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See but the thing is you were able to recover your deposit I think that this is the biggest portion of this to remember. Tesla knew they weren't going to be able to keep up with production and hit the quotas needed to sell all of the cars that people put deposits on -- this was something that was known of a company which has struggled to hit deadlines for so long. Elon Musk knew this, and made it so people could get their money back -- if he didn't know this, he would have made it so that wasn't able to be recovered and you'd just have to wait for the car (plus it's providing capital to a company which needs it, another reason not to give the money back)
Sorry, I don't see it as a business genius move. I'm quite sure that Tesla's lawyers told Elon that taking deposits and not delivering the car would be a scam so he didn't have much of a choice. However pissing away the goodwill of hundreds of thousands of potential customers who were happy to hand him $1000 and wait a year for the car is just plain dumb. Now they've scrapped the early reservations completely - anyone can order the car with a $5000 non-refundable deposit. I hope there are no problems with demand because that latest money grab is starting to sound desperate. I'm sure it must be frustrating to be a person waiting for a car and not get it. On the other hand, I think it is very good that Elon shoots high. It's much better to set a high goal and fall short than to set a goal that's too low and stop at that. It's not like Tesla hasn't given anybody cars. They have made tens of thousands of beautiful cars. They have had some pretty lofty goals. Maybe they haven't hit all of them, but they are putting in work. I believe that that have done huge things to stimulate the electronic car market in general. Just about all car producers are coming out with electric cars too. Musk is changing the world, regardless of what criticism you have for him.
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I agree with squatz1. Elon Musk is no ordinary guy. He's making a lot of sacrifices in his life specifically to make sure he has success in his business endeavors. People constantly seem to want to bring him down. He is literally changing the world. He's setting precedent in many different areas.
I laughed a little bit inside when I saw the title of this thread. The first thing that comes to mind when I head "the king of debt" is the US. The US owes more money to other countries than any other country in the world. They owe over 19 trillion dollars! This must be the fall of the US too, I guess.
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From Dictionary.com: Pact - https://www.dictionary.com/browse/pact?s=t: 1. an agreement, covenant, or compact: We made a pact not to argue any more. 2. an agreement or treaty between two or more nations: a pact between Germany and Italy.Contract - https://www.dictionary.com/browse/contract?s=t: 1. an agreement between two or more parties for the doing or not doing of something specified. 2. an agreement enforceable by law. 3. the written form of such an agreement.Notice the word agreement in both definitions. If somebody says to you, "Don't eat the apple or you will die," and you agree with him, you won't eat the apple, except if you are suicidal. If another guy comes along later and says, "You won't die if you eat the apple. Rather, you will become smarter," who knows if you agree with him until you tell us, right? But if you tell us by eating the apple rather than using words, and if you give some apple to your spouse who you love and would never hurt by causing his/her death, aren't you eating because you agreed with what the second guy said? If neither of the guys ever said anything, who knows what you would do and how you would behave. You might eat the apple. You might not. But, no agreement in force. But when you don't eat the apple because of what the first guy says, it is because you agree with him (agreement, pact, contract). Agreement/pact/contract with the first Guy: 2The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’ ” Action that showed that the agreement/pact/contract with the second guy was in force: 6When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) I think you are making the mistake of thinking that agreement, pact and contract are exact synonyms. Here's what I found on dictionary.com too: Agreement, bargain, compact, contract all suggest a binding arrangement between two or more parties. Agreement ranges in meaning from mutual understanding to binding obligation. Bargain applies particularly to agreements about buying and selling but also to haggling over terms in an agreement. Compact applies to treaties or alliances between nations or to solemn personal pledges. Contract is used especially in law and business for such agreements as are legally enforceable. If you say you think Croatia will with the World Cup and I agree. You can say that we came to an agreement inasmuch as we both agreed on the same idea. To me, it seems completely out of place to say that we now have a contract or a pact. Believing something that somebody said does not mean that you have agreed to "listen to him and obey his rules". Sure, you could say you believed him in one thing and decided to do what he suggested you do. There is no scripture that suggests that Eve made any kind of contract to do what Satan wanted her to do in the future. It's one isolated incident.
