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1  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: New firmware for antminer S9 - less power consumption on: November 09, 2018, 04:51:45 PM
How did you increase the frequency? When i try the advanced menu and set a higher freq, the miner restarts naturally but goes to its same old "low" hashrate back...

You need to flash the firmware with the 650 firmware. This is the firmware that allows for fixed FREQ changes, the one that mine came with was on auto FREQ so each time I changed the FREQ it would revert. But once I flashed it with the 650 Firmware, I was able to make the changes to the FREQ and saved on reboot. Then I applied the LPM update for giggles.



hi,
i see several post' of installing the LPM fw on top of FW "xxx".

Am i mistaken, as i thought the LPM firmware is a complete new firmware on its own? No need to pre-install any other firmware before this one?

If so, witch fw is the best to install before upgrading to the new LPM firmware?

Another user mentioned this on page 10:

All that the LPM "firmware" file contains is a modified bmminer and BOOT.bin. If you flash it to an autofreq miner, it will still be autofreq. Same for fixed frequency miners. You can confirm either by testing or just opening the LPM tar.gz with a program like 7zip, if you are on Windows.

This makes sense, because when you flash a firmware from prior releases the settings were defaulted, but with LPM my settings were never changed.  Hope that makes sense.  I was confused at first as well, since I never flashed my firmware until just this week, and I've had my miner for almost 11 months now.
2  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: New firmware for antminer S9 - less power consumption on: November 09, 2018, 12:04:18 AM
Sorry - I forgot to mention about reconfirming the freq when you change the fan setting.   On the Fixed freq 650 FW version, if the inputted freq field is left blank, it sets a safe 600 default value - so you have to input the value again like you did.

I don't understand why the fan started at 6,120 and then went to 3,600 - as you have input a PWM of 85% it shouldn't change at all.

For thoroughness - as we are on a tweaking-fest  Cheesy, it would be worth checking what chain voltages got set in the kernel log for your high hash rate.  Hopefully it is nice and low like 8.7 or 8.8v (it will show in the log as 880).   It doesn't matter much if it is higher like 9.4v etc, but higher voltages will obviously draw more power, although they may be needed for stability.    The voltages can also be tweaked to find the ideal compromise between stability and power consumption, but there usually isn't much need unless the miner starts misbehaving or you start getting missing hash boards.

Ya, very weird.  I went ahead and changed the FREQ back, this time to 706.  Its been running for 1hr 45mn now, and I see 194 HW on one of the hash boards, total shows .0009%.  The fan speeds still shows; 4,440 and 3,600.  I did the fan speed trick again, and it still shows the value 85 when i unhide the fan-control settings lol.. strange.

As for the kernel log here it is below;

Code:
Miner fix freq ...
read PIC voltage=940 on chain[5]
Chain:5 chipnum=63
Asic[ 0]:706
Asic[ 1]:706 Asic[ 2]:706 Asic[ 3]:706 Asic[ 4]:706 Asic[ 5]:706 Asic[ 6]:706 Asic[ 7]:706 Asic[ 8]:706
Asic[ 9]:706 Asic[10]:706 Asic[11]:706 Asic[12]:706 Asic[13]:706 Asic[14]:706 Asic[15]:706 Asic[16]:706
Asic[17]:706 Asic[18]:706 Asic[19]:706 Asic[20]:706 Asic[21]:706 Asic[22]:706 Asic[23]:706 Asic[24]:706
Asic[25]:706 Asic[26]:706 Asic[27]:706 Asic[28]:706 Asic[29]:706 Asic[30]:706 Asic[31]:706 Asic[32]:706
Asic[33]:706 Asic[34]:706 Asic[35]:706 Asic[36]:706 Asic[37]:706 Asic[38]:706 Asic[39]:706 Asic[40]:706
Asic[41]:706 Asic[42]:706 Asic[43]:706 Asic[44]:706 Asic[45]:706 Asic[46]:706 Asic[47]:706 Asic[48]:706
Asic[49]:706 Asic[50]:706 Asic[51]:706 Asic[52]:706 Asic[53]:706 Asic[54]:706 Asic[55]:706 Asic[56]:706
Asic[57]:706 Asic[58]:706 Asic[59]:706 Asic[60]:706 Asic[61]:706 Asic[62]:706
Chain:5 max freq=706
Chain:5 min freq=706

