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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [LIFE] Token | Card | Reward | Simply for everyday people | Launched on: March 03, 2018, 11:17:05 PM
Thanks for your reply Electric. I concur with your comments regarding the volatility of this token and the effect of the spike on the community's confidence in the project.

As far as your comments on transparency are concerned, I would certainly agree that any company would be foolish to promulgate information about R&D in the form of weekly updates. However, that is a matter of commercial confidentiality aimed at protecting intellectual property and so on from competitors wishing to gain a competitive edge. I'd regard that more as disclosure than transparency. My concern regarding transparency - and, ironically, I accept that I may not have made it sufficiently clear - centres on the extent to which the LIFE team have been candid and honest about what lies behind the project, not the minutiea of product development. It seems to me that they need to be more open and direct. They also need to disambiguate their communications in order to resore some confidence in LIFE. To import you car analogy for my purposes, obviously no manufacturer would reveal development details ahead of a product launch. However,it is a matter of record that the largest car maker in the world, Volkswagen, deliberately contrived to deceive its customers and the wider consumer base, by misrepresenting the ecologigal credentials of their diesel models with false emissions data. It is a policy that has cost them dear. Not only have they suffered reputational damage, but will certainly take a huge financial hit when the legal actions currently underway in the US come to fruition. Had they been honest with their customers, they would not have sought to lie to them. But having done so, it would have been far better to have acknowledged their culpability and engaged in damage limitation at an earlier stage. LIFE's no VW, but if they want people to buy into their vision at this embryonic stage, the team must be completely straight about themselves and their project.

I can understand why you choose to compare LIFE with Apple and car manufacturers, but the token is not a product that can be considered alongside a phone or a car. It has a digital existence and a value and status that are determined exclusively by the importance attached to it by the community. There is no underlying intrinsic value to LIFE and it is not properly fungible as some other asset classes are. To that extent the success or otherwise of the token and the project in general is intinsically connected to the team, so much so as to be to all intents and puposes indistinguishable from it. Everybody who buys LIFE is taking a punt. There's nothing wrong with that. But there is something wrong with a company that presents a compelling image, but fails to engage fully with the supporters who can make or break it. It is at best lazy and at worst dishonest.

Your point about the adopters carries weight, but in my view only from the perspective of the originators of the project. A group of people coming together to create a cryptocurency would seek to make their creation as credible as possible. They would want the venture to appear solid and substantial, and the window dressing provided by the adopters would be essential in validating their proposition. They might also wish to imbue it with some kind of USP, like a charitable component. Something like that would give the project a patina of respectability. Where I part company with you is in accepting that this is sufficient to instill confidence in prospective buyers of both the token and the team. What kudos or growth is likely to accrue from an association with a few new businesses that haven't yet got off the ground themselves? Furthermore, why would anyone choose to throw money at a group of guys who've had a light- bulb moment and are asking us to believe that their little start-up will be worth hundreds of millions of pounds in a few months? I would not be so focused on this point but for Jon Bushnell's upbeat and frankly fantastical assurances about LIFE's incandescently bright future. His glass isn't half full, it's positively overflowing!

Let's just examine some of his comments. Currently LIFE's market cap sits in the range between $6million and $9million. Albeit that it's a hypothesis, Mr Bushnell indicates in the La Bulle Crypto interview broadcast on 16th December 2017, that In June 2018 the market cap might be circa £600million or more than $1billion. That assumes more than a hundred fold growth rate to get it to that point from the lowest current value. It is absurd to posit that this may materialise in four months, particularly looking at the current trajectory. However, it is even more ridiculuous to have made that prediction in mid December 2017 when the market cap was circa $5million. The recording actually took place on the 6th when the market cap was less than $2million. He asserts that it's just mathematics, while ignoring the fact that any rise in value is predicated on continued interest from a growing community of speculators. That's the seed bed that forces growth, not a misplaced faith in exponential curves. He goes on to suggest that a major marketing campaign is in prospect. He blithely reassures us that LIFE will be seen 'everywhere'. He references TV, radio and other media . He even drags in Hollywood at one point. Apparently LIFE will be 'placed in a variety of places, all over the place.' Maybe they'll stick the logo on Kim Jon-un's next rocket or get it embroidered on Meghan Markle's wedding dress, who knows? He also comments that the 'banking system is flawed in terms of trust'. That's certainly true,  yet faced with a tanking market cap, he is doing little or nothing to restore confidence and trust in LIFE by communicating directly and honestly with its supporters. His position is becoming increasingly invidious.

