I don't understand why someone would buy the new AMHash1 fund on HavelockInvestments.com when the AM1 share hasn't had an update since May 2014. Not a single communication from the company at all. Sure, we can now see what they were up to, but you'd think they'd have time to send out some kind of update. I keep getting pings with 10 BTC inserted into the AsicMiner address on the blockchain, but see no dividends or explanations of any kind.

What about Ukyo and BitFunder? No SEC news about that.

Yes. I've taken out what's left (lucky you, buying my shares at an all time record low of 0.24), and thus my failure is complete. It wasn't enough to learn some lessons with Neo & Bee, Ukyo (12 BTC lost to him and I've been told from a reliable source that Ukyo had indeed gone fractional reserve), CaVirtex (110 BTC invested and all I have to show for it is a PDF with a small fraction of 1% of the company and no idea what the shareholder agreement really is), Havelock Mining Fund last year, AsicMiner (I know I can wait even more and it could go up, but this was my cut off point -- you can reap the rewards, it is OK with me, no risk -- no reward), 47 BTC sent to Butterfly Labs for a day 1 Monarch pre-order that still hasn't shipped and might POSSIBLY make me back 2 BTC if I am lucky, etc.

EDIT: In all, I have contributed (lost) 450 BTC on Havelock and about 65 BTC with ButterflyLabs, with nothing to show for it except if Danny suddenly comes back and my Neobee shares get revived, Ukyo becomes rich AND decides to give all his money away to WeExchange victims, my Monarch arrives someday and works, or CaVirtex gets bought out for tens of millions at least. Am I sore though? No. I can laugh it off, because easy come, easy go, the relatively little BTC I kept has grown 10X in value so I am just back to square one.

Hold. Gen3 is REAL and you can buy it at places like Minersource.net (look for the R-BOX at $80 each, it uses the chip) right now. Look at the video Rockminer posted on Twitter, or in the Rockminer thread. They are actually tempting, so this is good news.

Larger companies are investing and Friedcat is in the middle of it all with AM.

They are people like you and I. They have bitcoins that they invest in shares. They have needs in real life. Some of their investments they can keep for long periods so that they can reap the rewards. Some, they can't. The liquidity on Havelock is not exactly great. Combined with the fact that dividends have ceased, and communications are minimal, and that things don't seem to be moving, some people cannot/will not wait, so more shares are being sold than bought, thus driving the price down. Look at the chart of every stock on Havelock. All of them go down in time. AM is no exception. Some people are coming to the conclusion that there is no money to be made there in the long term.

Personally, I think it will go back up as soon as some dividends start to come in and also when Friedcat posts something so people can be more assured.

No, they aren't. We still have the shares, they appear in our list of owned shares with the "P" (private) symbol, and we can transfer them to other people's accounts.

Thanks.

What the hell are BE200 chips?

I came THIS close to doxxing Danny just now but I couldn't bring myself to do it.

I'll wait a bit more.

Says a direct competitor, a person that works with MPEX.

The only smear is the one on your underwear that's smelling up the place.

How and/or where have you obtained this information and why should we believe you?

Could someone explain why it is preferable to seed a torrent of the blockchain rather than just run a bitcoin full node? I run a full node and it sends between 500GB to 1TB a month of data to at least 70-95 connected clients. Yes, I opened port 8333 on the firewall/router.

Am I doing it wrong?

I'm still here, dimwit, and could you please stop bumping the damn thread with nothing new to add? KTHXBYE

There was a news story about two people who allegedly gave NEO 20000 Euro and 15000 Euro in cash and filed a police complaint that they never received the bitcoins.

Now that doesn't make any sense. Since when do you walk into a building with 15000+ Euro in cash, hand it over to people, and walk out the building with NOTHING TO SHOW FOR IT. Not even a multi-sig private key or anything? Perhaps the newspaper reporter misunderstood and those two people were INVESTORS and handed over money for shares.

Truly sounds like bullshit to me.

I speak of Mt.Gox! Karpeles is still there, with everyone, working on it. What planet are you living on? I'm serious, but you are living in a universe where Karpeles has disappeared, the Gox document showing their desire to rebrand and rebuild doesn't exist, and, well, I don't know where to start. I can understand you don't believe they got their hands on 200,000 BTC that they "lost", but that doesn't even have to be true for my statement to be true.

They're all there working on it. Filed for protection, and working to rebuild their business, and get back people's money. What's your problem?

After speaking to someone in the know but who wouldn't divulge much, I am now convinced that Ukyo is being investigated along with others by the U.S. SEC and was forced to withhold people's funds and not talk about it until the investigation is complete. I further speculate that it is the same investigation into Satoshi Dice that is coming to light.

P.s. If you don't fully understand english and can't see the words "I am now convinced" and "further speculate", don't reply saying "this is bullshit" and look like a moron. I never said it is true, I am only sharing my current belief.

Please post the email you sent, complete with the headers, or the tweets. I don't believe you. Furthermore, who are the other numerous victims?

Also, the address you gave has transactions going through it that are worth hundreds of thousands of $US dollars. It isn't even wiped clean.

I call bullshit.

OMG OMG OMG 99 millibits deposited to the Asicminer address.

Ordering the high-end coffee today.

New Video of George Papageorgious, CEO of Neo & Bee, on ANT1 TV

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXhMzJLl02A

Does anybody that understands greek well know what they are talking about? I asked someone to help and they concluded something about 50,000 businesses at the end.