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1  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Recovering 'missing' taproot (?) Satoshi on: December 05, 2022, 01:33:57 AM
Single Wallet on Trezor, multiple accounts (SegWit, then Taproot).

Tried adding m/44'/0'/1' (or M/44H/0H/1H on Coinomi) and m/44'/0'/1' without luck.  BlueWallet details says it at m/44'/0'/0'

Back on the x vs z pubs.  On Trezor, when I show the "xpub" to scan, the typed version starts with "tr([db373be9/86'/0'/0']xpub........../<0;1>/*)"  tr presumably means taproot, no idea what the db###be# stands for, then it has the 86' derivation path start.  It's so weird that BlueWallet would show it as an m/44' unless it translated it into something different.

One stranger, the ...... in quotes above matchs on the Trezor and BlueWallet.  The difference is BlueWallet doesnt have the other stuff in quotes. 

trying on Electrum now...



unable to type my seed into Electrum.  Scan and paste work, but the keyboard does not appear to type in seed phrase.

added it as watch only via copy/paste from BlueWallet receive address.  The satoshi appeared, but still as watch only style wallet so I'm in the same boat.

is it just me, or is electrum kinda buggy?

E2A, I was trying to "import bitcoin addresses or private keys", but when i try "standard Wallet" > "I already have a Seed" the keyboard appeared fine.

E2A: entered seed phrase, but the "Next" button is not available to click.  Double-checked, no typos.  what am i doing wrong?

Last E2A:  I manually typed my seed phrase, set it to m/44'/0'/0' andddddd nothing is showing - no tx or balance.

I'm stumped.  WTF have I done wrong?  Must be BlueWallet is lying about the derivation path.  Any way to 'scan' the whole private key for all derivation paths with balances?



Is anyone with a Trezor willing to try and replicate what I am going through?

Create Taproot address on trezor
scan zpub into BlueWallet as watch only
(check bluewallet derivation path)
generate receive address on BlueWallet
Send satoshi's to that address

and report back here if there is anything funky going on...

I've some sats to share with the user who helps me crack this mystery (assuming that's allowed on this forum)

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2  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Recovering 'missing' taproot (?) Satoshi on: December 04, 2022, 10:53:50 PM
Tried that on Coinomi, is it possible I'll find them differently with Electrum or BlueWallet?
3  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Recovering 'missing' taproot (?) Satoshi on: December 04, 2022, 10:37:56 PM
@xanto can you elaborate what you mean by this question you private messages me?

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Hi
Write your scheme for creating and generating addresses again
What types of addresses,how much was sent satoshi,where,preferably with a hash,so you can check



Scanned qr code zpub/xpub from Trezor suite.
zpub/xpub is the master public key used for deriving individual public keys and addresses of an HD wallet.
A master pubic key starting with xpub is used for deriving legacy addresses and a master public key starting with zpub is used for deriving segwit addresses.
You imported a xpub and created a legacy watch-only wallet, not a taproot wallet.

Understood, I think.

How do I recover access to the funds?  Tried creating a legacy address on trezor, but that's didn't reveal the missing Sats.

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4  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Recovering 'missing' taproot (?) Satoshi on: December 04, 2022, 10:31:09 PM
Scanned qr code zpub/xpub from Trezor suite.
5  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Recovering 'missing' taproot (?) Satoshi on: December 04, 2022, 10:04:09 PM
I have a strange situation maybe someone here can help me out with... or at least tell me it's a non-fixable issue.

Being super excited about Taproot, I created a Taproot account from my existing Trezor wallet/device.  Since I don't use my Trezor day-to-day, just for cold storage, I added it as a watch-only wallet to BlueWallet (as I did with my primary SegWit account) to generate receive addresses on the go while preventing the ability to send -- without extra steps.

Then off I went, generating receive address on BlueWallet and sending satoshi into it for storage.  Life was good.

Fast forward to last month, when I booted up my Trezor to do an update check and overall review.

I almost cr@ped myself when I saw my Taproot account was empty on the Trezor.  

After doing a ton of research and asking around to my Bitcoin techie network, I came across some strange info -- the BlueWallet "taproot" account appears to be using the derivation M/44' ... not M/86' as one would expect for a Taproot wallet.

What in the world did I do wrong, and how to I recover these 'missing' satoshi that I believe are still tied to my private key but not visible in Trezor nor sendable in BlueWallet?

Notes:
  • BlueWallet shows a balance & no sent tx - I don't think the bitcoin was 'stolen' in any way
  • Recieve addresses start with "1" on the BlueWallet 'taproot' wallet I imported
  • Tried using Coinomi with custom derivation paths to no avail.  My Segwit satoshi were found but not these 'taproot' satoshi

Any/all advice or guidance on getting access to my taproot satoshi is greatly appreciated.  Not sure where else I can turn for help.

Thanks
6  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official FutureBit Apollo BTC Software/Image and Support thread on: August 03, 2022, 10:13:25 PM
Excellent news!  Congrats to the whole Futurebit team on the update. 

I look forward to updating as soon as I backup the Home Assistant data, which I just installed on Monday and loving so far (for those interested).

Two questions from me:

 - being a Batch 3 owner, will there be future updates/features that come to the new MCU2 and not to MCU1?  Hope I'm on a 'retired' or 'legacy' hw platform after only a few months.