Electric, you sound like the kind of guy who's got his head screwed on and is just looking at LIFE as a high risk component of a  balanced portfolio. I hope you don't lose money on it, but I'm guessing you can take the hit. For everyone else, I think the coffee's finally precolated. You need to wake up and smell it. Then you can decide to drink it or tip it down the sink. Old Hat, just be cautious and don't risk what you can't afford to lose. Even using Electric's criterion of judgement, you are self-evidently not an idiot, as you are clearly full of doubts. And don't worry, your English is excellent. 10sat, great comment. I think you might just be a philosopher to rival the greats!


Some people would call me crazy but I seen these warning signs after I invested at first and started asking questions. This all Didn't make sense and Jon himself was a warning sign. Hope people do wake up and see the fools gold that's presented as real gold. I heard they are scrapping the whitepaper and how founders have stepped down/back.  Which is all in all a big warning sign. What people bought into including myself at first was all a big sham. A quickly written formula which I believe Life team already cashed out.  Now they are looking for someone to put the pieces together before the riot starts.  Even then it's a big task because almost everything on that whitepaper is false.  I don't know if they lived up to anything on their white paper.  Good Luck to all in this cryptosphere but be careful and be mindful of this lesson which is called Life.
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [LIFE] Token | Card | Reward | Simply for everyday people | Launched on: March 03, 2018, 06:16:36 PM
That article is simple research and follow ups which just proves the company has a lot of issues, that person being 20 years old or not did what many people failed to do before investing..  Life's Whitepaper is completely bogus at this point.  Almost everything on there is up for discussion. All the people promoting this token, says they have nothing to hide, but they hiding things anyway. 
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [LIFE] Token | Card | Reward | Simply for everyday people | Launched on: February 22, 2018, 05:09:48 PM
Fraudulent Enterprise? LOL what's even more funny is that you think i'm tied to a fiverr account and ebay account with same name. lol  Poor guy you're doing that too going to suffer at your expense. But you've failed because it still won't affect me.   I own this name on three accounts bitTalk stock twits and reddit. I created this name randomly because originally I couldn’t get live right.
Up until today I DID NOT OWN ANY FIVERR ACCOUNTS. I've sent this person a link to this page so they have proof so they wouldn't be apart of your collateral damage of over the top accusations.  I do own a Ebay account but the name is far from this name I created here.  So instead of throwing bullets at randoms maybe you should  get your facts straight. I have nothing to do with your movie style Life shakedown.

I also deleted my last post because the photo submitted to me was possibly compromised and I don't post things that might be compromised.

You are just talking out of your ass at this point to even make it seem like I have anything to do with Life's issues on telegram.  I started this life posts because they are legit concerns I don't care to have life tokens but I do care in having these questions answered.  Good luck putting me in some fake extortion gig your lifers created


Dude, you have been destroyed and dismembered. ElectricFox did (like in moral combat) a Brutality + Fatlity without getting any hit from you during the fight (which did not even have to take place).

My advice to you: Please just calm down, relax, get your head down, buy some more LIFE if you want to be a nice part of this project. If not... pls do us all a favor and be quiet, at least in this thread at BitcoinTalk.

We will give you a huuuuuge thank you for that. And im starting with it:

THANK YOU!

