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1  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Notes on Bitcoin ETFs for the community on: August 09, 2018, 08:15:06 AM
In Addition, here’s what makes the VanEck/SolidX ETF different.

If you don’t know what differentiates the VanEck and SolidX ETF and why it gives it a massive advantage over other ETFs that have been thus far rejected, here are the main points for you to better distinguish between the same:

1. Custody: Fund is physically backed and will hold BTC (Private Keys)

2. Designed for institutions not retail: Minimum $200K investment. This gives the SEC more confidence in protecting retail investors.

3. Backed by CBOE: to be traded on BZX Equities Exchange. CBOE has already pushed through Futures and has a long standing history with the SEC.

4. Regulatory oversight: the CBOE is a trusted and regulated exchange in the eyes of the SEC

5. Index will be traded on a OTC (over the counter) desk by Voice not Electronically: this reduces risk of manipulation and increases regulatory transparency.

6. Insured: ETF is insured by a syndicate of A-rated insurers. Again, more assurance and protection for investors.

7. Both VanEck and SolidX have filed for ETFs independently: together, they bring to the table more experience and lessons learned than any other applicant.


Well, there you have it. Other ETFs have had some of these components but nothing has come close to be as robust and comprehensive as this ETF.
The Delay is a sign of confidence, as. It demonstrates the SEC’s interest in continuing to do proper due diligence versus outright rejecting it.

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2  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Notes on Bitcoin ETFs for the community on: August 08, 2018, 08:46:12 AM
What if they will not approve cryptocurrency? What will happen next to bitcoin and other crypto? Will it continue the operation even if the government sectors does not want this thing to approve? How can we  push through on this one. I know that it is not time yet to speculate things but we need some clear ways or plan to pursue if things will not go as plan.

Mate, it will get approved. Matter of time. SEC has already announced that Bitcoin and Ethereum are not securities... Don't worry man.

By the way, the What's on crypto team and their channel are awesome. Very need thing for a crypto gentleman https://t.me/whatsoncrypto
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The Multi-Billion Dollar ICO Market in 2018 Captured in One Graph on: August 08, 2018, 08:42:15 AM
Very Nice list. I am also in the channels https://t.me/whatsoncrypto and https://t.me/howmuch_net.

It is a must to support the team for their hard work and enthusiast in crypto.
4  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Cryptocurrency ‘The Mother of all Bubbles’? This Visualization Perspective on: August 02, 2018, 10:51:24 AM
To be able to land on the spot of 'MOAB' I think it should surpass even the market capitalization of gold, which obviously didn't and not even half of it was filled by bitcoin. This isn't surprising, considering that only a handful of institutional investors' eyes are laid on bitcoin as of late. I don't see how bitcoin can be considered a lucrative bubble compared to the ones on the list, or maybe people just want to sensationalize it and make it look 'bad' from the eyes of the public. Either way, it's far from being the mother of all bubbles; it had its fair share of magnificent runs but that's pretty much it, a rising asset class with a recognition from the worlds' financial magnates and leaders.

You are most probably, at least, 90% close when you mentioned, quote, "or maybe people just want to sensationalize it and make it look 'bad' from the eyes of the public.". This shit is going on around.

But hey, u know what, bitcoin alone itself was kicked from front, back, left and right. Still stands. As per me, this infographic is telling us that, "hey you idiots, crypto is not in bubble and stop calling it so". Look at the gold man. We are far far faaaaaaaaar away from it. How many percents? 26340.67%? This much to reach Gold. And yet, the gold market cap began rising after features where most and majority money entered. The creator of this infographic also visualized Gold and Crypto measure as per ETF. Check it out too. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4709761.0;all

Anyway, loooong way to go, but let's not call crypto bubble yet.
5  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Visualizing the Bitcoin ETF from Gold ETF history on: August 02, 2018, 08:36:09 AM
I have always perceived the entrance of big money as dangerous in terms of the predictability of the market. Because their entry requires very complex manipulations and combinations of deception, which is fraught with a sudden decline in the course or growth when no one expects it. Until that moment, until it happened, I think you can buy with less risk. Once this happens , you will need to have more knowledge and experience to trade this instrument, or remain a long-term Bitcoin holder


Totally agree with you. It makes sense. But that's the reason they open such ETF and other shits just to manipulate before institutional money gets in.
6  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Visualizing the Bitcoin ETF from Gold ETF history on: July 24, 2018, 05:00:37 AM
You "may" be right. You "may" be wrong. The creator is definitely expecting it and I hope it will be.

