Curious to hear everyone's Hashrate poolside and daily rewards at this point. I'll start.

D9 (1st batch)
FW: 20180602.swu
UI: 2.3Th/s
Pool: Coinmine.pl
24hr Poolside Hash Rate: 2.27Th/s
Daily Rewards: 0.14 DCR

I'm still getting the random reboots, been online 11hrs, and crazy reading on fan speed of 255% on Performance mode.

Is anyone getting the advertised 2.4Th/s?

Are there plans for another D9 update in the near future? I tested the previous firmware running on Balanced, Factory, and Performance and did not see any noticeable improvements from 2.3Ths.

It's all good.

I was just giving you my perspective along with others. Believe it or not, most of us have played out different scenarios and it still in a loss. The point is that the market is already saturated and only getting worse, thinking you're going to recoup your initial investment based off whattomine profitability calculations with today's numbers as a future forecast is highly inaccurate for this or any other miner. i.e. First batch of D9 showed an ROI of 1.5 months making $150/day, most thought it would take probably 3 months. After recouping not even half, the remaining balance shows it's going to now take another 245 days to break even but that's isn't accurate since the more miners come online the further rewards diminish pushing your ROI out even further, if ever.

Of course, everything has variables. The safer bet is to invest in coins during this dip and sell in the green. Like the old adage says, live and learn. Load up on as many D9 miners as your heart desires, I wouldn't advise it but that's ultimately your choice.

"You should sell it wayyy before it becomes a door stopper, duh" <--- This guy, smdh! Yeah... we're all just idiots trying to help you. You asked a question and seem to not like the answer. We are telling you the market is already saturated with DCR miners, more being added every day and other companies will be adding to it very soon. Your logic consists of alot of variables that sound good in theory however doesn't add up in reality but hey it's your money, do what you want and you'll find out soon enough on your own but don't say you weren't warned. Your head is in the clouds - good luck with that.

You won't. Making X amount a day to break even in a couple of months isn't an accurate measure to recoup your investment. If you're looking at whattomine or whatever, what you are seeing is a snapshot of rewards at the current point in time. *Assuming no other miners come online and the difficulty stays the same - that's not gonna happen so if that's what anyone is assuming, they'll be sadly mistaken.  

When manufactures flood the market such as Inno and continue to sell an infinite supply ASICS, the hashrate goes way up and rewards diminish rather quickly. When profits diminish, they adjust the price of the ASICs so people think they're getting a good deal with a discounted price. But guess what happens when all those "discounted" ASICs come online, that $24 a day will quickly be reduced to $15, $10, $5, $2.

It's all a cat/mouse game and you're the measly mouse they're the Lion. They don't give a fuck about customers making their money back, evident with how quickly new batches are made available for purchase. Read the thread from the beginning when people where happy and jolly to now EVERYONE is pissed. There's a reason why Inno no longer responds or contributes to this thread. They fucked us and they know it.

You're better off buying actual coins than mining.

Very true. What's the incentive to mine these days when we can't even ROI? I regret how much money I dumped into what now seems to be an expensive "hobby".

Crazy how quickly rewards went to shit here. Inno needs to come out with another firmware to make ROI possible or pump the hell out of DCR.

What's up wolf. Where did you see that? Hopefully, it's better hash rate without much-added power consumption.

What pool are you mining at and what's your daily reward for 1 machine? I'm on coinmine getting 0.304 at 2.37Ths from the last fw update.

Anyone getting better rewards elsewhere?

Has Inno support helped you at all? Should still be under warranty, right? but sucks if they want you to send the machine back cus of the time lost which will probably be the case.

So disappointed with Innosilicon’s release strategy because they royally screwed their customers by flooding the market. Even the first batch customers will have a difficult time reaching ROI before seeing  any profits. So sad for paying so much for a “premium” miner that quickly went to shit.

People who think Inno’s buy 1 get 1 free is a good deal is sadly mistaken or will find out soon enough with rewards diminishing so much. The ONLY saving grace right now is if DCR price skyrockets or spikes high enough to sell, buy low, accumulate more, rinse and repeat. 

At least Halong had it right with their release schedule and waiting. Hopefully, you’ve made your money back for the B29. Halong seems to be in shambles now, what’s going on with them now? Weird. Maybe they were a shell company. Idk.

You have better experience with Bitmain than me. They flood the market as well. I will be lucky if I ever ROI on price I paid for my S9’s and L3+s. Unfortunately, it seems all Mining Manufactures really only care about profits from overselling machines and profits they made secretly mining before selling their soon to be obsolete machines to sucker customers for even more profits. Customers can paperchase in hopes and dispair, they don’t care. But hey suckers here’s some coupons, buy more machines. No thanks!

Mining doesnt seem profitable anymore.

Is f2pool earning 0.41 dcr in 24hrs right now? What’s your 24hr hash rate? That’s better than what I’m getting on Coinmine at 0.314 dcr  at 2.3THS in 24hrs.

Pretty sure f2pool (3%), coinmine (1%) and Luxor (3%) are all different pools that mine DCR. Unless Luxor changed, I think they charge 3% for dcr and 1% for sia.

Let us know your results with Luxor. I think they were having issues with their East US server, just an FYI.

I noticed my D9 slowed down to around 2.0Ths poolside about a week after the firmware update. A reboot seemed to fix the problem and it's back at 2.3Ths on Coinmine.

Did you notice if that board is heating up higher than the others? 

