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digging up this old threat, just wanted to reaffirm everyone thinking about avoiding bybit. I have been having a terrible experience with them from the get-go. first of all the verification process is invasive as hell, then once you are verified and you don't use their service they way they would like to (i.e. leaving funds on their exchange, keeping open positions, not using stable coins vs. converting to btc) - long story short, they now locked about $500 of mine in btc, and when trying to withdraw it, they either want facial recognition, or they lock it completely if you try too many times, then they tell you they send you an email requiring more verification (mind you, already lvl2 verified account) and the email never arrives. I think bybit at this point is a shitshow, there are better alternatives, but they ask more fees or you have more slippage. not being bothered by silly requests comes at a price it seems. stay away from bybit unless you don't mind getting nagged to death with every step on the way. bybit is dead for anyone serious about crypto. this whole KYC thing is a fiasco waiting to happen in itself, on a long enough timeline, they will lose any and all data ever collected, and then there is no more such thing as identity at all. anyone sending them real data about yourself, and not trying to cheat the system makes a huge mistake in my opinion, don't make the same mistake I did, just forget about bybit. absolute horror shitshow. also support is completely overwhelmed, first time I had issues was a month ago, and they still did not reply to my support ticket. stay away.
oh, and don't try to cancel a pending btc transfer, or the whole ordeal starts anew. crypto has become a privacy-meme with companies like these. I can't wait for them to want to install a bybit certified webcam in your living room, so they can comply with klaus schwabs KYC requirements. absolutely f them.
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something moved along, suddenly the withdrawal shows as "processed" - I can not say it's a scam anymore, the funds arrived, late but they arrived, I'll let this here for others to see there was a disruption with my experience, my brother was ecstatic but I still need to find a way how to tell him that I destroyed my trezor in anger about this whole thing. then I got drunk with friends and my best friend had the genius idea to let go and burn the seed of my trading wallet, so one day I would not have to worry about taxes and whatnot. this was a stupid idea, he's stupid, and we were drunk... we ceremoniously burnt the seed to my wallet. I can see the funds in my account but I can't spend them anymore...
moral of the story: long time bitcoiner messes up by trusting small chinese trading company which clearly seemed to have ran away with a substantial amount of money, then it magically returns into a wallet I can't access anymore.
meh. don't be like me, just hodl, don't traed.
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yeah well it's way past 24 hours so far, my suspicion they decided to get the email system back online to (likely) allow new registrations to take their money is solidifying. the withdrawal status says "waiting", will wait maybe a week, but after that it's safe to say it's one shitshow of a scam and needs to go offline asap, and everyone needs to be warned about it as well.
EDIT: so about a week later, no mails from support, no inquiries, no nothing, funds are stuck, I can watch them on the exchange, withdrawal says "waiting" I guess I can wait til xmas lol - so likely a total scam exchange, stay the F away from this everyone. if I ever get my funds back I'll let everyone know here. I am open for debt purchase offers at a discount now, others shall deal with those criminals. how does debt purchase work? well if you know the thieves personally, and you got good "convincing" skills, you can get 20BTC for the price of say 15BTC. you will get both accounts worth 10BTC each, then you deal with the enforcement yourself, not my business anymore. let me know via PM.
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::update::
so today I decided to give it another try and attempt another withdrawal, and lo and behold, email system is back(!), and my email accounts even showed me countless delivered codes from each and every withdrawal attempt, so maybe there was actually some infrastructure disruption, maybe part of klaus schwab's cyber polygon, who knows.
anyways, I tried to do one withdrawal again, and the process worked like on other platforms, no bells and whistles, even got email confirmation that a withdrawal to specified address is being processed. so I am currently waiting for the predicted 24h period to pass, to see if any excuses or technical nuisances will get thrown my way..
again, my initial post pointed out that the exchange was rather sleek and polished, so if this goes through smoothly, I will might actually recommend the platform, as I can not exclude external factors for the disturbances so far. I will let you know.
just wait for my confirmation for everything having worked out ok before attempting to do business with them.
if it's really a scam, they probably re-activated the email system to lure in new traders, while they might want to feed me excuses like other threads on here have suggested (which have not been ultimately proven beyond any doubt) - if this thing isn't solved (aka. btc transactions done) in 24 hours, chances are 99% this thing is sketchy a.f. / not legit. not having heard from support isn't a good sign in this regard either, as I wrote them before and they have not responded so far.
