unclear. Cheers to all a real projects!
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February 03, 2018, 09:59:34 AM
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This post just to worn you about a scam project detected. But do your own research if you don`t want to loose your money or mining time.

Just to be clear I`m from a zencash community. I decide to check what is zelcash and why it looks like a copypast from zencach(ffs they only changed 1 sign in the name).

So I started from zel site.  Nothing better with a site - looks like a copy of https://zensystem.io/ A pretty same design, same fonts and even their logo looks a same(at least for me) - 3 attached cubic elements.

Then I looked at technology. And again a same things - private messages, masternodes and finally something original in whole project - crosschain. No real names in team, only nicknames. Good way to hide when you plagiarism something. And of course great for exit scam.

Entered to their discord. Started with simple question "Why it`s called zelcash and is there any hidden message behind it". Got funny kiddish answers from a founder and co-founder "because we like it" and "it easy to pronounce". Zero imagination.

Then asked what the difference with zencash. Got answer about a crosschain and this
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Zencash takes a % of the mining fee, 2% more dev fund. They are not utilizing a cross-chain approach, and last but not least, they do not incorporate masternodes (meaning that they will have more of the coin in circulation, which means that each coin is worth less). Having masternodes ties up coins and takes them out of circulation for the time-being while helping to verify transactions and keep the network secure.

 This info is not a true(same as info about zcash funding they`re spreading). Because ZEN doesn't actually have 8.5% in treasury. We forked off ZCL so first million coins and some more weren't taxed at all. Furthermore in % to total supply we have even way less; whereas premined coins get % of total supply. 1 761 000 * 0.085 = 149 685 / 21 000 000 = 0.7% of total supply

Then I saw info about zel have premine 6.2%. It`s not like zcash or zencash getting slow funding over time making devs to work hard all the time to push project forward. In zel case they will be able to cashout pretty fast when they`ll get a decent price after getting some exchanges.

So after all this info I called them a scam project and was kicked/banned from the discord. And as was mentioned at this thread before a founder/co-founder clearing/changing their messages all the time. Pretty shady moves.

And they have only one developer. So he must be better then Vitalik is to do all this stuff they imagine in whitepaper. Keep in mind they have nothing ready outside wallets(that was copied from zcash/zencash). Zcash/zencash have a pretty big teams working on projects and it`s moving slowly because developing takes a lot of time and testing things.

To summ this up.

1. A clone looking project to https://zensystem.io/
-changed only 1 sign in a project name
-a same site design
-a close looking logo
-a same ideas

2. Premine 6.2% to not wait long/get rich fast.

3. No real names for founders and dev teams. No penalties/law issue after exit a scam.

4. Only 1 developer.

5. Spreading incorrect info about zcash/zencash funding to look better.

6. Shady moves in discord - deleting/changing messages, kicking/banning ppls.

7. 210M coins supply.

I`m pretty sure there will be other issues. It`s up to you to risk or not. But giving them a hashpower or buying their shitcoins you will keep supporting crypto scams making your and humanity future unclear. Cheers to all a real projects!


To the above poster who's questions I answered on the Discord as to what makes our coin different.

I am a part of the team as community manager and remained polite during our conversation and answered all of your questions although you made allegations of a 'scam' which is rude so I will assume you are new to the cryptocurrency community and looking at your post, English may be your second language.


1. We do not take mining rewards like it clearly states on the Zencash website

2. We answered your question in regards to the multiple developers that we have on our team working on the project (one of our developers is listed as founder, FYI)

DON'T TRUST SOMEONE WHO LIES---3. We did not ban you from Discord (you stated that you hoped our project was successful and for real and we thanked you and you left the Discord
                                        community after I stated that hopefully you'd come back and realize all of the hard work that we put into the project)--- Please do not lie. We have screenshots.

4. We mentioned the use of both the Equihash/Ethash as a cross-chain approach and how the masternodes (which Zencash doesn't have) would be used as the POS for the Ethash chain.

5. Additionally, we mentioned that in regards to Zencash and other cryptocurrencies, we will be fundraising and donating back to the community of which we will have a vote on as a community (this donations page will be live any day now).


If anyone would like screenshots and proof of our conversation, please PM me and I will be happy to oblige.

