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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EFL] Electronic Gulden Foundation (foundation being established)

on: August 04, 2014, 11:35:32 AM

The Official Text from the latest newsletter of The Electronic Gulden Foundation PREAMBLE As the newly established Electronic Gulden Foundation, we are pleased to offer you our very first newsletter. It has been sent to your e-mail address as you indicated at the time you registered at our predecessors’ website egulden.com that you wanted to be kept informed about e-Gulden developments or that you requested your gratis e-Gulden allotment. The community asked the board of the Foundation to regularly publish a newsletter and we will gladly do so. However, the e-Gulden is a crypto coin for the Dutch people to be mainly used in the Netherlands. As such the board of the Foundation has chosen to publish all its communications (forum, website, newsletters and e-mails) in the Dutch language. This means that this newsletter, in English, is a one-time event. We will reconsider our position only if continuation of English language communications is (overwhelmingly) demanded by the e-Gulden community. Should you no longer wish to receive any communications by e-mail from the Foundation, in Dutch, you can unsubscribe by clicking on the link below. Of course we sincerely hope you continue to follow us. MESSAGE FROM THE FOUNDATION The Foundation was established on July 3rd, 2014 as this was the only way to rescue the e-Gulden from perdition. The original founders of the e-Gulden unfortunately did not operate with integrity and honesty, which we, as board of the Foundation, deplore greatly. After the coin was introduced, with great fanfare, in the Dutch national media, who incidentally covered the founders’ “great news show” without criticism or without doing some basic fact-finding, things came to light that showed that “facts” stated by the founders were nothing but hot air. We do not wish to speculate or conjure whether they deliberately acted in dubious ways but we want to concentrate our efforts on those issues and developments that will propel the EFL, rather than dwell in the past. Fortunately, the technical protocol of the e-Gulden has proven to be robust and reliable and we are convinced that, together with the community, we can turn the e-Gulden into a sound succes. The board is therefore pleased to let you know that it will honour all gratis e-Gulden requests that were ordered through the original website (e-gulden.com) and that we will transfer 22,0371 EFL to the wallets registered there, irrespective of whether these requests qualified for the then valid conditions or not. By doing this we hope to show that we are different/better than the original developers/Advertouch v.o.f. We cannot and will not bear responsibility for false promises done by the original developers/Advertouch in the past. As far as we are concerned the chapter original developers/Advertouch is now firmly closed. It’s time to move forward. As the saying goes “trust comes on foot, but leaves on horseback” we are well aware of the damage caused by our predecessors. Our hope is that by operating completely transparent and by developing a sound vision, in collaboration with enthusiasts in- and outside of the community, we can regain the broader community’s trust in the e-Gulden. A tremendous amount of effort is being put into the further development of our coin. As a first step we’ve launched our new website, today, at http://e-gulden.org. We have also released new versions of the e-Gulden wallets. You can download these on the new site. Since the introduction of the e-Gulden, its market value dropped to a price-point that by now one EFL represents about 10% of the cost (in terms of hardware investment and energy expended) to mine one new e-Gulden. At these price levels people, with less developed technical know-how, can enter the market and obtain a neat amount of e-Guldens, mainly by trading on exchanges, at a small-sum investment. Our penultimate goal is to enable as many Dutch people as possible to make the move towards cryptocurrency. Our commitment to you is thus a simple one: we’ll do what we promise but we won’t make promises we cannot uphold. We’d love to see you at our new forum: http://forum.egulden.org Volunteers and new companies accepting e-Gulden are (very) welcome, too!

Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EFL] Electronic Gulden Foundation (foundation being established)

on: August 03, 2014, 04:29:21 PM

Quote from: Danslip on August 02, 2014, 06:17:08 AM Quote from: Litesire on August 02, 2014, 01:00:07 AM Alright the problem is I was looking at coinmarketcap which is incorrectly reflecting the total mined coins. When you have a premine coinmarketcap doesn't include the premine, however they have included 5 million of your premine inflating EFLs total free market value by over 60%. Your total coins as of this post is 13 888 775 according to http://cryptoblox.com/chain/Electronic%20Gulden?count=20 So right now your true marketcap should be around $23992.5 at current prices. 13 888 775(total) - 10 500 000(premine) = 3388775 * $ 0.007080 = $23992.57 Rightfully your coin should be 183 rd position which I do remember it being about a week or 2 ago, so someone must of requested the change on your end. This is why I came to the figure I did earlier as I took coinmarketcaps coin total for EFL + premine. lol, well spotted! Manipulation at it's finest, anyways I am not going to bother replying here anymore, it's peoples own choice who they get in bed with. I am the one laughing right now. Well spotted? This was his second incorrect calculation So it's better than you dont post here. You don't have the brainpower to judge simple calculations.

Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: CoinMarketCap.com - Market Cap Rankings of All Cryptocurrencies!

on: August 03, 2014, 04:20:26 PM

Quote from: Bluestreet on August 03, 2014, 03:23:47 PM Quote from: SuicidalTendencies on August 03, 2014, 08:45:42 AM Hi CoinmarketCap Support. EFL - Electronic Gulden is including premine in marketcap value. It should be like AUR which only has mined coins included. The premine for EFL is 10 500 000 (50% of total coins) or have the rules changed and coins can say if they have spent Premine? This would be bad as devs could dump out to themselves and claim premine is on the market. EFL is a scam coin, so this isn't surprising they gave coinmarketcap false info. Have you been lying under a rock? The original devs of EFL tried to scam everybody. But they were caught. From that moment some guys from the EFL community took over. They have started the Electronic Gulden Foundation. The efl foundation holds 5 million premine coins. So EFL has made a fresh start. Have a look a the new website >> http://www.e-gulden.org

Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: CoinMarketCap.com - Market Cap Rankings of All Cryptocurrencies!

on: August 03, 2014, 04:16:27 PM

Quote from: SuicidalTendencies on August 03, 2014, 08:45:42 AM Hi CoinmarketCap Support. EFL - Electronic Gulden is including premine in marketcap value. It should be like AUR which only has mined coins included. The premine for EFL is 10 500 000 (50% of total coins) or have the rules changed and coins can say if they have spent Premine? This would be bad as devs could dump out to themselves and claim premine is on the market. You are telling something what is not true. Only the EFL premine coins which are in circulation are added up to the total marketcap. They have an influence on the current price per coin. Everyone can buy and sell them now because they are in circulation. So it's more than logical that they are added up to the current marketcap.

Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EFL] Electronic Gulden Foundation (foundation being established)