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What happened: being a successful but privacy-minded trader, I kept hopping derivative exchanges when eventually all would introduce KYC requirements.. of course my beloved brother got wind of my success, and he asked me to copy-trade my trades on his funds on a separate account. so I did. so we went from bitmex to bybit and made nice gains over the years, then when bybit didn't let us withdraw more than 2btc, we needed to look out for new exchanges, luckily basefex seemed legit enough to try, so I did check it out, and it seemed and still seems great, fast, secure, good reviews, looked super professional, volume was low, but that was not enough of a red flag to deter me, nor my brother who trusts my judgement (cause it made him good money I guess). so I made two accounts, and I basically copied the trades, did one long, a limit order, no shenanigans or tricks. it filled rather quickly albeit low volume. this was some time ago. So I had transferred about 8 BTC per account to cover the 500k position on each account, and when when price went close to 50k recently, I tried to take some money off the table, cause I was expecting the market to rise further and there was already more than enough in it. long story short, around Aug 10 I received the last promotional mail (or any mail for that matter) from basefex.com - I tried withdrawing a small amount and kept hitting "resend" for the email confirmation code, but the system would not send any withdrawal confirmation request code. I tried it with the account I manage for my brother, no luck there either, no mails. failed attempts to contact support or attempts to create another account made me realize the whole email system is either down or the exchange is trying to exit-scam / pull the rug.today I decided to close our longs, and both accounts now hold roughly 10BTC, a lot of money for me an my bro.. anyways, there currently seems to be no way of either - withdrawing
- signing up
- getting responses from the team via email
- getting hold of the team on twitter (account got suspended sometime in the past, had not checked prior)
- getting hold of the team founder CEO and whatnot on linkedn (profiles hidden)
- getting hold of support or responses on their telegram channel
so today I decided to write two mails to support, urging basefex to manually withdraw our funds to a specified address for each account. I will likely post a copy of the mails in here without the addresses for privacy reasons. as it stands now, I have to assume this is a fraudulent rug-pull and scam attempt by the exchange. they might have just walked away with our money. this accusasion remains intact, until I either get email reponse to my inquiry, or basefex chimes in to defend against this accusation. until this happens: STAY THE F. AWAY FROM BASEFEX.COM. YOU CAN'T WITHDRAW and they likely STOLE a lot of money.Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2549992Reference Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5171514.0https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5356102Amount Scammed: 20.3962 BTC Payment Method: Bitcoin Proof of Payment: will follow in case BaseFEX disputes this accusation - for reasons of privacy this will not happen right now. PM/Chat Logs: none so far, exchange has not communicated at all, email-system seems down or this is a rug-pull-scam. no comms so far. - if exchange representative disputes my accusations, or calls me a liar, I will post proof of my side of communication attempts. for privacy reasons I will not post this right away. Additional Notes: if someone steals your money, make sure he pays back by whatever means necessary. if you are not willing to go this length, then don't trust any exchange with amounts in this example, and hold your BTC in cold storage which is way safer than trading anyways. I gained and lost a lot of money in the past, as trading is more like a past-time hobby of mine that turned profitable cause I usually spot macro-trends quite well. I usually also never get scammed. crypto is a minefield though, and I am still confident I can get back the money for me and my brother. should this thing not resolve and turn out into the worst case (confirmation it was a scam/rug-pull) I will likely sell the debt to anyone interested, maybe even at a discount. I don't care how anyone collects what they owe them at that point, but if those people stole from me and my brother, they will pay one way or another. we won't leave it at karma, not in this timeline. I hope everyone learns something from this. will keep everyone updated and truly hope the basefex representatives chime in here to quickly solve this issue pronto. will also answer questions to forum members if anything is unclear or anyone is just curious. @BaseFEX: you can PM me if you want to save face, you can also publicly answer to my accusations or via the two mails I sent you (of which I have proof of having sent them to you of course). edit: felt a little bad for not providing any proof for the reasons mentioned, so here at least some heavy evidence so far as a starter.. yea this is real.. https://imgur.com/660xo2hedit2 9/10/21: watch newest post of mine, oh the tragedy.. topic now locked - solved - is basefex a scam? well I got my money back, late, very late. still no support answering though Oo - my money is gone though, for other reasons, see newest post...
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thanks for the effort @potatochips - I could not get hold of them on linkedn @omegastarscream - it says they are not part of my network, can't even see clear names nor message them or browse their profiles. we do already know their names don't we though?
wondering when would be a good time to do a new scam accusation thread so other people clearly avoid this experience - at this point I hope it is just a technical issue though, otherwise I might have lost a substantial amount of btc to, well, a honeypot scam trap..
it's funny watching paper gains though on a seemingly working exchange and know all this might be gone..?
