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1  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER C1 Discussion and Support Thread on: July 28, 2015, 04:10:33 PM
@tbolt Looking at your results I feel the Core voltage must be changing as I cannot see that anything else could give such a big change in power consumption.

My measurements all relate to S3 & S3+ which I think have similar hashing boards to the C2. There is BTW at least as much uncertainty in the S3 threads as to weather it is possible to reduce the core voltage with the software. I have the schematic for the S1, have not seen one for the S3 but they are similar. I am definitely measuring at the correct place, the output of the Buck Converter after the large inductor and even with the correct firmware, Bitmain disabled voltage adjustment in the latest, it does not change. Yes to Save & Apply and power off & restart.

Do you have a picture of the hash board in your C1 showing the buck converters to compare to the S3?

Thanks



@RichBC

These are the only images that I have of the C1 hash board.




2  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER C1 Discussion and Support Thread on: July 27, 2015, 11:17:39 PM
I have not measured the core voltage directly with a DVM.

Are you sure you are looking in the correct location?
Do you have a schematic of the board or are you just using the ASIC device data sheet?

After you Modify voltage, you do a Save&Apply, then need to Power off and Restart the miner, right?
3  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER C1 Discussion and Support Thread on: July 27, 2015, 09:27:14 PM
The C1 hashing boards are S3 family boards.

So, yes - they are capable of changing the voltage.

I have a C1 Batch 1 and a C1 Batch 2.


The best settings for Under-volting/Under-clocking were suggested by another user:

0675/200      530W      803Ghs      0.66W/Ghs

0760/250      790W       1008Ghs       0.783W/Ghs

I set mine to 803GHs now because it's summer here and heat is an issue.
In the winter, 1008GHs.

Hope this helps
4  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER C1 Discussion and Support Thread on: July 10, 2015, 09:28:00 PM
Hopefully the image showed you the fried chips :/

(main chip in middle with a star formation burnt into the silicon and U4 (bottom right of main chip)- bulged and blackened)

The BBB shows no power light, I have tried to hard wire the BBB and I do get a brief power light flash but nothing else. - no constant information to keep the board on I am guessing.





Ask Bitmain if you can send a C1 miner in for repair.

(Let them worry about where to find you a new one, if needed, or repair yours.)


BTW
I tried to purchase that controller card from them last year, that was the one C1 component that
they wouldn't let me purchase ... probably for proprietary reasons.

I was going to convert my 2x S3s into a C1 but, I couldn't without that controller.
5  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER C1 Discussion and Support Thread on: May 06, 2015, 04:03:42 PM
You said:

Falling hashrate problem with a C1.  It has been running at intentionally lower frequency to baby it.  Should be running at 960GH/s@243.5M and after a cold start it does but drops to 850GH/s after a few hours.  Up last night I restarted due to 850GH/s hashrate.  

  If this isn't it then it's an ASIC that heats and accumulates errors (an internal board) but even when the hashboard isn't drawing much current while the other three are, there are no x's in any chain.
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Let it run at the lower 850GH/s hashrate for a day or so, you should see X's appear on one of the chains..

Just to rule out other possible causes:
Have you swapped Power Supplies with a different (working) C1?
Have you swapped the Pump/radiator/cooling setup with a working C1?
Ambient temperature?




More than likely it's a cooling problem if it happens after it has ran for several hours IMO

I had a similar problem, at stock settings - 250M/0760 volts (hash rate should be 1008 GH/s, would drop to ~930 GH/s)
to correct this, I had to replace the cooling block used on chain #2



I now run both of mine at 200M /0675 Volts - gives me 805 GH/s each
-due to heat concerns. They are both stable now having run for 29 days
without touching them


6  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER C1 Discussion and Support Thread on: April 29, 2015, 10:52:59 PM
Batch 4?

C2 (with the higher density chips) ?

7  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER C1 Discussion and Support Thread on: April 20, 2015, 10:11:50 PM
The large tank pump has arrived from China but the other two pumps have been moving water with no loss for quite some time so I won't disturb the setup.  My two C1's are running at 37/39/37/38° & 36/40/38/40° so I like water cooling.  These board are the same as the S3+'s if I'm not mistaken but well cooled so capable of higher hashrate?  I'm running my C1's 243.75M/00675v/981GH/s for lower current on the line.  One S3+ is running at 42/39° and the other with a single board is 39°.  The one with the single board had started to heat up so I removed a cheesecloth filter dropping the temps down from mid-50° to the 40°'s but perhaps the damage had already been done.  The next day one of its boards had failed.  The higher temp meant higher current due to increased inefficiency and some damage occurred.  So, I like the water cooling.  I'd like to put water blocks in the S3+'s.

