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But they use something "nonstandard derivation" for non-BTC coins and I haven't been able to import the seed into other wallets (Exodus, Trust wallet).
No need to import your seed phrase into other wallets. Create a new wallet and send all your coins to that. Note that both Exodus and trustwallet are close-source and there's a possibility that the same thing will happen to them. I personally would not open Atomic Wallet at this time, seems very risky. So importing the seed into another Wallet is a must to send the coins in a safe way. Greets. |
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Coinomi is close source, I can not recommend it.
Yeah, I know. They have a shady past and development is near zero. It was the first thing on hand and it did the job. Feel free to suggest other multi-coin desktop wallets with a built-in exchange. I think none are open source and really trustworthy? Did you import your Atomic wallet seed phrase on Electrum? Create another wallet on Electrum and transfer your coins there so that your coins can be safe.
Yep, I imported the seed and send the funds to an existing wallet of mine. What is sort of the same you said and has the same effect. Greets. |
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As of yet, not much real information in this topic... all assumptions for the moment...  Will be interesting to know what the real cause is! Malicious update, malicious dependency or a (long hidden) exploit or even an inside job? I'm a long time user of Atomic Wallet and never had any problems. Their multi-coin and built-in exchange was their biggest pro for me. Used it just for playing with alt coins and pocket money. I use the Windows desktop version (2.65.0) and haven't updated recently. I also didn't open the wallet recently, not sure exactly when I did last but surely it was more than 14 days ago. Checked my addresses via an online explorer and all funds were still there. Moved my BTC out with Electrum and moved my DOGE out with Coinomi. Beter safe than sorry! Greets. |
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Unfortunately, we are going back to your security model again. If your security model mitigates most attack vectors, you don't need to worry what is going on with the code in the features you aren't using.
Hmm... Seems everyone here want to discuss my security model instead of electrum's.
You are not accepting that this topic is about electrum's security model and not about mine. In your opinion I should mitigate all vulnerabilities and flaws that electrum has and will ever have. Twisted reasoning again, the software itself should be as secure as possible to begin with. Since we're going in circles, I'm not going to reply again if it's about my security model. Greets. |
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If you are a hodler like you said, and you use Electrum as a cold-storage (which I assume you do), how can a vulnerability in one of the features you don't like affect your wallet? If it's a properly set up cold-storage, no one can take advantage of anything over the Internet. It shouldn't be possible to establish a connection from your PC.
Hmm... Seems everyone here want to discuss my security model instead of electrum's.
To answer your question: Just as an example... Maybe a future (or present) feature can be used to activate the (built-in Wifi) network adapter of my device which I carefully disabled? Maybe it works as a trigger for other software or even OS components to start the network adapter? We will not know it until the day it actually happens. That's what they call vulnerabilities/exploits. I have said previously that I don't use Electrum's LN, but if I given a chance to get rid of it and my vote determines its future, I would vote against having it removed. Just because I don't need it, what right do I have to decide what others can do?
Even if i don't use that feature, someone else does and there's developer willing to implement and maintain it. But if no one willing to maintain it, i agree it's time to remove it gradually (starting from deprecation warning to actual removal after some time).
Strange that some people defend extra features (extra code) even if they are not using them...
Even more, I think it's very twisted reasoning to defend extra features because of others who remain silent in this topic. Also, I'm not asking the actual removal of features but merely suggesting there could be multiple electrum versions with different features or extra features could be offered via downloadable plugins/extensions. However, this is still a suggestion to fix something that isn't broken in the first place.
Right, you suggest that we wait until it's broken? We all know how all those wallets with lots of features end... with lots of vulnerabilities/bugs and very frequent (risky) updates! Electrum is the best and safest BTC (SPV) wallet we have today, let us keep it that way by keeping things simple. Greets. |
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I missed that. Tested and 100% working on my RTX 3070 Ti. Thanks! |
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Hmm... Seems everyone here want to discuss my security model instead of electrum's. Every software developer knows that removing (unused) code makes software less vulnerable because it reduces the attack surface. That's a fact. Strange that some people defend extra features (extra code) even if they are not using them... I was not looking for a solution, as I had no problem with electrum to begin with, but only venting an opinion to make electrum more safe en more user-friendly. @ Pmalek: FYI I see you merited a reply with false information. Electrum is suitable for hodlers. => https://electrum.readthedocs.io/en/latest/coldstorage.htmlHiding features doesn't make them go away. Hiding possible vulnerabilities doesn't make them go away... I do see where you are coming from, and I completely agree that unnecessary and extraneous features or tools add additional attack vectors. I've said as much before about a hardware wallet which has games on it, and about installing a bunch of other software on any device which you are using to hold large amounts of bitcoin. However, Lightning support (for example) is neither unnecessary nor extraneous. Electrum offers a wide range of functions which some users don't use, such as multi-sig wallets, coin control, RBF, Lightning, and so on. As bitcoin develops, then more features will be implemented, such as taproot. Many people want and use these features; some don't. If you don't want these features, then don't use them. If you feel they are posing an unnecessary risk for you, then use different software or a different set up which completely mitigates such attack vectors, such as an airgapped device. At least someone understands what I'm saying. Although you don't agree with me, you give a funded opinion. Greets. |
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If you are a hodler like you said in your first post, but you saw the arbitrary messages that malicious server operators posted in the past, you are using Electrum as a hot wallet and that's not the recommended way. The positive thing is that you didn't fall victim to the phishing messages. If you used Electrum as a cold wallet, you wouldn't have to worry about server messages, LN, invoices, etc. You can't drown if there is no water and if you are in a desert.  I never said I have only one wallet/setup/electrum/device. My hodling wallet and stacking wallet are on different devices and have a different setup. You can (if you want that) even run different setups/electrums on the same device by combining the installed, stand alone and portable versions of electrum. Sorry, I don't see it. If you don't want to use some of the features, don't do it. It really is that easy.