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yeah, weird, I read all the accusations so far, seems like most of them are solved, some people tried to take advantage of this rather new low volume exchange in its beginnings, others seem to not have posted bitcoin tx IDs for their accusations - all in all it's hard to tell, then one mentioned the exchange is probably filling trades with their own money, which would be ludicrous, as if it goes wrong, they may end up bankrupt before the exchange really takes off..
will try to contact them in the following days, anyways I took all kinds of screenshots and proof of my assets there, and I only did 1 trade which got filled (a long) then barely even visited the site. I just went there cause bybit introduced kyc and I don't need that, basically just opened the same size position. if it's all gone, I know some people who can "investigate" and get back what they owe, but no rush so far.
it's funny cause the website itself and the trading engine seems a-ok, it's quick, lean, lots of security features including 2fa, what more could you want. but then if they provide liquidity out of their own pockets, meh, could end bad in a low liquidity environment. bad for whom though?
will keep you folks updated.. I'd be curious if others face the same problems with emails/codes/withdrawals or registrations. if this applies to everyone, exchange is probably dead or something went wrong recently, but no word from support is way suspicious, they can of course comment in here anytime though..
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hi there,
I just tried to create a new account on basefex.com because I was having problems with an older one partially withdrawing some btc - I did not get any email code required to withdraw, so maybe the email system is broken - so I tried to create a new account and well, no email code has been sent to the new email either.
does anyone have more experience with this exchange? I did a few trades on it cause the "no-kyc" sounded compelling - I hope my funds are not stuck/lost now. looks like their twitter account got suspended and they have not been very active on here - what's the best way to get in touch with them? I sent them an email a couple hours ago but no response yet.
will let you know if/when the email issues got solved - curious to hear about any other traders with this exchange to chime in.
should I be worried this to be a rug-pull? website is super functional and fast, merely the email system does not work it seems. again, can't create a new account, nor withdraw from another one like this.
TLDR: can't withdraw or register cause their email system seems to be down
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this also happen to me i already have an like 0.09 in my account it is new. well i deposit it from the exchanger, but the problem is after creating my new account the withdrawal limit there is 0 btc, there is no 0.025 in unverified account it should have 0.025btc withdrawal per day right, my account doesn't have, something is going on in this exchanger.
I bet this is not ok legally, well screw it, I am in the same trap right now and I will not give them my personal information unless alongside a lawsuit which will cost them lots and lots of users. once users clearly get presented with the fact that - unless you strip naked in terms of privacy - you will be prevented from access to ALL OF YOUR deposits there. I expect them to change this and point it out very clearly on their website, especially on the "generate address" and "deposit" -related pages. I already contacted a law-firm and explained what the problem about all this really is. edit: wait a minute, my account is new too, does that mean after waiting 24hrs I will be at least be able to withdraw small amounts? maybe it is too soon to sound the war horn - I'll keep you updated in 24hrs |
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this is wiggly wobbly BS - none of these articles clearly point the exact case when you can not withdraw ANY funds. which is a reality if you don't strip naked in terms of anonymity at least to some degree, which is not ok for crypto. and it is especially NOT OK to accept ANY deposits or let users generate ANY addresses for deposits, unless the fact that you can not withdraw ANYthing unless you get verified, gets pointed out CLEARLY and most visibly on the page. otherwise this exchange is a trap for user funds. you can send crypto there, but you'll get extorted into forfeiting your anonymity if you want it back. basically they take your money without asking who you are, but they won't give it back without demanding an answer. ASK the question BEFORE accepting deposits. ffs this makes me so mad. this is fraud and I will let lawyers decide if this is ok, currently they hold some of my funds hostage to this trickery too. (but it is a new account, so maybe I will see some other options in 24hrs) |
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is there a reason the BTC source address must be the same as the one specified in "Personal bitcoin address" as long as they are both part of the same HD seed? I just figured that you can not spend specific addresses in multibit HD (you can in electrum afaik) so if one creates an address in multibit HD, you are being presented one of your addresses, but you can not spend from this adress unless you load some BTC to exactly this address, can one not just send from any other address? might be a little confusing, just trying to figure out the idea behind this  |
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what exactly is the problem with multibit? I have multibit HD and quite like it, I can swap it over to electrum with my seed without any problems, do you still not recommend sending funds from a multibit (HD) address? I mean, I thought the only requirement is to control the private keys, a trezor does that, right?