CAUTION!!! Unless you are HODLing coins for future profit which may or may not happen or enjoy a really expensive hobby with quickly diminishing rewards. I'd HIGHLY advise proceeding with caution if you're considering investing in these miners, or any miners for that matter.

I bought a D9 on the first wave from Innosilicon and was a strong supporter. Unfortunately, Inno flooded the market - driving rewards to down so quickly, even with the 1 one get 1 free promotion achieving ROI or turning a profit is so far down the road. And it's only going to get worse with the superior iBelink miner available now at similar pricing and Obelisk DCR miner becoming available soon.

Stats on 4/30:

Difficulty: 303,586,666
Nethash: 4.44 Ph/s
Daily Rewards: 1.77 DCR

Stats as of today:

Difficulty: 1,546,491,224
Nethash: 25.95 Ph/s
Daily Rewards: 0.35 DCR

Thank you, Inno!

Thanks for sharing your findings sweeper! Where did you get your wattage readings from? Trying to determine how accurate they are. TIA

Interesting read. As I mentioned earlier in this thread, one must assume manufacturers are also running these miners behind the scenes. David's blog kinda of confirms my suspension but make no mistake, Obelisk will be doing the same thing. Why the heck would any manufacturer sell their "money printing" machines if they can keep the profits all to themselves? It's another avenue to generate revenue to build more machines, for their self.

One of the things that caught my attention is David mentions at the time of his writing (5/13) is that Obelisk will be shipping their first miners in about 8 weeks, putting their launch closer to July instead of June as many expected if that's true. The biggest concern for all miners is the market being FLOODED resulting in longer ROI, if ever achieved. We should all be aware that mining calculators are current state and not a good gauge of profitability months or even weeks down the road. Many of us have learned the hard way, myself included.

The D9 is no exception. I've seen the profitability drop from $200/day when I ordered/waiting on batch 1 from Innosilicon to current state of $89/day, granted the market is down everywhere today but it's not the first time I noticed the $80 range. That's assuming all batch 2 orders are online now. Innosilicon is currently onto their 3rd batch so I would presume profitability will take another major hit down to around the $50/day or more when those machines are up and running. Lord help us all when the Obelisk miners get online. I think we'll see it drop to around $20 range around that time.

The only positive is the longer it takes for competition from Obelisk, hell even Innosilicon, to get online the quicker the chances are to ROI. I'm happy that I purchased the D9 batch 1 when I did but have to admit, I'm much more reluctant to purchase this current batch (which I intended to do) and any other batches in the future seeing how quickly Innosilicon releases additional batches diminishing profitability very quickly. It's very much a cat and mouse game and we're at the mercy of the manufacturer.

This major concern would be somewhat alleviated if releases were pushed a bit further apart allowing us to get closer to ROI before the next batch becomes available. I think, let's all hope Innosilicon truly is a different company than Bitmain with respect to caring about their customer base by NOT flooding the market. I've had a great overall buying experience and looking forward to repeating business but at this rate, there's too much risk.

**Inno, please hear this plea. PLEASE slow down on your releases so YOUR customers are not burned by purchasing your miners. Let us get a bit closer to ROI before releasing subsequent batches.**

Inno, Is there a firmware update for the D9/B29? The miner's interface consistently reads 2.35 TH/s but is lower on the pools (i.e. 1.9 TH/s). It is greatly appreciated if you could post a link to the latest firmware available.

Please let us know if you're aware of the discrepancy and if there are plans to fix this. Thank you in advance!

Thanks for the helpful info. Laying it on the side definitely lowered the temps. It seems like the temp readings may be for 24hr (??) intervals cus the highest recorded has definitely come down.

I've been mining DCR for a little over a week with my one miner.  So far I have found 3 blocks generating 39 coins towards the pool which is significantly less than my reward amount. Wonder if I would have found these blocks if I was solo mining or is it because of the consolidated hashing power of coinmine? I'm sure with your hashing power, you're finding blocks left and right. Would it be more profitable solo mining? Granted there are no guarantees if and when you'll find a block but seems probable if indeed your/my miner found the blocks without intervention from the pool.

Up until very recently, solo miners accounted for 2nd highest (31%) of the total distributed hashing power on https://dcrstats.com/pow. At the time of the snapshot (May 4th), Coinmine totaled 45.6%, Luxor at 13.7%. Those 3 groups accounted for 90% of the hashing power.  

Then f2pool came out of nowhere now making up for 29.7%. Coinmine accounts for 39.3%, Luxor with 12.3%, solo miners now only 2.1%. This totals up to 83.4%. f2pool is Chinese pool and has a very nice UI and the pages seem to translate to English okay.

Anyone know what the ideal ambient temp for the B29 is? I couldn’t find any info anywhere. On Inno, specs state 0-85 Celsius for internal. Looking at the UI, each board has 3 temps. One of my boards (middle) is reading 67 77 81. Should I start getting concerned?

Can someone also elaborate on how laying the miner on its side helps the temps? Does it matter which side to lay it on?

I don’t think Halong removes miners that are no longer in stock but instead uses an unavailable - join waitlist.

As far as your other miners... damn you made some D3 owner happy unloading them on you. Hopefully you didn’t pay too much. I think you get the best price purchasing from the manufacture and the  best chances of ROI if you’re an early adoptor. Definitely do not buy from eBay or Amazon unless you wanna pay scalped prices. Not sure why you would purchase an S7 when S9 was available. Typically older gen machines are way less efficient than the newer models.

I’d say read thread but if you are too lazy. Yes, some people have received their miners and others seem to be caught up in phantom shipping.