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Bytecoin has been premined 82%.
Boolberry has been hugely instamined probably over 20% with 1 guy making 2,000 Boolberry per day off his private gpu miner as of right now, since Boolberry uses Wild Keccak instead of Cryptonight algorithm. He was making 7,000 boolberry per day for a long time before the difficulty increased, and Boolberry only has 18million total coins. I'd say that 1 guy owns more than 20% of all Boolberries as of right now. Boolberry has both a guy with a private gpu miner that gets 2,000 boolberry per day as of right now, As well as botnets. I wouldnt be suprised if Boolberry has over a 60% instamine.
Monero is the only fairly launched cryptonote coin with a large very active dev team..
Monero wins hands down.
Darkota, you are really troll! It does not make sense to explain you anything, but for others, who are interested in facts: Read this post of Boolberry dev: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577267.msg7479014#msg7479014 - it shows that coin mining is pretty well distributed. Moreover, the guy who owns GPU miner is pretty open about it. This was discussed a lot and if it is the only problem of Boolberry, then I am pretty comfortable to invest into it. He made an innovation and innovations are what moves society (and also cryptocoins and boolberry) forward. Moreover - the difference between CPU and GPU mining is not so high if you count also costs (not only mined coins). And finally - it seems, the miner will be opensourced soon. For me, the more important issue is botnet friendlines of a coin. Somebody provided interesting information about this and Monero. If I would own XMR, I would check it carefully. Botnet owners are real thieves, who do not hesitate to dump any coin for quick profit. To be honest, I do not know, how is it with botnets and BBR, but I will try to investigate it on my own. Bytecoin has been premined 82%.
Boolberry has been hugely instamined probably over 20% with 1 guy making 2,000 Boolberry per day off his private gpu miner as of right now, since Boolberry uses Wild Keccak instead of Cryptonight algorithm. He was making 7,000 boolberry per day for a long time before the difficulty increased, and Boolberry only has 18million total coins. I'd say that 1 guy owns more than 20% of all Boolberries as of right now. Boolberry has both a guy with a private gpu miner that gets 2,000 boolberry per day as of right now, As well as botnets. I wouldnt be suprised if Boolberry has over a 60% instamine.
Monero is the only fairly launched cryptonote coin with a large very active dev team..
Monero wins hands down.
What do you think, Darkota? That if you delete your original post and paste it exactly the same after my answer to it, will it make your arguments better? It is new level of trolling, but I am not going to play your game. You can be proud to be first person on my ignore list. Welcome!
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Bytecoin has been premined 82%.
Boolberry has been hugely instamined probably over 20% with 1 guy making 2,000 Boolberry per day off his private gpu miner as of right now, since Boolberry uses Wild Keccak instead of Cryptonight algorithm. He was making 7,000 boolberry per day for a long time before the difficulty increased, and Boolberry only has 18million total coins. I'd say that 1 guy owns more than 20% of all Boolberries as of right now. Boolberry has both a guy with a private gpu miner that gets 2,000 boolberry per day as of right now, As well as botnets. I wouldnt be suprised if Boolberry has over a 60% instamine.
Monero is the only fairly launched cryptonote coin with a large very active dev team..
Monero wins hands down.
Darkota, you are really troll! It does not make sense to explain you anything, but for others, who are interested in facts: Read this post of Boolberry dev: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577267.msg7479014#msg7479014 - it shows that coin mining is pretty well distributed. Moreover, the guy who owns GPU miner is pretty open about it. This was discussed a lot and if it is the only problem of Boolberry, then I am pretty comfortable to invest into it. He made an innovation and innovations are what moves society (and also cryptocoins and boolberry) forward. Moreover - the difference between CPU and GPU mining is not so high if you count also costs (not only mined coins). And finally - it seems, the miner will be opensourced soon. For me, the more important issue is botnet friendlines of a coin. Somebody provided interesting information about this and Monero. If I would own XMR, I would check it carefully. Botnet owners are real thieves, who do not hesitate to dump any coin for quick profit. To be honest, I do not know, how is it with botnets and BBR, but I will try to investigate it on my own.
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I am holding Boolberry coin and watching Monero. Boolberry is more developed than Monero with same or better services. But it was made few weeks after Monero. Monero has attracted lots of interest from guys, who are on this forum for longer time and they dream about repeating bitcoin history with this coin. But they bring also lots of money and attention.So despite Monero is overpriced, it can go higher. But it can also collapse. There is high pressure to sell from miners and also from people who bought this coin during its hype. And ordinary people do not like it, because it is quite "user unfriendly", so it will not become mainstream soon.