read PIC voltage=940 on chain[6]
Chain:6 chipnum=63
Asic[ 0]:706
Asic[ 1]:706 Asic[ 2]:706 Asic[ 3]:706 Asic[ 4]:706 Asic[ 5]:706 Asic[ 6]:706 Asic[ 7]:706 Asic[ 8]:706
Asic[ 9]:706 Asic[10]:706 Asic[11]:706 Asic[12]:706 Asic[13]:706 Asic[14]:706 Asic[15]:706 Asic[16]:706
Asic[17]:706 Asic[18]:706 Asic[19]:706 Asic[20]:706 Asic[21]:706 Asic[22]:706 Asic[23]:706 Asic[24]:706
Asic[25]:706 Asic[26]:706 Asic[27]:706 Asic[28]:706 Asic[29]:706 Asic[30]:706 Asic[31]:706 Asic[32]:706
Asic[33]:706 Asic[34]:706 Asic[35]:706 Asic[36]:706 Asic[37]:706 Asic[38]:706 Asic[39]:706 Asic[40]:706
Asic[41]:706 Asic[42]:706 Asic[43]:706 Asic[44]:706 Asic[45]:706 Asic[46]:706 Asic[47]:706 Asic[48]:706
Asic[49]:706 Asic[50]:706 Asic[51]:706 Asic[52]:706 Asic[53]:706 Asic[54]:706 Asic[55]:706 Asic[56]:706
Asic[57]:706 Asic[58]:706 Asic[59]:706 Asic[60]:706 Asic[61]:706 Asic[62]:706
Chain:6 max freq=706
Chain:6 min freq=706

read PIC voltage=940 on chain[7]
Chain:7 chipnum=63
Asic[ 0]:706
Asic[ 1]:706 Asic[ 2]:706 Asic[ 3]:706 Asic[ 4]:706 Asic[ 5]:706 Asic[ 6]:706 Asic[ 7]:706 Asic[ 8]:706
Asic[ 9]:706 Asic[10]:706 Asic[11]:706 Asic[12]:706 Asic[13]:706 Asic[14]:706 Asic[15]:706 Asic[16]:706
Asic[17]:706 Asic[18]:706 Asic[19]:706 Asic[20]:706 Asic[21]:706 Asic[22]:706 Asic[23]:706 Asic[24]:706
Asic[25]:706 Asic[26]:706 Asic[27]:706 Asic[28]:706 Asic[29]:706 Asic[30]:706 Asic[31]:706 Asic[32]:706
Asic[33]:706 Asic[34]:706 Asic[35]:706 Asic[36]:706 Asic[37]:706 Asic[38]:706 Asic[39]:706 Asic[40]:706
Asic[41]:706 Asic[42]:706 Asic[43]:706 Asic[44]:706 Asic[45]:706 Asic[46]:706 Asic[47]:706 Asic[48]:706
Asic[49]:706 Asic[50]:706 Asic[51]:706 Asic[52]:706 Asic[53]:706 Asic[54]:706 Asic[55]:706 Asic[56]:706
Asic[57]:706 Asic[58]:706 Asic[59]:706 Asic[60]:706 Asic[61]:706 Asic[62]:706
Chain:7 max freq=706
Chain:7 min freq=706