on: August 03, 2014, 04:12:28 PM

Quote from: Litesire on August 02, 2014, 01:00:07 AM Quote from: eflmaniak on August 01, 2014, 06:29:00 PM Quote from: Litesire on August 01, 2014, 01:06:05 PM Quote from: eflmaniak on August 01, 2014, 12:08:48 PM Quote from: Litesire on August 01, 2014, 10:07:44 AM Quote from: KenChanYu on August 01, 2014, 09:50:12 AM Quote from: eflmaniak on July 30, 2014, 04:48:43 PM 1. The Foundation was established on July 3rd, 2014 as this was the only way to rescue the e-Gulden from perdition. 2. A tremendous amount of effort is being put into the further development of our coin. As a first step we’ve launched our new website, today, at http://e-gulden.org. We have also released new versions of the e-Gulden wallets. You can download these on the new site. I saw on Poloniex awhile back that the original devs set this coin up as a scam and they still hold majority of the premine, very risky and something you should mention to investors. I take it EFL bagholders who were caught out feel they need to carry on with the coin but 99% of us have lost to scams at some point, no point beating a dead horse. Do you guys know about Guldencoin? It's backed by a honest team and never been part of a scam like EFL. This will always come back to bite your coin in the future... the Dutch should unite and support one coin. imo I am not Dutch btw but I think Guldencoin is great! The E-Gulden is much better. The E-Gulden has a bigger community and a bigger market cap. The halve reward of the E-Gulden will be this year in November. The E-Gulden has been in all the Dutch media. The current hashrate is 20 times bigger from the start of the Foundation. The value has also increased from the start of the Foundation. The E-Gulden has also some other advantages. On the long run the E-Gulden will beat Guldencoin!! 10 million premine (50%), 8,840,835 mined already, which means close to 95% of the coins already in circulation and in a few hands. Once your block reward halves your hashrate will halve unless you are preparing to pump the price and manipulate the market. This will be easy since the coin is very cheap. While you pump the price, the original dev group will be ready to dump out and smiling all the way to the bank. Goodluck 21.000.000 total amount of coins 10.500.000 premine coins >> 5.039.340 off the premine coins in hands of the foundation >> 50% of the premine coins.. 10.500.000 coins to be mined In circulation 8.840.835 >> More than 40% in circulation. >> 3.383.974 is mined. The other 5.456.861 coins are premine coins If you do your math the right way..... 10.500.000 premine coins.. minus the 5.456.861 sold premine coins ------------------------------ 5.043.139 premine coins not on the market minus 5.039.340 premine coins in hands of the foundation -------------------------------------------------- 3799 of the premine coins in hands of the original devs..... So the original devs have probably only a small amount of the premine coins of nothing at all.... Litesire..Your story is based on thin air. Do your math before you say something... Alright the problem is I was looking at coinmarketcap which is incorrectly reflecting the total mined coins. When you have a premine coinmarketcap doesn't include the premine, however they have included 5 million of your premine inflating EFLs total free market value by over 60%. Your total coins as of this post is 13 888 775 according to http://cryptoblox.com/chain/Electronic%20Gulden?count=20 So right now your true marketcap should be around $23992.5 at current prices. 13 888 775(total) - 10 500 000(premine) = 3388775 * $ 0.007080 = $23992.57 Rightfully your coin should be 183 rd position which I do remember it being about a week or 2 ago, so someone must of requested the change on your end. This is why I came to the figure I did earlier as I took coinmarketcaps coin total for EFL + premine. Why shouldn't the premine coins which are in circulation be added to the total marketcap? They have an influence on the current price per coin. Everyone can buy and sell them now. So it's more than logical that the premine coins which are in ciruclation are added up to the current marketcap. You are not very good with financial stuff. The real marketcap is the one you see now at coinmarketcap.com That's $ 61,000 at the moment.

Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EFL] Electronic Gulden Foundation (foundation being established)

on: August 01, 2014, 06:37:34 PM

Quote from: Danslip on August 01, 2014, 04:31:07 PM I see my post got deleted for calling it a sc.. , I don't post often but when I do it's because I feel strongly about something. I am just happy to see the crypto community has matured enough to not fall for this, however these guys know the crypto community is not stupid and will be targetting newbs in the dutch population who think they can get rich like in the early days of bitcoin. It is not a secret that the orignals devs try to sc everybody. I am also a victim of what they tried to do. You can find the info that they tried to sc everybody on the new website and forum. This was also mentioned in the latest newsletter from the foundation. It's old news that this coin was a sc** Everybody knows that already. But the community has made a fresh start. The past is behind us. The E-Gulden community wants to make something of this coin.

Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EFL] Electronic Gulden Foundation (foundation being established)