Boolberry is much better, but younger overlooked brother. It needs more big investors and promoters, but the guy who is behind the coin is really clever. I believe it will rise, but you must be careful with any investment.
PS. you will get many recommendations like mine - all of us are bagholders of certain coins. Some of them are dead or dying. So take it with reserve, make your own research, do small trades first.
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A public GPU miner needs to become a thing or this coin will end up looking awfully similar to BCN - innovative but not worth investing in because of the incredible disparity in coins owned.
why don't you guys just fund someone to actually do it? I am not talking bounty, I mean hiring. about that "disparity in coins owned". When we sell our mined coins, anyone can grab them. The disparity comes from the fact that some people are rich, others aren't. And hence they can invest more. This mirrors real life more than anything else. Christian I am just trying to advice you to make you richer ;  Keep some BBR (I am sure you already do). Release the miner - maybe with some announcement, countdown or something similar. Promote the event (miner releasing), promote the coin. And then watch the price rise. Pumps and dumps but going up like monero or other interesting coins. You still can use your miner, mined coins will have higher value and your reserves will have higher value... Otherwise people will loose interest - in fact they are already loosing. And it is a pity.
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Also possible that guys with secret gpu miners are dumping a significant portion of the coins generated each day...
I value your concern, but we're selling over the counter right now and even buying back coins on the exchanges. what do you mean by that? OTC trade is person-to-person and will not affect the coin's valuation on the exchanges. Well, if you're selling large quantities below market value, then presumably the buyer could turn around and dump as well. I wasn't trying to demonize you guys or anything, I'm not a big holder and I don't think it's unethical or anything what you're doing, just trying to explain the price drop to someone that was asking. And actually, upon further reflection and watching the market a bit more, it just looks like cryptonotes and coins in general are down across the board the last few days. Monero (which now has a closed source amd miner and open source nvidia miner) is down by a similar percentage to BBR in the last few days, after they peaked at about the same time. I do not think they are selling under current market price. If he says they rebuy some coins it means, their price is higher. BTW. this coin is extremely undervaluated. I can not buy more because I want to keep some diversity in my current portfolio, but it is difficult to resist. Boolberry is way better than Monero. In fact using Monero is pretty frustrating - sometimes my notebook is blocked for few minutes when I download and save its blockchain. With boolberry everything is smooth. My only concern is centralizatin of this coin. It seems, only few people are accumulating it. This + PR problem with private miner + holding the price low artificially can result into breaking backbone of this coin. Some other coin will copy BBR, will make better distribution and PR and chance is lost... I hope whales of this coin will do something about it soon.
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And one more advice - if you bought it too high, you do not have to wait till price goes back to same level. If you buy same amount now, you will cover your looses on half way to price in which you bought the coin first time.
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I believe, this coin will follow pattern of Cryptcoin and Vericon, which where also chosen by Mintpal. After initial pump, there was deep dump and then 1-2 days later megapump rising value of the coin 2-3 times. And then there was final dump.
So it is good time to buy it now. It should not go much lower, otherwise whales risk they will not be able to rise price as high as they want. And pump will be done soon, before people forget this coin.
It is manipulation, but you can ride the wave, if you enter and leave at the right moment.
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I am comparing coins, not advertising. I provide links, facts, ideas, opinions. This forum should be about this, not about one bullshit sentence like yours saying nothing useful.
All the people here are already awared of BBR, many of us (including me) also hold some BBR from very early, so your advertisement is pointless. The problem with BBR right now is it's being exploited by private GPU miners. Christian might be the not only one who have this optimized miner because he said the coding is not hard. And these guys don't just run it in one server, they're running optimized miners on hundreds of Amazon instances and hence dominate network hash rate. I've been want to buy some more BBR but not this time, not until a GPU miner is released to the public. I agree, bool berry is being demolished by those with gpu's with their private closed sourced miner and it's largely unfair. I also do not like it (the not-open-sorce miner), but it is not such a big issue as presented. If you read discussion inn BBR thread with Christian (supposed owner of such a miner), it seems, the profit is not very high, despite he/they mines lots of coins (there are many costs which needs to be included). Someone else has mentioned that it is more profitable to mine by CPU from work or university where you do not pay for electricity. I believe it. Moreover all CPU mined coins are mined but botnets. This is unfair. Botnet hackers are real thieves which have no other intention than quick profit. All coins need to face centralization in mining and ownership. Even with bitcoin it is big issue. I am sure that also XMR has some superwhales and gigantic miners (botnet owners, CPUfarms,...). Since cryptonote coins are truly anonymous, it is even more difficult to find how they are distributed.
