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1  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: March 28, 2014, 11:42:16 AM
bull shit..
people are selling Icelandic identities to claim free coins in bulk. so no your completely wrong buddy.

If the verification process wasn't so agressive, I would be inclined to believe you.  The only suckers in that scenario are the ones buying the identities.
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: In 40 Hours already 4% of Iceland's population claimed their Auroracoins on: March 27, 2014, 04:30:07 PM
count for yourself
http://auroraexplorer.atorox.net/chain/AuroraCoin?count=2016&hi=5379

i'm not going to enter each block and screen the 31.8 transactions
Airdrop started at 25/3/2014 block 5259

So you don't know how many 31.8 transactions per block there are.

How did you count them then?




I counted the total number of transactions most of them are these 31.8
http://auroraexplorer.atorox.net/tx/6097c3db9b37a092baf6fd50fba2589e32bc461c7bf100805beef96eb6f92641

http://auroraexplorer.atorox.net/tx/20209b9298f498be34192c6b474db2304f2306c1c03a93d352d6c5cbf8a7ea41

Doing it manually will take me ages


Your are joking. The number of transactions of 31.8 AUR are much fewer than the total number!!!

Just have a look at any block!!

Also only the transactions with output of 31.8 count.

There are people getting several times 31.8. Just have a look at this:

http://auroraexplorer.atorox.net/tx/53c88f16fa7a699a81d90bc32adb5a8aca030f7d278d20b5e214b63fd4a3715e



People getting several times 31.8 are people claiming the 31.8 for family members and friends.  Friend of mine collected both for himself and his wife into the same account.
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Auroracoin picking up steam in Iceland on: March 27, 2014, 03:31:51 PM
People trading goods and services with AUR fortunately not overlooked by the media

http://www.visir.is/bilar,-snjallsimar-og-haegindastolar-fyrir-auroracoin/article/2014140329024


How is it picking up steam, the block chain is a stand still from a serious security flaw.


~BCX~

The block chain may be slow, but more and more people are aware of the potential every minute/hour/day and the trading forums are going nuts.
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Auroracoin picking up steam - already traded for goods and services in Iceland on: March 27, 2014, 03:00:52 PM
People trading goods and services with AUR fortunately not overlooked by the media

http://www.visir.is/bilar,-snjallsimar-og-haegindastolar-fyrir-auroracoin/article/2014140329024
5  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: March 27, 2014, 12:53:12 PM
bull shit..
people are selling Icelandic identities to claim free coins in bulk. so no your completely wrong buddy.

Selling them because they cannot use them themselves (found out they are worthless). The excuses here are endless. The airdrop was/is a wild success so far.

The validation process is not going to work so well for people outside Iceland... Even Icelanders living abroad can't by any means use the service even if they know how the system works.
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: In 40 Hours already 4% of Iceland's population claimed their Auroracoins on: March 27, 2014, 10:34:38 AM

Bullshit.

Where is the percentage of airdrop of the coin webpage coming from?

The blockchain is blocked sin ce last night, and the transactions of the previous blocks do not match the percentage.

From the websites internal database of claimed coins, not the chain... The logic behind this is not hard to figure out... 
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: AURORA "airdrop" - before and after March 25 on: March 27, 2014, 10:23:10 AM
I'm surprised how well the price is holding up. It stayed the same although bitcoin crashed down a bit recently.

That might be because the coin is gaining value outside of speculation on exchanges
8  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: March 27, 2014, 08:58:15 AM
If news of this gets out, I'm sure it'll do wonders for crypto's reputation in general.

Hacker destroys Iceland's crypto coin ... yeah, that will go over well... certainly make people feel comfortable investing in and using cryptos all over the World.

Some people unfortunately don't understand the consequences outside the small radius of their 20/20 hindsight.  Sure, AUR might/will die due to their efforts - but due to the media attention this coin has gained, as a result the whole cryptocurrency cause will cause.  At least the hackers are going to empty all their bags into fiat before AUR is pronounced dead, right?

I'm not sure if many here realize how much exposure AUR got in Iceland. At first I thought it was a dinky meme coin, that nobody knew about ... like most alts, right?

Then I read about Iceland's politicians having meetings over it. Then read where AUR was on the national news. It's a big deal there, from what I can tell. It's not like killing Taxi coin.

Yeah, it is a big deal.  People are trading all sorts of commodities including computers, cellphones, even cars already with AUR here in Iceland...  The value of the coin has already presented itself massively.  But these so-called wizards of the information highway that should actually know these things seem to be completely clueless as to what's actually happening with this currency.
9  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: March 27, 2014, 08:39:03 AM
If news of this gets out, I'm sure it'll do wonders for crypto's reputation in general.

Hacker destroys Iceland's crypto coin ... yeah, that will go over well... certainly make people feel comfortable investing in and using cryptos all over the World.

