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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [TELE] 📲BLOCKCHAIN OPERATOR WITH TOKEN REWARDS 💰 on: October 24, 2019, 07:50:53 AM
I have 157€ transfer in pending in and 1051.91€ on HOLD till SEPTEMBER 2019  Roll Eyes
You can do with the money on hold the same as your country recently did to its only aviation company…

https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/adria-airways-collapse-flight-grounded-passengers-cancelled-bankrupt-a9127366.html

… Kiss it goodbye, forever.
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [TELE] 📲BLOCKCHAIN OPERATOR WITH TOKEN REWARDS 💰 on: October 22, 2019, 08:21:00 AM


Does the team have no right to own account?

Sure they do, they also have the right to...

"You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You have the right to an attorney."


Yes, they have many rights, and they will have these rights read to them in the upcoming years in many different languages...
... if they live long enough.

As it turned out, these Slovak-Russian morons attracted some shadowy figures with their "business" idea.

This is nothing new, cryptocurrencies are infamous for money laundering and similar, but these European assholes stroke the mother-load of dark money.

Records from the bank (Caixabank, S.A. in Spain) which Telemiracle used, show an interesting amount of transfers under 1000 euros, which is the magic border (to prevent money laundering) for the banks to request/demand ID from the customers which want to do such a transfer.

Lots of dark money went into Telemiracle and the organizations which paid it in, expect not only their money back but also the promised profit, following a simple rule:

"We prefer broken bones over broken promises."

Good luck, Telemiracle, you will need a real miracle to get out of this one.
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [TELE] 📲BLOCKCHAIN OPERATOR WITH TOKEN REWARDS 💰 on: October 18, 2019, 09:11:40 AM
No I cannot withdraw anything.... all is pending....


Want your money back? Why don't you use the Tele miracle's latest super duper project?

What, you never heard of it? How could that be? It's for Tele miracle's biggest moron customers, and God knows they have plenty of those according to how many ordered their blackmail sim cards.

Here it is:

https://www.facebook.com/MiracleTele/posts/483225939130896?comment_id=485172408936249

Okay, shitty copy paste doesn't work here, so simply go under their last post and surf through its 133 comments, among them you'll find stuff like:

"Antônio Neto MiracleTele
A successful project, I am very pleased to be part of the TELE family
I buy TELE tokens and transfer quickly, efficiently and with maximum security.…See More
2

    10w

    Miracle Tele
    Miracle Tele Antônio Neto We will transfer all your funds in Bitcoin, this is our new project,

    Step 2: Register your BTC address, or click FAQ to learn on how to use their services.

    Step 3: Invest a minimum of 0.01BTC to the deposit address that they provided.

    Step 4: Message them on support section and include your registered btc address and your Miracle tele username and email.

    They will transfer all your funds and will be payed out after 100 hours, your 0.01BTC deposit will be payed out too.

    (Copy link to your browser and Remove spaces on .x10 and .mx to get on our partner site).

    LINK: 👇
    http://bitcointrades .x10. mx/"


Some moron from Tele miracle, probably the owner, set up this bot, which answers to any post with,

"What's up bro, you transfer me the money, and I'll shit my pants over you stupid fucked-up mind from laughing."

 ...That's called a free translation.

10 weeks back, Bitcoin was like 10K, so 0,01 Bitcoin would be... $100.

Beautiful, great effort from Tele miracle scammers.

Thanks to all who alerted us to this, Agencies and the police had no idea about it... now they do.
4  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Miracle Tele Is a Scam Stay Away on: September 25, 2019, 07:35:49 AM
No payment from 11th of September all payments are PENDING -
To Bitcoin and also wire....   Angry

They're likely running out of funds to pay you guys.

On top of that, I heard they're blacklisting tokens from forkdelta/etherdelta because lots of people are buying cheap tokens over there, which cause their token sale did not run as expected.


The part about blacklisting tokens is true and correct; why should they pay interest for something that was not bought through their system? It goes against any logic of any business on this planet.