I think the infographic does not care about your perfect calculation. TA was never correct in bitcoin. All Technical Analysis (Including your perfect math) failed to foretell. One thing I will tell u is that:

EFT is not even announced nor it can be approved or not nobody knows. Do you? But the BTC price is pumping. The infographic is not showing from what bitcoin price the ETF will start. It could be $9k or 14k. Gold started from $10.8k  in years. Bitcoin reached that ATH is split of months. As per this infographic, the ETF should start from $13.7k. Look and pay close attention to the ETF line where the creator is captioning attention to. He is f## too cool to be that optimistic.

Anyway, great job to the creator and his passion for Crypto. I will congratulate you later if we reach $62+k. If not, no worries, we will cross it anyhow.

Keep it up What's on Crypto!

the creator was doing a comparison.. he even pointed out numbers and points of interest.. he used those points to then point to some prediction point..

if you are to say that the info graphic should just have a random squiggle and then have some random number of no bases at all.. guess what.. its then not a "infographic"

so i was just pointing out the point the infographic was trying to make was not making a point. because it missed the point by not using the points.

whats the point in making a point using points if its then pointed out that those points dont infact reach the same point.. do you see my point.

emphasis on point



Mate, if you want to collaborate, why don't you contact the creator and work with him to improve his work and teach him a lesson if you think there are a bunch of things needs to be done or corrected. Surely he would appreciate your work too. Calling someone's work "stupid" who is on the stage of improving is simply that you are stupid. Grasping what point I am pointing here? Pointless pointing your point of thing words here. Looks like you are BCH fan. Get out of here if so. (sorry if rude)
7  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Visualizing the Bitcoin ETF from Gold ETF history on: July 24, 2018, 04:53:47 AM
This doesn't make much sense if  dates aren't included. Or am I the only one not seeing dates?
 
I wanted to see if Gold got the ETF before or after it got Futures. I guess that will determine how well Bitcoin would do.

This infographic is all about showing the pattern of Gold Chart and Bitcoin Chart - visualizing the rest bitcoin chart from Gold. In other words, to show you what "might" happen. It would be stupid for a creator if he includes dates. The creator is just showing the possibility of bitcoin behaving similarly to gold as both pattern are similarly moving. if you got inspired of something from his work and If you want more, do your own research.
8  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Visualizing the Bitcoin ETF from Gold ETF history on: July 23, 2018, 04:13:15 PM
infographic is not thought out well

firstly. golds preETF ATH was $24k  ATL 10k    post ETF ATH $60k  (rounded)
pre-ATH to post-ATH = 225%
ATL to post-ATH =600%

so lets take bitcoins $20k ATH X225% =$45k next ATH... not $62k
so lets use bitcoins $7500.. x 600% = $45k... not 62k


so just based on numbers.. the estimates should be for  bitcoin ~$45k not $62k.. math is simple

then what needs to be taken into account is that gold had a gold rush of "gold for cash" retailers/services.. which pushed prices. unless bitcoin is going to have loads of ATM's  of taking in bitcoin to then publish an increase in 'spot' price..  you wont see the same inpact.
gold has a more complicated multilayer mechanism of what impacts golds prices.. but unless bitcoin had th same access and more aggressive middlemen control of the spread to push the price up.. we wont see the same pattern

the info graphic did not convey any understanding on the aspects of what caused golds surge post 2003
and yet the info graphic STUPIDLY over hyped the impact of an ETF on bitcoin to somthing far more than ETF affect on gold

You "may" be right. You "may" be wrong. The creator is definitely expecting it and I hope it will be.

I think the infographic does not care about your perfect calculation. TA was never correct in bitcoin. All Technical Analysis (Including your perfect math) failed to foretell. One thing I will tell u is that:

EFT is not even announced nor it can be approved or not nobody knows. Do you? But the BTC price is pumping. The infographic is not showing from what bitcoin price the ETF will start. It could be $9k or 14k. Gold started from $10.8k  in years. Bitcoin reached that ATH is split of months. As per this infographic, the ETF should start from $13.7k. Look and pay close attention to the ETF line where the creator is captioning attention to. He is f## too cool to be that optimistic.