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hi, mkasiak,
I understand that you're advertising BBR, please leave here
Hi shfc, I am comparing coins, not advertising. I provide links, facts, ideas, opinions. This forum should be about this, not about one bullshit sentence like yours saying nothing useful.
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This is bullshit. Hardfork this and fix this before people start abandoning this coin. I'm ready to dump all my coins and move on and I'm not alone. A closed source miner kept private getting a majority of all the coins. Come on. we're mining 5000-7000 coins a dayhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=167229.msg7320842#msg7320842I have nothing bad to say about the dev of the miner because I would probably do the same. But I wouldn't be surprised if people called for changes either. smug sob, dev please fork, your coin is too good to be destroyed by one greed idiot. Hope that's not true about someone having a gpu miner and keeping it to themselves because of greed. That would defeat the ideals of decentralization in the crypto world. If I understand it well, GPU miner is not so much more profitable than CPU mining. Maybe 2-3 times. It is nice for its creator, but not so destructive for the coin.
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People, do not get overexcited about 1st position of XMR on Mintpal voting list. On this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=639308.0 you find a post of a guy who advertises That he/they can get any coin, which pays something to Mintpal. I have checked last 5 added: MyCoin, EntropyCoin, InformationCoin, YellowCoin and XXLCoin. It is obvious, there was no community behind them and that they could not get as many votes normal way. Monero has relatively strong community, but it got as high in voting only because of paid votes. Devs of theese above mentioned shitcoins paid some BTC for that "service" pumped a price and cashed out by the time coin was added to Mintpal. All of them are dead now - I mean coins, not devs  BTW -I have not seen a coin as dead as XXLCoin  I believe Zimstake is the next one to be promoted this way and it will be interesting to see how the "voting bot" will fight XMR bagholders. The question is also why Mintpal did not add XMR as their choice yet. It has great volume for several weeks. Maybe they want to cash paid votes for this coin, maybe their insiders are not bought into it. Or maybe they see XMR as technologically not prepared. I was quite frustrated from using Monero. I have lost some coins in transfer between exchanges because I was not sure how payment ID works. Then I downloaded wallet, but it took 2 days to sync it, because of some strange problems. And the wallet itself - it is really for geeks, not for normal people. Many people will be discouraged all of this if it will be their first contact with this coin. It is quite frustrating to read from devs, that they do not intend to improve wallet and make the coin more user friendly soon. I support XMR, but I have found Boolberry coin (BBR), which is also cryptonote based, but with many improvements. It has nice and working graphic wallet, it was synchronized in few minutes (block height of BBR is 1/4 of XMR). Moreover its marketcap is 1/10 of XMR. The only problem is that there are not enough investors yet.
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There is no big buy wall support here..Price will down to 130K I think...
Are kidding me? 0.00160000 24201.54008983 38.72246414 How big do you want?  That wall could be eaten any time. Yesterday 43 BTC buy wall at 0.002+ was destroyed in a single sale and i guess the dumper is probably Christian. His team is mining roughly 50% of newly minted BBR each day with his private GPU mining script. If he is happy to dump at 0.002, there is a chance he will continue to dump at 0.0016. He will keep doing so as long as he still make profit. I strongly believe it was fake sell. There was a discussion about testing the buywall in Poloniex trollbox and a guy named "Monero" announced he will do it. Next minute it was sold. Then he anounced another dump and it happened, but it was panic sell by small traders. Same wall as before appeared there in few hours at much lower level. It is still there slowly going up. Selling coins worth of 42 BTC at price 0.00225 costs less than 0.1 BTC on Poloniex. It is not big price for such a game. It seems this guy owns at least 42 BTC and approximately 20000 BBR (which is 5% of existing coins). It is a big player and question is what are his intentions. I hope it is not to destroy this coin - he would loose lots of money too. Maybe he is just trying to accumulate more at low price, and push price higher, but this strategy (simple big buy wall) is not so effective anymore. He should learn from guys who pumped VRC and Crypt, they know, how to do it. BBR is really good coin. I am fan of Monero, but this is really improvement. With market cap at 600-800 BTC it is 1/10 of monero. Imagine, where it can go if treated well. It needs wise investors understanding its potential. Lets hope BBR will get it. It wasn't a fake sell, was one of my sell orders. explanation is much simpler: sold some of holdings to take profits, after reading posts of cbuchner. Sorry, but I do not believe you. So why are we seening more or less same wall again. And the same behaviour? It is the same person with same money. I am patient. I know this coin will go high...
