It's going fine, a modest initial profit dividend is being sent atm. Can you provide me with your KARMA address please?

Why dump 1-2 bill at 100 to 14 litoshi instead of dump 8.5 bill from 600 to 400? I don`t have Karma anymore, so I don`t really care, but if you want you can answer me. No, actually answer to yourself. You are overreacting about this, as many others. There is no scam. There are failed expectations which is also very mentally painful. But, it is different.

well let see how much you want karma to succeed guys.

Please stop looking at the "team" to come up with new news every-time there is some price dipping. It doesn't work that way. Everyone needs to start cooperating and help karma.

Want karma to succeed?

Start building buy walls in litoshis. Dont go buy 50 ltcs worth of litoshi from 72-78. put that wall at 72 and let is sit there collecting more coins.
Help Spread the word. Make a post. tweet. giveaway. anything that would attract more people.
Start getting active and help the team out. how many time we have to keep repeating this.
Support our btc markets with small fees.
if you can code then you better put your codding effort to help karma.


I'm sorry. its time you all got involved. Almost everything has been done by less then 10 people now.

nothing wrong to talk about prices but that should not be the only thing you do.

I asked you all to look into superNET. I dont see this being ideal for karma but i could have missed a few things. There is also bitcharesX DAC services that we could join.

I guess what i mean is stop coming here and pressuring the few people who are trying to make karma stay relevant enough until some one like Kosmost gets us to mainstream crowd!

I think you all look too much to the team to do something then accept that you all should also get involved. I also believe that the majority here thinks that the LLC coins will be used to save karma. So most of you turn your backs when we need bounties to build stuff.

A lot more work could be done to karma is you come together and collect the bounties mutually. So far all the previous bounties were picked up by mostly Kosmost and the few other of us.

this has to change. We have made it public over a month ago that we need a proper working insightAPI and new KarmaAPI. After 6 months and watching people here brag they have multi billions coins, i cant find it in my hart to ask the same few people to collect roughly 3-5 btcs to get this done. Not to mention i can't even think of asking Kosmost for any of this.

In some way , i believe it is our fault . We allowed the idea that the team will do everything to sink in everyone brain. Our main fault was when we start using terms like "team" and "leaders" . As soon as we did this we kind of alienated each other from the regular members. This wasn't what we wanted . We wanted to be able to do everything with the involvement of the community we were the community. But as needs for stuff arose, the community lacked involvement. only a set of people kept getting involved and donating BTCs to Karma. That is how our group was formed.

Eventually we stop coming to the public to ask for help and just started picking up all the fees ourselves. Eventually we stop asking people here to help us spread the word and we did it all ourselves.

But we are no superheros. We're just like you. Probably own way less coins then you. We have the same real life problems. We all got families and real work that needs our time.  I know one of the team members i gave them 2 mill coins so they can have enough to join the LLC.

No more. Karma weight should not be on the shoulders of few people but on each and every single coin holder. i will not allow the team to pick up any more fees why you all sit there and reap the fruit of their hard labor. The team will focus on working with kosmost to get karma to ASIA. from now on every bounty fee will be open to public and you all have to come together to collect the funds for the bounties.

Remember kama price going down does not equal karma is dead. dont allow some recent weak hands cause panic.

It is good to hear. I`ve already sold my shares wallets, as I`ve already mansion. Without a PoC model I don`t see any good reason for me to keep coins without seeing positive trend on exchange. Of course I am doing it with keeping in mind that hurting the price will also hurt my investment, so I am doing it slowly. When I am on the half way I will stop to wait until it is revealed what is behind the door. I hope it is good. 

Sorry, upset at.....? What is it that happened? This is not really clear to me. Yes, I can see that some people are expressing certain views. But are these views about an event that "happened" or the current state of affairs? I have too much experience to get my panties in a bunch every time the price goes up or down. It's not just a poker face, it's just that I have a different idea of value.

For example, it would take the equivalent of $200 to change the mood of this forum completely by buying up to 92 litoshis. For the cost of lunch I could change the mood of quite a few people here. (It's ridiculous, isn't it?) I've seen quite a few people get excited (and become more involved) recently when the price goes up a mere 10%. To me, it's ridiculous that quite a few people base their moods and feelings (and responses) on what equates to about $5.

Just different ideas of value, I suppose. My vision is more longer-term, not daytrader-like. I'm guessing that 90% of us watch the market at least 1x a day. I could be mistaken, but it seems like it.

Psychologically, the KARMA/LTC market (and, to a lesser extend the KARMA/BTC market) has become our "target". This is completely backwards but there's not much that I can do about it other than continue to talk about, and illustrate, value over price.

