Did i say that ?

For this dip, now I am assured parntership is a sure thing ...

OK, did some research .. it can be alibaba

Based on all the fud, it's still great time to buy in ...

Effectively only 10M raised. If you were the dev, will you give up everything for that amount of money?  Unless token pay is also part of the scam; if that is the case, they must have stored a huge stack and have sold them out past few days ...

Guys what you really need to focus analyzing is Tonkenpay

Some of you guys, out of either side, some are legendary, some are newbie.  Your way of spreading your opinion is too enforcing and attacking-ish hence will never make effect to the other.

Again:
1. Respect the long journey Verge has gone through; ( many hasn't and likely will never have the chance come through these difficulties )
2. Treat the Verge potentially upcoming partnership an opportunity worth some your attention;
3. Acknowledge the risk of it; more importantly be aware that none the coins are much less risky than Verge;
4. The opportunity window may close soon;
5. Don't put all your eggs in one basket.

@the above, "hate" is perhaps too strong a word cuz that's a wrong thing. Well there's actually no right or wrong. People make their own decisions based on their own logic analyzing whatever on the surface (and how they are influenced by many opinions derived beyond facts).
Comparing to many others, I think presently XVG is a good one to lay my speculation on, but also a potential for long hodl.
To many currently dislikers, I suggest to give it a 2nd thought. It's still good time to get in.

@the above,  no offence, sometimes I joke ...

Sorry guys, i am in a moment where I determined to stick to the bottom of the thread.

@the above, XVG is on top of "facts" ( well, it might be too subtle for many to digest ) rather than "marketing".
Verge dev is a badass who doesn't give many fks.

@the above.

Wise man regards what you quoted the advantage that Verge owns. 

I sincerely recommend you to buy in now. When this around surge of others settled, XVG will set out ...

There are many reasons you are wrong, man. It isn't worth time to elaborate.
But most important one that must be emphasized: most other coins have shit name and shit logo.

This has drawn me thinking how this thing could have been better unfolded.

I am a programmer but have zero exposure to block-chain tech at all, so I would say I am just a speculator when I am putting money in cryptos.
I viewed on Youtube an interview to Sunerok and Pivx guys. I have am impression Sunerok is a confident knowing guy thus XVG is sort of worth a try.

I am thinking if I were Sunerok, what's happened to XVG since McAfee boasted it has been so dramatic but the same time kind of landing both huge responsibility and hope onto my shoulder.  Be noticed I am simply a guy who is pursuing my own vision about how crypto should be and I had never expected it all of sudden reached such a level of position in the list of all blockchain projects.
However, without significant investment, I could only continue and focus the project how it has been going. That's why a partnership with a big business may immediately improve this project from all aspects.

I reviewed some of the conversation (didn't go through all), in which I didn't find anything out of XVG dev is extremely disrespectful, though most their response are short (maybe that is as much as can be done at this point of time).

Now, If i were Cminer, I would have tried to talk Verge to publish the incident themselves (maybe Cminer did). I had all the right to make it public but I would mind the sequence.

I think, for investors, XVG has become a tool for people to make money by trading, it's already marked its position there. For long term hodlers, we will just believe in the vision.