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When God created the Earth for us, he gave us a whole lot of freedom. We could do anything we wanted except for the one law... don't eat of the fruit of the tree in the middle of the Garden. The whole Earth was free for us. But then we accepted the info from the serpent/devil as greater than that of God. By doing this, we made a pact with the devil that we would listen to him and obey his rules. In other words, we gave the Earth over to the ownership of the devil, at least as far as we were concerned. If the devil had been somebody of little power, things might not be the same as they were. But check out the second half of Ezekiel 28 to see the power that God had given the devil. The devil was able, through our willing obedience of him, to effect great corruption in us at the core of our being. The result is that we no longer have any power on our own to turn from the devil. The influence of the devil over us is so great that, if we use any of our strength to attempt to even believe in Jesus salvation on our own, we turn the Jesus salvation thing into corruption for ourselves. It is only through the working of the Holy Spirit in our hearts (our core being) that Jesus salvation can be worked in us successfully. Since our corruption is this deep, and since we don't understand how such deep corruption works and what it does, we barely see why death is necessary for us, so that God can remake us in the New Heavens and the New Earth, where corruption can never happen again. This whole operation is built on: 1. The gift of God to us so that we have life; 2. The various agreements we make, first with God... to have life, then with the devil to corrupt our life, and then with God again to bring us to His new gift of salvation (even though it is God Who effects this second agreement with Him, in our hearts). None of this is as simple as you make it sound. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Sorry, if it seemed that I simplified things too much. I'm not the most knowledgeable on the subject. Don't you think that an all-knowing God knew that "we" would partake of the fruit? Couldn't that have been part of His plan? I never heard this wording before: "we made a pact with the devil that we would listen to him and obey his rules". Would you mind giving a scriptural reference for that? Maybe I just missed it. I that that there was no way for us to truly be tempted without having evil on the earth. We need opposing forces, so we can make decisions. If good is all you have, they there's no choice to make. The scripture reference is right in the beginning of Genesis... how Eve was tempted to eat the fruit. God said don't eat the fruit because you will die. The serpent (the devil talking through it) said you surely won't die. Genesis 3:1-5: 1Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”
2The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’ ”
4“You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman. 5“For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.” The problem started when the woman decided to believe the serpent rather than God. The contract was, essentially, "You believed me, so you get what I say." Since the contract with the devil was a lie, the contract was broken, because the woman did not get what the serpent said. But, the woman got what the contract with God said... death. So, where is the good and where is the evil? The good is that God didn't want man to die. Rather, He wanted a relationship with mankind. But this relationship barely got started when mankind decided to die, and do away with the relationship. That is the evil. When you look at the second half of Ezekiel 28, you can see the good that God placed in the devil, and the good reason why He made him this way... and how the devil changed himself from good to evil. Then, in John 8:44 we see when the devil started practicing his evil: 42Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. 43Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don’t you believe me? 47Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.” People don't clearly select who their parents are (even though they might in some unknown way). But we are all the children of Adam and Eve, who became children of the devil for a time... until God rescued them by promising the Savior. The devil's contract with them was broken, because he didn't fulfill his part of the bargain. And the contract with God was completed by mankind making their choice... to die. The death contract is fulfilled in us, who, like our first parents, die. The new contract with God is to believe the salvation of Jesus that God set in place. Man didn't have the power to make a new contract, but God did, because He still wanted the relationship. And, part of the new contract is God working the saving faith into the hearts those people who are too weak to reject faith. There is essentially no other way to say it. Strong will is strength against God's working faith in the heart... because the will of man still clings to both the devil's broken contract, and God's fulfilled contract of death. The point of all this is that we will all rise in the resurrection. God's contract of new life overcomes the old contract of death. But since the contract is made to apply by believing - Eve believed the devil regarding the first contract - it will hold true by believing in God for Jesus salvation in the second contract. Those who don't believe God for the second contract will get a final death, the second death, as talked about in the Revelation. And this second death will be a lot more painful and disastrous than the first death when they put you in the ground. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Thanks for taking the time to explain. I understand that most of what your saying is common Christian doctrine. I still do see the answer to my question though. You previously wrote, "we made a pact with the devil that we would listen to him and obey his rules". How is this a pact? Now you call it a contract with him. I don't see in the scriptures that Eve promised to listen to the devil and obey his rules. She just believed (presumably) what he said and partook of the fruit. Maybe I just don't understand the words pact or contract, but I don't understand otherwise.