Destroyed from kid talking out his ass with his assumptions? You're just as delusional like dude.
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [LIFE] Token | Card | Reward | Simply for everyday people | Launched on: February 21, 2018, 09:25:13 PM
Fraudulent Enterprise? LOL what's even more funny is that you think i'm tied to a fiverr account and ebay account with same name. lol  Poor guy you're doing that too going to suffer at your expense. But you've failed because it still won't affect me.   I own this name on three accounts bitTalk stock twits and reddit. I created this name randomly because originally I couldn’t get live right.
Up until today I DID NOT OWN ANY FIVERR ACCOUNTS. I've sent this person a link to this page so they have proof so they wouldn't be apart of your collateral damage of over the top accusations.  I do own a Ebay account but the name is far from this name I created here.  So instead of throwing bullets at randoms maybe you should  get your facts straight. I have nothing to do with your movie style Life shakedown.

I also deleted my last post because the photo submitted to me was possibly compromised and I don't post things that might be compromised.

You are just talking out of your ass at this point to even make it seem like I have anything to do with Life's issues on telegram.  I started this life posts because they are legit concerns I don't care to have life tokens but I do care in having these questions answered.  Good luck putting me in some fake extortion gig your lifers created
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [LIFE] Token | Card | Reward | Simply for everyday people | Launched on: February 21, 2018, 04:02:15 AM
Live, Liv, whatever your name is, you mentioned defamation of character but what do you think you're doing to LIFE and the team? That and much worse, you're digging a very deep hole that's going to cave in on you very soon unless you can provide evidence that is worthy of a court room. You say you bought LIFE for less than 10 Sats, how? 10 Sats was the original price, it doesn't get any lower than that. Your posts are ramblings full of misinformation.

Go read my posts and look at it and stop talking out your ass. Once upon a time Life token was less than 10 sats.
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [LIFE] Token | Card | Reward | Simply for everyday people | Launched on: February 20, 2018, 08:04:35 PM
When future investors read your post they'll be running away to the nearest crypto.

I don't usually say this but do you need a hug or something? All the rubbish and lies you've been spreading must have taken it's toll buddy?

It's funny to see you turn into a little marshmallow. I know some psychology, you need the hug but i'm not the one. 1-800-273-8255
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [LIFE] Token | Card | Reward | Simply for everyday people | Launched on: February 20, 2018, 06:34:48 PM
When future investors read your post they'll be running away to the nearest crypto.
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [LIFE] Token | Card | Reward | Simply for everyday people | Launched on: February 20, 2018, 05:07:20 PM
I was once told who writes in capital letters and in red, the other knows not to help. This will not make your statements any better or believable. Just as you want to spread hate, I suspect that you bought at 60 Satoshi  Grin

Thank you for your 2cents poetry mate, quite moving. On the opposite of Livewryght and his scumbags, my statement is based on facts only, with proofs. The screenshots are here and they speak for themselves.

On that subject, while we are at it, here's a new one. This is our friend a few weeks ago, shilling Life Token in good form, according to him "Probably the best investment of 2018" :

https://i.redd.it/itang5ilfdh01.jpg
https://imgur.com/a/0tla7

I bet he went all in at 30 sat, and now it hurts a little bit for him so he wouldn't be against robbing a few millions here and there.

And sorry but you suspect wrong smart boy, I bought everything between 2-3 sat, long before you guys. So even at today's price I'm not worried at all. And even if it crashes, I won't be bothered because Life is only one position in my portfolio, and not a major one.

You guys are a joke, nothing else. Your stupidity is limitless.

I sold every single token of Life I've purchased. FYI I purchased under 10 sats.  When I found out the information about Life and the lack of substance to this project I jumped ship. I would recommend anyone that values their money to do the same. Read up on the information about this project, join the community and you will see for yourself. Life will not go anywhere.
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [LIFE] Token | Card | Reward | Simply for everyday people | Launched on: February 20, 2018, 05:01:14 PM
Creating fake accounts to discredit me is an all time low! Nice try I have one account, no matter what you guys try you can't hide from what's coming!

The real issue is that you don't need to be discredited simply reading your statements is enough. I'm a lawyer and you speak no truth I'm afraid. You have concerns about communication and that's ok but the rest of it is of no use or issue.

