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1  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Perdi 60% das Minhas Criptomoedas e Estou Muito Deprimido on: August 06, 2024, 04:08:59 PM
Boa sorte amigo !
2  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Na opinião de vocês, qual seria a nova ATH antes do crash ? on: March 12, 2024, 04:36:48 PM
A história mostra que o topo deve acontecer de 8-12 meses depois do rompimento da ATH.. eu acredito que a história deve se repetir.

Na opinião de vocês, qual seria a nova ATH antes do crash que provavelmente deve ser de 40-70%.. ?

Na minha humilde ignorância acredito que deve ser por volta de 100-120k..

Gostaria de saber oque vocês acham disso.. Obrigado amigos, e como sempre.. HODL   Cool
3  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Pergunta sobre a Bisq on: March 04, 2024, 03:54:30 AM
Realmente sempre não é viável, pelo menos no mercado em reais, somente valores altos e com preços bem mais altos doque de mercado..
4  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Pergunta sobre a Bisq on: January 31, 2024, 05:04:37 PM
Nunca usei a bisq antes, tenho curiosidade e quero usar, pelo oque eu vi da para pagar com o pix.. Seria essa melhor forma de pagamento?

Gostaria de saber de usuários aqui do fórum se realmente é tranquilo comprar por la, no sentido que não dá problema, ou tem que tomar alguns cuidados, desculpa a pergunta meio boba, só não quero tomar um golpe Tongue

5  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Pergunta sobre BTC Lightning Network on: January 17, 2024, 04:02:37 PM
Obrigado amigos, vi a LN como algo util no sentido, por ex. estou fazendo DCA com 1 compra por semana na corretora X.. essa correta vamos dizer que cobra 25$ de taxa para retirar de la e mandar para minha hardwallet.. oque pensei em fazer seria.. comprar e retirar cada compra da corretora usando a LN, pagando taxas menores e eviando para por exemplo: muun wallet, e quando der um valor que justifique pagar a taxa de 25$, mando da LN novamente para a corretora X e dai pago os 25$..  

Faz sentido eu fazer isso, ou estou dando voltas desnecessarias ? Depois da FTX quero evitar ao maximo deixar qualquer coisa em corretoras.

E se eu mandar direto da muun wallet para minha hardwallet  Huh ? Sendo que os BTC na muun wallet estao na LN... Acho que vai dar errado ne.. preciso mandar para por ex. binance antes para fazer a conversao ? Esse tipo de conversao que estou falando.. talvez nao usei a palavra certa.
6  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Pergunta sobre BTC Lightning Network on: January 17, 2024, 04:43:23 AM
Tenho uma duvida.. por exemplo para enviar btc da rede principal para por ex. a muun wallet na Lightning Network... eu preciso de algum aplicativo ou meio de conversao antes ? Eu sei que existe alguns por ex. strike, acho que binance tambem faz essa conversao agora, etc..

ou eu posso enviar direto da rede principal do btc para um endereco da Lightning Network, exemplo: direito da minha hardwallet como uma ledger ou trezor para um endereco da Lightning Network ?

Se for necessario algum meio de conversao antes, qual o melhor usar ?


7  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Proteja sua conta! Post seu endereço. on: January 17, 2024, 04:30:51 AM
Agora uma duvida, como eu consegui com as mesmas seeds, gerar uma carteira que produzia enderecos bc1, e tambem outra com enderecos comecando com 1.. eu posso enviar BTC pra qualquer um dos dois enderecos, e depois retirar da carteira independente do jeito que eu importar as seeds, ou ex: os bitcoins que enviei para o endereco comecando com 1, so vou conseguir retirar se fazer toda essa configuracao do bip39.. m/44'/0'/0' na electrum, etc.. ? Eu ate estou para fazer esse teste.. so que as taxas de transacao do btc estao meio altas, com essa volatilidade  Grin, vou esperar abaixar um pouco.
8  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Proteja sua conta! Post seu endereço. on: January 17, 2024, 04:12:39 AM
Minha dúvida pode parecer bem idiota, mas eu uso uma LEDGER NANO X já tem uns dois anos... e eu gostaria muito de fazer essa assinatura na minha carteira para vincular a minha conta do fórum, mas não faço a menor idéia de como fazer isso.. Alguém me ajuda?

