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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BETA][EXCHANGE][REALTIME] CoinEX realtime exchange on: March 28, 2014, 05:07:10 PM
As digital currencies are not officially regulated by any government body

Umm, digital currencies are officially regulated by many government bodies.

Please enlighten me with the countries and the agencies that regulate them.
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BETA][EXCHANGE][REALTIME] CoinEX realtime exchange on: March 28, 2014, 04:49:58 PM
I think there is a very simple thing to put him in a corner:

Everybody, so that is worldwide in this cryptoworld, go to the police and make it official you have been robbed.
OK if only a few persons do it it is nothing, but if a lot people do it worldwide, there might be a big chance that at airports / bordercrossings etc etc they will get a message in their system as soon as his name shows up.
Then slowly the ball gets rolling.
And in this case i hope they catch him in a country somewhere in asia.


Assuming CoinEX never comes back, I think the best bet (for American victims at least) would be to report this issue to the Internet Crime Complaint Center. I'm not sure if foreign victims are allowed to file reports, but it doesn't hurt to get as many testimonials involved as necessary to ensure justice is served. Those with additional information regarding the identity of the perpetrators will be a big help in speeding up the search process for them. There's enough money and victims here that it would be hard for them not to pay attention to this case. Unfortunately, the FBI doesn't disclose the details of what they do or if/when they find said criminals, but it's better than leaving it to the phantasmagorical realm of 'assassins.'

Bringing it to the feds may leave a bad taste in the mouths of certain crypto anarchists, but reality has to hit home eventually.

This forum is filled with truly naive people.

As digital currencies are not officially regulated by any government body, there is no legal standing that anybody on this site has.
If anything, the only person who could 'go to police' about this all is Erundook himself on the basis he feels his life is in danger because he has been getting death threats on here.

You may hide behind a username, but the reality is this; if a person feels they are in genuine danger from someone on the internet then the police can request details of the offenders from the owner of the site. If they fail to comply then a seizure notice can be served upon the site. VPN or no VPN, a host is still very easily traceable. Once the police have these details, if they wish to they can liase with Interpol and Europol and request an international arrest warrant leading to extradition and eventually a court appearance to explain yourself.

Just accept that we have all lost something here (some far more than others) and that we all need to move on. There is nothing anybody can do for you now.
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BETA][EXCHANGE][REALTIME] CoinEX realtime exchange on: March 22, 2014, 03:13:45 PM
yo morrons ! give me back my Vertcoins !

Probably one of the first things they sold off next to the btc and ltc.

Pure speculation.

Innocent until proven guilty.
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BETA][EXCHANGE][REALTIME] CoinEX realtime exchange on: March 22, 2014, 12:18:15 AM
I tried to warn people about these guys a month and a half ago when they took my hash by making it so you don't put your user just worker. They took hash but didn't compensate and basically said Tough Shit you should of read the instructions. Sorry but if anyone has any sign of a exchange being shady they need to warn eveyone and everyone needs to GTFO.

Cool story bro.
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BETA][EXCHANGE][REALTIME] CoinEX realtime exchange on: March 21, 2014, 02:59:05 PM
Were only Bitcoin stolen or were alt wallets emptied too. If the case is the former, I'd like to withdraw all my alts, and "Maintenance Mode" doesn't seem to be working for people in my situation.

As stated by myself and others several times since page 65 of this thread, yes other coins were taken too.
My post on page 65 shows how I was able to prove that LTC were taken from random accounts on the 18th March (2 days after the site was inaccessible).

My Zeit, WDC and Moon still in coinex , were not stolen.

To be honest, if I was the thief I wouldn't have bothered with the abundance of other coins.
I would of taken all the BTC and all the LTC and left it there.

At the end of the day, a thief wants to make money quick. They don't wanna mess around trading all the stolen MOON and ZEIT and so on and so on for BTC or LTC. Collectively they may be valuable but not without time put into it, something that a thief doesn't want to do.
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BETA][EXCHANGE][REALTIME] CoinEX realtime exchange on: March 21, 2014, 01:43:12 PM
Were only Bitcoin stolen or were alt wallets emptied too. If the case is the former, I'd like to withdraw all my alts, and "Maintenance Mode" doesn't seem to be working for people in my situation.

