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I'm pretty sure intel's plan is to flood the market. Why else would they be developing hybrid cpu/fpgas (like APUs) or why would they bother to create the CCIX interconnect? They're definitely going to flood the market. The question is when. Xilinx will almost surely wait and only react hoping that Intel will also try to preserve high margins. The way I see it, Xilinx has one last chance to gain market share before Intel opens the flood gates. Get your options placed on XLNX while you still can  -- Looking forward to making money on their downfall. Plus, as you and I both know, Quartus is capable of placement / routing that is orders of magnitude better than anything Vivado could do automatically without floorplanning. I'm looking forward to my call with Intel next week! Hopefully I'll be able to get something rolling quickly and at a lower price point so we (crypto community as a whole) can avoid Xilinx all together. Edit: Oh ya, I find it hilarious that devs are changing their algos based on what we say in this thread. Which reminds me, I just developed this new code for cryptonight which makes use of a little hack that's able to bypass some steps to obtain a result quicker. I'm now mining monero at 100Kh/s per fpga. Can you give anymore details on what exactly you are going to try to get going with Intel? Are you talking Stratix10 HBM? Or some form of prototype? |
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Has anyone used a Nallatech 520 with Stratix 10?
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Sorry, I've been meaning to make a post related to this. We have been working with the OP to determine the optimal configuration and board for this application, as we have a few to choose from.
If you could include a table showing how much (LP)DRAM and SRAM (or low-latency alternative) can be hooked up to each FPGA, as well as the resulting cost, that would be very helpful. Thanks in advance! The best thing to hook up to the FPGA would be a hybrid memory cube +$500. This would get you the same level of memory performance as HBM memory. The other nice thing, the HMC has a silicon memory controller on it along with some basic logic functions that can speed up certain applications (xor, and, or). Can the hybrid memory cube be used with the VCU1525? |
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take the wind out so your current farm doesnt have to compete with as much?
No, so they don't overcharge the community. They're a "how much you got?" equal opportunity bilker. They're quite disingenuous when trying to turn a profit. They wanted like $12K/board a year ago for the XUPP3R, telling me it was impossible to get pricing down to $5K/board. A month later, I had negotiated pricing they said was impossible. Now they want to come in here and screw over the community?  also @senseless, did you buy fpga or just rent while the price was low.
I own 2x VCU118 used to proof designs and software. I leased as I was never able to raise the funds I wanted to build the FPGA mega mine. Is leasing still profitable with the raised price? |
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45% -- Would have been lower but I lost a LOT in Jan 2018 when shitsmartcash got hacked
Oh yes, that was me. I was controlling the market as much as I could. Most FPGA i ever had at a single time was around 800.
Well, I am jealous and I knew something was up when the prices kept climbing.  Don't be, I wasted all my profits flying all over the world trying to raise $5M to build out a huge FPGA mine. All the investors thought it was too good to be true and did not believe that I was mining on AWS. They kept saying "why isn't anyone else doing this".  -- Hey, at least I got to see india, china, hong kong, switzerland, germany, france  Lol.Thats awsome |
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Cash from doing what exactly? And from using what hardware. And what algo's? |
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@GPUHoarder
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I wouldn’t say an all out attack on GPUs by FPGAs. A good portion of my work has been on FPGA “accelerators” that augment GPUs. GPUs still have way more memory bandwidth than FPGAs after the cache-sized blocks. I have developed some interesting FPGA coprocessor that replace inefficient GPU calculations with FPGA work but still do the memory hard loops on GPU, for overall hashrate and power gains. I expect that hardware to be ready midsummer. Remains to be seen if it will still be viable.
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Can you share some more info/specifics on this? I find this interesting and something that has crossed my mind a few times
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And also what is it that we are looking at in that pic?
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For Ravencoin and Bitcore, the DDR4 is not used for hashing at all, but rather to store hundreds of different FPGA configuration bitstreams, which allows the entire FPGA to rapidly reprogram itself on every block based on the algorithm sequence for that block. Cryptonight7 and Equihash, on the other hand, would use the external memory for actual hashing. Whether CN7/Equihash gain from additional RAM depends on how those algorithms are ultimately implemented.
How much DDR4 would be needed per card for this Bitstream storing for RVN? bumped. if anyone has an idea |
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For Ravencoin and Bitcore, the DDR4 is not used for hashing at all, but rather to store hundreds of different FPGA configuration bitstreams, which allows the entire FPGA to rapidly reprogram itself on every block based on the algorithm sequence for that block. Cryptonight7 and Equihash, on the other hand, would use the external memory for actual hashing. Whether CN7/Equihash gain from additional RAM depends on how those algorithms are ultimately implemented.
How much DDR4 would be needed per card for this Bitstream storing for RVN? |
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With x16r and x17 requiring 2 cards would that be 300mh/s for both cards? Or 300 each equalling 600mh for two cards daisy chained together?
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Actually I already ordered some of these boards. I should get them by the end of May ready to test. So if you want to wait for a guinea pig here I am.
What was the lead time on your order? And where did you order from if you dont mind |
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Yes, you are right in this statement, but I do not want to write a long story. It seems that Ethash is only algorithm that is not suitable for FPGA.
Not so fast, there is a guy who claimed he can do Ethash at 421.41 MH (FPGA Nallatech 385A). I am still waiting for proof, so it may be possible. Or I may be waiting for a very long time. https://github.com/Maetti79/OpenCL_FPGAhttps://github.com/Maetti79/ethminerIve tried to contact Maetti79 about that number. The only response I received was theyre making huge progress and he would give more info soon. That was about a month or so ago. It seems people get too caught up in making money to help others. I commend whitefire990 for what he's working to accomplish |
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So will there not be anything in the future for the Altera/Intel variants? Anything for Stratix 10/V or Aria 10/V devices planned? @whitefire990 I can loan one for testing if need be. Just PM me
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I am pretty sure that just cloning the firmware and buying your own FGPA won't work.
Either way, FGPA aren't cheap either.
Agreed. My father is a hardware engineer..... He had the same to say about pricing... it's only economical if you buy 1000+ QTY of them at a time or more.... I am doing research now on the pheasability of creating an FPGA device and making a utility to translate the algo libraries from miner apps like ccminer to something the FPGA could use; this would make pretty much a universal miner as long as theres no massive memory requirements like some algos have.... MY first step is going to be making block diagrams and flowcharts for him to give me an idea of what FPGA and dev board I need to look into buying..... But, I am still waiting for those XXX photos of the inside of a baikal cube..... Any chance you decided on which FPGA board to purchase? |
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Any progress on the fpga design? Also which fpga chips are you considering using? I personally think you are the right track and fgpas for altcoins will be a big market soon . Ive been trying to find any info i could on fgpas to build my own for the past couple weeks. which is how i ran across this thread. Keep us updated
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