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When God created the Earth for us, he gave us a whole lot of freedom. We could do anything we wanted except for the one law... don't eat of the fruit of the tree in the middle of the Garden. The whole Earth was free for us. But then we accepted the info from the serpent/devil as greater than that of God. By doing this, we made a pact with the devil that we would listen to him and obey his rules. In other words, we gave the Earth over to the ownership of the devil, at least as far as we were concerned. If the devil had been somebody of little power, things might not be the same as they were. But check out the second half of Ezekiel 28 to see the power that God had given the devil. The devil was able, through our willing obedience of him, to effect great corruption in us at the core of our being. The result is that we no longer have any power on our own to turn from the devil. The influence of the devil over us is so great that, if we use any of our strength to attempt to even believe in Jesus salvation on our own, we turn the Jesus salvation thing into corruption for ourselves. It is only through the working of the Holy Spirit in our hearts (our core being) that Jesus salvation can be worked in us successfully. Since our corruption is this deep, and since we don't understand how such deep corruption works and what it does, we barely see why death is necessary for us, so that God can remake us in the New Heavens and the New Earth, where corruption can never happen again. This whole operation is built on: 1. The gift of God to us so that we have life; 2. The various agreements we make, first with God... to have life, then with the devil to corrupt our life, and then with God again to bring us to His new gift of salvation (even though it is God Who effects this second agreement with Him, in our hearts). None of this is as simple as you make it sound. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Sorry, if it seemed that I simplified things too much. I'm not the most knowledgeable on the subject. Don't you think that an all-knowing God knew that "we" would partake of the fruit? Couldn't that have been part of His plan? I never heard this wording before: "we made a pact with the devil that we would listen to him and obey his rules". Would you mind giving a scriptural reference for that? Maybe I just missed it. I that that there was no way for us to truly be tempted without having evil on the earth. We need opposing forces, so we can make decisions. If good is all you have, they there's no choice to make.
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Yes, I hope you are not meaning to argue with me. This was a very good video actually. I enjoyed it. Thank you for sharing. It talks about population growth actually going down. It's called the demographic transition. All countries go through it, just some later than others. I really liked the point they made that it is in everybody's interest to have people all over the world be less poor. There will be less refugees and more stability. It would also decrease birth rates more quickly. It seems like the overpopulation is a dated scare. It's not a really problem, as was feared in the 1960s.
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Biblical prophets are the one that have really see the future and most of the prophecies has come to pass as stated. The end is very near then when we begin and that is why we should be close to God like never before. We are living in the earth and it seems all the humanity are against God.
Actually, the will of mankind is against God. As sinners, we can't understand the way that God thinks in His perfect desiring for us to be holy like He is. We might come close at times. But we never quite understand. This is why we die. We die so that we can let go of all imperfection. Then, god will take the essence of our spirits/souls, and place them into perfection in the new life in Heaven. So, yes! All of humanity is against God, even though He has found some of us who are so weak spiritually, that He can work saving faith in us. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) If you do believe in the Bible, wouldn't you believe that God is a loving creator? According the Bible, He created the whole Earth for us. You could compare Him to a parent. Even Jesus referred to Him as Father. If you imagine a parent-child relationship on Earth, you can see some similarities. Parents on Earth try to create good environments for their children. They try to give them lots of opportunities. Their children don't always obey and they don't always appreciate everything they've been given. I don't think you you can say though that the children are against their parents. They just don't understand everything completely yet.
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What do you think?From the Bible: In that day there will be a highway from Egypt to Assyria. The Assyrians will go to Egypt and the Egyptians to Assyria. The Egyptians and Assyrians will worship together. In that day, Israel will be the third, along with Egypt and Assyria, a blessing on the earth. The Lord Almighty will bless them saying, "Blessed be Egypt my people, Assyria my handiwork, and Israel my inheritance." (Isaiah 19: 23-25) Explanation: ...
Next door is modern day Syria. This is a creation of the United Nations. It was given to France as a protectorate and has no historic significance in its current form. Israel is down on the border. And south of that is Egypt.
So what the Bible is saying is a highway will start down in Egypt and probably follow what they call the Way of the Sea that runs up the coast of Israel and crosses over into the Plain of Megiddo and off into Damascus. This was formerly the typical trade route.
