We're going to be in our IRC chat in approx one hour.

at https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net/#earthcoin for those that want to join in on the discussion.

@earthcoin: I think you're idea of xfering all of the premine to a few accounts and publishing the transaction hash and public keys is a good idea. It allows a huge amount of transparency, and it will trounce trolls as well as soothe the fearful. It holds you and your team accountable when we can all see it.

I am still of the opinion that you guys can really help push the coin, but that it has enough going on it's own that you are not needed for it's success. That is not intended as an insult, you laid a good foundation. You ARE wanted, and one of the things that is wanted from you is a high degree of transparency regarding the premine.

I've stated my opinion of what will happen in either scenario previously, so I won't rehash it here. I will say that even though I was interested in this coin from the day you announced it, I was also a bit skittish over such a large premine. It's a thorny problem. On the one hand, as a developer you want some coin to throw around for the growth of the coin, but on the other it can easily be twisted to mean something more sinister. I think you would have been wiser to make it smaller.

That being said, I still think it has the potential to be a great product, and if you guys keep pushing, it can get there faster.

So, yeah, my recommendation is to make a public ledger and perhaps even a weekly JP&L either here or at earthcointalk so that the whole community can see what you're doing. It's possible to be pretty open while obscuring necessary secrets of development. It's a fine line, and I appreciate the difficulty.

Thanks for chiming in, and thanks for reading this. I'm still bullish on this coin's future, regardless of it's current exchange rate. If the whole goal of a person's involvement with the coin is FOREX games, well, that's their prerogative and I've no issue with it. But for the coin to succeed in the long term, that cannot be the sole focus. While the premine is hanging over our heads, it distracts from the very infrastructure building you and I are aiming for. It can't hurt to show us the money. And it can help.

Oh... I'll try not to get in any more fights Some days I just wake up on the wrong side of the bed.

EDIT: Typos.

Devs stopped by and said Hi about two days ago. 

WE NEED EVERYONE TO BE TOGETHER AND BUY UNITED AND SELL UNITED!

EarthCoin... to the people!!!

Vote for EAC here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=417125

I have a simple question to you people. What will the 2x and 5x payout do to the price of EAC in the short time? Will it definitely drop?

That strategy only works if the price rises up to meet your break even point at some time, otherwise you are just investing more money you will never get back. Foolish strategy in this case. That is an excellent way to lose everything . So you buy 10k at 400, then another 10k at 200, now your breakeven is 300. But now the coin is at 150, now do you buy a shitload more to try to catch the break-even bus? How far do you go with that strategy, will there ever come a time when it is better to abandon that method and liquidate, and try to recover something at least? 

My point exactly

You being too scared(cautious?) to buy at 140 somtehing.

Two of us are the same - I'm not dumping anything, and you're not buying anything.

so what's stopping you?

146 price at cryptsy is too HIGH for you?
so you don't believe much in EAC?

me, I'm laughing, but it's more leik this

To begin, why the need for labels?  Just because some of the first initiatives in here were to save the animals and plant forests, all of a sudden, everyone is a tree hugger?  There's not a single person who would hear the word profit and run away from it in this thread.  That would just be downright silly.  But you have to have belief and support behind a product, or else it fails.  All things have a beginning, maybe it starts small with green initiatives.  But when a snowball effect starts to happen, that's when you see things pick up pace.

One thing that you may need to re-evaluate is that you're downplaying the importance of a legitimate establishment or business accepting Earthcoin as a currency.  Earthcoin is now also accepted through Coin Payments.  Are these not business-like activities?

I'll be happy when Earthcoin reaches its true potential, then of course doubt will dissipate and I hope it makes people happy.  Unfortunately, it won't get rid of the negativity, because then everyone who doubted the coin and left will be angry that they didn't stay and more than likely return to whine because they dumped.  We'll see what happens when we get there.

I just got 12 000 Eac profit playing Gaia   
Cartman is most profitable now !!!
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