As stated by myself and others several times since page 65 of this thread, yes other coins were taken too.
My post on page 65 shows how I was able to prove that LTC were taken from random accounts on the 18th March (2 days after the site was inaccessible).
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BETA][EXCHANGE][REALTIME] CoinEX realtime exchange on: March 21, 2014, 09:59:08 AM
Some friends of mine lost coin I will be happy to take the site of you when you eventually give it up, ill be happy to share control with other investors who lost money? my friends could also possibly try to seize the domain in compensation for lost funds.

Lol.
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BETA][EXCHANGE][REALTIME] CoinEX realtime exchange on: March 20, 2014, 04:05:59 PM
Newly created shill accounts suck.  You can stop the ass kissing now.. we know what you are about.

Agreed.
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BETA][EXCHANGE][REALTIME] CoinEX realtime exchange on: March 19, 2014, 05:55:15 PM
This coindesk article seemed to indicate just btc was stolen.  Balances in the other alt-coins unaffected?  Yes/No?
http://www.coindesk.com/coinex-pw-hacked-will-cover-losses/

I think this is what most people are wondering about, and hoping for some info on. I only had a tiny bit of bitcoin on Coinex, but I did have some other coins.

I know for a fact LTC was definitely taken, see my first post in this thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=265277.msg5762477#msg5762477
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BETA][EXCHANGE][REALTIME] CoinEX realtime exchange on: March 19, 2014, 04:41:38 PM
Another update.

Initial 24h timeframe was a bit too optimistic, we need more time to catch up.
While we're waiting for an answer from a few investors, we came up to another idea which could bring much more trust into the bitcoin community.

Long story short: an insurance company for Bitcoin-based services.

More will come soon, keep calm & carry on.

Thanks!
- erundook

Take your time buddy.
Some of us are adults and are just happy you and your guys are working towards a resolution.
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BETA][EXCHANGE][REALTIME] CoinEX realtime exchange on: March 19, 2014, 04:04:41 PM
of course you are going to feel bad for a lil ole exchange that lost a bunch of btc and reimbursed you Sad what a scam...

Are you retarded?

If CoinEX never comes back then I will happily accept that we all got scammed.

For now though, stop trolling and wait like the rest of us and see what happens.

I'm not trolling, you are just dumb... sorry man.  Its funny how people call troll when they dont understand what they are hearing, or they just don't want to listen... ur dumb.

I fully understand what I'm reading I just think making baseless threats for blood and declaring we've been scammed prematurely is just stupid.

I doubt you even have the money or resources to acquire the 'blood' of Erundook anyway.
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BETA][EXCHANGE][REALTIME] CoinEX realtime exchange on: March 19, 2014, 03:41:32 PM
of course you are going to feel bad for a lil ole exchange that lost a bunch of btc and reimbursed you Sad what a scam...

Are you retarded?

If CoinEX never comes back then I will happily accept that we all got scammed.

For now though, stop trolling and wait like the rest of us and see what happens.
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BETA][EXCHANGE][REALTIME] CoinEX realtime exchange on: March 19, 2014, 02:57:34 PM
Damn you must have a lot of money if you have enough to keep scamming and reimbursing everyone.... I know u are in on it just as much as you claim to not be... Just restore my shit so I can leave with it and never come back to you.  Thanks.

Yeah cos that makes sense...
Steal X amount of BTC and then reimburse the same amount back. Crime of the century that is!

Seriously, what are you smoking?

I would only hide my accounts If I was scared that people knew I was cheating them, WHICH U ARE, u have been exposed, ppl are gettin tired of it.

Maybe you should wait for this to pan out before continuing to act like a child.

I am happy to be shown concrete proof that he is in fact cheating people out of BTC.

As of yet, although everything that has happened can look bad, under the right circumstances it can just as easily be explained.

I know I posted previously about LTC being withdrawn from mine and others accounts but that was before Erundook/CoinEX explained the situation.
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BETA][EXCHANGE][REALTIME] CoinEX realtime exchange on: March 19, 2014, 10:30:51 AM
Update, evidence and detail please Erundook.

Why is evidence that important to some of you?