Precisa conectar sua ledger na electrum e assinar por lá

https://support.ledger.com/hc/pt-br/articles/115005161925-Configurar-e-usar-Electrum



Nao aparece essa opcao na hora de importar as seed, estou usando electrum-4.5.0

É na tela seguinte.

Você criou sua carteira na electrum ou em outra? See foi em outra, marque bip39

Muito obrigado, deu certo ! Cliquei em Receive, e apareceu meu endereco que usei aqui no forum: 1924icW7d7b16SUhUwjxEquhsp2L4wAfDv

Tive que selecionar: bip39 nas opcoes e depois adicionar m/44'/0'/0' no tipo de endereco conforme @sabotag3x postou.. apos fazer isso deu certo !

9  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Proteja sua conta! Post seu endereço. on: January 15, 2024, 08:23:37 PM
Eu criei essa carteira na electrum mesmo, com ajuda do pessoal aqui do forum nesse post.
10  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Proteja sua conta! Post seu endereço. on: January 15, 2024, 07:44:34 PM
Nao aparece essa opcao na hora de importar as seed, estou usando electrum-4.5.0


11  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Proteja sua conta! Post seu endereço. on: January 15, 2024, 07:15:10 PM
Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Today is Dec.12.2022 and I am Jayjones from the bitcointalk.org forum. declare 1924icW7d7b16SUhUwjxEquhsp2L4wAfDv is mine
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1924icW7d7b16SUhUwjxEquhsp2L4wAfDv
H0COisKzwFeBOFcvOkm7d3hlSbEgjFSyo/OQhbmkOYYCYKJyh/BQg2F7rJ2GnJp19cYdRZEOsQqvMlCoE9pIa7Y=
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Estou até orgulhoso agora desse endereço começando com 1  Grin

Muito obrigado amigos do fórum, consegui !!!

Ola amigos formatei o computador entao perdi o arquivo da electrum, mas possuo todas minhas seeds, ao importar a carteira ela somente gera enderecos comecando com bc1... como faco para recuperar esse meu endereco 1924icW7d7b16SUhUwjxEquhsp2L4wAfDv e gerar enderecos comecando com 1 novamente ? Sera que fiz algo de errado ao importas as seed ?

12  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Quais Exchanges são Brasileiras ou possuem Filial regularizada no Brasil. on: January 15, 2024, 06:31:03 PM
Alguem poderia me explicar, qual a desvantagem de usar uma exchange de fora, por exemplo.. Binance ? Obrigado

A partir de 01/01/2024, as exchanges que não forem sediadas no Brasil vão ser enquadradas como investimento internacional e será cobrado 15% de imposto no lucro em todas as operações.

As nacionais mantém a isenção de até 35k mensais em vendas. Até 30k sem a necessidade de informar a receita quanto a venda.

Obrigado entendi, mas outra pergunta se eu comprar na binance e vender na coinext por exemplo que esta no brasil, estou insento no imposto ?
13  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: ETFs podem '' aumentar'' a quantidade de Bitcoin existentes no mundo? on: January 14, 2024, 06:26:56 AM
Ate o momento que o sistema financeiro ou governo atual ficar obsoleto ou quebrar.. quando isso acontecer so vai sobrar o bitcoin.. esse etf so esta bombando pq esta sendo negociado nos eua, apartir do momento que isso nao for mais relevante.. so sobra o bitcoin
14  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BREAKING: Bitcoin ETF $ARKB and $HODL is listed on Fidelity 😎 on: January 11, 2024, 12:13:44 AM
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Only topic and just pictures without any write up?
Then how can we know that you understand what you are saying?