Electrum wasn't developed to fit just one type of person. I have never used an Invoice on Electrum. But I have also never clicked on it by mistake or just for the fun of it. I have never used the console tab either (can be switched on/off from the settings), but I have never accidently opened it when trying to generate an address. Just use the stuff you need and forget about those you don't.
Hiding features doesn't make them go away. Hiding possible vulnerabilities doesn't make them go away... Greets. |
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This could indeed be the one size fits all, although I still think unused features should be removed entirely (maybe available as downloadable extra modules). But features unused by you are not unused by everybody. ... We need figures to make sense. This was the purpose of this topic but nobody says if they actually using invoices or lightning other than for testing... Hiding isn't enough in my opinion, see above. If your concern is the attack vector presented by additional features, then your risk model is probably all messed up. ... I don't think my risk model is messed up as it's the only thing I don't have under my own control which I always consider the biggest risk. Servers sending malicious messages (in the past) illustrates this perfectly. The software didn't stop anything, my own caution saved me. Greets. |
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hello;
thanks for your nice miner
please add a feature to reset overclock and lock clock settings when quitting miner in windows
+1 That would save us a restart of the system after mining! I'm using a fixed Core Clock (through lolMiner) and have to restart the system to get rid of it. Even MSI Afterburner does not reset the core clock when I click "Reset". Greets. |
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What are you looking for from a software wallet every day if you are a hodler?
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Electrum can be used as a hot/cold and watch only wallet, so I don't see any problems there. It is my number one BTC (SPV) wallet. ...
Electrum could use some predefined modes. No changes in functionality at all, just (UI/visibility) settings. (I'd go for at least 3 levels though).
A newbie mode should have only the super basic tabs and buttons, a medium one would have more.. and the advanced users... can enable all they want in the (advanced) settings.
It could be a bit of work in the UI and finetuning the modes. And it clearly means a lot more settings to be made up, but the result may worth it.
This could indeed be the one size fits all, although I still think unused features should be removed entirely (maybe available as downloadable extra modules). If you don't use features, just hide them: Electrum > View > Hide Channels. ... If you really want to slim it down: it's open source  Hiding isn't enough in my opinion, see above. Yeah, I was hoping someone else would do that as I'm not smart enough to fork the project... Greets. |
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Just my opinion but I like to know how other Electrum users think of it.
I think Electrum has too many features for the average user and certainly for the hodler. I'm mainly a hodler and have no real use for invoices and the lightning parts in the wallet. Invoices is more for people who do many transactions or even for entrepreneurs who need the invoice part. Many people even get confused about it. The lightning part should be a separate wallet, if you ask me.
Something I remember considering safety is "the less features software has, the less the attack vector is for malware". For a hodler this is very important. For me an Electrum version with send and receive options including setting automatic and manual fees would be enough. Coin control is also very nice. That's about all I need.
What are your opinions? Would you prefer a slimmed down version (like the older 2.x and 3.x versions) or do you like it more the way it is now?
Greets.
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You may want to test if a "User-Agent Switcher" is all you need. I saw this extension/plugin solve many incompatibility problems. You can download it from the different stores for Chrome and Firefox. Setting the desired browser and OS may simply solve your problem.
Greets.
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After all what happened in the past, I wouldn't advise to use Coinomi. Having bugs is "normal" but it's how you react that counts. Their team completely failed at that...
The only use case I had for it was when claiming my BTG from my empty BTC addresses. The process was easy and worked correct.
Greets.
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I use Atomic Wallet for storing small amounts of alt coins. I've used the built-in exchange a few times and everything works as expected. It supports many coins (even staking) and is frequently updated. You can export the seed and private keys. Maybe give this a try? Greets. |
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Thanks for your tips and insights! Adding additional cooling fans or changing the thermal pads isn't really an option since the PC is brand new. Installed MSI Afterburner and started testing... - Core clock -200 doesn't work since the LHR tuning needs a fixed/locked core clock to work correct - Lowering the memory clock lowered the memory temp but killed the hash rate - Lowering the power limit doesn't work since the LHR tuning bumps into it Also see: https://github.com/Lolliedieb/lolMiner-releases/wiki/Nvidia-LHR-and-Kernel-ModeI ended up with something else that more or less works: - Set a fixed core clock at 900 via lolMiner itself (--cclk 900) - Made a custom fan profile with MSI Afterburner including higher fan speeds I now have slightly better memory temps of 98-102°C which seems good enough since I only mine 5-10 hours a day. Screenshot: https://imgur.com/a/o9FprFbGreets. |
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First of all thanks for this fantastic miner!
Today I updated to version 1.48 and saw a mem temp of 100-103°C. Is that too much? Anything I can do to lower it?
OS: Windows 10
Video card: RTX 3070 Ti (LHR)
Extra settings: --cclk 990
Thanks for your answer.
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