The part:

Just imagine how can they sustain a business where most users are staking and don’t generate new revenues.

It’s the opposite, you forgot that they offered to pay the bi-weekly rewards through the profit made of their mobile services, and that is according to any website that researched their business A FREAKING GOLDEN GOOSE.

Here’s where Miracletele screwed up big time:

According to this

https://icomaking.com/how-many-people-own-cryptocurrency/

There’re 153 million addresses belonging to users in BTC base system.

Of course, some of them use multiple accounts, and so on, but okay, let’s say there’re 120 million of them, that is less than 0,0??% of 7,53 billion people on this planet.

According to this:

https://www.bankmycell.com/blog/how-many-phones-are-in-the-world

“there are now over 5.13 Billion people with mobile devices worldwide– This means that 66.53% of the world’s population has a mobile device.”

This is miracletele’s target audience!

Not this shit bullshit “There’re 153 million addresses belonging to users in BTC base system.”

These 153 million mean nothing. They’re mostly oriented to make quick bucks or avoid government surveillance.

The sad truth about Miracletele is that they had a cemented golden opportunity to turn their project into a triple million profit yearly, easily...

...If they did their homework, instead of sitting on their asses for a year and dreaming about a… miracle.

This is what awaits them if they don’t fix their game:

https://techcrunch.com/2019/06/04/sec-expands-its-war-on-cryptocurrency-companies-with-a-lawsuit-against-kik/

The war against crypto scams is spreading all over the world at a rapid pace.

It does not matter if you from Nigeria, Russia, or The planet of the apes. If you scam your investors, you will feel the heat and end up in jail.
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [TELE] 📲BLOCKCHAIN OPERATOR WITH TOKEN REWARDS 💰 on: September 24, 2019, 07:09:37 AM


now I'm on long hodl here, maybe they will gain some decent value, you never know...

Whoever reads this:

"The company is ready to sign an individual partnership agreement. Investments from 10k EUR - by purchasing tokens on individual terms, with an exclusive REWARD RATE:
 from 10k to 20k eur = 10% monthly
 from 20k to 50k eur = 13% monthly
 from 50k to 150k eur = 15% monthly”


Will as the first hit Google with "miracletele" in the search window and come up with the following

Okay, so copy paste doesn't work here, nice.

It's simple, go to google and enter "miracletele" in search window and you will see the automated - most searched options in the previous weeks/months.
 
See what's under second hit – »SCAM.«

It wasn't there four months back. It got there because Google uses an algorithm, learns through its users' search patterns.

The reason why "SCAM" is now number two is because of tens of thousands of searches related to miracletele and SCAM, searches executed by their investors and… all the others who prepare for what is about to come if miracletele does not fix their game.

They came a long way, from, »we got hacked, to the African scam, and yesterday to… our no-brain bosses miscalculated the whole thing.«

One thing they forgot to mention (as many of you noticed and never dared to ask, or if you did you got banned from telegram) is the scam-game on their website related to their bi-weekly rewards.

Whenever their token sale dropped, the bi-weekly reward started to rise… € 2,20 – 2,40 – 2,60… all the way to 3,20€, when the purchase of their tokens went haywire and the next day, their bi-weekly reward dropped to the »regular« € 2,00.

This repeatedly happened through months, was obviously pre-planned. Things like this usually end up with:

https://www.classlawgroup.com/consumer-protection/false-advertising/laws/

it would be nice if guys behind miracletele stop lying to their investors and start promoting their business as they should've done from day one.

They have a product, they only need to bring it to the millions out there.
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [TELE] 📲BLOCKCHAIN OPERATOR WITH TOKEN REWARDS 💰 on: September 23, 2019, 01:25:02 PM
Just received this mail:

Quote
Dear community,


what do you think?

Well, at least he sounds honest.
And he also goes against his own logic.
 
The company needs partners - profit is growing, we need momentum!
 