Some people unfortunately don't understand the consequences outside the small radius of their 20/20 hindsight.  Sure, AUR might/will die due to their efforts - but due to the media attention this coin has gained, as a result the whole cryptocurrency cause will suffer as a result.  At least the hackers are going to empty all their bags into fiat before AUR is pronounced dead, right?  Because, you know, otherwise their own net worth is going to plummet.

Edited because dumb phrasing
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: In 40 Hours already 4% of Iceland's population claimed their Auroracoins on: March 26, 2014, 07:58:34 PM
Nice to see people using their coins for actual real life trading.  285 people and counting.  https://www.facebook.com/groups/544259455688424/

Edited for .. aesthetics?
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: In 30 Hours Devs Launder 3.1% of Auroracoin on: March 26, 2014, 08:26:34 AM
   
Re: In 30 Hours already 3.1% of Iceland's population claimed their Auroracoins


    
Re: In 30 Hours already 3.1% 0.1% of Iceland's population claimed their Auroracoins, Devs Claim The Rest.

I fixed the title for you.


~BCX~

Until proven otherwise, the number of actual Icelanders that have claimed their coins is 3.1%.  The claim made by BCX is made up on the spot and completely unsupported.  When you start pointing to actual non-refutable evidence of this being the scam that you for some reason wish so hard for it to be -- you have every right to gloat.  Until then, you are only putting forth your personal speculations as unsupported facts.  Right now you're really just the religion to AUR's science Sad


Come back at block 5401 and we'll continue this conversation.


~BCX~

Your plan to make an attack on the block chain based on your own religion is in fact -- and I know this is hard for you to understand -- not evidence that you are right.
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: In 30 Hours Devs Launder 3.1% of Auroracoin on: March 26, 2014, 08:08:33 AM
   
Re: In 30 Hours already 3.1% of Iceland's population claimed their Auroracoins


    
Re: In 30 Hours already 3.1% 0.1% of Iceland's population claimed their Auroracoins, Devs Claim The Rest.

I fixed the title for you.


~BCX~

Until proven otherwise, the number of actual Icelanders that have claimed their coins is 3.1%.  The claim made by BCX is made up on the spot and completely unsupported.  When you start pointing to actual non-refutable evidence of this being the scam that you for some reason wish so hard for it to be -- you have every right to gloat.  Until then, you are only putting forth your personal speculations as unsupported facts.  Right now you're really just the religion to AUR's science Sad
13  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: March 26, 2014, 07:31:40 AM
Greetings from Iceland, BCX  Undecided

https://i.imgur.com/P6TagkY.jpg


All you've proven is that you have an Icelandic magazine handy  Cheesy

Click on this link and I will be able to tell where you're at for sure.

I set a special link up for you.

http://54.186.15.25/iFz675rTa21Z3pL


~BCX~

If I didn't already have negative experience with giving out my IP to botnet owners, I would click it  Grin
14  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: March 26, 2014, 07:19:39 AM
Greetings from Iceland, BCX  Undecided

https://i.imgur.com/P6TagkY.jpg
15  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: March 26, 2014, 06:48:26 AM

First off, I seriously doubt you are in Iceland. I find it simply amazing that all of the Auroracoin devs and "supporters" seem to speak American English perfectly, right down to the proper slang use.

Secondly, finding a solution in which the premine was not under the devs control was the only way to prove to the world this wasn't a scam. Simply because some coins moved to some "air drop" wallets does exactly zero in proving it not be a scam.

Third, No one will be hunted down if they ripoff everyone. They are all anonymous with not one of them willing to come forward. Not one of them has proven to be in Iceland and that includes Balduro. Their corporation is in Panama, their servers in the USA.


Last, You registered today, I'm sure you're just an average Icelander cruising by and knew exactly where to look and post a rebuttal.


~BCX~

First off, all Icelanders learn English from a very young age, and as for me personally; I went to university abroad and I've played online games since the 90's.

Secondly, you are right.  This might very well be a scam for the very reason you've stated that the devs refuse to let go of control over the premine wallets... However, I for one hope you'll be proven wrong -- and I wish you hoped it too.  Considering the buzz in Icelandic social media, I do believe 3% is not a far-fetched number at all and wouldn't be surprised to see 10% by the end of the week.  

Third, unless balduro has an Icelander proofreading everything he says; seeing Icelandic slang bleed through in his English writing(and his actual Icelandic skills) is incredibly impressive for a foreigner.  The official Icelandic spokesperson could be doing more to shut down the naysayers by providing his real identity, but as long as he hasn't explicitly stated his intent to divulge his identity beyond national television, I'm going to help keep his secret for now.

Last, there was a link to your thread about attacking the chain on the official auroracoin forums and here I am -- as if by magic.

