Hey AlecMe. Thanks for sharing your concern. First thing I'll do is remind you that per the statement we're releasing two updates in response to the recent event. Once we have both out we can get trading operational again, and work with the the various parties to get everything back on track. We're already in contact with most of these parties, so it shouldn't take a long time. Rest assured we're still fully committed to Veil.

As for whattomine I'll check with the team and see if we're already in contact with them. If not, I'll make sure we reach out.

Cheers!

UPDATE so whattomine is not currently listing Veil due to trade inactivity meaning they cannot properly source data. It should be restored along with everything else in the near future as mentioned above.

As Dango mentioned earlier, the price may appear skewed at this time. With exchanges not trading, the set of data being drawn from to calculate the price is vastly diminished.

Hey Lucky - Luciano. That sounds like something you could probably solve through your OS.

We're working on exchanges daily. Some take longer. Some have requirements we need to meet. We certainly welcome recommendations, and you're also welcome to reach out to your favourite exchanges to ask them to list Veil, as community support will surely help sway them.

We often can't talk about exchange deals until Veil is listed and we can announce, but we'll continue keeping you all informed as soon as we're able.
Cheers!

Thanks for sharing Klaasje.

It's the first I've heard of it, and appreciate the heads up.

Cheers!

Hey guys,
Keep in mind there are people staking with many thousands of coins at this point. Staking with several hundred may take some time.

If you're having problems, or would like to engage with staff members, submitting a help ticket or jumping on Discord would be the better bet for you.

Thanks for the positive comments guys. For the time being only exchanges that have chosen to add Veil of their own accord are trading. We'll have more info on exchange listings in the not-too-distant future. You can always hop onto the Discord server ( https://discord.gg/Ywyb9hs ) to keep up-to-date with trading locations and conversations in the mean time.

They shouldn't be gone - simply not yet listed in your wallet. They should appear with a rescanblockchain command in console, but if not, feel free to hop onto the Discord and someone can walk you through restoring them.

A scam would require the Veil team asking for your money for something and not delivering in return. We've not asked anyone for a single sat/cent—that's what the budget is for. There are always risks mining a new coin, and the decision to do so or not lies solely with the individual, so please do your own research, choose pools wisely, and verify the people you're speaking with before giving any potentially sensitive info (the team won't ask for such in any case).

I've not yet come across a single instance of people losing their money if following proper procedure [ie. backing up their wallet and seed, and not buying or selling wallet.dat files (leaving themselves open to being scammed)]. Yes, zerocoins have needed recovering after not being displayed in-wallet frequently, but there are commands to reacquire those. And yes, some people have forked themselves by not updating properly and lost mining/staking rewards, but those were never theirs to lose in the first place.

The launch has been bumpy, certainly, with the majority of problems being an obvious lack of GUI polish. As QA guy, I'm not proud of the state the wallet went out in and personally would have loved more time to refine it. However, the decision was made to focus on making the coin mineable and to avoid further delays. I hope you all can appreciate that efforts are underway around the clock to get the wallet to the standards everyone expects, and deliver upon everything we've stated in our objectives and more. Thanks for your patience and understanding.

Pretty much perfect. Console is found in 'Advanced Options' within Settings. It's the second tab at the top.

Thanks for helping others out DarkInventory777 and Marvell2. We appreciate it.

We're still working hard to get everything nailed down. Jan 1st US West Coast time is still the target, but beyond that we can't give a specific hour. There are still bug-fix commits to be made, testing of those commits to ensure no unforeseen side-effects, and then a Gitian build for the release version. Putting a time on that will potentially still lead to disappointment, because even if we find nothing wrong, it's still a matter of build-times. The alternative is that we push back the release and have everything ready and on standby to just 'push the button', but as people want launch today, we're making that our goal.

You'll hear more as soon as we know more in concrete terms via official channels. Thanks for your continued patience and understanding.

Hop onto the Discord https://discord.gg/Ywyb9hs and have a chat. Much easier for someone to field questions on this there.

Happy New Year!

As we've opened testing to public, we're getting a lot of feedback on bugs for various OS/system configurations—we only have what hardware is available to us plus virtual machines, so this kind of feedback is really important. While most of these are small there have been some bigger bugs to squash. We're doing all we can to have things ready to go by Jan 1, but we'd hate to leave some people out in the cold for launch because Veil isn't agreeing with their hardware or OS. We'll of course be letting everyone know as soon as we do if a further delay is necessary.

Let's pretend what you've boiled it down to here was accurate. Avoiding a premine alone would greatly benefit the health of the currency by avoiding a swathe of the coin supply being staked from day one. That's already a big difference.

We have asked nothing from anyone externally. If you choose to mine or stake is completely up to you, and the chain will reward that. If you choose to contribute otherwise, the bounty system will reward that. That freedom to develop the product, and as a result, price, is what we're aiming for. But it costs money, and that expenditure benefits not just the team, but everyone.

If you think a premine or an ico is a more reasonable way to start a project you're welcome to that opinion, but try to remember that we as a team have already put our money and time where our mouths are throughout developing this project over many long months. As things stand, it's considerable insurance for you, the users, that we're not going to exit-scam on raised ico funds, or dump a premine and move on. I hope you might come to appreciate that in time.

I don't know that this reply will change your mind, but all the same thanks for your feedback—we appreciate it. Keep your eyes peeled for more on the budget and other info in the near future.
Cheers

This has been a factor in the decision to delay. Keep your eyes peeled for more info soon.

Sorry about the delay, and thanks for understanding. We definitely appreciate all the feedback shared in this thread, on Discord, and via social media—I hope it's obvious by our responses and decision to delay to better improve things for miners come launch.

Please don't hesitate to ask questions, or share opinions and feedback as it's all being read and considered carefully, even if sometimes we can't offer the answers you want to hear.
Thanks for the patience, and hope you're all as keen as we are.

There are two other pools we're involved in setting up that we'll give info on soon (via Discord and social media). Otherwise additional pools will be community-run. I can't give a number on these though at this point, but some hosts of these have initiated contact through Discord if you want to chase them up.

Sorry to see you feel this way. Allow me to address your concerns anyhow:

Several pools will be available initially, though these are not all official (i.e. run by Veil). You can find info on hosts through this thread or on Discord about other pools.

Why 25% of the reward to miners? If you're assuming it's 25%/25% to miners/stakers that's inaccurate, as mining is greatly favoured during the hybrid phase. 50% of the reward does not go to the dev team. That 50% is split between R&D, reimbursing the initial project development and launch costs (as there was no ico and will be no premine), funding bounties, getting on exchanges, and finally team and operational costs. You're right there are plenty of projects running without that 50%, but those have had icos, premines, or started with blue ocean advantages. As we see it, there is absolutely no point giving more to miners (they already get the lion's share) of rewards if said rewards have no hope of gaining in value.

To add to what Veilgets has already said, we hope to have some info on performance for various GPUs available in the not too distant future also. We'll do all we can to make the mining process as accessible to people as can be.

Good question. We hope to have more information on mining together and ready to share soon, so please keep your eyes peeled.