If the profit is growing, then you don’t need more money, what you need is people with high IQ to advance the momentum!
 
As we informed you earlier, the previous management department under the leadership of the former CEO Andrei Burchik miscalculated the development model and did not take into account the fact that not all of our users constantly use communication services.
 
This is as honest as any of them got so far.

Okay, so now you, the investors, know you dealt with complete morons.

These kangaroo-monkeys actually build up their system on the premise that anyone who would purchase their tokens would also use their phone services…?

How stupid is that?

Ico’s main objective is

1 – that the company which issues the tokens gathers the needed funds for finishing their project aka turning it into a success story.

2- for the investors to get as high revenue from their purchased tokens as possible.

Not to use the investors to use the product they’re trying to put on the market.

Jesus fucking kangaroo, this is the reason why so many (9 out of 10) ICO end in disaster because they’re lead by complete brain diarrheas'.

The good news is, as it seems now they have someone on board who has at least the basic knowledge of how to run a business.

The bad news is that it might be too late. The bad rap the company got all over the Internet, the attention they already triggered by certain (don’t ask me which and where) government agencies for their behavior will make it x-times harder to get any new funds.

The idea with Israeli company Spikko Telecom is a sign of working brain of Mr. Golod.

Here’s my idea, why don’t you offer free numbers and phone calls to the biggest in the biz, like Uber, airports, shipping, train, bus companies, travel agencies, hotels… anyone who offers its services all over the world.

Free numbers and free phone calls in exchange for free Miracletele commercials on their platforms.

Have you any idea, how many customers miracletele could get alone through Uber if they managed to sign a deal with them?
And there’re hundreds of companies with millions of daily customers, which need reliable worldwide phone service.

Okay, a question for you… how much did you invest in this hole called miracletele to receive this email?

I’m following a couple of accounts of users who already plan to take action against miracletele if they, as we used to say, hit the road like a roadrunner… and none of them got this email.

Just wondering, you know.
7  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Miracle Tele Is a Scam Stay Away on: September 23, 2019, 12:59:36 PM
got my famous sim card, but i cant activate it, what a joke...
unbranded a white blank plastic card








nothing tried everything you wrote but it's doesn't work, to save an APN you need at least an MMC number that i don't know what to write on


Did you mean the

Mobile Network Code (MNC): A two-digit code that represents the SIM card’s home network. Mobile Subscriber Identification Number (MSIN): A unique ten-digit identifying number that identifies the specific subscriber to the GSM network.

You can’t get that before you pick one from their website – I’m just guessing here, I never did it, and God almighty help those who end up doing this.

According to the old system for the card set-up, one should add a new APN with indicating:

“miracletele-com”

in the APN field, that’s all, that should do the trick unless they’ve changed something… which I cannot know.

Then you activate it through miracletele website and your member’s area.

Then you get a number through the miracletele.com/sim/
 
If nothing works write to their support email and pray that someone answers… don’t expect any wonders, just pray.
8  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Miracle Tele Is a Scam Stay Away on: September 21, 2019, 01:50:25 PM
got my famous sim card, but i cant activate it, what a joke...
unbranded a white blank plastic card



Did you follow the instructions for the card's activation?

You must somehow link it to their website and your account.

No idea how that goes, I'm just repeating something a kangaroo forwarded me.

https://www.facebook.com/MiracleTele/posts/its-really-easy-to-use-miracle-tele-sim-card-and-the-only-thing-you-need-to-do-t/305017976951694/

Or step by step:

Connect your device to wifi – enter phone settings – go to mobile networks and add a new APN indicating miracletele.com in the APN field.

Activation – login to your account on miracletele.com click on activate Simcard in your member area and follow the instructions.

Get a number - https://miracletele.com/operator/

And pray to God you don't pick one of those numbers that'll cost you 15€ or more per month.

Ups there's also a fee for the activation of your phone number – 6€.