Isaiah says this is a time when all of the nations are going to be living in peace. He didn't say Syria, but he said Assyria. The Assyrian Empire extended from Ur of Chaldes, up the Tigress-Euphrates valley toward Baghdad then across to the Mediterranean, taking in modern day Syria. So Assyria in the Bible included modern day Iraq and Syria.
And in the end days there is going to be a coalition between Iraq and Syria. So the events that are taking place right now are extremely significant. I can see a coalition, a federation. We are not talking invasion, but it could happen. This area right now is stirred up with hatred and bitterness. This would encompass modern day Lebanon, which the Syrians have occupied illegally. Read more at http://www.patrobertson.com/Teaching/patprophecy.asp.![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Well, to believe this, you first have to believe in the Bible. Why do you say the end is near? I don't see anything in this article actually talking about this event being connected with the end of the world. It talks about the events taking place now being extremely significant. Is he implying that there's going to be a union between Iraq and Syria soon that will also encompass Lebanon? Maybe I'm really out of the loop, but it doesn't seem like anybody is actually trying to do that. I also think it's funny that the US should be "saving the world" yet again: I would think it would be marvelous if one of the things that the United States insists on is that they make a peace treaty with Israel. We need to tell Syria you are not going to be lobbing shells through your surrogates Hizbollah into northern Israel, but make peace. Then all of a sudden Egypt has a peace treaty with Israel, and now Syria and Iraq would come together under the United States influence. Is it really a fulfillment of prophecy, if you do it on purpose to fulfill a prophecy?
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Really? A whole strange lot on here. So many people seem to be in support of war. I had to actually pinch myself to be sure I wasn't dreaming. Wars don't reduce population only. They also reduce infrastructure and resources. What does this imply? It means we are always back to square one or even worse. I have a question of mine. Why is human population we need to reduce. Why not increase our productivity?
Wars actually cause an increase in the population. Check the population charts of countries such as Russia and Germany which suffered the most from WW2. There was a sudden spike immediately after the war was over. War is never the solution for anything. I just opened up the USSR demographic history ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_Soviet_Union). It looks like they lost about 16 million people during WWII. Other sites actually said they lost 20 million. It looks like it took them over 15 years to replenish the population after that. I not sure sure that is so fast. I do know what you mean by the baby boom though. Of course, during war people do want to have children because there is a lot of instability and danger. It's hard to say that war causes populations to grow. It is actually stopping war that lets the population grow again.
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Actually demography experts are not that worried about population increase. They claim that we will never see the 12 billionth person in the world. Over 90% of the world economies have increased last year, slowly but pretty surely the standard of living of the people around the world is getting better. This is a long process but eventually even what we call third world countries will metamorph in societies that resemble western such. This decreases birth rates, there are number of examples to back that up. Overpopulation is not that big of an issue, it will decrease over time.
Thank you for this positive perspective. I had read some of the literature before about overpopulation being a myth. I even read that we may have underpopulation problems. I never heard about never seeing the 12 billionth person though. I agree that the world is definitely getting "richer". Things are getting cheaper to produce overall. More people are able to afford conveniences that didn't even exist just a century ago. I also have a very optimistic view about the future of our world!
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I'm just fine with vaccines if they are justified based on unbiased information which is completely available to everyone for analysis. Of course they have to be used only for exactly what they are marketed for and nothing else.
I'm obviously against forced vaccinations, and especially if such programs are forced by pitting one group against another. I'm telling you, with even a little background in science, just dipping one's toe into the technology exposes that some pretty weird shit is going down.
To my knowledge rabies vaccine use for humans is never done unless one is know or suspected to have been bitten by a rabid animal. As far as I know it is an expensive and painful procedure involving many shots directly into the abdomen over a period of days. Maybe there is new technology in use for humans now. Don't know because I've not researched it.
That sounds like a health approach to vaccines. I agree that people shouldn't be forced to do things. They especially shouldn't be forced to do things without proper testing and education. There are vaccines for rabies. They can be administered prophylactically or for a short time after exposure to rabies. Vaccinating dogs has done very well to stop the spread of rabies among humans. Humans can also be vaccinated, but it's not a standard vaccine for the general public to get. It is usually given when people at a much higher risk of exposure. It only requires three doses over a one month period. Immunity is usually very long-lasting. You can read a bit more about it on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabies_vaccine
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I'm pretty sure that life expectancy had a huge effect on the world population. In 1950, the world population was under 3 billion. Before 1950 the average life expectancy in the world was never over 50. In 1900, it was only 31! This is thanks to modern medicine and the development of vaccines. That is why our population has grown so quickly over the past century. You also have to keep in mind that infant mortality has gone way down.