max freq = 706
set baud=1
Chain[J6] PIC temp offset=62,-4,0,0,0,0,33,0
Chain[J6] chip[244] use PIC middle temp offset=-4 typeID=55
New offset Chain[5] chip[244] local:47 remote:50 offset:29
Chain[J6] chip[244] get middle temp offset=29 typeID=55
Chain[J6] chip[128] use PIC middle temp offset=0 typeID=00
Warning: Chain[J6] has no temp offset in PIC! will fix it
New offset Chain[5] chip[244] local:45 remote:48 offset:29
Chain[J6] chip[244] get middle temp offset=29 typeID=55
Chain[J7] PIC temp offset=62,-6,0,0,0,0,33,0
Chain[J7] chip[244] use PIC middle temp offset=-6 typeID=55
New offset Chain[6] chip[244] local:38 remote:41 offset:28
Chain[J7] chip[244] get middle temp offset=28 typeID=55
Chain[J7] chip[128] use PIC middle temp offset=0 typeID=3f
Warning: Chain[J7] has no temp offset in PIC! will fix it
New offset Chain[6] chip[244] local:37 remote:40 offset:28
Chain[J7] chip[244] get middle temp offset=28 typeID=55
Chain[J8] PIC temp offset=62,-4,0,0,0,0,33,0
Chain[J8] chip[244] use PIC middle temp offset=-4 typeID=55
New offset Chain[7] chip[244] local:38 remote:40 offset:29
Chain[J8] chip[244] get middle temp offset=29 typeID=55
Chain[J8] chip[128] use PIC middle temp offset=0 typeID=3f
Warning: Chain[J8] has no temp offset in PIC! will fix it
New offset Chain[7] chip[244] local:36 remote:39 offset:28
Chain[J8] chip[244] get middle temp offset=28 typeID=55
Chain[J6] set working voltage=870 [125]
Chain[J7] set working voltage=870 [125]
Chain[J8] set working voltage=870 [125]
setStartTimePoint total_tv_start_sys=70585 total_tv_end_sys=70586
restartNum = 2 , auto-reinit enabled...
do read_temp_func once...
do check_asic_reg 0x08

Fan PWM:50
3  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: New firmware for antminer S9 - less power consumption on: November 08, 2018, 10:07:15 PM
haha.. wow, that was the easiest mod ever. Thanks again, I went ahead an applied 85% and antminer just rebooted after the save and apply.  Fan6 speed after reboot jumped to 6,120 but 4mn in now its at 3,600.  The strange part is the FREQ ended up getting adjusted down to 600.  Im going to readjust it back to 725 and see if fan speed still shows up 85% in kernel log.

Update: I went ahead and tried the fan speed trick again, and when i deleted ":none" the fan speed ctrl appeared, and the value, 85 was still there.. See screenshot below;

https://imgur.com/a/HgI40n4
4  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: New firmware for antminer S9 - less power consumption on: November 08, 2018, 01:51:48 AM
You were quick with the firmwares and reboots!  Glad to see it is working.  

Check your fan speeds - at those temps they would normally be nearing max - i.e. 5,600 to 6,000 on the intake fan.   Yours are probably lower than this because for some strange reason the fixed freq firmware sets them lower - hence the boards get hot for no good reason.

If so, you basically have spare "fan speed" capacity to speed them up and still run a high hash rate at reasonable temps.   If you want to increase the fan speeds back to the "usual" speed let me know.    It only takes around 30 seconds to do, but it takes a lot longer to explain how to do it than to actually do it  Cheesy

Edit: your update 2 crossed in the post with my message.  Yep as expected the fans are far too slow - but your temps are not too bad even with these slow fans.     If you set them to around 90% , you'll get speeds of around 4080 / 5640 on the 2 fans.  This should bring your temps down to the 70s even on your 15TH/s.  The fans will also then be fixed - which shouldn't be a problem unless the weather / room temp changes a lot.  It only takes 30s to tweak the fan speeds if you need to occasionally.   Or you can be lazy and set them to a nice noisy, fan bearing ruining 100%!

Ahh okay, im sure theres a write-up on the fan speed tweak online, i'll google and adjust.  The low temp speeds is probably because it currently sits in my server closet, with a dedicated HVAC system that runs 24/7 - 365days to keep the room at a brisk 65-70F.  However I have 4 physical DELL rack servers in this server closet as well.  But i'll give the fan tweek a try, i actually like the slight quietness currently right now.  For what its worth, I am not using a Bitmain PSU, Im using the EVGA SuperNova.