Yep, it suddenly doesn't look so cheap anymore, doesn't it?
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [TELE] 📲BLOCKCHAIN OPERATOR WITH TOKEN REWARDS 💰 on: September 19, 2019, 04:43:23 AM
I've got about 200 tokens, received from stacking airdrop tokens and converting profit to tokens.
Can I do something with them ? I cant stack them, neither I can sell them or withdraw...

They will never go free with this.

There’s a lot one can do:

https://www.quora.com/?digest_story=167851443
 
Some of them are allegedly from Russia? Great, Russia has the worst prisons in the world.
 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisons_in_Russia
 
If they ever end up in it, they will beg to be transferred to Guantanamo.

10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [TELE] 📲BLOCKCHAIN OPERATOR WITH TOKEN REWARDS 💰 on: September 19, 2019, 04:41:10 AM
I've got about 200 tokens, received from stacking airdrop tokens and converting profit to tokens.
Can I do something with them ? I cant stack them, neither I can sell them or withdraw...

They will never go free with this.

There’s a lot one can do:

https://www.quora.com/
 
Some of them are allegedly from Russia? Great, Russia has the worst prisons in the world.
 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisons_in_Russia
 
If they ever end up in it, they will beg to be transferred to Guantanamo.
11  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Miracle Tele Is a Scam Stay Away on: September 19, 2019, 04:35:05 AM
http://prntscr.com/p7szbj
yesterday i send an email in spanish and in less than an hour i get an answer.
yesterday also i asked about frozen withdrawalls and no one has answer me.
the sim card is linked
http://prntscr.com/p7t10p

Stalling is the name of the game.

The longer they keep up this, the more dodo-ducks will buy their sim-cards, get into their system, pour more money to their accounts.

For those of you who never dealt with ICO’s, here’s how deep a scam can go when one takes its time to set up a fake business:

https://www.quora.com/

Yep, they have it all, working tool/product, debit cards, official celebs who promoted their business.

"Notably, $32 million Centra Tech garnered celebrity support (most famously from DJ Khaled), but was exposed for ICO fraud back in April of 2018, according to Fortune. The company was sued for misleading investors and lying about products, among other fraudulent activities.”

Read it, every line, and among it, you will find, the MiracleTele model.
12  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Miracle Tele Is a Scam Stay Away on: September 18, 2019, 08:06:57 AM

i am thinking on starting legal actions as stated above.

Wait or don't wait, that is the question.

Whatever you do, do not make a move – contact anyone at Miracletele, before you do the following:
Decide if you wanna do this alone or join a class action lawsuit.

Unless you're a millionaire (in which case you will ignore anything I wrote, since you already have a lawyer) you should get more guns on board, in other words, contact Miracletele users on Telegram, and this forum, especially those from your country, but also others.

Start gathering evidence, screenshots from your accounts, download PDF-s of your payments, anything that is available on their website, and there are tons of data your lawyer and court will be happy to use.
In yesterday's email, Miracletele for the first time officially ADMITTED EXECUTING THEIR BLACKMAIL, by sending out sim-cards in THOUSANDS to their users. Great news for any court or judge, because Miracletele no longer can pledge »a single mistake, a glitch in the system.«

They did it, it is criminal, and the reward/punishment is jail.

However, your goal is to get your money, I presume. Therefore your should do what you lawyer advises you, which, I presume will be to contact Miracletele once you have all the evidence against them collected.

Make sure you do this through an email they don't know it is yours or in any way connected to your Miracletele account (to avoid erasing your data from their website.)

Search for financial police/Internet fraud department in your country; they might have different names, but each country has them.

Once you have all this gathered you, or your lawyer (or lawyers) will contact Miracletele with a simple email (not linked to your account on Miracletele), informing them they have a certain amount of time to open all of their blackmail-locked accounts of all their investors.

You can provide them the number of investors that have joined you with their data available on Miracletele website (no names, or from where they are, just a number) with the blackmail email you all have received, including their confession of executing the blackmail by receiving the payments, issuing the sim-cards. You have all this in their meails, black on white.