You can buy the Water blocks..
http://shop.syscooling.com/goods.php?id=47

but, remember the C1 also has the Air Cooled Heatsinks
email syscooling, I bet they make those also..





Nice.  Thanks.

I see the ribbon cables will conflict if both board are orientated top up.  Or one could buy two water blocks and only put a single board on each so as to have the distance.



Right, the cables would be a consideration.

Also, some earlier revision S3 boards have the data cable connector mounted
on the back side of the board.

The C1 boards are delivered with ribbon connectors all on the component side of the board.
Makes it easier to plug in ribbon cable if you have back to back boards mounted on a water block situation.

It's possible to twist the cable and squeeze it in between two boards on a C1 if you
have an older rev hashing board.. if, the cable will reach.



8  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER C1 Discussion and Support Thread on: April 20, 2015, 09:22:38 PM
The large tank pump has arrived from China but the other two pumps have been moving water with no loss for quite some time so I won't disturb the setup.  My two C1's are running at 37/39/37/38° & 36/40/38/40° so I like water cooling.  These board are the same as the S3+'s if I'm not mistaken but well cooled so capable of higher hashrate?  I'm running my C1's 243.75M/00675v/981GH/s for lower current on the line.  One S3+ is running at 42/39° and the other with a single board is 39°.  The one with the single board had started to heat up so I removed a cheesecloth filter dropping the temps down from mid-50° to the 40°'s but perhaps the damage had already been done.  The next day one of its boards had failed.  The higher temp meant higher current due to increased inefficiency and some damage occurred.  So, I like the water cooling.  I'd like to put water blocks in the S3+'s.

You can buy the Water blocks..
http://shop.syscooling.com/goods.php?id=47

but, remember the C1 also has the Air Cooled Heatsinks
email syscooling, I bet they make those also..



9  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER C1 Discussion and Support Thread on: April 06, 2015, 09:48:49 PM
I tested underclocking-volting the C1.

The best setting was suggested by another user 2 weeks ago:

675/200 530W  803Mhs 0.66W/Mhs
760/250 790W 1008Mhs 0.783W/Mhs

FYI I have an EVGA 1300W gold.


Could you locate that post please?  Your's seems to be the first reference to 0.66W/Mhs on this or the S3+ forums when I search 0.66W/Mhs.

The top of page 72
Post # 1421

He meant 0.66W/GHs
10  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER C1 Discussion and Support Thread on: March 31, 2015, 08:37:46 PM
Getting my first C1 later this week with a new and dry cooling kit. What's the best coolant options to fill it with? Looking for max cooling to keep fan noise low.

I've had good luck with this coolant:
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/17472/ex-liq-262/XSPC_EC6_High_Performance_Liquid_Cooling_Premix_Coolant_-_1L_-_UV_Green.html

11  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER C1 Discussion and Support Thread on: March 30, 2015, 04:11:03 PM
Seeing the C1 may be out of fashion, anyone have any unused, valid C1 vouchers floating about?

 
If you did not receive a coupon and you’d like to purchase a miner with a coupon, please do not hesitate and send an email to info@bitmaintech.com in the below format. We will manually assign the coupon to your account. You can only use one coupon per miner.
 
Email Subject: Please assign the coupons to my account
User ID (the account in bitmaintech.com): 
Coupon Type (S3+, S4 and C1):
Quantity
12  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER C1 Discussion and Support Thread on: March 27, 2015, 01:25:41 PM
hi

i got problem with one unit.
one of boards is dropping after few hours of hashing (it hashes ~800GH/sec after some time)
only power off and on resolving issue

is there any other solution to fix this ?

i use miner at stock settings.
it is powered by 1300W platinum psu, tested others psu too, same issue

thanks

I have one that does this aswell.  I have tried new firmware.  Nothing I did seems to stop it after a few hours going down.  I think it's one of my boards a this point.

I wonder if I could find the blade and redo thermal paste on it would help.  But I have been afraid I will lose entire board if I happen to be wrong.

If it happens after a few hours, it is a cooling problem.

I had to replace the cooling block to fix my very similar problem.

I had 5 Xs on the 2nd chain hash board after a couple of hours.



It really was the water block or only the termal paste?

In my case it was the water block.

..Try the thermal paste first
13  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER C1 Discussion and Support Thread on: March 26, 2015, 10:55:07 PM


My Notes from the teardown of my C1 Miner


1. Be aware that the cooling blocks (that nearly all screws in the C1 attach to)
are made of extremely soft aluminum. Very easy to strip.