Just one update on the bitcoin etf saga, I tough it was interesting..
15  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / BREAKING: Bitcoin ETF $ARKB and $HODL is listed on Fidelity 😎 on: January 10, 2024, 06:11:28 PM


16  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Bitcoin ETF $ARKB e $HODL LISTADO na Fidelity !! 😎 on: January 10, 2024, 06:08:24 PM
A nota oficial ainda nao saiu, mas ja da pra encontrar no broker fidelity os tickers ARKB e HODL.... haha achei super legal eles colocarem hodl no ticker



17  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: ETF BITCOIN APROVADO - SEC on: January 09, 2024, 09:36:33 PM
Gary Gensler disse no twitter que hackearam a conta da SEC... omg  Huh ?! Volatilidade no BTC ta alta

https://twitter.com/GaryGensler/status/1744833049064288387

The @SECGov twitter account was compromised, and an unauthorized tweet was posted. The SEC has not approved the listing and trading of spot bitcoin exchange-traded products.
18  Local / Português (Portuguese) / ETF BITCOIN APROVADO ? - CONTA SEC HACKEADA on: January 09, 2024, 09:32:26 PM
ETF APROVADO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   Cool hodl !
 

https://twitter.com/SECGov/status/1744829327294837236


U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission
@SECGov

Today the SEC grants approval for #Bitcoin ETFs for listing on all registered national securities exchanges.
 
The approved Bitcoin ETFs will be subject to ongoing surveillance and compliance measures to ensure continued investor protection.
19  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Carta de um viajante no tempo sobre 2025 on: January 09, 2024, 12:30:57 AM
Alguem aqui lembra desse post do reddit ? HAHA... Por mais que seja invencao, nao deixa de ser algo interressante de ler... e ai ? Aguma possibilidade de acontecer de verdade ? Qual opniao de voces... Eu acho meio dificil, hodl.

OP: https://np.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1lfobc/i_am_a_timetraveler_from_the_future_here_to_beg/




I am sending this message from the year 2025. Things are looking bleak here, and some of you will carry blood on your hands.

If you don't believe me, please move on, as I have no way of proving to you I'm really who I claim to be.

I don't want to waste any of your time, so I'm merely going to explain what happened.

On average, every year so far, the value of Bitcoin has increased by about a factor ten. From 0.1 dollar in 2010, to 1 dollar in 2011, to 10 dollar in 2012, to 100 dollar in 2013. From now on, there's a slight slowdown, as the value increased by a factor ten every two years, to 1,000 dollar in 2015, to 10,000 in 2017, 100,000 in 2019, and 1,000,000 in 2021. From here onwards, there's no good way of expressing its value in dollars, as the dollar is no longer used, nor is any central bank issued currency for that matter. There are two main forms of wealth in today's world. Land and cryptocurrency.

There are just over 19 million Bitcoin known to be used in the world today, as well as a few hundred thousand that were permanently lost, and we're still dealing with a population of just over 7 billion people today. On average, this means the average person owns just under 0.003 bitcoin. However, due to the unequal distribution of wealth in my world, the mean person owns just 0.001 bitcoin. That's right, most of you reading this today are rich. I personally live next to an annoying young man who logged into his old Reddit account two years ago and discovered that he received a tip of 0.01 Bitcoin back in 2013 for calling someone a "faggot" when he was a 16 year old boy. Upon making this discovery he bought an airline ticket, left his house without telling anyone anything and went to a Citadel.

"What is a Citadel?" you might wonder. Well, by the time Bitcoin became worth 1,000 dollar, services began to emerge for the "Bitcoin rich" to protect themselves as well as their wealth. It started with expensive safes, then began to include bodyguards, and today, "earlies" (our term for early adapters), as well as those rich whose wealth survived the "transition" live in isolated gated cities called Citadels, where most work is automated. Most such Citadels are born out of the fortification used to protect places where Bitcoin mining machines are located. The company known as ASICminer to you is known to me as a city where Mr. Friedman rules as a king.

In my world, soon to be your world, most governments no longer exist, as Bitcoin transactions are done anonymously and thus most governments can enforce no taxation on their citizens. Most of the success of Bitcoin is due to the fact that Bitcoin turned out to be an effective method to hide your wealth from the government. Whereas people entering "rogue states" like Luxemberg, Monaco and Liechtenstein were followed by unmanned drones to ensure that governments know who is hiding wealth, no such option was available to stop people from hiding their money in Bitcoin.

Governments tried to stay relevant in my society by buying Bitcoin, which just made the problem worse, by increasing the value of Bitcoin. Governments did so in secret of course, but my generation's "Snowdens" are in fact greedy government employees who transferred Bitcoin to their own private account, and escaped to anarchic places where no questions are asked as long as you can cough up some money.