Why contacting Miracletele first before you go to court? Simply, because I still believe this is a work of completely incapable group of people, who are stupid enough thinking they will get away with it, having no idea what a financial blackmail is and what is its punishment.

Once they realize the power of courts, which can easily shut down their phone service if necessary in the process, they will think twice which way to take.

If you simply start a case in a court, you will get some satisfaction, but most probably also drove Miracletele into bankruptcy… others will start similar cases in their countries which will cause an avalanche against Miracletele and end in its annihilation.

If you go alone against them, they will most probably ignore you, that is the worst path when dealing with Internet-related financial crimes.

If you confront them, armed with other investors, which Miracletele blackmailed into ordering – buying – paying - and using their sim-cards by locking their money, then, you have a strong case and Miracletele only two options:

1-They can start acting as a company and open all accounts as they have promised, regardless if their investors are using their sim-cards or not, or…

2… take the legal path, which will cement their names as criminals in the history of ICOs, case, after, case – country, after country, jail sentence after jail sentence.

Take your time and don't rush it.

These guys at Miracletele might be good when it comes to dealing with telecommunication stuff, but have zero experience at what it means dealing with investors' money and legal consequences it brings if you blackmail your investors with criminal demands - as they did.
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [TELE] 📲BLOCKCHAIN OPERATOR WITH TOKEN REWARDS 💰 on: September 17, 2019, 03:22:16 PM

We checked it and their system seems to be entirely off the grid.

"Many questions are as follows: Do you plan to refuse the tokens?
My answer: we do not plan to refuse the tokens."


Which tokens, the ones that were bought through Fork delta for a fart of their original price?

If they plan to accept these tokens, if they plan to allow users to stack these tokens then… they need an urgent schedule at a psychiatrist.

If they do this, then, ’they’re literally saying to all their investors who bought their tokens through a Miracletele website at full price YOU STUPID FUCKS!!!

Allowing someone - anyone to cash in on the promised rewards with tokens that have nothing to do with the initial offer (purchase tokens through ’Miracletele’s website) is the same as spitting in the faces of all their investors who bought their tokens at full price, it means they will robe their own piggy bank until they finally die!

About:

"Due to a one-time order of several thousand cards, we were not ready to process such an order.”

This is awesome, mate. For the first time, they’re officially admitting executing their blackmail plan in the written word, and that in thousand of cases – LOVE IT!

And this one too:

“For the further successful development of this area, we need your help to buy large lots of numbers, this will reduce the cost of rent for customers by purchasing numbers in bulk.”

For the first time, they admit that their system has a hidden cost in the form of a monthly fee for the phone number, however not a word of its amount – it doesn’t matter, a scam is a scam.

This, on the other end, is again Miracletele’s low brain volume:

“Contracts with large companies using SIM cards in IoT devices will add up to several million new subscribers, which will bring a small but stable income. Since the reliability (consumed monthly traffic) of such subscribers is the highest.”

They contradict themselves in 100% percent. Millions of users who bring in the highest traffic will bring a … a small amount of profit??

How does that fit with the 40,000 users they bragged with all the time? The 40,000 users of sim-cards that enabled them to pay the bi-weekly rewards through all this time, including up to 1,4 million in the last 2-3 months before the shit hit the ceiling?

40,000 users got them the necessary 1,4 million, but millions of new users will get them only “A small but stable income??”

Seriously, Miralcetele, whoever wrote this, go and check your brains – urgently.

Reading all this one might start believing they really were so stupid to do business with a “Nigerian prince.”
14  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Miracle Tele Is a Scam Stay Away on: September 17, 2019, 07:12:36 AM
Dang I purchased the sim-card as I fell for that letter. It took me 10 Euro that I deposited to activate account. Waiting for tomorrow Undecided

https://www.hg.org/legal-articles/what-is-a-ponzi-scheme-31483

»


believed to be true they got tricked by a Nigerian Scammers.


Some of the things you wrote make sense, most of them is complete bonkers, mate.