Nope. It is due to hygiene. ... ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Is there any chance you can find some proof of that? ... https://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/graphs/Note when, in the decline of all of these diseases, vaccination was actually put into play. That's pretty strong proof of their actual impact and effectiveness. Indeed, looking at the data one could logically conclude that they are 100% snake oil. I don't believe they are, but they are certainly not the miracle they are marketed to be by the medical/industrial complex. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fchildhealthsafety.files.wordpress.com%2F2009%2F01%2Fus-deaths-1900-1965.gif%3Fw%3D470%26h%3D312&t=665&c=qwjY7EGhVracVw) Well, in this graph it does look like the diphtheria vaccine had a great positive influence. It in very interesting though to see how little some of the others have made a difference. I don't think the data implies that they are 100% snake oil at all. I'm happy to finally see you acknowledge that you don't think that either. I agree with you that it is unwise to think that "vaccine" must mean that it's great idea to just get it. I think some vaccines are more useful than others. There are some that I'm sure it would be pointless to get. If you work with wild animals often, for example, it would be a very good idea to have a rabies vaccine. Rabies can kill you in 7 days, if not treated.
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I'm pretty sure that life expectancy had a huge effect on the world population. In 1950, the world population was under 3 billion. Before 1950 the average life expectancy in the world was never over 50. In 1900, it was only 31! This is thanks to modern medicine and the development of vaccines. That is why our population has grown so quickly over the past century. You also have to keep in mind that infant mortality has gone way down.
Nope. It is due to hygiene. There have been many peoples around the world who have always had general life expectancies in the range of 80 to 90 years - Japan, parts of China, some of the Himalayas. If you take a look, you will see that medicine and hygiene arrived about the same time in Europe and the Americas. It wasn't the medicine. It was the hygiene practices of the medical people. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Is there any chance you can find some proof of that? I can't seem to find historical data for life expectancy in Japan. I don't think the reduction in child mortality is just due to hygiene. You seem to discredit any developments in medicine. Medicine was definitely a thing before hygiene. You're right though, of course, medicine became much more effective, when people started better understanding the idea of bacteria and hygiene. If you get sick, do you not go to the doctor? Do you just wash more often? I think medicine is unmistakably progress and increases longevity.
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Look how Asgrath states a couple of totally irrelevant facts about polio vaccine (and from the WHO besides) and thinks it is 'research'. It is a FACT that up until a few years before I was born polio vaccines had, among other contaminates that nobody knew about, a virus called SV40. This virus is found in half of the cancer tumors to this day. That doesn't mean that it 'caused' all of the cancers (a profitable condition for the medical/industrial complex and one which is now very very common) but it is also very likely to be a contributing factor. Of course anyone who studies this finds problems in their career. Most people don't understand the technology of cultivating viruses and how difficult it is to understand what is in the mix. The target virus (say polio in this case) was grown on monkey kidneys (or was back in the day) but a hell of a lot of other things grew as well. Impossible to sort them all out, and very difficult to even identify them. Even in recent times with the rotavirus vaccine several pig viruses were found long after they started injecting them into humans. I might also note that the guy who holds the patents on rotavirus is Paul Offit who sits on various boards who decide what American kids should be shot up with. He won't say how much he makes off his patents. He was also on the panel where Dr. Baker of Baylor Medical School 'joked' that to get rid of the problem of people not wanting to shoot up their kids the U.S. should 'get rid of white people.' Dr. Paul Offit is the go-to guy for the mainstream media whenever they talk about vaccinations. Another funny fact about polio is that the 47,500 kids in India who were paralyzed after getting Gates' vaccine got a problem which was 'clinically indistinguishable' from polio. But it was not polio because it came from a vaccine. To add insult to injury, the rate of physical damage from 'wild strain polio' in India was already very low before Bill Gates' 'philanthropy'. Another thing which people don't know is that 'polio' was often not a crippling disease. My dad had it as a kid and when he was an adult he was in amazingly good physical condition. His job was to climb 200 ft trees talking off all of the limbs, cut to top out, and rig it with cables for high-lead logging. This is not a job for pussies. A real doctor, and one who took a 90% pay cut in order to do the right thing by humanity, gave a pretty good series of lectures on the polio question. Very eye-opening. Here's a little clip of the hours of