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Well, I believe my recommendation is to give it a shot or to contact customer service.
I would refrain giving it a try. If he do something like what he's planning and the casino finds it out then there's more trouble to his money. It's better for him to talk seriously with the customer service and be outright on what has happened. Things can be done peacefully if it's being made through talks and I think that the casino will spare him as it is his fund and didn't came from nowhere. There's a chance that he'll be given consideration. The chance of getting the funds back with sincere talks with the customer rep is better if the site is a known reputable casino here. But if not, high likely that the site will freeze his funds because he is using the site from prohibited countries. The OP should also check the terms of the site regarding the use of VPN on the casino. If the site is allowing VPN, then he has good hope to get the funds back even using his own credentials. Because the problem with asking from a friend is that, it will suddenly give a different IP, which is very different from his previous recorded IPs. Which will give the site more suspicion about his account. So for me, it is better to talk with the site about the real status of his account. Haven't logged-in since last week, will read through all the posts. Thanks for all the replies and advice. I believe the site to be one of the largest and for sure reputable on this site. I've always wanted to place sports bets but it is illegal in my state. Almost every website recommended this site for US betters while using VPN. And in fact I logged in using different countries for almost two months, and they never gave me any issues, so I thought it was kind of a "look the other" way type of thing. I did talk to customer service and they said there is absolutely nothing they can do until I submit KYC> They said no one has the ability to unlock my account except the security team, and they cannot talk directly with the customer. I kind of made peace with the winnings stuck in there, and no plan at the moment to try and retrieve it via a mule. |
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If someone in a non-restricted country fills out KYC (your mule) and is confronted with evidence of logging from a restricted country, they simply say "I was travelling and logged in at a friend's house".
If they say "you are using a different device", the mule says "I got another phone" or something reasonable.
Just have your story ready. But be prepared for the mule to take all your funds, or demand more than you initially bargain for. In which case, you could consider asking for collateral, though the mule might then think they are being scammed.
Just use common sense, plan and rehearse.
Ha, didn't know the other person is called a "mule." But yes, I was thinking about this. Technically I can come up with some clever rebuttal I can feed to my mule counter to all their accusations and there is no way for them to disprove it. But in the end I think they will simply give me some BS automated reply saying I broke ToS. Also, can't I simply get KYC docs from my mule and submit them myself? My mule would not even need access to the account. But the mule must have trust in me to be dealing with their personal info, and a promise to receive payment. Anyway, it all seems like too much of a hassle and the odds seemed stacked against me. Learned my lesson here. |
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Well from the looks of it, you have violated their TOS so that's ground for your account to be banned.
But the thing is that you have money there so their is the issue. I doubt though that you can get your money back for the simply fact, as I have said previously, there is a violation on your part. So sorry to burst the bubble for you, but chances are slim that you will get your $1,200.
So you think their just bullshitting me with this KYC request to unlock my account? Why not just tell me I violated TOS and be done with it? So they want all my info and then still lock me out? Because you will be in a rage if they tell you there is nothing you can do anymore and your money is theirs. So giving you at least a tiny glimpse of hope will make you breathe and chillax. Anyway once you give your KYC, there is no turning back and they will know you for sure and learn where you are from and exactly your address. So if you are so sure that you are tracked already and your IP address is known to them, I guess you already lose that $1200. Making your friend's friend do the KYC for a reward is worth trying since you are already in this stalemate situation. But don't get mad when your friend's friend also doesn't give you anything. That makes sense. Guess I'll just have to restart, was having a lot of fun with that $. Anyone know when we will get a web3 sports betting site? Are we still years away? Login with metamask, no email, all smart contracts. I thought this would be here by now in 2022. Sounds like a gold rush but there must be good reason why it's not here yet. |
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Well from the looks of it, you have violated their TOS so that's ground for your account to be banned.
But the thing is that you have money there so their is the issue. I doubt though that you can get your money back for the simply fact, as I have said previously, there is a violation on your part. So sorry to burst the bubble for you, but chances are slim that you will get your $1,200.
So you think their just bullshitting me with this KYC request to unlock my account? Why not just tell me I violated TOS and be done with it? So they want all my info and then still lock me out? |
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You should move this topic on gambling discussion board because this topic is related to casino with Bitcoin involve. Move it on this board https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=228.0. The casino will just use it against you in case you KYC using other person identity because they will detect the change of IP once your friend login your account to do it. Can you exposed the name of the casino so that we can help you to raise concern to them if ever they have an official account here. Overall your case is very crucial because you didn't read there ToS before you play. This is the common way of Casino to get free money from there user that playing on restricted country and using VPN to dodge it. Does your 1200$ worth of Bitcoin is came from winnings? Because Casino always use this reason incase players won. My bad, I'm new here and was looking for the right board. Not sure how to even move it? repost? I hessite to add their name because if they are on here I'm pretty use it's an automatic TOS violation and then I'm 100% screwed. I've deposited around $400 and withdrawn about $1,800 so far, with $1,200 still in the account. Yeah so that's all winning money in there... |
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I'm from the states and have been using a betting website to do some light sports betting. They do not allow US citizens and so I used a VPN to gain access. They only require an email address to create an account, and no KYC unless you want to buy crypto directly from them. I will not name the site for various reasons.
Anyways, sometimes I try to login to the site before setting my VPN and it simply tells me I'm in a restricted area. Never had any issues though, I just flip on the VPN and all good. I've been using this site for about 2 months now. Today I logged in and and it was requesting I input my phone number to proceed. It said I can withdraw funds but services were restricted until I enter my phone number. So I created a fake number from Hong Kong, and entered it in. It sent me a code and I entered it. Little did I know Hong Kong is also banned from this site (I know I know, I was just in a hurry to place a bet). Now my account is locked and they will not allow me access to even withdraw until I go through full KYC.
I have about $1,200 of BTC in there, nothing crazy. If I KYC myself they will simply say I broke their TOS and lock me out forever (I did the research on this already). KYC consists of ID, recent bills, and photo of yourself holding ID. The only piece of information this site has on me is an email address.
I have friends who have friends in other countries. Some of those friends of friends live in impoverished countries. What's stopping me from using them to KYC my account and then giving them a piece of the stuck funds? I would only need to gain access to retrieve the funds and would not continue to use the account or website.
Is this a good idea and do you think it will work? Worth the $1,200? My only hesitation at this point is asking the friend and they go through the hassle but then it goes sideways and still do not gain access to my account.
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