Update: So I found a YouTube showing how to apply the fan config, via putty, and editing the bmminer.conf file, but as I recall doing the prior firmware 650 upgrade, etc.. and saving the backup file via antminer GUI, the backup file contains the bmminer.conf file, which I assume I can edit via winrar, save it, and do a Restore Backup via the antminer GUI and this should apply the Fan configuration?  I find it easier than going through putty lol.   Anyhow this is the config changes I made in bmminer.conf:

Code:
"A:0/0,W:*","bitmain-fan-ctrl" : true,"bitmain-fan-pwm" : "85",
"bitmain-use-vil" : true,
"bitmain-freq" : "725",
"bitmain-voltage" : "0706",
"multi-version" : "1"
}

Edit: I am using 7-Zip to create the TAR fil.

Update: I applied the config above and uploaded the new TAR backup via GUI, and it rebooted, but the fan speed still seems locked at "PWM: 46" based on the kernel log.  I went ahead and did a Generate Archive, and confirmed the TAR it generated, had the updated configuration above in the bmminer.conf file.  Maybe, my theory didnt work and i'll have to use Putty?  well.. i guess for now i'll leave as is.  Getting late in the office messing with this for the last few hours haha.

Thanks again for the help!
5  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: New firmware for antminer S9 - less power consumption on: November 08, 2018, 12:39:39 AM
Hi - the LPM release didn't really change the previous firmware - it just added the Asic Boost function - so whatever firmware you were on - i.e. fixed or autofreq - will still essentially stay the same.   Assuming that you were / are  on the standard autofreq firmware, if you have input a higher speed using http://192.168.1.xx/cgi-bin/minerAdvanced.cgi, it will just get ignored - you can see that in the kernel log - it will still do the auto-tune function.

So you need to flash your miner with a fixed freq firmware i.e. Antminer-S9-all-201705031838-650M-user-Update2UBI-NF.tar.gz  and then reapply the LPM firmware i.e.  Antminer-S9-LPM-20181102.tar.gz  "on-top" of the fixed freq firmware.    This will give you the Asic Boost function and the ability to increase your hash-rate.   As standard on the fixed firmware your freq will initially be fixed at 650 (i.e. 14 TH/s), so then you need to over-ride that using http://192.168.1.xx/cgi-bin/minerAdvanced.cgi  which I guess you are already trying .  That new frequency will get processed this time -  and easy to check in the kernel log.

Thank you very much for the explanation regarding the LPM release.  This makes total sense now.  I did do a firmware upgrade to firmware 650, and confirmed I am now able to set fixed FREQ.  I'll apply the LPM release now to take advantage of the electric efficiency.  Thanks again!  

PS.. I had it set to 725 but Temp reading was 81,74,77.. worried i'll shorten the life on this miner, so i am going to toggle it down some..

Update: I applied the LPM update on top of the 650 fixed firmware, and confirmed I can still set fixed FREQ.  Currently have it set to 712 and temps are reading 82-72-75.  Smiley Mining at 15,003.80 GH/S(RT).

Update2: After toggling it down to 712 the temps didnt really drop much from 725, so I went ahead and toggled it back to 725.  Current readings as of now is 82/73/74... did some light search on google and bitmain and seems i should be fine.  Fan speeds are relatively low as well.  Screnshot below;

https://imgur.com/a/0GEd775
6  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: New firmware for antminer S9 - less power consumption on: November 08, 2018, 12:05:43 AM
The message is ambiguous / misleading.   The "3 hour" message says about searching - even on the fixed freq firmware, which doesn't make sense.  As you will be using the fixed frequency firmware, there is no frequency searching, so the miner will reboot much quicker than on the autofreq firmware.  You can compare the kernel logs - you can see that it just sets the same frequency on all 3 boards to whatever you input and skips all the time consuming searching and setting each board individually part.  You'll probably notice the fans don't go up and down like screaming banshees so much when the miner starts either.   