Our target is not the bitcointalk forum or the cryptocurrency community. That is a huge mistake that we have been making from Day 1. But we continue to act and respond as though it was. Our target should be the people who need Karma the most.

But our market now (cryptocurrency) is comprised mostly of people who don't really know what value is, unfortunately. Karma is like any other start-up, and that's what a lot of people don't seem to realize. We have customers, a community, and a team. And there is little distinction between any of it.

Our market should be completely different if we are to succeed. Our focus needs to shift to where people need it most, not to where people are entertained most. This is not a game, nor should we treat it like one.

With what I charge for my time I could buy 2 cars a day. I'm not saying that to boast, but to illustrate a point. I am working for the 20 year-old who put his savings into Karma and wants to see it grow. I spent hours making Karmashares certificates myself in order that Karma may grow into something great (and make sure it's done properly, of course). Database, website, graphics, text, tweets, tweaks, and just about everything else.. all from the heart. Isn't that what Karma is all about? Yes, I care that much about Karma. It's just disappointing that there are very few who are dedicated enough to "just do it" and stop talking about doing something (or telling others what needs to be done).

When I read some of the posts here all I can do is shake my head. How is it possible that the majority here don't know the value of Karma? Or the value of 1 Karma? I cherish each and every Karma. That's why I haven't spent any of your Karma yet and am very careful with how it will be spent. Because I know many of you worked hard for it. I am very careful with other people's money, even if I am not overly concerned with how I spend my own.

Some of us should do as much as we can to turn that 1 Karma into something special. It's what I am here for. Although I do not watch the markets daily, perhaps there aren't many here who are concerned with the actual value of Karma in this way.

Adding value today = adding price tomorrow. There is a correlation, of course.

I can't say that I am upset at people saying that we need to do something, yet not getting started and just doing it. It's just frustrating, not upsetting. Actually, it's been this way since the beginning (which is why I stepped up to the plate) and we have never really had an active team that was actually getting stuff done.

There is not much difference in this category from April 4, the first day I began working on Karma. We still have the same level of involvement and I continue to press others to be more active (team and community).

If 90% of us are overly concerned with price I can see to it that I am not. Besides, I tend to think more about value. My experience in having created more than 1 very successful company is not to focus on price more than adding value.

However, there aren't many examples of getting a group of volunteers together to work on something. Even the members of the A-Team got compensated for their efforts. In times of crises, sure. But perhaps not for cryptocurrency.

We can almost guarantee that if we created good-sized bounties for simple tasks that they will not be completed 100%. Anyone here is welcome to try it again.

By the way.. how would you like to re-organize?

Thanks for your suggestions

Kosmost and others what i suggest:

I want to lift of the weight of the people working nearly the entire day for karma or developing things, in the meaning that i take care of the updates and the progress. I want to be the person who people send updates to and i send them out organised to the comunity. Like the android app, because this is fundamental if we want to achieve our goal of bringing karma to other countries.

Second, can there be a new thread, were there is only being brainstormed about BRINGING KARMA TO OTHER COUNTRIES LIKE THE UNBANKED PEOPLE IN THE PHILIPPINES once we agree  on certain aspects evolve and i will write a plan of what the community wants to achieve and what is needed to Achieve this project. I am talking about fundamental things that have to be done. If this is clear we can start a new way of setting people on tasks, i will help with that but before discussing this we got to have our plan ready.

So kosmost and others, or you for or against this? Because we need to be organized to achieve great goals. Control is a key aspect in achieving anything.

lets say for arguments sake that we get some bad news today.. that would mean that they only had 1 day to act.. so if it was insider trading they would have had to dump quickly..
you can't be subtle when you only have one day and the volume is so low.

of course we wont know for sure until an announcement is made.

if the news is good news then it wont have been insider trading.
if the news is very bad then this will make the case for insider trading so much stronger.

so we just have to wait...

only 3.5 hours till Sept 2 where I am...

Socoban, I'm against you pointing fingers at Karma Team too quick without any evidences. That can be considered as FUD and can easily hurt the trust in this coin and it was very wrong coming from members like you.  Take some more time and analyse more before pointing fingers at some one. Look at how this turned out to be in your own words,


    

Hey, everyone. I've been a bit sick lately but am hoping to start posting again in a couple of days.

and don't forget... price < value

We've got some great ideas, but need help executing them. For example: http://www.reddit.com/r/Karmashares/comments/2d7yol/the_developing_world_karmas_opportunity_for/

we will do what it takes to make Karma work! real users is where it's at.

大胆想法 未来是否有电子货币银行存在
Karmashares 未来自己电子货币银行是否可以实现

Is anyone interested in a poll to see how many coins people keep on exchanges, and for how long they've been kept there? (this won't be entirely accurate of course, as some will answer falsely but should be an interesting indicator)

Just sent 50.000