“can’t be a ponzi scheme - a ponzi scheme is different to a mobile phone operation system”

I never wrote this is a Ponzi but a stupid-ass group of people who have no idea how to run a business.

“the people who in Africa scammed them to get the cash back - the Nigerian scammer is a well known concept…”

Yes it is a 200 year old trick:

https://www.ranker.com/list/history-of-the-nigerian-prince-scam/melissa-brinks

That’s why no one with a working brain would ever think off doing financial business in Africa, not even if you put a gun to one’s head.

The first rule in business these days is - do the background check before you sign a cheque!

If they are literate in English, a single search through Google would give them the answer – hands off Africa – period!

“probably got tricked by a Nigerian scammer or something pretending to be a government official or telecommunication owner. a common trick, they always take peoples money and get seriously rich from scamming unsuspecting victims into a scam. - a fake African Telecommunication manager who was really just living in a hut somewhere in Ghana or Nigeria, has taken them for a fortune”

Mate, seriously, what’s wrong with your brain?

Why would a company (Miracletele) which deals with a state of the art communication service, connected with blockchain, which only goal is to introduce new, cutting edge apps, go and do business in one of the most deprived, backyard, previous-century continents, which telecommunication system is famous only for

https://businesstech.co.za/news/telecommunications/291446/spam-calling-is-getting-worse-in-south-africa-its-among-the-worst-in-the-world/

And even if all that you wrote is true, even if they have been that stupid (my kangaroo wouldn’t fall for a trick like that) even with all that in mind, they have no right to:

- Ban their users and investors from their chat system on Telegram
- Lie about what goes on in their company to their investors
- Keep changing rules and lies as it fits them
- Blackmail their investors with BUY OUR SIM CARD OR KISS YOUR MONEY GOODBYE!
 
Wait, that actually does sound like a Nigeria scam. Great, you actually found something that makes sense in this fiasco they have created.

But, you’re right, it could easily be they are trying to fix the mess which they have created, which however does not give them the right to BLACKMAIL THEIR INVESTORS, the reward for such behavior is simple – JAIL!

On the other hand, they could be sitting this very moment somewhere at Black sea, sipping vodka and laughing their asses off at the stupidity of their investors who are purchasing their sim cards, pushing even more money to their secret bank accounts, while their website runs on auto-mode...

... until they one day decide to shut it down.
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [TELE] 📲BLOCKCHAIN OPERATOR WITH TOKEN REWARDS 💰 on: September 16, 2019, 06:45:18 AM

Thanks. We did not see this one – till now.
You can download it as a PDF, as you can do that with any of your transactions, rewards, payments, or withdrawals you ever made on their website.

An excellent proof for judges and courts, so use it- although using a video screen recording software could also do the trick.

You can find more about MiracleTele on this forum if you enter miracle tele in the search window.
16  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Miracle Tele Is a Scam Stay Away on: September 15, 2019, 08:07:17 AM
Dang I purchased the sim-card as I fell for that letter. It took me 10 Euro that I deposited to activate account. Waiting for tomorrow Undecided

In a way, that is good.
You now have proof that they executed their blackmail by allowing you to make such a purchase.

If they allow you to withdraw your money AFTER you activate their sim card, then, congratulations MiracleTele, you are officially a financial crime gang.

https://www.hg.org/legal-articles/what-is-a-ponzi-scheme-31483

»If you believe you have been the victim of a Ponzi scheme or pyramid scheme, or would like someone to analyze a potential investment opportunity to ensure that you do not become the victim of such a scheme, you should contact a local attorney with experience in financial and securities law. You can find a list of attorneys in your area by visiting our Law Firms page.”

Here’s what I love when dealing with international court cases, it takes only one case in whichever country on this planet to pinpoint a company as what it is. No matter if the case is ongoing, was settled outside court, or dismissed by a court, each followed-up case in any court on this planet would automatically see this as a red flag against the company since someone else already started a similar investigation.

