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The bqc have been returned, thanks
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yesterday, vircurex suspended BQC trading and then changed their minds and turned it back on. When they stopped it, I sent my 3000 BQC to another trading site, and when they turned it back on, I sent my BQC back to vircurex. my BQC never arrived back in my account. After multiple emails to vircurex's customer support, I have still not gotten a response back, yet when I complained about them halting BQC trading, they responded back within a few hours.
The bottom line: Do not trust vircurex with your cryptocoins!!!
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with all this complaining, pool luck is down to 66%... so, everybody just shut up, mine, and think happy thoughts  |
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Slush, I think there was a problem calculating block rewards for block 237396. I only got a reward of 0.00003098 and it should have been in the range of 0.004 or greater.. Here are my rewards and shares for the last 4 blocks:
# Block found at Duration Total shares Your shares Your BTC reward Block # Block value Validity
18153 2013-05-22 19:33:54 2:16:21 18220901 1570 0.00501036 237404 25.42343650 100 confirmations left
18152 2013-05-22 17:17:33 3:04:10 24434822 4918 0.00003098 237396 25.10420001 92 confirmations left
18151 2013-05-22 14:13:23 0:16:44 2234190 530 0.00618735 237373 25.20905000 69 confirmations left
18150 2013-05-22 13:56:39 1:26:03 11420206 1855 0.00462750 237371 25.29270000 67 confirmations left
my own calculations based on my shares vs total shares shows the reward should have been much greater for that block. Not sure what happened, can you take a look when you have a chance?
Well your shares are looking off. It seems like you had a problem at the end of a block 18152 and start of a block 18153. For 18152 you should have about 6360 shares and for 18153 you should have 4770. So it is clear what happened. You stop mining or you had connection problems. You do know how scoring system works right? If not look back it is explained(last time) from page 429 on. If you have additional questions let me know. EDIT: End of page 429 thanks for the info, I believe I did have a loss of connection for a brief period during that time, so that makes sense I guess. |
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Slush, I think there was a problem calculating block rewards for block 237396. I only got a reward of 0.00003098 and it should have been in the range of 0.004 or greater.. Here are my rewards and shares for the last 4 blocks:
# Block found at Duration Total shares Your shares Your BTC reward Block # Block value Validity
18153 2013-05-22 19:33:54 2:16:21 18220901 1570 0.00501036 237404 25.42343650 100 confirmations left
18152 2013-05-22 17:17:33 3:04:10 24434822 4918 0.00003098 237396 25.10420001 92 confirmations left
18151 2013-05-22 14:13:23 0:16:44 2234190 530 0.00618735 237373 25.20905000 69 confirmations left
18150 2013-05-22 13:56:39 1:26:03 11420206 1855 0.00462750 237371 25.29270000 67 confirmations left
my own calculations based on my shares vs total shares shows the reward should have been much greater for that block. Not sure what happened, can you take a look when you have a chance?
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Also - If possible, you should let people use the software as a registered version for now, and rather charge for it in a future version, or give people 1-2-3 months free full versions. -If you need reg. version to actually trade with it that is.
The unregistered limit should nevertheless be raised to something like 1-3 hrs instead of 10 mins.
I am a very small-time trader with only 2-3 BTC, but might pay .1 BTC if I found that I wanna use it for some time forward. But paying up-front for something without a name in the community is really not gonna happen. Actually I think you would make more if it was "donate-ware" but I might be wrong on that one.
I'll look into loosening up the demo restrictions and increasing the demo version timeout in the near future. The demo does allow you to place bids, but they're limited to .1 BTC or less each. Giving people a fully functional demo version for a week or two after initially downloading it could probably be implemented without too much trouble and is something I will consider. |
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Can you host the project on github/codeplex for us to view and or audit?
sorry, but i'm only releasing this to the public because I'm tight on money at the moment. Makng it open source would defeat the purpose by making the registration a moot point. |
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My .Net version is v4.0.30319
I fired it up again now, and offc there are no error-reports from .net.
I only get an error in the Bitcoin Trader itself "error in processTicker:Input string was not in a correct format"
BTW: You should make space for seperate BUY/SELL order interfaces, I imagine that it might be very easy to make a sell instead of buy or vica versa. And possibly make their buttons seperate colors so that it's easy to tell which is which.
At the batch order, you could fill out the form, and then have "buy batch" and "sell batch" buttons underneath.
Those are all very good suggestions and I will work on making those changes, along with fixing the processTicker error  |
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I got some .net errors
Make sure you have .NET 4.0 installed. If that doesn't work, can you post the error you are getting on here? |
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This will be all useless/irrelevant once BTC/USD is in MT4.
I'm not aware of any official announcements from MtGox or any of the other exchanges that they are planning to support MetaTrader 4. When is this supposed to happen, and on which exchanges? I've actually been hoping for MT4 support myself for quite some time lol. |
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How do we know your software will not empty the account funds at Mtgox ? Is it possible to restrict its privileges regarding the API ?