- after reboot, at the login screen, is there a reason virtual keyboard is disabled/not loading?  I share a keyboard between my workstation and futurebit.  Was hoping to use the virtual key board to login, but doesn't appear to work.  Was this intentional?
7  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official FutureBit Apollo BTC Software/Image and Support thread on: July 10, 2022, 03:51:08 PM
Anyone tried running Home Assistant from their Apollo?

Figure if it's online 24/7 maybe I can use it to host a local Home Assistant server at the same time.

https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/
8  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official FutureBit Apollo BTC Software/Image and Support thread on: March 12, 2022, 06:19:11 PM
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If you follow the 80% "rule"

Yes, this is what I was asking about. Is there a 90% rule?  The mining HW is all new to me.

Mined BTC on my discrete GPU many years ago. Looking to understand the HW limits. My unit's temps are relatively low and consistent, is there more juice that can be squeezed with the stock PSU I already have before buying a new one?

Thanks!
9  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official FutureBit Apollo BTC Software/Image and Support thread on: March 12, 2022, 02:24:30 PM
The FutureBit PSU is already derated to 80%, its designed to run @ 200 watts 24/7. If this was a normal ATX PSU it would be marketed as a "250W" PSU.

Does the stock PSU offer any leeway to OC the hashboard? Mine is practically at 2 weeks uptime, seems to be very stable SW, looking forward to the bitcoin apps you're working on.  

Is the miner's hashrate supposed to match the slushpool's hashrate on the Apollo Dashboard?

Apollo Dashboard -

Apollo Detail -

Slushpool Detail -
10  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official FutureBit Apollo BTC Software/Image and Support thread on: March 09, 2022, 04:03:14 AM
May be of interest to those looking to get more hash power from their units.  Seen others mention using this PSU on the Apollos, no personal experience with them - but I'm exploring it.

https://slickdeals.net/f/15660049-corsair-rm750x-modular-750w-gold-psu-83-at-amazon
11  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official FutureBit Apollo BTC Software/Image and Support thread on: March 03, 2022, 01:25:07 AM
Thank you Futurebit for delivering what you promised.





Cant wait to see what developments are in the works!
12  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official FutureBit Apollo BTC Software/Image and Support thread on: February 26, 2022, 02:09:51 PM
The web dashboard still shows that the miners are inactive: everything is showing zeroes, even after I refresh the screen.
Tried full reboot? Dashboard can be dodgy at times. Reboot is often easier than manually digging for services to restart, because obviously it restarts everything. Cheesy

I bet you changed the time zone on the OS. @thak777

Same thing happened to me yesterday. Miner kept running fine according to slushpool, but all stats were empty.  

Preformed a system reboot and everything has been problem free since then.
13  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official FutureBit Apollo BTC Software/Image and Support thread on: February 25, 2022, 06:51:28 PM
1) Is it possible to use the in screen keyboard option at the Apollo os login screen? I don't have a keyboard I can leave permanently hooked up to the Apollo unit, it would be much more convenient if I could use the mouse to pick the password letters using an on-screen keyboard.

2) Also, has anybody set up a VPN on the Apollo unit? I'm thinking about using my free windscribe account (50gb/mo) but weary of breaking anything custom setup for the miner/node to work.

Thanks!

I use my dVPN  from Deeper Network just fine

Is that only a hardware solution or do they have a downloadable as well?

Are these results in line with what others are getting?

And if anyone is looking to upgrade their SSD to 2TB...  https://slickdeals.net/f/15619948-2tb-samsung-970-evo-plus-ssd-200-free-s-h-at-amazon
14  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official FutureBit Apollo BTC Software/Image and Support thread on: February 25, 2022, 02:58:03 PM
1) Is it possible to use the in screen keyboard option at the Apollo os login screen? I don't have a keyboard I can leave permanently hooked up to the Apollo unit, it would be much more convenient if I could use the mouse to pick the password letters using an on-screen keyboard.

2) Also, has anybody set up a VPN on the Apollo unit? I'm thinking about using my free windscribe account (50gb/mo) but weary of breaking anything custom setup for the miner/node to work.

Thanks!
15  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Running s19 with one board removed on: February 22, 2022, 01:56:43 AM
I am researching this topic.

Can you share more about your experience doing it?

What was the power draw?  Efficiency about the same as running the full unit?

Would love to find a way to control just a single s19 hashboard with my Apllo controller.
16  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official FutureBit Apollo BTC Software/Image and Support thread on: February 03, 2022, 04:04:41 PM
I'm new here.  Minned BTC on my discrete gpu in 2013 and sold it all at $125/₿.  Grin

Jumping back into mining, so I bought myslef a Futurebit node/miner.  

Fully agree with the DCA via electricity for Non-KYC!

Honesty, I also got one because I got scared when I saw how few nodes are protecting the Blockchain.  Even more so that USA only has 1770 nodes.  Huh Bitnodes.io

Figured it's time to step up and do my part to help the community and my own holdings.


Quote from: n0nce link=topic=5340015.msg59145980#msg59145980
Yes, that's pretty much correct. Though you don't factor in the resale value. You could run them for a year and sell them at MSRP, probably. But of course, makes little sense economically, it's much easier to just DCA.
One thing I love about home mining (esp. with sticks) is that you are DCA'ing without KYC and getting Bitcoin without KYC / AML little by little, just by paying a bit more for electricity. And with sticks you can easily 'scale'; $1000 is a lot of money for most people to spend on a miner. $200 or $250 might be easier to justify. Then after a while get a second, third, etc. - with Apollo it's obviously more like 'all in or nothing'. Grin
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