on: August 01, 2014, 06:29:00 PM

Quote from: Litesire on August 01, 2014, 01:06:05 PM Quote from: eflmaniak on August 01, 2014, 12:08:48 PM Quote from: Litesire on August 01, 2014, 10:07:44 AM Quote from: KenChanYu on August 01, 2014, 09:50:12 AM Quote from: eflmaniak on July 30, 2014, 04:48:43 PM 1. The Foundation was established on July 3rd, 2014 as this was the only way to rescue the e-Gulden from perdition. 2. A tremendous amount of effort is being put into the further development of our coin. As a first step we’ve launched our new website, today, at http://e-gulden.org. We have also released new versions of the e-Gulden wallets. You can download these on the new site. I saw on Poloniex awhile back that the original devs set this coin up as a scam and they still hold majority of the premine, very risky and something you should mention to investors. I take it EFL bagholders who were caught out feel they need to carry on with the coin but 99% of us have lost to scams at some point, no point beating a dead horse. Do you guys know about Guldencoin? It's backed by a honest team and never been part of a scam like EFL. This will always come back to bite your coin in the future... the Dutch should unite and support one coin. imo I am not Dutch btw but I think Guldencoin is great! The E-Gulden is much better. The E-Gulden has a bigger community and a bigger market cap. The halve reward of the E-Gulden will be this year in November. The E-Gulden has been in all the Dutch media. The current hashrate is 20 times bigger from the start of the Foundation. The value has also increased from the start of the Foundation. The E-Gulden has also some other advantages. On the long run the E-Gulden will beat Guldencoin!! 10 million premine (50%), 8,840,835 mined already, which means close to 95% of the coins already in circulation and in a few hands. Once your block reward halves your hashrate will halve unless you are preparing to pump the price and manipulate the market. This will be easy since the coin is very cheap. While you pump the price, the original dev group will be ready to dump out and smiling all the way to the bank. Goodluck 21.000.000 total amount of coins 10.500.000 premine coins >> 5.039.340 off the premine coins in hands of the foundation >> 50% of the premine coins.. 10.500.000 coins to be mined In circulation 8.840.835 >> More than 40% in circulation. >> 3.383.974 is mined. The other 5.456.861 coins are premine coins If you do your math the right way..... 10.500.000 premine coins.. minus the 5.456.861 sold premine coins ------------------------------ 5.043.139 premine coins not on the market minus 5.039.340 premine coins in hands of the foundation -------------------------------------------------- 3799 of the premine coins in hands of the original devs..... So the original devs have probably only a small amount of the premine coins of nothing at all.... Litesire..Your story is based on thin air. Do your math before you say something...

Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EFL] Electronic Gulden Foundation (foundation being established)

on: August 01, 2014, 12:08:48 PM

Quote from: Litesire on August 01, 2014, 10:07:44 AM Quote from: KenChanYu on August 01, 2014, 09:50:12 AM Quote from: eflmaniak on July 30, 2014, 04:48:43 PM 1. The Foundation was established on July 3rd, 2014 as this was the only way to rescue the e-Gulden from perdition. 2. A tremendous amount of effort is being put into the further development of our coin. As a first step we’ve launched our new website, today, at http://e-gulden.org. We have also released new versions of the e-Gulden wallets. You can download these on the new site. I saw on Poloniex awhile back that the original devs set this coin up as a scam and they still hold majority of the premine, very risky and something you should mention to investors. I take it EFL bagholders who were caught out feel they need to carry on with the coin but 99% of us have lost to scams at some point, no point beating a dead horse. Do you guys know about Guldencoin? It's backed by a honest team and never been part of a scam like EFL. This will always come back to bite your coin in the future... the Dutch should unite and support one coin. imo I am not Dutch btw but I think Guldencoin is great! The E-Gulden is much better. The E-Gulden has a bigger community and a bigger market cap. The halve reward of the E-Gulden will be this year in November. The E-Gulden has been in all the Dutch media. The current hashrate is 20 times bigger from the start of the Foundation. The value has also increased from the start of the Foundation. The E-Gulden has also some other advantages. On the long run the E-Gulden will beat Guldencoin!!

Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EFL] Electronic Gulden Foundation (foundation being established)

on: August 01, 2014, 11:59:18 AM

Quote from: KenChanYu on August 01, 2014, 09:50:12 AM Quote from: eflmaniak on July 30, 2014, 04:48:43 PM 1. The Foundation was established on July 3rd, 2014 as this was the only way to rescue the e-Gulden from perdition. 2. A tremendous amount of effort is being put into the further development of our coin. As a first step we’ve launched our new website, today, at http://e-gulden.org. We have also released new versions of the e-Gulden wallets. You can download these on the new site. I saw on Poloniex awhile back that the original devs set this coin up as a scam and they still hold majority of the premine, very risky and something you should mention to investors. I take it EFL bagholders who were caught out feel they need to carry on with the coin but 99% of us have lost to scams at some point, no point beating a dead horse. The majority of the premine coins is in the hands of the Foundation. They hold about 5 million premine coins.