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hey, how can I join your slack, who to ask for an invite? thx
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thanks guys, all coins there  - I was quite absent to the whole crypto community for about 2 months, found out my smartcoins are worth 15$ but hey, they always tell you only invest what you can afford to lose so - still believe in the name though, and I like the logo, stay smart, carry on oh and I will be part of it as promised, just I still have financial problems, unectectedly...damn lawyers and justice system...takes so long... |
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uhm, I am a bit a noob, I hade some SMC in my windows wallet before the fork, are they lost?
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is it possible to change some parameters of the coin, or even the algorythm? this coin, even if now it looks bleak, has much potential, and if only by it's name, now if that gets coupled with asic resistance and some other very smart parameters yet to be found or discussed on, it will be THE coin, I still believe in it and bought another 10k
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lots of work ahead - the osx wallet is still crashing though on my mavericks OS, here is the code again: Process: SmartCoin-Qt [8355]
Path: /Applications/SmartCoin-Qt.app/Contents/MacOS/SmartCoin-Qt
Identifier: com.yourcompany.SmartCoin-Qt
Version: ???
Code Type: X86-64 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [185]
Responsible: SmartCoin-Qt [8355]
User ID: 501
Date/Time: 2014-03-23 19:44:02.748 +0100
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.9.2 (13C64)
Report Version: 11
Anonymous UUID: AA3BE15D-6FD1-C358-D6D7-9201645AAF35
Sleep/Wake UUID: D75D537D-8C20-4CDE-808B-33400DBB67D2
Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
Exception Type: EXC_BAD_INSTRUCTION (SIGILL)
Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000001, 0x0000000000000000
Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0 libdb_cxx-4.8.dylib 0x000000010c406296 __env_attach + 558
1 libdb_cxx-4.8.dylib 0x000000010c403ebe __env_attach_regions + 212
2 libdb_cxx-4.8.dylib 0x000000010c40381d __env_open + 228
3 libdb_cxx-4.8.dylib 0x000000010c341b0f DbEnv::open(char const*, unsigned int, int) + 71
4 com.yourcompany.SmartCoin-Qt 0x000000010ba7994f CDBEnv::Open(boost::filesystem::path) + 751
5 com.yourcompany.SmartCoin-Qt 0x000000010ba79e4d CDB::CDB(char const*, char const*) + 221
6 com.yourcompany.SmartCoin-Qt 0x000000010b9ffad9 LoadBlockIndex(bool) + 217
7 com.yourcompany.SmartCoin-Qt 0x000000010ba4dbdc AppInit2() + 18716
8 com.yourcompany.SmartCoin-Qt 0x000000010b9842e0 main + 3408
9 com.yourcompany.SmartCoin-Qt 0x000000010b983064 start + 52
Thread 1:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff966a3e6a __workq_kernreturn + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff94079f08 _pthread_wqthread + 330
2 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff9407cfb9 start_wqthread + 13
Thread 2:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.libdispatch-manager
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff966a4662 kevent64 + 10
1 libdispatch.dylib 0x00007fff8c06d43d _dispatch_mgr_invoke + 239
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Thread 3:
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1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff94079f08 _pthread_wqthread + 330
2 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff9407cfb9 start_wqthread + 13
Thread 4:
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1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff94079f08 _pthread_wqthread + 330
2 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff9407cfb9 start_wqthread + 13
Thread 5:
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1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff9669ed18 mach_msg + 64
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff954c7155 __CFRunLoopServiceMachPort + 181
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff954c6779 __CFRunLoopRun + 1161
4 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff954c60b5 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 309
5 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff90b4c16e _NSEventThread + 144
6 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff94078899 _pthread_body + 138
7 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff9407872a _pthread_start + 137
8 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff9407cfc9 thread_start + 13
Thread 6:: QThread
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff966a39aa __select + 10
1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff966a1be8 select + 69
2 QtCore 0x000000010d044500 qt_safe_select(int, fd_set*, fd_set*, fd_set*, timeval const*) + 282
3 QtCore 0x000000010d0472b5 QEventDispatcherUNIXPrivate::doSelect(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>, timeval*) + 789
