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1  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Proof that I was not a troll, just a stupid jerk!!! on: June 14, 2011, 03:46:08 AM
You can change the title of the old thread and even edit your first post to include this message. Adding [Sorry, my bad] to the old title is probably good.

Thanks.  I wasn't aware of that.

Done!
2  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Proof that I was not a troll, just a stupid jerk!!! on: June 14, 2011, 03:34:28 AM
Last Friday (US CDT), I made a post here accusing MtGox of losing my BTC and Transaction History (see http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=14881.0 ).

Some called me a troll and other took me at face value and offered possible suggestions.  I later posted in http://reddit.com/r/MtGox a link back to the Bitcoin Forum thread.

MtGox did not lose any bitcoins of mine.  They did not lose any Transaction History.  Instead, I am an idiot.

I had somehow suceeded in creating two MtGox accounts where the userid differed by one letter.

About an hour ago, MagicalTux finally had the time to respond to e-mail for help and pointed out my error, in a gracious and non-judgemental way.  My btc are there.  My transaction history is there.  And I'm considering crawling into a hole and never posting again.

My biggest regret is that my stupidity corrresonded with the dwolla issues that meant it took so long for MagicalTux to point out how stupid I was.  He didn't say so, but there was every indication that he was satisfied to leave the resolution private.  Given how much I went out of my way to make an ass of myself, I am not comfortable with that.

I do have one request of the Bitcoin Forum admins, if it is possible:  I did not reply to my original post because I did not want to bring it to the front page.   However, if there is a way to place a pointer to this post in that thread without bringing it out of the obscurity I would love to see it remain in, that would be great.  If it were also possible to change the thread title to include "I was wrong: " at the beginning, I would be grateful.

I cannot praise the muted response from MagicalTux enough.  I hope he is able to hire some people to deal with the e-mails and respond to idiots like me, so he can actually spend time on important matters.
3  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What's the best CPU miner and how do I run it in Windows 7? on: June 12, 2011, 06:44:50 PM

That guide doesn't tell me how to use the miner.  Like, I want to know what I need to do, to start mining with it.
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If you look at the beginning of the guide, it will link to another article about setting up solo mining.  While it is geared to GPU mining, you can use the same instructions to CPU mine.  That is not a great idea because it will take years to find a block using yoru CPU.

Basically, start the commandline without a device listing.  It will complain and list all your devices.  You will see the device number for a CPU and any compatible GPUs.
4  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What's the best CPU miner and how do I run it in Windows 7? on: June 12, 2011, 06:30:04 PM
Can't tell you what the best miner or pool is, but I used the instructions at http://www.newslobster.com/bitcoin/how-to-set-up-pooled-bitcoin-mining-in-windows to start my pooled mining.
5  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Original Bitcoin Client question on: June 12, 2011, 05:00:11 AM
Maybe a dumb question, but how do I know for sure when the client is done downloading blocks and actually working on them?

Look at http://blockexplorer.com/

That shows you that the current last block is 130207, at the time of this post.

Blockexplorer.com has lots of other cools stuff you can do like look at the block, the transactions inside a block, see how many bitcoins are available to an address, see what the next difficulty level is likely to be, and more.

6  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Newbie restrictions (Please discuss forum policy here.) on: June 12, 2011, 04:54:43 AM
There needs to be both a post and time limitation, so trolls can't "age" many accounts. I'd do that if SMF supported it.

Agreed.  However, the trolls mostly came in because of the news about bitcoins.  Any troll who registered long before the news influx happened would actually be a troll that requires very serious examination.  That would imply some type of pre-knowledge of the news push.

This is much more than an attempt to keep trolls to a minimum, It is an attempt to keep anything out that disagrees with the whim of the current mod on duty. It is ironic to see this happen at a forum about an open-source program. I'm not saying the troll issue should not be dealt with, but a simple +/- system where too many minuses ends your thread or at least moves it to junk would suffice. what we are seeing is this - mods think trolls caused decline, mods obviously want btc to go up, mods begin censoring in hopes btc will go back up. however, artificial manipulation of the markets will not work long run. go ahead and delete this now if you must, if one person sees it is was worth it.

There is a balance between a group-think echo chamber and the need to allow intelligent challenges.