Anyway, great job to the creator and his passion for Crypto. I will congratulate you later if we reach $62+k. If not, no worries, we will cross it anyhow.

Keep it up What's on Crypto!
9  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Visualizing the Bitcoin ETF from Gold ETF history on: July 23, 2018, 09:54:26 AM
Visualizing the Bitcoin ETF from Gold ETF history.

The infographic compares GOLD ETF with Bitcoin ETF (if approved) and how ETF could impact Bitcoin. It is clear to see that there should be some pump if ETF is approved as looking at the GOLD chart history, after ETF it just skyrocketed.

Also, would appreciate if you support us and retweet this infographic from twitter

https://twitter.com/wo_crypto/status/1020186956637057024

Credit: https://t.me/whatsoncrypto


Gold and bitcoin are not the same nor similar. Gold is a physical mineral while bitcoin is digital, this means that the digital gold being traded is backed up by the physical gold. Bitcoin is not the same hence we cannot be certain that during the approval of bitcoin etf, bitcoin will really increase in value. But I guess we dont need to worry since bitcoin is already starting to move up and it will eventually hit 10k dollars by the end of July, 2018.


It is not about Gold or Crypto to be the same. This chart states the behaviour of the Market which is related to Human emotion. In this case ETF. The creator of this infographic is trying to say that, both, gold and bitcoin behaved nearly similar. Atho time difference, but still, look at the 1st bubble (1st ATH), for gold it took years. For bitcoin it took just months. So what I understand is that, ETF could really impact the chart and drive the prices to the clouds and above if some shadow trading is not done behind. Nice one by the way! Love it.
10  Other / Off-topic / The best crypto app ever in the world on: April 30, 2018, 06:29:30 AM
Hey, crypto fans. Wanted to ask your opinion on the following. Please be helpful to share

I was really tired of going through so many websites just to read the crypto news. But thought of creating a hub where all news appears/comes in 1 place to make it easier access for us. I have already created a telegram channel and website but am thinking even to go further and create a mobile app (which works online and offline). I know this would cost me a lot of money and probably requires a lot of time to make it available, but this is not what I am asking. I am asking would this be helpful to you and other crypto fans?

I have received so many private messages people saying the telegram channel is doing a great job by bringing all in one place. People are excited and the channel is growing faster than I though altho it was launched recently and not so many people are still aware of it. I am constantly growing the members and looking for more talented people to join the team and do something that is good for crypto fans/community.

I would appreciate if you could comment and collaborate on how to improve it and what important steps to take to make it a "HUB" for me, you and other people who wish such project to be out.

Looking forward to your honest and positive feedback. Thank you.

Channel: http://t.me/whatsoncrypto
11  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Blockchain just failed? Difficulty just dropped way too much... on: April 11, 2018, 11:29:10 AM
It's not a fud/ I have been looking for the answer almost an hour and had to post quickly and ask for an advices
12  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Blockchain just failed? Difficulty just dropped way too much... on: April 11, 2018, 10:53:14 AM
What are you talking about? This is happening now

See it yourself and comment back that your eyes saw what twitter is saying
https://blockchain.info/vi/charts/hash-rate
13  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Blockchain just failed? Difficulty just dropped way too much... on: April 11, 2018, 10:33:51 AM
Difficulty dropped way too much just now and all pools show 0 PTH. 
What's on Crypto Twitter and telegram channel Reports https://twitter.com/whatsoncrypto/status/984014170772443138
https://t.me/whatsoncrypto
14  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Bitcoin Twitter account @bitcoin has been suspended!!!!!!!!! on: April 08, 2018, 09:38:35 AM
Finally, Rodger is taking a good rest and we are not being annoyed. Thanks to What's on Crypto for sharing this amazing news for Bitcoin fans


Twitter has suspended @Bitcoin account for violating its rules (perhaps: trademark abuse, impersonation, etc.) reports https://t.me/whatsoncrypto

15  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Coinbase exchange plans to receive a brokerage license... on: April 08, 2018, 05:59:40 AM
The American cryptocurrency exchange Coinbase is negotiating with The United States Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) to register as a licensed brokerage company, reports The Wall Street Journal. This license will allow Coinbase to trade cryptocurrencies defined in the US as security tokens. Many issuers of cryptocurrency are against this approach, as it entails complex bureaucratic procedures in trading transactions.