Vaðlaheiðarvegaverkamannavverfærageymsluskúrslyklakippuhringur.  Ég er Íslendingur, í húð og hár borinn, með nokkuð góða málfræði á bakvið mig.  Google Translate getur ekki fyrir sitt litla líf skrifað þetta málfræðilega rétt.
16  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: March 26, 2014, 06:07:13 AM
All the devs had to do, to build total credibility and prove 100% this wasn't a scam was to turn the premine wallets over to a trusted third party committee.

I suggested to them to do this prior to launch and the idea was instantly rejected.

What does that tell you?


~BCX~

It tells me that just as you don't trust them to stand by their words, they don't trust a 3rd party not to run off with or properly secure the wallets.  You do know what happened over here, right?  People entrusted 3rd parties(banks) with their life savings and have nothing today...  No savings, no real estate, no dignity, and the govt basically told the people to fuck off...  To us who want to believe, the people behind AUR are individuals like the rest of the nation who have been through the same shit as the rest of the nation and who want to try to make things better like the rest of the nation...  I'd rather put my faith in those people than official govt scams that everybody already knows are going to fuck over the people in favor of fattening the wallets of a few select sociopaths in congress and their friends.  I'd rather leave the wallets in the hands of those who came up with the idea and just maybe have the idealistic vision to follow through with it.  If the AUR people turn out to be no better, then I have no hope left for this country or any of its citizens...  Plus, if they turn out to be crooks -- they'll end up hunted offline.
17  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: March 26, 2014, 05:43:49 AM
How was it proven not a scam?

How do you know it isn't the devs hiding behind the 'Air Drop" wallets?


~BCX~

It very well could be the devs behind most of the Air Drop wallets as you say, it could also be that Iceland is yet again proving itself to be a quick tech adopter as usual -- I know I and people close to me are reaping the reward of these little care packages.

Nobody didn't expect the AUR to freefall after the airdrop, it's only natural after such a huge dump into the market at those ridiculously inflated prices.  What however people are relying on happening is a longer-running goal -- that local businesses will start accepting AUR in excange for goods and services, making it stronger again by actual demand rather than the speculative bubble created by a couple of big names in the financial industry.  Sure, it might never take off and reach that goal, but only time can tell whether the impact has been large enough to cause ripples of the size we need to get things going.

In its simplest form, what I'm hoping will happen is that as the currency plummets, people getting their coins from the "Air Drop" will be less inclined to part with their share in hopes of the currency strengthening again, leaving a TON of it sitting in the wallets of your average Joe, mostly forgotten.  A few businesses, willing to take the risk and having the know-how to cash the currency realize this and start offering services in exchange for AUR because they know it's essentially free money with little value that people won't feel bad about parting with.  As people start happily getting rid of their low value free money in exchange for actual goods and services, other businesses will want to get in on the action, and start offering competitive prices; leading to an actual demand for AUR as a form of payment, therefore increasing its value and strengthening it on the markets.

A wishful scenario? Sure, but who knows... I just know that my friends, family and I am pretty happy with our share of the Air Drop and give our thanks to whoever is behind it. As for the devs, I really do hope they prove themselves in the long run to be less tainted by greed than the politician fucks that has our people by the balls.

Just a quick actual real life example of what is happening over here:  A local company develops the same exact product for both domestic as well as international markets.  In a local convenience store, you can actually purchase the international version of their product, that has been shipped OUT OF THE COUNTRY AND BACK IN for 2/5 of the price of the domestically marketed version... This isn't right...  It isn't right at all...
18  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: March 25, 2014, 06:38:51 PM

I will say that I'm still on the fence regarding the veracity and legitimacy of the airdrop. I think there needs to be more compelling evidence regarding the distribution. Sure the buzz via Facebook/Twitter is great and so forth, but does it mean that the redemption has so far gone according to plan? If this news has permeated the entire country, wouldn't there be more of a clamor to get their coins? Since this is tied with national identifiers, is there any way to show which parts of the country has had a higher percentage of redemption or something to that effect? Just curious.


Well, there are currently two ways to verify nationality; both of whom work sporadically, I'm sad to say.  I had problems claiming my coins at first because the system is too anal comparing data between systems and I had to actually contact one institution to change my public information in order to get the authentication to work.  But essentially, they are verifying data against the national registry, Facebook(don't like that one in the least) and Mobile SMS authentications. They seem to also be trying to work an official govt backed login system into the mix as well(which would almost completely seal the deal on legitimizing claims to the premine.)  But as to visualizing the data; from what little they expose to the public, I can only guess they are logging social registry data to keep track of claims as they give out a nice warning on the website that the same social id can't claim their share more than once if you try to double-claim it Smiley  So with that data in hand they could most certainly come up with a graph of some sort - but I'm not sure as to the legality of publicizing such a chart.  Then again, they might also just be hashing the data for security reason... So I can't say for sure.
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