As I'm now an investor I'm still not clear what your concerns are. I see no major flags here. A few unanswered questions perhaps. Ive been here for years and seen peaks and tell us many many times. You are still making up issues. You're stating bankruptcy but have never once stated to what entity? They owe government money when in fact they don't? Pleas tell me what's coming? You are now affecting my investment Sam Jacobs! You need to start telling the truth and proving your statements. Don't post links and say it's there as there is  nothing there other than government documents. Also if you are such an expert please explain you're background? You are aware that people affected by you could launch a lawsuit against you? Fake news is all the rage and you are prime culprit!

Everyone's a lawyer on the internet. Ever heard of defamation of character? Without proof I wouldn't be calling me random names you so called lawyer.

You'll note I previously said former lawyer now im in crypto land but that doesn't make me any less a person with substantial knowledge of the law! So please do try your best I've not had a good legal fight for many years! Please note my move starts now little man ya'll be expecting me 😉😆

See your tone piped down Mr. Defamation of Character
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [LIFE] Token | Card | Reward | Simply for everyday people | Launched on: February 20, 2018, 03:27:01 PM
Creating fake accounts to discredit me is an all time low! Nice try I have one account, no matter what you guys try you can't hide from what's coming!

The real issue is that you don't need to be discredited simply reading your statements is enough. I'm a lawyer and you speak no truth I'm afraid. You have concerns about communication and that's ok but the rest of it is of no use or issue.

As I'm now an investor I'm still not clear what your concerns are. I see no major flags here. A few unanswered questions perhaps. Ive been here for years and seen peaks and tell us many many times. You are still making up issues. You're stating bankruptcy but have never once stated to what entity? They owe government money when in fact they don't? Pleas tell me what's coming? You are now affecting my investment Sam Jacobs! You need to start telling the truth and proving your statements. Don't post links and say it's there as there is  nothing there other than government documents. Also if you are such an expert please explain you're background? You are aware that people affected by you could launch a lawsuit against you? Fake news is all the rage and you are prime culprit!

Everyone's a lawyer on the internet. Ever heard of defamation of character? Without proof I wouldn't be calling me random names you so called lawyer.
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [LIFE] Token | Card | Reward | Simply for everyday people | Launched on: February 20, 2018, 12:27:26 PM
Creating fake accounts to discredit me is an all time low! Nice try I have one account, no matter what you guys try you can't hide from what's coming!
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [LIFE] Token | Card | Reward | Simply for everyday people | Launched on: February 20, 2018, 04:56:07 AM
I seen the fake post someone impersonating me. This whole Life thing has gotten out of hand. It's gotten this far that you have to pretend to be me to discredit me? I have no ties to any one name kay co and all my claims are legit and has not been addressed anywhere.
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [LIFE] Token | Card | Reward | Simply for everyday people | Launched on: February 19, 2018, 09:54:37 PM
Go on and on please, make a fool of yourself. You can get arrested with their sorry asses for this massive scam
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [LIFE] Token | Card | Reward | Simply for everyday people | Launched on: February 19, 2018, 02:16:59 PM
Your statements make no sense anyone with a brain and eyes can read what’s true and what’s not that’s why life token has hit the bottom and can’t get up. Saying things aren’t true with obvious proof infont of it is only proving my point. Good luck with misguiding our community
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [LIFE] Token | Card | Reward | Simply for everyday people | Launched on: February 19, 2018, 01:11:38 PM
Stating I’m part of a group is just showing how life community is well misinformed.  Bunch of misguided impulsive people let loose on the internet.  Read my posts for the facts
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [LIFE] Token | Card | Reward | Simply for everyday people | Launched on: February 19, 2018, 09:48:52 AM
It's actually funny the arguments posted all over bitcoin talk and reddit and  everywhere else are valid concerns with proof so why does this matter if your shady team is now being messaged by randoms? If they were made up arguments with no backing then maybe your screenshots would hold some weight.  This fake story was probably created to distract from the real issue at hand. Life team has a lot of explaining to do.