Thank you and have a great day,


Mount Weather



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February 03, 2018, 10:15:36 AM
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Hello,
could be that the explorer available at the address http://explorer.zel.cash/ is not synced with the net in real time?
I see a difference between the balance available in the wallet and the balance declared scanning the same address...
Thanks
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February 03, 2018, 10:35:48 AM
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DON'T TRUST SOMEONE WHO LIES---3. We did not ban you from Discord (you stated that you hoped our project was successful and for real and we thanked you and you left the Discord
                                        community after I stated that hopefully you'd come back and realize all of the hard work that we put into the project)--- Please do not lie. We have screenshots.

4. We mentioned the use of both the Equihash/Ethash as a cross-chain approach and how the masternodes (which Zencash doesn't have) would be used as the POS for the Ethash chain.

5. Additionally, we mentioned that in regards to Zencash and other cryptocurrencies, we will be fundraising and donating back to the community of which we will have a vote on as a community (this donations page will be live any day now).


If anyone would like screenshots and proof of our conversation, please PM me and I will be happy to oblige.

Thank you and have a great day,


Mount Weather






Mount Weather, I sent message with wishing good luck if you doing a real project, but I didn`t even see this message, because I was kicked from your discord channel. If you didn`t kick me, then some one else kicked me.

So you have 2 devs, one of them a founder stated at your site as a businessman/trader/miner and a manager. So he have time for everything. Which mean he have no time for real developing. In addition he spending a lot of time in discord. Just to prove my point he is not developing atm and probably in the future. 

To everything else it`s just a shit talking. Ppls have to believe you, while I showed the facts and shady moves in this project. Honestly, every smart person should stay away from premined projects these days. Don`t want to spend more time for this scam.
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February 03, 2018, 11:46:06 AM
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This post just to worn you about a scam project detected. But do your own research if you don`t want to loose your money or mining time.

Just to be clear I`m from a zencash community. I decide to check what is zelcash and why it looks like a copypast from zencach(ffs they only changed 1 sign in the name).
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Implying ZEN has never been a clone of ZEC and Hush, and a fork of ZCL, with just nodes reward system addition.
ZEN cloned ZEC wallet, that was released early 2017.
Only one letter was changed in the ticker also.
I don't see any dApps compatibility with ZEN, neither a cross-chain system.
You write the exact same posts I have seen from ZEC supporters when ZEN was launched  Grin

Every new coin is a potential scam, future and development progress will tell what ZEL is...

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February 03, 2018, 11:48:39 AM
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https://image.ibb.co/ehJhZR/madmax.png

http://madmaxpool.hopto.org

Host: minezelcash.hopto.org:3032

Port: 3032 (diff 0.05)  ;  3033  (diff 1.0)   ;  3035  (diff 5.0)
Username:Your_Zelcash_Wallet_Address
Password: X

500 Blocks Found
Minimum Payout: 0.01 Zel

Our Server is Located in New York
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February 03, 2018, 11:50:52 AM
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Marketing a pool in in.
DISCLAIMER : I don't own the pool not do I get some monetary benefit.

It's a small pool for now with a great community. The owner as well as members are really helpful and most of all there are MEMES


We are very happy to announce that our Zelcash pool is up and running.
Having a pool is all well and good, but we need miners.

So we are introducing our Zelcash pool with 0% fees. Not bad eh? So how does an extra 5% added to your earnings sound? We thought so; Just to help kick things off we are paying out a 5% bonus payout on top off your mining earnings!

Yep.. we are going to pay you to join our pools, take part in our community, and try us out.

How it works:

- Join our pool and start mining before 12:01am Feb 6th UTC
- Mine 100 blocks on our pool
- After the 100th block is mined we will process a bonus payout and pay you 5% of all your earnings!

All our Pools feature:

- Enterprise grade hardware in AWS and/or Microsoft Azure
- Active miner community and admins on our Discord server
- PPLNS payment processing
- Anonymous mining with no accounts or passwords
- Payments are made after every block, with a 0.01 minimum payout, and no payment fees.

We hope to see you on our pools!

ZelCash Pool:
http://zel.cloudpools.net/

Home page:
https://cloudpools.net/

Discord:
https://discord.gg/zsavVJ5
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February 03, 2018, 12:32:47 PM
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DON'T TRUST SOMEONE WHO LIES---3. We did not ban you from Discord (you stated that you hoped our project was successful and for real and we thanked you and you left the Discord
                                        community after I stated that hopefully you'd come back and realize all of the hard work that we put into the project)--- Please do not lie. We have screenshots.

4. We mentioned the use of both the Equihash/Ethash as a cross-chain approach and how the masternodes (which Zencash doesn't have) would be used as the POS for the Ethash chain.