Keep an eye on your temps - the fixed freq firmware runs the fans slower than the autofreq, so with two identical S9s on different firmware but set for the same hash rate, the fixed freq one will run hotter.  If they do run too hot, you can manually set the fans to a similar speed as they were on the autofreq firmware.

Ahh. okay.. so these FREQ settings will only work on a specific firmware, and not the new LPM firmware?  Because right now I have the LPM firmware on teh S9 and tried applying the FREQ settings on it to 706.25 but its been 1.5hrs and the avg FREQ in the status window still shows 650 across all 3 hashboards.
7  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: New firmware for antminer S9 - less power consumption on: November 07, 2018, 10:27:41 PM
S9 LPM
here is one more like that: https://imgur.com/a/Nwiard8

Odd that your temp sensors are not giving you temp readings?  The last time I seen something similar to your screenshot on my S9 was when one of my hashboards failed.. can't say the same on yours, but its worth downgrading to the prior firmware to see if any changes otherwise, could be hasboard issues.

All that the LPM "firmware" file contains is a modified bmminer and BOOT.bin. If you flash it to an autofreq miner, it will still be autofreq. Same for fixed frequency miners. You can confirm either by testing or just opening the LPM tar.gz with a program like 7zip, if you are on Windows.

Hmm.. ya, my miner status window has the same synchronize freq. after the firmware update.  I was going back through the pages on this thread and seen some screenshot of similar synchronize freq.

It looks like the "Beeper ringing" checkbox from the older models has been repurposed to serve as the "Low Power Mode" checkbox in the S9 LPM. I wonder if that means that unchecking the box will not have any effect, since unchecking the "Beeper ringing" box on a base model S9 will simply revert back when you try to save it.

I havent tested yet, but I did a search yesterday on this checkbox and found a few people have tried unchecking this box, and reported no changes when saved and rebooted.

Asicboost gives you a drop in power consumption while maintaining the same hashrate. If you really need the increase in hashrate, you can overclock by roughly the same percentage in order to bring the miner up to the previous power consumption, but with an increased hashrate. (Should be around 13% from what I've heard). For 14TH/s fixed freq miners I've been bumping them up from 650 to 706.25 MHz.

Thanks I just found out how to adjust the freq lol.. so I am bumping to 675 right now to see how hot it gets.  However I got a pop up that says it will take up to 3 hours to mine, is this true or another ambiguous message?
8  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: New firmware for antminer S9 - less power consumption on: November 07, 2018, 09:53:06 PM
that is an s9? I have never seen the miner status screen look that - is that a fixed frequency miner? if so, maybe that is why it looks different than all my s9's

The fixed frequency is part of the LPM firmware update.  Mine has the same thing.  I updated with the most recent firmware two days ago.
9  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: New firmware for antminer S9 - less power consumption on: November 07, 2018, 07:24:52 PM
Okay, I have applied the latest 11218 lpm firmware found on bitmains downloads section.  I confirmed with pool.bitcoin.com support its compatible on their pool.  Ive been running this now for 48hrs.  My S9 is in my server room, with a dedicated 24/7 HVAC temps on my asic average 62-68F 24/7.  I have noticed a power drop, but as for hashrate.. nothing has changed, according to the stats on pool.bitcoin my daily hashrate the last 48hrs are pretty much the same pre-lpw firmware update.

I was expected a small bump in hashrate based on some light reading of this "asiicboost" update.. but guess I am misreading something?

https://imgur.com/a/FaSGov6
10  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: New firmware for antminer S9 - less power consumption on: November 06, 2018, 01:08:33 AM
Just updated to the 11218 LPM firmware.  Seems my hashrate is slightly higher and low power consumption around 12-15%.  I only read through the first two pages and the last page on this thread, but has anyone been able to run this with the LPM box unchecked and confirmed higher hashrate?  So far from what i've read on the first two pages, no differences with LPM box checked or unchecked.  Btw, I am running this on pool.bitcoin since they notified me that the pool now supports ASICBoost. 
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