The four institutions with the largest still accessible Bitcoin balance are believed to be as following:

-ASICminer - 50,000 Bitcoin

-The IMF's "currency stabilization fund" - 70,000 Bitcoin

-Government of Saudi Arabia - 110,000 Bitcoin

-The North Korean government - 180,000 Bitcoin

Economic growth today is about -2% per year. Why is this? If you own more than 0.01 Bitcoin, chances are you don't do anything with your money. There is no inflation, and thus no incentive to invest your money. Just like the medieval ages had no significant economic growth, as wealth was measured in gold, our society has no economic growth either, as people know their 0.01 Bitcoin will be enough to last them a lifetime. The fact that there are still new Bitcoin released is what prevents our world from collapse so far it seems, but people fear that the decline in inflation that will occur during the next block halving may further wreck our economy.

What happened to the Winklevoss twins? The Winklevoss twins were among the first to die. After seeing the enormous damage done to the fabric of society, terrorist movements emerged that sought to hunt down and murder anyone known to have a large balance of Bitcoin, or believed to be responsible in any way for the development of cryptocurrency. Ironically, these terrorist movements use Bitcoin to anonymously fund their operations.

Most people who own any significant amount of Bitcoin no longer speak to their families and lost their friends, because they had to change their identities. There have been also been a few suicides of people who could not handle the guilt after seeing what happened to the bag-holders, the type of skeptical people who continued to believe it would eventually collapse, even after hearing the rumors of governments buying Bitcoin. Many people were taken hostage, and thus, it is suspected that 25% percent of "Bitcoin rich" actually physically tortured someone to get him to spill his password.

Why didn't we abandon Bitcoin, and move to another system? Well, we tried of course. We tried to step over to an inflationary cryptocurrency, but nobody with an IQ above 70 was willing to step up first and volunteer. After all, why would you voluntarily invest a lot of your money into a currency where you know your wealth will continually decline? The thing that made Bitcoin so dangerous to society was also what made it so successful. Bitcoin allows us to give into our greed.

In Africa, surveys show that an estimated 70% of people believe that Bitcoin was invented by the devil himself. There's a reason for this. It's a very sensitive issue that today is generally referred to as "the tragedy". The African Union had ambitious plans to help its citizens be ready to step over to Bitcoin. Governments gave their own citizens cell phones for free, tied to their government ID, and thus government sought to integrate Bitcoin into their economy. All went well, until "the tragedy" that is. A criminal organization, believed to be located in Russia, exploited a hardware fault in the government issued cell phones. It's believed that the entire continent of Africa lost an estimated 60% of its wealth in a period of 48 hours. What followed was a period of chaos and civil war, until the Saudi Arabian and North Korean governments, two of the world's major superpowers due to their authoritarian political system's unique ability to adapt to the "Bitcoin challenge", divided most African land between themselves and were praised as heroes by the local African population for it.

You might wonder, what is our plan now? It's clear that the current situation can not be sustained, without ending in a nuclear holocaust. I am part of an underground network, who seek to launch a coordinated attack against the very infrastructure of the Internet itself. We have at our disposal about 20 nuclear submarines, which we will use to cut all underwater cables between different continents. After this has been successfully achieved, we will launch a simultaneous nuclear pulse attack on every densely population area of the world. We believe that the resulting chaos will allow the world's population to rise up in revolt, and destroy as many computers out there as possible, until we reach the point where Bitcoin loses any relevance.

Of course, this outcome will likely lead to billions of deaths. This is a price we are forced to pay, to avoid the eternal enslavement of humanity to a tiny elite.

This is also the reason we contacted you.

It doesn't have to be like this. You do not have to share our fate. I don't know how, but you must find a way to destroy this godforsaken project in its infancy. I know this is a difficult thing to ask of you. You believed you were helping the world by eliminating the central banking cartel that governs your economies.

However, I have seen where it ends.
20  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Quais Exchanges são Brasileiras ou possuem Filial regularizada no Brasil. on: January 08, 2024, 04:43:02 PM
Alguem poderia me explicar, qual a desvantagem de usar uma exchange de fora, por exemplo.. Binance ? Obrigado
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