If CoinEX comes back and all the balances are restored then surely evidence is pointless.

Why don't we just wait to see what happens for now.
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BETA][EXCHANGE][REALTIME] CoinEX realtime exchange on: March 19, 2014, 08:22:33 AM
so, i have lost all my zeit  Huh i only transferred in just 1 day before  Cry

Erundook has said they'll refund all the lost coins.
However as much as think his intentions are good, I don't see them replacing my 1.8 BTC.

I know some people had a lot more than that too.
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BETA][EXCHANGE][REALTIME] CoinEX realtime exchange on: March 19, 2014, 08:02:45 AM
For those who want Erundook held accountable for various things like the loss of our coins - stop blaming other people for your own mistakes.

Erundook didn't put a gun to your head telling you to put your coins on his exchange. You did it because you wanted to turn coins in to more coins and the bottom line is that security holes can appear anywhere regardless of how much time and money is invested in it.

Look at the UK banks, in the last 2 or 3 years there have been at least 5 successful attempts and circumventing their security and they're just the ones the FSA have told us about because they affected customers directly.
We have no idea how many more of these 'hacks' have happened in the background.

Now fortunately, the FSA requires banks to reimburse customers who lose money because of something like this.

Don't expect this with Bitcoin and digital currencies.
BTC was designed to be anonymous with all transactions not required to be tied to any person.

If you're not comfortable with this and if you're not prepared to accept that all your coins are at risk at all times then digital currencies are not for you.
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BETA][EXCHANGE][REALTIME] CoinEX realtime exchange on: March 18, 2014, 08:25:53 PM
dude, Coinex, erundick, whatever your name is...you're a fuckin asshole.  people were pleading with you for over 24 hours to just say ANYTHING about the situation and you refused.  what do you really have to gain from not sending a single tweet a few hours after the original to say that you're still dealing with the problems or whatever.

i have no faith in you whatsoever, and am happy that I have a policy of never keeping money on any exchange unless I'm in the middle of a buy (which I was).  I'm counting this as a loss and a great reminder that people who run crypto exchanges and raise funds with "crypto stocks" are some of the sketchiest people on the planet.  

anyone who puts any trust in this guy or "donates" to him is a damn fool.

And with that you just forfeited any balance you had with them.
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BETA][EXCHANGE][REALTIME] CoinEX realtime exchange on: March 18, 2014, 08:16:17 PM
Great to see an update. Thanks!

I have one question though, will my 1.2 BTC of various coins still be there as various coins or as one balance of 1.8 BTC?
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BETA][EXCHANGE][REALTIME] CoinEX realtime exchange on: March 18, 2014, 01:09:29 PM
You're absolutely right, I am merely highlighting what I can see to ensure transparency - something CoinEX have failed to do themselves.
I never said categorically that they are stealing coins, just pointing out the movement.

I don't care for peoples comments along the lines of "That's what you get for using exchanges blah blah blah".

We need to exchanges to be able to trade, there will always be risks with money as some peoples greed is fuelled by the need for money.
Digital currency is just that, a currency and as such it has monetary value.

Realistically there is nothing stopping your banks CEO withdrawing all of their customers money and fleeing to a country with no extradition threaty.
It's just part of the trust you have.

My main issue is the lack of communication and if CoinEX came back online and everything was fine then yes, I would continue to trade their as they would of earnt my trust - they would of had a golden opportunity to run with the money and they didn't.

However, at this stage like you, me and plenty of others have said, it's still impossible to know really what they're doing.
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BETA][EXCHANGE][REALTIME] CoinEX realtime exchange on: March 18, 2014, 12:00:11 PM
As long as there is no public statement from the coinex staff we are only guessing. Maybe we should wait what is going to happen in a few weeks. I don't think that trying to chase transactions or people will help, you only have more questions and no answers at hand.

Well I think I've gone a little further than guessing.

I have proven that LTC that I deposited to CoinEx has been moved to another address along with another 20 LTC.
This happened AFTER CoinEx became unavailable so only CoinEx staff (or hacker which I feel is unlikely) could have moved it.

It would take 30 seconds to just put something on Twitter along the lines of "CoinEx will be back, improving security". Or even just "We're still here" would be enough for most.
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