I'm not seeing evidence that intelligent counter discussion threads are being wiped out.

You need to realize that for months the bulk of the users of this forum have developed a community with a definite identity and sense of unwritten rules.  The dual influx of active trolls attempting to disrupt that and clueless newbies shifting that zeitgeist, has seriously altered that online community.

I've been reading for just a few weeks and posting for less than a day.  I like the community the way it was when I started reading.

We're seeing a reaction that isn't ideal, but is better than what we had before this newbie ghetto was created.

In the end, I suspect the requirements for posting will change as will the community.  But, I hope that they continue to actively work against trolling that is trying to destroy the community.
7  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Newbie restrictions (Please discuss forum policy here.) on: June 12, 2011, 04:41:34 AM
I registered last summer and have done several successful trades via PM in the last few days. But I guess running at the mouth about nothing in particular is what I really should have done to be trusted!

The forum moderators have put this system in place quickly in response to an obvious attack.

My suspicion is that it will be tweaked in the coming days and weeks.

Honestly, it has improved the quality of the main boards.

It's inherent in any online community that becomes popular or experiences quick growth.  Newbies come in and ask the same questions over and over.  Mix in the chance for big profits and loss in fiat currency, and the problem gets really big.  Anyone who has ever looked at a Yahoo Finance board for a thinly traded stock that is experiencing huge volatility will know that what we've seen here is mild.

I remember helping to deal with this issue in the late 80's (pre-http) on a mailing list.  We ultimately moved to a moderation system that would not work here, but we were only dealing with OT and repetitive posts, not the active attempt to manipulate the price or trust in the system.
8  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: New to GPU on: June 12, 2011, 04:25:35 AM
For Windows there should be some option in the driver (or third party software).

In Windows, the Catalyst Control Center has a screen that shows temperature on a dial.
9  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Newbie restrictions (Please discuss forum policy here.) on: June 12, 2011, 04:23:25 AM
Given the stuff flooding the forums, I understand why this was done.

However, I'd also bet there are many non-troll, non-newbies who have not made 50 posts.  If the software allows it, I'd suggest opening posts for accounts that have existed since before the media coverage got tons of newbies interested in bitcoins.  Someone that has been on the forum for a month is probably not crap-flooding the forum.

NOTE:  This does not include me.  My userid was created today.  But, that change will probably relieve the potential upset of a number of users who are not going to troll and who may have useful insight if they decide to post.

It appears that many of the troll flood posts are either trying to simply drive people away or do things to help manipulate the trading.

Both of those should be stopped. 

Of course, some of the flood posts are legitimate newbies asking for help.  Unfortunately, the forum is not conducive to searching and the wiki's aren't non-geek friendly.  The recent press is driving many of those here too.  This is currently, THE place to get help and learn about bitcoins.  Unfortunately, the forum search does not make it easy to get at that collective memory for even those who bother to search before posting.  Think about the new user who is waiting hours for the block-chain to download but doesn't know what a block-chain is or why it has to complete.  Even if they are going to try searching before posting, they don't have the vocabulary yet to search, and I suspect that search would return many posts/threads that would not be helpful even if they had the vocabulary.

It's a challenge.  You risk driving people away, yet the current solution is better than the alternative.


10  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Newbie restrictions (Please discuss forum policy here.) on: June 12, 2011, 04:04:56 AM
This is a good move but it would have been nice to have been notified. Maybe an announcement at the top of every forum or something?

Agreed.  A sticky at the top of the active forums makes sense.
11  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC gone / Transaction History gone at MtGox on: June 11, 2011, 02:47:56 PM
I saw someone else with this issue post a few days ago, so this must be an actual bug. That's pretty bad. It's gotta be worse for MagicalTux, though, since he'll have to pour through a lot of logs to resolve this.

My home network has a linux router and is ntp sync'd.

I can narrow this down to a half hour window and possibly tighter by looking at some other logs, so if I ever hear from anyone, I can hopefully make that log searching easier.

My original e-mail, with more details like account name hit Google's SMTP server for MtGox at Jun  8 07:26:18 (UTC -5).

I still think this was a server load issue and that it can be clarified, it's just disturbing that it has taken this long and that I've not seen others with similar issues.