This resembles a domino effect against the defendant – aka the accused company. Courts and judges always dig deep into the history of the company and its business, which includes every single person connected to the company before the case starts.

Make sure you keep all the data you got from MiracleTele, from emails to screenshots of your account on their website, including the one with your sim-card order. Lawyers will need every single piece of evidence.

The first-original team from MiracleTele was stupid enough to leave tons of track of their activities, which is why this more and more resembles to a hit and run of a single person than a company. Either way, the company is responsible for their actions, and the funds they received.

If they don’t get their ducks in a row, and this ends in courts, no judge, court, tribunal, or magistrate will show mercy to their made-up excuse, “dishonest partners in Africa.”

There is no such thing as Africans in the financial business. AFRICA IS A CONTINENT.

A company does not do financial business with a continent, it can only do business with a specific legal entity in a particular country.
17  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Miracle Tele Is a Scam Stay Away on: September 14, 2019, 09:00:01 AM
A reminder for all MiracleTele INVESTORS,

tomorrow is 15-9-2019, the day which an unsigned (anonymous) Miracletele’s email from Aug 28,2019 picked as:

“All current withdrawal requests have been reverted to your hold balances. After Sept 15, 2019, they will be recalculated based on the company’s actual profits and promptly paid out to you and other token holders.”


The latest email from MiracleTele from Sept 10, 2019, contradicted this with the statement:

“I am Roman Golod, the new director of the MiracleTele company I took all possible anti-crisis measures to address the debts Salaries and rewards ARE NOW PAID OFF IN A USUAL MANNER.”

The part “I took all possible anti-crisis measures to address the debts Salaries and rewards are now paid off in a usual manner” would according to our lawyer team mean that MiracleTele officially announced to pay out ALL MONEY they are holding ransom with their blackmail-email in which they demanded from you, their INVESTORS, to purchase and use their sim-cards.

In a way that is good news. The email, however, does not specify a date on which the 100% payout will be executed, is it 15.09 or 10.12.2019, the date which Mr. Golod mentioned in his writing.

Whichever date it is, it would be nice from Mr. Golod to step forward and once for all clarify – officially apologize, for the blackmail attempt (buy our sim-cards or forget your money) executed against the MiracleTele INVESTORS in the company’s email from Aug 29, 2019.
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [TELE] 📲BLOCKCHAIN OPERATOR WITH TOKEN REWARDS 💰 on: September 14, 2019, 08:41:48 AM
A reminder for all MiracleTele INVESTORS,

tomorrow is 15-9-2019, the day which an unsigned (anonymous) Miracletele’s email from Aug 28,2019 picked as:

“All current withdrawal requests have been reverted to your hold balances. After Sept 15, 2019, they will be recalculated based on the company’s actual profits and promptly paid out to you and other token holders.”


The latest email from MiracleTele from Sept 10, 2019, contradicted this with the statement:

“I am Roman Golod, the new director of the MiracleTele company I took all possible anti-crisis measures to address the debts Salaries and rewards ARE NOW PAID OFF IN A USUAL MANNER.”

The part “I took all possible anti-crisis measures to address the debts Salaries and rewards are now paid off in a usual manner” would according to our lawyer team mean that MiracleTele officially announced to pay out ALL MONEY they are holding ransom with their blackmail-email in which they demanded from you, their INVESTORS, to purchase and use their sim-cards.

In a way that is good news. The email, however, does not specify a date on which the 100% payout will be executed, is it 15.09 or 10.12.2019, the date which Mr. Golod mentioned in his writing.

Whichever date it is, it would be nice from Mr. Golod to step forward and once for all clarify – officially apologize, for the blackmail attempt (buy our sim-cards or forget your money) executed against the MiracleTele INVESTORS in the company’s email from Aug 29, 2019.
19  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Miracle Tele Is a Scam Stay Away on: September 13, 2019, 02:10:26 PM

btw do you know how i can withdraw my earnings?





You're in the same boat as all the other MiracleTele investors.