lectures I've seen (and downloaded so it doesn't get 'lost'): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqhnp-NYGC4 the government is poisoning us!!!!!!!! They are trying to kill everyone!!!!!!!!! Population[5] Years passed Year Billion – 1800 1 127 1927 2 33 1960 3 14 1974 4 13 1987 5 12 1999 6 12 2011 7 12 2023* 8 ROFL one of the most robust findings in the research on conspiracy theories is that there is a commonality to conspiracy theorists, even if the theories themselves are different. For instance, people who believe in the shape-shifting reptilian are much more likely also to doubt that Lee Harvey Oswald acted as a lone wolf. Indeed, those who believe that Osama bin Laden was dead before the Navy Seals shot him are also more likely to consider it plausible that bin Laden is still alive. This has led many researchers to conclude that the agreement with specific conspiracy theories is not so much dependent on the specific topic, but is rather the manifestation of a more general worldview. The “conspiracist ideation,” “monological belief system,” or “conspiracy mentality” can be thought of as the general extent to which people see the world as governed by hidden, sinister forces. Most blame the conspiracy mentality on a sense of profound lack of control in their lives, whether due to randomness or the machinations of others. All you are showing us is that there is something stronger than our best strength to kill each other off. There is no proof that great population has anything to do with the attempts of anyone to save life. In the 20th century, where there was an extremely great population explosion, we had Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Castro, and many others, who did their best to kill off the world - probably in excess of 200 million died from their attempts. Why would you think that anybody in the Allies nations of WW2 would cause greater population in any way? After all, these nations killed off millions in their attempts to stop Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Castro, and many others, from killing off the world. In the face of the best attempts of people to kill off the world, we don't have any success. The world keeps going onward, and that without our knowing how or why. The population explosion shows that the timeline of the world is a lot shorter than standard science suggests. How? By showing that populations grow so fast that, if the world were millions of years old, there would have been standing room only, long ago. But if that seems unlikely, it at least shows that our whole picture of prehistory is really not understood correctly. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) I'm pretty sure that life expectancy had a huge effect on the world population. In 1950, the world population was under 3 billion. Before 1950 the average life expectancy in the world was never over 50. In 1900, it was only 31! This is thanks to modern medicine and the development of vaccines. That is why our population has grown so quickly over the past century. You also have to keep in mind that infant mortality has gone way down.
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What do you think is the best way to decrease population?
Nuclear war. What? Nuclear war? I think it is not a solution to the problem, but it adds a problem to many parties, it is good to give rules to all countries and governments to socialize to the family in order to be limited by the number of children, such as a maximum of one family has two children or one child only. Nuclear war, chemtrails, junkfood.
What a ridiculous idea! Seems pretty counterproductive. Maybe people are concerned that we are doing too much damage to the planet because we have too may people. Imagine how much damage a nuclear war would do to the planet! Once the war started, it would just escalate. This would lead to more destruction. War would probably distract people from any efforts that were being made before to take better care of the environment. During a war, some may take advantage of the turmoil and exploit even more resources while nobody is paying attention. Sure, you might have less people, but you'd have so many more problems.
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There are 7.8 billion people in the world today --- and if we think that the statistical data shows too much population of the world, then we would most likely to think that it must be reduced. Well, personally, I think that we could not and should not forcefully decrease those numbers. However, I believe that we can raise an awareness to do almost the same as the other. Hence, it must start within a family. Natural birth control for me is the moset approprite way of decreasing the population growth. This birth control method is a cheap, practical, and 'less immoral' and 'less condemnable' one. And by using this kind of bith control method, we will give the involved persons free to choose and to make a decision whole-heartedly.
What should people's awareness be raised about? What should they know? What should be implied that would be good? That they have no kids? Or that they should have fewer children? Why? What do you mean by natural birth control? Just choosing not to have more children?
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No, i not believe it, no one even witness for now, maybe i will change my mind if someone can proof that aliens is exist. Their existence still gray, you need more evidence to make me believe.