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There is no big buy wall support here..Price will down to 130K I think...
Are kidding me? 0.00160000 24201.54008983 38.72246414 How big do you want?  That wall could be eaten any time. Yesterday 43 BTC buy wall at 0.002+ was destroyed in a single sale and i guess the dumper is probably Christian. His team is mining roughly 50% of newly minted BBR each day with his private GPU mining script. If he is happy to dump at 0.002, there is a chance he will continue to dump at 0.0016. He will keep doing so as long as he still make profit. I strongly believe it was fake sell. There was a discussion about testing the buywall in Poloniex trollbox and a guy named "Monero" announced he will do it. Next minute it was sold. Then he anounced another dump and it happened, but it was panic sell by small traders. Same wall as before appeared there in few hours at much lower level. It is still there slowly going up. Selling coins worth of 42 BTC at price 0.00225 costs less than 0.1 BTC on Poloniex. It is not big price for such a game. It seems this guy owns at least 42 BTC and approximately 20000 BBR (which is 5% of existing coins). It is a big player and question is what are his intentions. I hope it is not to destroy this coin - he would loose lots of money too. Maybe he is just trying to accumulate more at low price, and push price higher, but this strategy (simple big buy wall) is not so effective anymore. He should learn from guys who pumped VRC and Crypt, they know, how to do it. BBR is really good coin. I am fan of Monero, but this is really improvement. With market cap at 600-800 BTC it is 1/10 of monero. Imagine, where it can go if treated well. It needs wise investors understanding its potential. Lets hope BBR will get it.
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Who has the 40 btc huge buy wall on poloniex?
A forward thinking future millionare I think it is current millionaire  Nobody is going to sell into that wall, but he has enough BTC to push the price high and BBR to sell later already, that is sure.
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I did a withdraw yesterday, and it failed with status "COMPLETE: ERROR". The money was deducted from my account anyway, and it hasn't come back yet. Trying to withdraw right now doesn't seem like a good idea.
I had the same problem. Just ask in poloniex trollbox moderator to solve it and they correct it in one minute (at least in my case they did).
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OK, I am also out. I have lost 0.5 BTC with this scam, but I must admit it is fun to be part of this Horrorcoin story. I enjoy to see how it will develop.
But one thing is sure - I will never touch it again, even if it should be second bitcoin.
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Devs have written 2 days ago, that they do not want to support day-traders, but longterm investors. I think that is why they are silent for two days.
that not really a good tactic. It will scare off long term investors ass well. You cant make a coin for just long term investors. You also need daytraders and miners. I agree, that it is not good tactics. But daytraders are not easy to discourage when they hope for easy profit. This thread is watched by lots of people. They will panic buy in immediately after news are released. . If you check buy and sell orders on Bittrex and Poloniex, you will see, that price can jump high and quickly. Only after this people will start to think what is the announcement about and future price trend will be created. "Horrorcoin" show goes on.
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Devs have written 2 days ago, that they do not want to support day-traders, but longterm investors. I think that is why they are silent for two days.
There are buy walls placed at low price and many people sell into it. Some people are loading bags, other sell at loss. Then we will have an announcment and price will jump much higher to another level. Then there will be another FUD, another daytraders selling at loss and bigger investors buying.
I am pissed of this, because it is dangerous strategy, but I can understand them.
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Thanks for the cheap coins guys and the entertainment was good also.
LOL +1 I must admit that the entertainment is almost worth of BTC which I am risking with this coin 
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There is a buy order at Bittrex.com worth of 18 BTC at price level 0.00001360 Somebody wants to buy lots of cheap coins from people who are scared by FUD posts on this forum. It is not fake buy wall, because if there is some cheating from dev, he or anybody could smash there big amount of XHC right now. So people, do not get fooled and do not sell your coins too cheap - at least untill I release some funds to buy more  Lets see if the buy wall remains for another 8 hours for in case the person that placed it was asleep for the last hour or so. I was also a believer, but devs of other coins are just more active in their threads. I really hope for everyone's sake that this is not a scam and that the hacking claims are just fake FUD. If everything checks out and is above board I will buy back in. I do not think anybody would put sucha big buy order on small coin without plan. Or that he/she goes to sleep after this. I believe more and more that somebody is pushing the price down by FUD before the announcement. Until the wall is there it is stupid to sell. And the wall stays despite it was already eaten a bit. If it would be fake it would be gone already.
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