The amount of money you could withdraw is too small (I think you must have at least 10€ for a withdrawal).

The other money is waiting for MiracleTele to figure out what they will do with their mess of a company, as stated in one of their previous emails.

Purchasing their sim-card would be the most stupid thing you could do here.

Again, money is for them no problem, whatever they did, the 14+millions they got from you, their investors, and the monthly super-income from their phone customers as the extra money they're getting from monthly fees for phone numbers… and the list goes on and on; all this tells even an illiterate monkey that money is no issue for Miracletele.

MiracleTele must clear up whatever bugs they got in their heads and start operating as a company.

At the moment, MiracleTele holds your money ransom with their blackmail-email "purchase our sim-card or forget your money."

The amount you have is to small to go alone against them, you could try to find others from your country on Telegram and start a group (class action lawsuit) against MiracleTele, or even better, get yourself a pro-bono lawyer; especially the young ones, those who just started their careers are hungry for cases like this (I know, I've been there).

But all this has time. MiracleTele has an option to fix the mess caused by their behavior and decisions.
You can only sit and wait for their decision.

If it's the right one, you all might one day look back at these days with a smile on your faces and money in your pockets.

If MiracleTele makes the wrong decision, then... then the hunt is on.
20  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Miracle Tele Is a Scam Stay Away on: September 12, 2019, 07:34:43 AM
Has anyone else noticed that there are no Linkedin profiles available for half the team?  Grin

And yes, this Mr. Roman Golod is somehow connected to this story

https://icorating.com/people/roman-golod-12654/

Well, this certainly isn't the real Roman Golod.

[source: https://icobench.com/ico/miracle-tele]

No, it is a picture. Who told you that the photos on their website are the real people who stand behind the company? A five-year-old can using free software available on the net put a monkey’s face under any of their names…
… which only shows how much work awaits agencies and courts if Miracletele doesn’t fix their stuff and starts operating as a company.

Some good news (as some of you let me know) is that MiracleTele started as a 100% legit company, allowing its investors to purchase their tokens with credit cards and wire transfer. This leaves an inerasable trace that any courts and agencies can trace to anyone who ever had access to these accounts and its money.

If you purchased your tokens this way, great for you, if not here’s another pathway:

https://www.theblockcrypto.com/post/17769/ico-token-didnt-entitle-buyers-to-profits-u-s-judge-says-it-sounds-like-a-security-anyway/
https://www.law360.com/cases/5a3cf0346ec6926bb1000005
https://bravenewcoin.com/insights/lawsuits-triple-as-regulators-take-aim-at-crypto
https://www.theblockcrypto.com/post/35775/sec-files-emergency-lawsuit-against-veritaseum-to-stop-spending-millions-of-dollars-in-ico-money/
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/sec-case-against-kik-ico-040032476.html

Class action cases against ico’s are nothing unusual, they might be under-reported, but they happen, all over the world, every day, each time a company does not deliver on their promises to its investors.

It would be nice for Miracletele to stop addressing you as your »community.«
According to law, you are and will always be first and foremost their INVESTORS, and as such you are protected by any criminal behavior Miracletele might execute against you (INCLUDING BLACKMAILING YOU TO PURCHASE THEIR SIM CARDS TO GET WHAT IS YOURS) trying to fix the mess they’ve caused while sitting on their asses for a year and doing nothing to promote their business.

Some of you already lawyer-ed up, which is good. Collect any evidence you have, store your emails, and all your communications with Miracletele and wait, wait for this miracle of Miracletele to happen.
 
It seems someone from Miracletele is following this message-board… Today for the first time, the worth of their reward did not rise… a day after I’ve posted, »Their reward rate rises at “pre-programmed 0,02€ per day which buys them extra time to…”

Hello MiracleTele, nice from you to drop by, how about you start doing your job and promote what you build so far… not with Africans, Mexicans, or Lord of the rings, but on a worldwide platform.

Keep your promises to your investors, or face the music.
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