4 QtCore 0x000000010d0485eb QEventDispatcherUNIX::processEvents(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) + 341
5 QtCore 0x000000010d01da6f QEventLoop::processEvents(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) + 79
6 QtCore 0x000000010d01dbd2 QEventLoop::exec(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) + 346
7 QtCore 0x000000010cf4495b QThread::exec() + 229
8 QtCore 0x000000010cf461e4 0x10cf26000 + 131556
9 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff94078899 _pthread_body + 138
10 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff9407872a _pthread_start + 137
11 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff9407cfc9 thread_start + 13
Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (64-bit):
rax: 0x00007fbe450503e0 rbx: 0x0000000000000001 rcx: 0x0065746176697270 rdx: 0x0000000000000000
rdi: 0x00007fbe450066e0 rsi: 0x000000010c448050 rbp: 0x00007fff54280ba0 rsp: 0x00007fff54280a90
r8: 0x0000000000000004 r9: 0x00007fbe45000000 r10: 0x00000000076cbcb1 r11: 0x00007fbd38bbe690
r12: 0x0000000000000000 r13: 0x0000000000000001 r14: 0x00007fbe44800a00 r15: 0x00007fbe42f005f0
rip: 0x000000010c406296 rfl: 0x0000000000010202 cr2: 0x000000010c448040
Logical CPU: 0
Error Code: 0x00000000
Trap Number: 6
Binary Images:
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External Modification Summary:
Calls made by other processes targeting this process:
task_for_pid: 1
thread_create: 0
thread_set_state: 0
Calls made by this process:
task_for_pid: 0
thread_create: 0
thread_set_state: 0
Calls made by all processes on this machine:
task_for_pid: 68120
thread_create: 2
thread_set_state: 0
VM Region Summary:
ReadOnly portion of Libraries: Total=183.8M resident=129.9M(71%) swapped_out_or_unallocated=53.9M(29%)
Writable regions: Total=74.3M written=4516K(6%) resident=8176K(11%) swapped_out=13.4M(18%) unallocated=66.3M(89%)
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CG backing stores 308K
CG shared images 204K
CoreServices 76K
Dispatch continuations 8192K
Kernel Alloc Once 8K
MALLOC 38.3M
MALLOC (admin) 32K
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Stack 10.6M
VM_ALLOCATE 16.3M
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Model: MacBookPro6,2, BootROM MBP61.0057.B0F, 2 processors, Intel Core i7, 2.66 GHz, 8 GB, SMC 1.58f17
Graphics: Intel HD Graphics, Intel HD Graphics, Built-In, 288 MB
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M, NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M, PCIe, 512 MB
Memory Module: BANK 0/DIMM0, 4 GB, DDR3, 1067 MHz, 0x80CE, 0x4D34373142353237334248312D4346382020
Memory Module: BANK 1/DIMM0, 4 GB, DDR3, 1067 MHz, 0x80CE, 0x4D34373142353237334248312D4346382020
AirPort: spairport_wireless_card_type_airport_extreme (0x14E4, 0x93), Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (5.106.98.100.22)
Bluetooth: Version 4.2.3f10 13477, 3 services, 23 devices, 1 incoming serial ports
Network Service: Wi-Fi, AirPort, en1
Network Service: Ethernet, Ethernet, en0
Serial ATA Device: M4-CT256M4SSD2, 256,06 GB
Serial ATA Device: ST1000LM024 HN-M101MBB, 1 TB
USB Device: Hub
USB Device: USB to Serial-ATA bridge
USB Device: Internal Memory Card Reader
USB Device: BRCM2070 Hub
USB Device: Bluetooth USB Host Controller
USB Device: Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad
USB Device: Hub
USB Device: USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse
USB Device: IR Receiver
USB Device: Built-in iSight
Thunderbolt Bus:
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Also could anyone edit together a video promoting Smartcoin? and mention how bitcoin blew up etc for people who don't yet know about cryptocurrency's I may be able to get it seen by a good few thousand people.. let me know.
I will do this definitely when I get the time! - I am still fed up with some annoying stuff in life, but when that's done I will help with my creativity. I believe in smartcoins and cryptos general. I do music for commercials, and in 2008 worked myself into sony vegas, which made some nice results, check this out, anyways, there will be promotion, if you got the channels, I got the content. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riNeQbxM1gE&list=UUla7XbNvoQTq6q88L6gKgYwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLW_kg4Ambs&list=UUla7XbNvoQTq6q88L6gKgYwoc my music skills were pretty much a joke back then  - not to talk about the video, anyways it was quite nice... today I am thinking more dubstep and DnB with some wicked vocals of course... |
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can someone give me an in depth explanation what is happening with this coin? ok I got it, multipools jumped on it, there are 7 million coins around I heard, how is mining going and is it still lucrative? If it is, price will further drop because miners seem to have no soul, uhm, well looks like - anyway, can someon confirm my ideas? |
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