The easiest way to restrict privileges is to turn off withdraws on your mtgox API key if you are concerned about this. If you still want to register and are concerned about temporarily enabling withdraws to send the registration fee, you can send all but 0.1 BTC to a bitcoin wallet temporarily, and then register, and then send your funds back to your mtgox account after the registration completes to ensure that extra funds cannot be sent. Other than that, I can only offer you my personal assurance that this software will not "empty your mtgox account" as you put it. |
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There is now a public version available for download at http://bitcointrader.tempors.com if anyone is interested in trying it out. The market chart still needs a bit of work, but will be updated soon in a future version. Updates will automatically download at application startup from the web server. It defaults to demo mode, but registration does work if you wish to unlock full functionality. You will need to add an API key from your mtgox account in order to be able to trade, view your balance, or view account history (copy and paste the API key and Security key into the ApiKey and SecKey fields in the application). If you wish to register, you will need to give this API key withdrawl rights in order to send the 0.1 BTC registration fee. Once the fee is sent, you can disable withdrawl rights on the API key if you are worried about account security. Registration will associate full functionality with your mtgox account, so you can re-use the activation key it emails you on multiple PC's if you want to, but if you have more than one mtgox account, you will have to register the application on each account. The "Connect" button will connect to socket.io and start up streaming of live public market data, which doesn't require you to enter an API key or security key. The 'Login' button will connect to account-specific data and allow you to view your balance and trade if a valid API key and security key is entered. |
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There is now a public version available for download at http://bitcointrader.tempors.com if anyone is interested in trying it out. The market chart still needs a bit of work, but will be updated soon in a future version. Updates will automatically download at application startup from the web server. It defaults to demo mode, but registration does work if you wish to unlock full functionality. You will need to add an API key from your mtgox account in order to be able to trade, view your balance, or view account history (copy and paste the API key and Security key into the ApiKey and SecKey fields in the application). If you wish to register, you will need to give this API key withdrawl rights in order to send the 0.1 BTC registration fee. Once the fee is sent, you can disable withdrawl rights on the API key if you are worried about account security. Registration will associate full functionality with your mtgox account, so you can re-use the activation key it emails you on multiple PC's if you want to, but if you have more than one mtgox account, you will have to register the application on each account. The "Connect" button will connect to socket.io and start up streaming of live public market data, which doesn't require you to enter an API key or security key. The 'Login' button will connect to account-specific data and allow you to view your balance and trade if a valid API key and security key is entered. |
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For example, let's say you want to open a long position for 100 bitcoins. That means you want to buy 100 bitcoins hoping to the price will go up. The system will borrow for you 100 * the bitcoin price US dollars (let's say 1300 USD) from lenders, at the best rates available.
You are going to leverage bitcoins by a factor of 100? That is just plain impractical considering how much the market can move in a day. Even with forex, leveraging by 50 is risky and that only moves by a few percent a day at most. Bitcoins can change value by 50-100% in a few minutes, resulting in gains or losses of up to 10000%? Who is providing the leveraged funds? What happens if you can't hit a stop loss because the exchanges have a trading lag? |
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I'm wondering if there's any interest in a windows based (.NET) trading client for MtGox. I've developed one for my own trading purposes, and have been considering releasing it to the general public if there is sufficient interest. I would release a demo version that can be registered/upgraded for .1 BTC to full functionality. Registration associates the application with your mtgox account using an encrypted hash of certain undisclosed static account information, so it can be used across multiple PC's by a single user, but activation keys cannot be shared between users.
Some of the features which are not supported by the mtgox webpage include:
- Placing a group of bids across a spread of prices automatically
- one click "cancel all bids"
- multi-select several bids and cancel selected with one click
- built-in live market chart with depth graphs (in both total USD to price and total BTC to price)
- live list of trades as they happen
- your own socket.io connection to mtgox for streaming market data
- uses HTTP api to place bids
- trading will still work during most mtgox DDos's that may make trading via their web page impossible or annoyingly slow
Some planned future enhancements include:
- Basic automated trading functionality (trickle buy/sell, automatic placement of bids based on distance from moving average, execute bid X when bid Y is filled, etc)
- Automatic stop loss bids if price exceeds a certain level
- Market chart enhancements
- Historic market data availability
I'm posting this to get a feel for whether or not it's worth my time and effort to release and support the application or not.
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I'd love a free copy as a beta tester, if you are interested. I have a BSc in Computer Science. Shoot me a PM! I will send a download link as soon as I have a release ready version put together, probably within a day or two. |
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above and beyond what the mtgox web site offers, it supports placing a "batch" of small trades across a spread of prices, a "cancel all trades" button (which is really handy during an unexpected market shift which conflicts with your trades), a built-in market chart and list of live trades, and a much faster UI than the mtgox web page offers (no waiting for pages to load, list of trades to load, etc).
It uses the HTTP api to place trades and the socket.io api for market data, making it use-able even during most DDos attacks when the mtgox web page is down or so slow that it's un-useable.
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mega lurker...member for nearly 2 years and still classified as a newbie bahaha
ditto lol me too... I've been working on a windows-based trading client for mtgox that I'm thinking of releasing to the public. If anyone is interested in beta testing, you can message me on here. |
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So, i've been mining for a couple years now and just had a thought. Currently tx fees go to miners as an extra sort of bonus for each block mined.
When difficulty reaches 0, and the blockchain has all 21 million blocks, who will the tx fees go to?
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