2. Use only a LIGHT 2-finger torque on all of the screws.

3. The 4 Spring loaded screws that attach the Air cooled side heatsinks (fins)
were by far the hardest to get right. Extreme care should be taken with these screws
Very light touch using a good screwdriver. The heads on these screws are also easy
to strip out. LIGHT touch.

Do not over tighten these 4 screws, I believe these 4 screws are capable of bottoming out
in their screw threads in the cooling block

4. When reassembling, compare the Air cooled fins position (or orientation)
to one of the other hashing boards. You can use vias or one of the components on the board
to eyeball the position of the heatsink. These Air cooled heatsinks float on the top
of the ASIC chips, hence the Springs to keep the force.

5. Once installed, you can compare the Spring action (tension) between two or more
of the hashing boards. You can rock the board up a bit (1mm) if you reach your fingertips
underneath the top of the heatsink. This is only to compare the tension between
two different heatsinks. You don't have to do this.

6. Also, do not tighten with any force the Cooling block coolant connections as
they will sheer off completely if too much force is used (soft aluminum).

7. The Cooling blocks are available from the SysCooling web site.

http://shop.syscooling.com/goods.php?id=47

8. Reapply thermal paste on the ASIC chips

14  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER C1 Discussion and Support Thread on: March 26, 2015, 09:46:09 PM
hi

i got problem with one unit.
one of boards is dropping after few hours of hashing (it hashes ~800GH/sec after some time)
only power off and on resolving issue

is there any other solution to fix this ?

i use miner at stock settings.
it is powered by 1300W platinum psu, tested others psu too, same issue

thanks

I have one that does this aswell.  I have tried new firmware.  Nothing I did seems to stop it after a few hours going down.  I think it's one of my boards a this point.

I wonder if I could find the blade and redo thermal paste on it would help.  But I have been afraid I will lose entire board if I happen to be wrong.

If it happens after a few hours, it is a cooling problem.

I had to replace the cooling block to fix my very similar problem.

I had 5 Xs on the 2nd chain hash board after a couple of hours.

15  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER C1 Discussion and Support Thread on: March 26, 2015, 03:52:02 PM
hi

i got problem with one unit.
one of boards is dropping after few hours of hashing (it hashes ~800GH/sec after some time)
only power off and on resolving issue

is there any other solution to fix this ?

i use miner at stock settings.
it is powered by 1300W platinum psu, tested others psu too, same issue

thanks

Can you post a screen shot of the miner status page?
(that would be helpful - use tinypic.com)

What is your ambient temperature like?

So, you are running it at 250M freq. and 0760 Volts?

16  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER C1 Discussion and Support Thread on: March 21, 2015, 03:58:28 PM
Odd underclocking success here. Thought I'd post it :

200Mhz Freq, 071v, 840Gh/s average @ 600watts exactly. (GH jumps from 760 - 1120 though.)

Best ratio yet.


Thanks for posting this.



17  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER C1 Discussion and Support Thread on: March 19, 2015, 09:26:00 PM
About a week ago I upgraded firmware (yes it's old firmware I just never did it).  But after a week no problems with the firmware.

One is a little more babysitting with the X's but that was same before.  Other works all days if not weeks no problems.

What is the firmware date that you are using now?
18  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER C1 Discussion and Support Thread on: March 15, 2015, 06:44:58 PM
@BitmainWarranty

How about passing this on to the engineers while you are at it:

On the S3+s, I can reboot them from the software GUI, without issue.

On the C1s, if I reboot (GUI) they do not come back up cleanly, you have to reset the power switch.


When I say they don't come back up cleanly, I mean the hash rate does not return to the
1000GH/s. Maybe 760 GH/s

Often times the ASICs on chain #2 or chain #3 hashing boards come up all --s or ..s
19  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER C1 Discussion and Support Thread on: March 13, 2015, 02:50:16 AM
A difficulty with my C1#2.  I changed the parameters including password and can log in on the gui.  When I ssh in, I register the key in putty then try to log in but my password isn't accepted.  Neither the new password nor password root are accepted in ssh.

Bothersome because I always like to command halt via ssh before killing power.  I found wakeup was less troublesome in earlier miners.

ssh password admin on C1
20  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER C1 Discussion and Support Thread on: March 11, 2015, 04:22:50 PM
Anyone try the new C1 firmware on the Bitmain site yet?

Interesting that the date on it is almost 3 months old...
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