The closest thing I can think of is where I registered (with some other service, not Mt. Gox) two usernames without realizing it.  Logged in as the wrong one and saw no activity.

The account is a few weeks old.  I am certain this is not the issue.



I placed an order and I sent 10.5 btc in.

The way you wrote it confused me.    Just to make sure I follow,

You had a balance after adding Dwolla and using that balance placed a buy order which got a partial fill.

You then, coincidentally, did an Add Funds -> Add Bitcoins entered 10.5 and then clicked Send Bitcoins.  Then you sent 10.5 BTC to the address that you got from Mt. Gox: 1PsAZgtbsYLEqo7k1gxakyyYgRRhUoSrDS


That is correct.
12  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC gone / Transaction History gone at MtGox on: June 11, 2011, 04:00:40 AM
2.05 BTC just sent to 12YoaN7utmoqy8tfJKHPGZD6vs4uskhmso
13  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC gone / Transaction History gone at MtGox on: June 11, 2011, 03:59:28 AM
if it were just coins missing out of your wallet and not missing transaction history at mt gox i'd say you probably had your wallet stollen. however, considering you are saying that you saw the transaction history at mt gox and then did not, i am guessing that you think you can scare people into distrusting mt gox. I say this because i doubt somebody got into the inner workings of mt gox and used this ability not to steal massive amounts of money, but rather to make your 10btc history disapear.. sorry if your true, but i call ----



TROLL

Fair enough, but I'm not.

Personally, I think it was probably a problem at MtGox under a heavy load.  This was when values were in the high 20's and heading for over 30.  I'm hoping that when my e-mail finally gets read, this can get cleared up.

I do have something that can help prove my story.

One of the addresses in the 10.5 transfer to MtGox is

http://blockexplorer.com/address/15FpFY3boVKXPfRv6C9ssKXFt7hjKopWmX

It still has some btc available.

After posting this, I'll consolidate my meager funds and immediately post the address.  That should be before it hits a block or even before its spread through the network much.

That will at least show I actually made the transfer.

It should be easy for someone at MtGox to check to see if the address I sent it to was one generated by them.

14  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / [sorry my bad] BTC gone / Transaction History gone at MtGox on: June 11, 2011, 03:24:43 AM
See http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=16657.0 for the resolution on this.

The tl;dr is that I had created two MtGox accounts that were one letter off on their userids.

ORIGINAL POST:

I realize that MtGox has been inundated with e-mail.

I realize there have been issues with dwolla transfers.

However, I have not seen anyone else reporting issues like mine.

It has been over 60 hours since my e-mail.  It has been over 70 hours since my account looked normal.

I'm still hoping that my e-mail to MtGox eventually makes it out of the queue, but I need to know if I'm the only one.

I'd like to know if I am the only one something like this happened to and if anyone has any advice other than to continue to wait for my e-mail to be read and answered at MtGox.

Tue night (US Central time), I finally saw my nearly $500 dwolla transfer make it into my MtGox account.  I looked at the Transaction History, and it showed the date from when the transfer was initiated on the Dwolla side from the evening of the Friday before.  Four days and just two business days.  Not that bad from what I had heard.

I placed an order and I sent 10.5 btc in.  It partial filled.  I waited and went to bed.

When I went to bed, I saw two transactions:  the dwolla transfer and the partial fill.

When I woke up, I had 0 dollars.  I had 0 btc.  Trading pricing was such that the rest of my order would have filled in while I slept.  

I figured I'd been hacked and someone had transferred all my btc out, so I checked the transaction history.  It was blank.  There was nothing showing the transactions I'd seen the night before.  Nothing showing the additional trade.  Nothing showing the btc I'd sent in.  Nothing showing someone emptying my account.

If I'd been robbed, I'd expect to see transactions showing that.  If my trades were somehow cancelled, I expect to still see my dwolla cash.  In any case, by now, I'd expect to see my btc transfer in.

Here is the address I sent the 10.5 btc to, that was given to me via the MtGox interface:

http://blockexplorer.com/address/1PsAZgtbsYLEqo7k1gxakyyYgRRhUoSrDS

The only transactions on it are my 10.5 in and that 10.5 out.
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