Seeing how this train isn't moving and with no moderator responding, we find ourselves in a pinch where we have no way forward or backward.

Hence we would like to hire a representative here on Bitcointalk that could work on gig basis to help us conduct campaigns on this forum and reach out to the community and address any consumer queries. Basically be our representative and do what we would have done if we were allowed to be here.

Please DM me if anyone is interested.

I have messaged Theymos, hilariousandco, and Cyrus about our unban appeal. But I have not received any word from any one of them saying whether our case would be reviewed, or if our appeal is even under consideration.

I understand the admins are busy and have a lot of work and addressing a single appeal from a single account will take some time. But we would like to run advertisements and promotions here all the while engaging with the community.

Without getting the go-ahead from the admins and moderators, that would become a hard thing to do, if not impossible.

So if any admin or moderator is seeing this message, please let us know if we can go ahead and use this account.

Although we appreciate the individual opinions that are being posted here, we would like to receive an official direction from the moderators or the admins here. Without that, we cannot begin to fruitfully engage this community in a way that is expected of us.

That was my first reaction as well. But you need to see this response where I clarified the situation.




Yes, but none of that will happen unless we get permission to stay and use this forum. We are already suffering now by having picked a forum member to work for us, we are not looking to repeat that mistake. We want to have stricter control over the quality of content and interaction being put out of this account.

Thank you for bringing those 2 accounts to my attention, and thank you for your opinion.

If they were actually created by us then that is a clear case of ban evasion. But I am sure this all because of the lack of knowledge and the importance of this forum. Something my employer has now grown to understand and appreciate. We are being straightforward about the situation. No sob stories or excuses, just facts.

No one has to place their trust in us, just give us the benefit of the doubt and let us be a part of this community. If we squander it, I am sure we can be booted again.

Going forward we would like this account to be the main representative of BitDeer.com and we need a moderator's or admin's permission for that. And I humbly request for the same.

For Point 1 and 2

Thank you for clarifying the reason for the ban.
Can you please guide me now what can be done to get out of this ban situation? I am not sure who the particular staff member was that was handling the account back then. They were obviously unaware of the basic etiquette and rules of engagement on an online forum like this.

However, we would like to move past that issue and create a clean and honest image of us over here. So please guide us.

Point 3.

Again, I am not sure what the staff member had in their head when they were creating all those accounts, I wasn't aware of their existence either.
It seems all of them were created prior to the account that got banned. And they have posted no content from those accounts.

So I'm not sure if the existence of those accounts can be seen as ban evasion.

To the best of my knowledge, this account I am posting from is the only account that was created post the Ban of this account: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2509476 And this is done to make a ban appeal.

Considering all that has been said now. I'd like to add that we're a company that is offering the Bitcoin community a platform to share Computing power. It is very important for people to post honest reviews about our site and express their trust or distrust regarding our business. Without a proper presence on Bitcointalk, that cannot happen.

So, I humbly seek your permission to move forward and engage with this community outside of the Meta section using this account that I am posting from. I can assure you, there will be no unsolicited advertising or garbage posts from us going forward.

It's been days since I messaged Theymos and no moderator has yet responded here.
Any moderator update regarding this issue would be appreciated.

For someone new to this forum, going through all the signatures and finding the similarities in design would not even be an afterthought especially since we hired someone, they cheated us. The service provider's telegram handle does not even exist anymore. They said they were an experienced member and even shared their profile link I am told. But now the chat records are empty. So they are not even available for a refund claim. That is a risk we know we have to take when hiring someone online. And sadly we fell for the oldest trick in the book.

And I get your point. No one is robot here and that is our point too. We are not robots behind these accounts. We are people and we are not omnipresent. We make mistakes. In this case, we were cheated. We feel terrible for unknowingly violating a rule which is not just standard for this internet forum but for any place you go to do business. If you cannot spend to create original marketing material then you should not be marketing at all.

And we are not pointing fingers for what was legitimately our mistake. We just want to do what's right here and conduct ourselves in the same manner.

Thank you Legendster and Deathwing. For your support and opinion respectively.


Does the forum rule dictate that not knowing something is a bannable offense? Or is it that being duped into believing that we are buying original design is also our fault?
Sure, I admit, whoever was handling the account back then, was in fact unaware of all the nitty-gritty of this forum and its rules, but I am sure that person did not want to plagiarize some content and then pay money to advertise here. We as a company do not care about cutting corners for a few bucks.

And from what I understand, this forum has had hundreds of signature campaigns and banner ads displayed. How are we supposed to check for plagiarised design work, if we did not have the experience of using this forum in the past? Besides, it is not text, that we could just run it on copyscape or any plagiarism checker and know if it is an original design or not. To check that, we need experience or intel, neither of which we possessed at the time.

People that are more experienced in this forum or the moderators could have informed us of the matter, we would have certainly taken actionable measures. But instead, the account was banned without us even contending the matter. Although I understand it should have been our responsibility nonetheless and no member or moderator owes us anything to check anything on our behalf.

We are not here to point fingers and we will not do that as I feel that is not important. We are here to mend an honest mistake that was made because of the lack of our experience in this forum. We would appreciate some official voice letting us know what we can do henceforth and would request the same.

That should enable us to forge a strong presence in this forum and engage with the community here responsibly - without being exiled from here completely.

Yes, we can confirm that we do not know you. But your support for our cause is appreciated.


Thank you for letting us know but this time we want to hear this from forum administrators. We were already misled by some other forum member when we hired them to do the banner design for us. We want to do things right this time. The email id that the original account was opened with, was handled by someone from our staff. I will find out the login details and try to seek this email address you speak of.

Also, as far as I know, it is allowed to make a ban appeal with a new account and post within the Meta section. If this is wrong, please let me know.

This is an unban appeal for the main account of BitDeer : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2509476

Which was autobanned following this issue brought up by Lightlord : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5144487

Our explanation:
 
We are not experts of Bitcointalk forum, we have had no clue why this issue of plagiarism was brought up at the time. And did not pursue the matter at the time.

About the plagiarised design, we hired someone who gave us this banner ad and we went with it. We even paid them good money to create the banners. We had no idea that this design had been used in this forum in the past or otherwise, I hope you guys can understand our situation and where we are coming from.

If we can spend on advertisement on this forum, we can spend for paying an original design, it was only the lack of knowledge about this forum and its other campaigns that we did not realize our mistake.

Given the circumstance, I hope lightlord would consider removing the negative trust review from our profile page, or at least consider doing so. We want to make a proper come back to this forum and help our community grow and interact with us and let the broader Bitcointalk community know of our existence.

And it would be very much appreciated that the moderators allow us to either use this current account in official status or unban the old one and delete this new one that we are making this appeal from. Either option works.