5. Additionally, we mentioned that in regards to Zencash and other cryptocurrencies, we will be fundraising and donating back to the community of which we will have a vote on as a community (this donations page will be live any day now).


If anyone would like screenshots and proof of our conversation, please PM me and I will be happy to oblige.

Thank you and have a great day,


Mount Weather






Mount Weather, I sent message with wishing good luck if you doing a real project, but I didn`t even see this message, because I was kicked from your discord channel. If you didn`t kick me, then some one else kicked me.

So you have 2 devs, one of them a founder stated at your site as a businessman/trader/miner and a manager. So he have time for everything. Which mean he have no time for real developing. In addition he spending a lot of time in discord. Just to prove my point he is not developing atm and probably in the future. 

To everything else it`s just a shit talking. Ppls have to believe you, while I showed the facts and shady moves in this project. Honestly, every smart person should stay away from premined projects these days. Don`t want to spend more time for this scam.


To Mount Weather

3. No real names for founders and dev teams.......

Why is this this?? Why are you only using nicknames? It does not inspire confidence....AT ALL
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February 03, 2018, 12:39:29 PM
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We need real profile of this project , otherwise i will not invest single cent on this coin
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February 03, 2018, 02:10:46 PM
Last edit: February 03, 2018, 11:52:13 PM by llbrunoll
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http://madmaxpool.hopto.org

Host: minezelcash.hopto.org:3032

Port: 3032 (diff 0.05)  ;  3033  (diff 1.0)   ;  3035  (diff 5.0)
Username:Your_Zelcash_Wallet_Address
Password: X

462 Blocks Found
Minimum Payout: 0.01 Zel

Our Server is Located in New York
Enjoy Mining!
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Last edit: February 10, 2018, 10:39:26 PM by prologas
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ZelCash Pool


http://syspool.org


stratum+tcp://zel.syspool.org:3033

Fee 0.5% / Payments After Blockchain Confirmation
min payout: 0.1
user: walletaddr.workername
pass: x

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February 03, 2018, 06:00:48 PM
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RAGNAR POOL
http://zel.ragnarpool.ovh/



FEATURES

Worker Alert Mail system
BETA estimated earnings
Last 7 days earnings stats calculation
Current block earnings
Round progress
Rig Monitoring
Payment History
Worker address $ value

0,5% Fee
PPLNT payments
0.1 Minimum payout.

CPU/GPU mining on port 2032

NiceHash on port 2035



Europe
eu-zel.ragnarpool.ovh

North America
na-zel.ragnarpool.ovh

Asia
asia-zel.ragnarpool.ovh


Join our discord ! https://discord.gg/PzsSmuZ
Twitter : https://twitter.com/RagnarPool


Welcome to new miners !





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February 03, 2018, 06:48:11 PM
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Nice copy of Zencash. Really dont buy this. They sell all premined coins after pump.
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February 03, 2018, 07:49:38 PM
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Developers, tell me please. when are you going to enter the markets? Thank you
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February 03, 2018, 09:44:08 PM
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DON'T TRUST SOMEONE WHO LIES---3. We did not ban you from Discord (you stated that you hoped our project was successful and for real and we thanked you and you left the Discord
                                        community after I stated that hopefully you'd come back and realize all of the hard work that we put into the project)--- Please do not lie. We have screenshots.

4. We mentioned the use of both the Equihash/Ethash as a cross-chain approach and how the masternodes (which Zencash doesn't have) would be used as the POS for the Ethash chain.

5. Additionally, we mentioned that in regards to Zencash and other cryptocurrencies, we will be fundraising and donating back to the community of which we will have a vote on as a community (this donations page will be live any day now).


If anyone would like screenshots and proof of our conversation, please PM me and I will be happy to oblige.

Thank you and have a great day,


Mount Weather






Mount Weather, I sent message with wishing good luck if you doing a real project, but I didn`t even see this message, because I was kicked from your discord channel. If you didn`t kick me, then some one else kicked me.

So you have 2 devs, one of them a founder stated at your site as a businessman/trader/miner and a manager. So he have time for everything. Which mean he have no time for real developing. In addition he spending a lot of time in discord. Just to prove my point he is not developing atm and probably in the future. 

To everything else it`s just a shit talking. Ppls have to believe you, while I showed the facts and shady moves in this project. Honestly, every smart person should stay away from premined projects these days. Don`t want to spend more time for this scam.


Nope, No one kicked you. I have a screenshot that shows you left. No kicking or banning. Enjoy the FUD and lies. Good luck!
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