Local / Alt Coins (Nederlands) / Re: [ANN][EFL] Electronic Gulden Foundation (stichting in oprichting)

on: July 30, 2014, 05:03:01 PM

De stichting is inmiddels al een paar weken geleden opgericht De 3 heren van de stichting doen goed werk samen met de andere vrijwilligers!! Meer info op de nieuwe website http://www.e-gulden.org

Local / Alt Coins (Nederlands) / Re: eGulden (binnenkort)

on: July 30, 2014, 04:54:57 PM

De E-Gulden leeft meer dan ooit!! 1. De stichting is op 3 juli 2014 opgericht, omdat dit de enige mogelijkheid was om onze e-Gulden te redden. 2. Er wordt momenteel hard gewerkt aan de verdere ontwikkeling van onze gulden. Als eerste hebben wij, vandaag, een nieuwe website http://e-gulden.org gelanceerd. Ook hebben wij een nieuwe versie van de e-Gulden wallets gemaakt. Deze kun je op de site downloaden.

Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EFL] Electronic Gulden Foundation (foundation being established)

on: July 30, 2014, 04:48:43 PM

1. The Foundation was established on July 3rd, 2014 as this was the only way to rescue the e-Gulden from perdition. 2. A tremendous amount of effort is being put into the further development of our coin. As a first step we’ve launched our new website, today, at http://e-gulden.org. We have also released new versions of the e-Gulden wallets. You can download these on the new site.

Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EFL] Electronic Gulden Foundation (foundation being established)

on: June 06, 2014, 07:49:25 AM

Quote from: Anonylz on June 05, 2014, 09:12:52 PM The meeting that was voted for on our forum will take place on saturday 7 june at 3:00 PM at the Rembrandt zaal of the Mastbosch Hotel, Breda. The agenda can be found here. An update about our meeting can be expected early next week. Everybody is welcome to come to this meeting. Don't forget to come if you have the time!!

Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EFL] Electronic Gulden Foundation (foundation being established)

on: May 27, 2014, 10:20:42 AM

Great Job. They have got nothing to do with the original devs of this coin. There is finally someone who has stepped up to make this coin a big success!!

Other / Meta / Reopen Topic

on: May 27, 2014, 10:06:23 AM

Can someone reopen this topic? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=522661.1420 The original devs have locked it. There is some great news about EFL. It would be great if someone could reopen it and become the moderator.

Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EFL] Electronic Gulden - NEWS! - ANDROID WALLET AVAILABLE!

on: May 12, 2014, 07:24:12 AM

More transparency would be great. A foundation can achieve this. This coin can become a good investment on the long term. I am still holding all my EFL coins. I want to apologize to the devs for the false accusations.

Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EFL] Electronic Gulden - NEWS! - ANDROID WALLET AVAILABLE!

on: May 10, 2014, 08:41:58 AM

Premined adresses Cold storage 1: LTnmK6inEa6gAyD8qbvArM7cnRqf3Ytm7a Cold storage 2: LcgHU6AHXsZEWb7Jq4i2Vsi3bCsTdd2NPh Cold storage 3: LXu3h79a5D1rRiKLRUZb5yMcfyxrPiiY8w Distribution adres 4: LKMoQFm73gEKUUQF6QKsTx6ZmuSjtK6vVd Distribution adres 5: LZi1W4VMVD7enKbskeDLEWB3oikjSiEkJA The 3 cold storage adresses hold 7.5 million EFL. Distribution adres 4 is the place where all the magic begins. It's to much work to look at every transaction. The devs should have an excel file of all the adresses which received 50 EFL as part of the airdrop. It's also easy to export every transaction from your wallet. So why it's taking so long to show us all the adresses that have received 50 EFL as part of the airdrop?

Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EFL] Electronic Gulden - NEWS! - ANDROID WALLET AVAILABLE!

on: May 09, 2014, 10:59:41 AM

troll and noob? I am holding more than 20% of the mined EFL coins........

Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EFL] Electronic Gulden - NEWS! - ANDROID WALLET AVAILABLE!

on: May 09, 2014, 10:28:46 AM

Stop buying this coin and filling the pockets of the devs. There are signals that the premine coins have been sold via Bittrex. The devs have to hurry up with showing the premine adresses.

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