GDAX exchange, the brand name of the Coinbase platform, offers the following trading pairs: Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash, Litecoin and Ethereum against the Dollar, Euro and British Pound, and is ranked 9th in the daily trading volume ($ 149,110,637). At the same time, the exchange popularity among non-specialists shows that its decisions will set trends for other market participants.

Recently, Coinbase announced that it plans to add ERC20 tokens to its listing. In this case, an official permit for security tokens trading will guarantee a quiet work. At the same time, the SEC itself has not yet determined which digital tokens should be considered the security one... https://t.me/whatsoncrypto
16  Economy / Economics / Re: What will happen to bitcoin? on: April 07, 2018, 05:16:03 AM
Nothings. It is on its natural trend. I know many of u are being impressed with December Rate but believe me, that was the cause of Bitcoin Futures.

What about now? It has been manipulated and there are a bunch of other reason why it is not moving but still following its Natural trends as in 2015, 2016, 2017...

Just keep up following news to stay alert.

I can suggest this channel to follow all news in 1 place. Channel is new and I guess there is a knowledgeable person behind this channel.. https://t.me/whatsoncrypto
17  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Planning to sell all my btc as its too low now :( on: April 07, 2018, 04:56:40 AM
Ohh boy. Ohh boy.

If you really need a quick cash, yes go ahead and sell it. BUT, BUT my suggestion to not do it and HODL it.

LET Q1 to over and in half Q2 if you still see the same trend, then go ahead. I personally think all entertainment will begin at Q3 so hodl it.

Not only BTC but all crypto is affected, and believe, there are reasons behind this DIP and it is a huge manipulation going on just to make "Weak Ones" to sell off in this dip so whales get more of btc possible.

My advice, just hodl and keep your eye on NEWS. I can suggest you a telegram group where all NEWS from different quality sources come together so definitely join.

https://t.me/whatsoncrypto
18  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why is everyone just HODLing? on: April 07, 2018, 04:46:11 AM
This kind of dips and downtrends should happen as this is part of bitcoin nature. If you look at the chart history from 2013 onwards, you will always see that Q1 of the year is the worst. Q2 is OK and Q3 is better. Bitcoin is always actively smart when it comes to Q4.

In this case, JUST HOLD means that if u have some coins, just hold it for some time and avoid selling it in this downtrend (bearish market). If work and getting a salary, it is better to use 3% of ur salary and buy and hold it for some time. Follow the news obviously and put a little trust in this project. Check out the news channel by the way and stay updated of the latest news and trends https://t.me/whatsoncrypto
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Monero Just Hard Forked — and It Resulted in Four New Projects ???? on: April 07, 2018, 04:39:46 AM
One hard fork later, there are four new Monero projects.

Monero hard forked to version 12 of its protocol yesterday. But not everyone is on board. Following the example once set by Ethereum Classic, some users are continuing on the pre-hard fork Monero blockchain… though in this case not as a single project. Now there is  Monero Classic, Monero 0 (XMZ), Monero Original (XMO) and a second project by the name Monero Classic (XMC) (which in this article we will refer to as Monero-Classic); these are all continuing on version 11 of the Monero protocol. Of course, this means they are all still compatible on a single network, using the same asset (coin) — just with different names.

https://t.me/whatsoncrypto
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: TELEGRAM CRYPTO DIRECTORY: Over 250 Groups & Channels on: April 06, 2018, 07:54:23 AM
Hi There. Just joined your channel of directories.

I am managing 2 telegram

1. Hashrate Transfer group - https://t.me/joinchat/HhQ7KlLNhNnHQslP0gN32w
Brief: As an admin in Hashflare, we help people easily and safely buy and sell hashrates

2. What's on Crypto New - https://t.me/whatsoncrypto
Brief: There are many quality sources but it is just headache to go to each one by one just to read. A group of experienced people created a channel where all news from different sources are posted in one place and made it easy to catch up.

Would you please add them to your directory

Thanks
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