I don't see that humans have any need to explain their existence to ants so why would THEY do it for us? Ok. But it's more complicated than that. An argument can be made that we would be able to see something. Find some evidence of aliens. Either them moving around in their spaceships or enveloping every star in dyson spheres or whatever. That's probably what we would do considering our understanding of physics and how the universe works. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZFipeZtQM5CKUjx6grh54g/videos this guy has some great videos about all that. But in short you have to consider that for what you said to be true, aliens would need to know a lot of new physics we don't know about. And they would all need to agree we are not worth talking to. Maybe not likely if there are many alien species out there. Also it's not that we wouldn't try to talk to ants if we could. We just don't know how to. If aliens exist, it doesn't mean they are nearby. I don't really think there are aliens hiding on our moon. I don't think there are any aliens in our solar system. The fact that we are constantly finding new planets and starts and universes implies to me that it's perfectly possible that there are aliens on some other planet that we haven't even discovered yet. Maybe w should look at it from another perspective. How do you think that somebody in another universe could identify from that far away that there is intelligent life on earth? I wonder if you could even tell that from the farthest planets in our solar system. If they couldn't tell that we're here, how should we expect to know they're there or not.
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The birth rate is already decreasing. It has been for many decades. This is greatly tied to wealth. As a country becomes more wealthy, the birth rate tends to decrease. In the past, it was more important to people to have more children. Not that long ago, the majority of society was involved in farming. Now it is just a small percent of the population. When people had old traditional farms it required a lot of work, so people would have more children to have more free labor. This is still the case in some places, but it's happening less an less as technology relieves farm workers around the world.
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Well about the third industrial revolution there are so many points that make the third revolution linked to first and second like:
1) I think Third mechanical upheaval as of now began and in the underlying stage, with the development of PCs and programming dialects numerous generation lines in the businesses are robotized with the utilization of process robotization and utilization of apply autonomy. I think square fastens are more important to administrations when contrasted with assembling and will bolster the third upset by like overseeing supply chains or products or material stream, quality administration.
2) There are truck drivers, cabbies, transport drivers, nourishment conveyance drivers, dispatches... I'm certain there will simply be increasingly self-driving autos later on. Every one of those drivers will be out of a vocation. You can continue endlessly about employments that are being supplanted by innovation. Some call focus employments are notwithstanding being supplanted via mechanized frameworks that are really beginning to get truly great. It's interesting some of the time to see governments scramble to "make employments". That is not going to be the arrangement. It must be an option that is greater than that. I like that a few nations are as of now trying different things with the possibility of an all inclusive pay.
That's the big question now is how we're going to adapt and create a ladder that these people can reasonably climb up. The bottom level of jobs is about to be eliminated again (like factory work was with automation of car manufacturing) and there will have to be another position for these workers to find. Lots of extremely high level jobs are being created, but is there enough room at the bottom when the next wave of automation gets perfected? I am having a hard time imagining how the governments will be able to give them a place to work. Maybe this is why a universal basic income is being discussed again. Pay people just enough to exist, so if they want to turn into vegetables they can, or if they want a challenge, they can go out and find work to take them up to the next level. Such good discussion! I love the idea of what the future has in store. It feels like everything is developing so quickly. I think the idea of universal income is fascinating. It will completely transform our society. Fundamentally, I think the idea is that technology is providing us with so much wealth, that there's more than enough to go around. It's like how copyright or pharmaceutical right are limited. One person or group of people benefit a lot from an invention or creation for a certain number of years. After that, it's time for us all to benefit. Universal income can provide everybody with their basic needs. Anything on top of that will require them to be creative. They will have a lot more free time and head space to be innovative. I think we would see even more innovation!
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I think that each era of communication just keeps getting better an better! I am not that old, but I remember when all we had were home phones. Long distance calls were quite expensive, even within the country. Now we can talk to anybody anywhere in the world as much as we want for much cheaper. I had a long-distance relationship for about a year and I was able to talk to my girlfriend by audio or video chat every day, anytime we wanted. She was across the ocean! Even just 15 years ago it would have been hard to imagine that you would be able to send video and photos from a cell phone anywhere in the world. I remember being pretty amazed that somebody did a video chat from the street in their city, now it's totally normal.
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