Why is Jonathan listed as a co-owner but is not on government paperwork?
 
And why is Andrew Bird listed as an owner and not on the white paper???
http://www.lifelabs.io/ctrl/wp-content/uploads/LIFE-WHITEPAPER-1.05.pdf
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10798976/officers

Why was cryptosaurus and Pure living homes not listed as owned by Life team? Even though life team members are all listed as officers on all paper work.
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10804209
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10133885

Why does Pureliving homes have an overdue balance by the government of UK? Jonathan owns this company and he's suppose to advise Life token to full worldwide adoption and can't even be responsible and clear balances for his company? Would they even be a company in 2 months?
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10133885

What's with the insolvency case your so called owners Jonathan and Life labs co-owners apart of? Experienced team with failed businesses.
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08504976

If your adopter Cryptosaurus has an untouched wallet and is currently selling Life tokens, where is the real wallet location for this adopter and why wasn't it not listed that cryptosaurus has more than 2 Billion tokens in your whitepaper?
https://etherscan.io/token/0xff18dbc487b4c2e3222d115952babfda8ba52f5f?a=0x427fBd772C67523655012ac7e7FF6E6fAd7237B0+

Visa and Master card says they have no connection and affiliation nor any deals with Life Labs for their upcoming card. From phone calls made regarding the claims made on telegram by their member Anwar Ali.  

Lifelabs & Life Token has no development team, they claim to be creating a wallet and having the ability to spend life tokens with a card but they have no dev team and no Github.

Their telegram is full of fake accounts shilling the token and persuading people to buy large amounts and hold "for years to come" But buy wall at 10-30 sats is over 1 billion tokens.

Life team has stacked this coins buy wall because there are not as many buyers and Life has yet to expose any wallets for transparency to end the talk about them stacking the buy walls to sell out.

It's only a matter of time everyone invested in this coin will catch on to the bigger picture and that this token which took less than 15 mins to create with a whitepaper made possibly from Fiverr is nothing but a scam.

This project is a total failure not to mention they hit rock bottom in prices and everyone is jumping this sinking ship for a reason it's not fudders killing this token it's because this project just smells like a total scam.  I wouldn't be surprised if this whole "ransom" "extortion" thing was created by Anwar with his many fake accounts.

Good luck selling this coin with no buyers.  I've sold every coin I have and promised to make sure no one makes the mistake I made by investing in this shady token.
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [LIFE] Token | Card | Reward | Simply for everyday people | Launched on: February 16, 2018, 03:22:18 PM
You can think of me how ever you want, I do not care. My purpose is to shed light on this shady project.  If you think this is a good project you're just blinded by the fact that this token sits at 10-20sats.  If you were to look closely and read between the lines you would see that this project is just as shady as they come.
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [LIFE] Token | Card | Reward | Simply for everyday people | Launched on: February 16, 2018, 01:13:57 AM
wake up and smell the coffee they named adopters that hold large stakes and they own the adopters. They also claim their coming out with a card but who's issuing these cards. Which bank is going to allow this in the UK? also why do you find it necessary to claim these things are lies when the life team refuses to address them? go back in your hole and hold your bag of Life Dust.
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [LIFE] Token | Card | Reward | Simply for everyday people | Launched on: February 15, 2018, 07:49:36 PM
Hey life team care to share us the wallet of Cryptosaurus so the community can see what has been happening since you gave them bilions of tokens??? OK THANKS
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [LIFE] Token | Card | Reward | Simply for everyday people | Launched on: February 14, 2018, 02:53:49 PM
after you watch that interview go read these reddit threads.

https://www.reddit.com/r/LIFEtoken/comments/7wyvqt/who_is_jonathan_bushnell_and_why_is_he_not_listed/

https://www.reddit.com/r/LIFEtoken/comments/7xf8af/pure_living_homes_aka_jonathan_bushnell_owes_the/
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