Working w/ kids since 83 I always remind them when a dispute arises try your best to make friends.

Obviously I'm the new guy here. I tried offering a beer, a nice day by the beach...which you'll probably visit anyway though traffic on weekends in summer sucks. I've got a spare 2 man kayak...bring a date...in fact (lemme count) 3 spare kayaks, a sculling/fast canoe, 2 paddleboads...bring some kids...

And after all that while I'm sure Kano is a nice guy and I'm just an asshole trying to help at risk kids while giving him more customers, and help climate actvists - I run GretaThunberg.com where millions of kids MIGHT need a few bucks from software (which would be a bit ironic given power usage) and her European followers - helped one w/ a U.N. doc yesterday - anyways...it's hard to send kids into the jaws of hostile adults.

You folks have a great weekend and I'll see if I can find someone else to help compile this thing or gut the code and rewrite it...dunno.

You have a hostile approach towards someone trying to promote your products or suggest tutorials, so I'll stand by the statement you're losing more customers than you acquire.

Your statements about threats is an example; I simply wouldn't ask kids to engage with a product with a hostile support crew or unwillingness to develop sane, easy to follow tutorials rather than trying to lock people into Ubuntu which seems self-destructive. It's like a closed architecture Apple approach and counter to the open source concepts.

Since you have such a long stellar software background I don't know why you wouldn't write a shell script - as I have 1000 times and am sure you have - that generates any missing files required for the compile step. For example if you need the CPU clock speed, port or ram or usb info it'd seem like a piece of cake since you know what data is required, and rather than make it a hard coded file, a simple flat file cfg to be read is common enough.

Normally if I write somrthing I make sure it'll work on a wide variety of systems. Many sites don't and most only test for Chrome browsers...and lose customers. As for a "threat" about usb mining reading your docs implies they may be a waste of money given power issues you described. I'd have thought since you've been doing this for a decade and profit from new users you'd have a fat library of "Here are hardware purchase options" "Here are card vs usb dongle options" "Here are 5-10 different methds of compiling depeding on your platform". You have 1 Linux, a Windows and an Apple which makes the most practical method for a lot of people to compile and run it in Wine...which seems pretty silly, but I know tutorials and making products truly useful to a wide spectrum of people is a pain.

At least it appears you have followers who chuckle at your jokes. Kewl.

Think about it and let me know if you ever decide to expand your tutorial, config and compile horizons.

I didn't mean to abuse you and figured you'd be in HMB someday soon and a beer was my pleasure.

Having written software since 1979 in 22 languages on darn near every device made and landing a bride who said "I liked the software so much I married the Progranmer" I thought perhaps I could help you fix your docs and tutorials so more people could access them easier.

You're losing customers...a lot of them...much more than you're acquiring....but are doing well enough so no big deal.

I'll tell the kids to look elsewhere and tell sidehack 30 kids x3-5 boards or $10K\semester just ain't in the pipe on this puppy.

Have a great weekend and let me know if you are ever in HMB - burningwoodenleg@gmail - or want to work up a tutorial EVERYONE can follow.

Another option...just a thought...

Alot of apt-gits I've seen are just tgz gz or tar files.

I can teach you how to make a TAR file if that'd make it easier.

A zip is fine too...

I think an apt-get normally gets/fetchs a file...not sure

After a couple of those I saw

I saw

sudo apt-get install -y build-essential autoconf automake libtool pkg-config libcurl4-openssl-dev libudev-dev libusb-1.0-0-dev libncurses5-dev zlib1g-dev git

folllwed later by a MAKE

No one in the forums I go to can decypher or would decypher your files for a different distro.

As I think I mentioned I'm try to promote your product to my students but I can tell them you're either too busy or too rich to give a f about those kids OR you can come to HMB and I buy you a beer and we do it together...just a thought.

Yes that's the page I read - correct - did not see how to get config.h

FOUND THIS but I am not running redhat.

Is there a WGET or CURL command and url or direct link?

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade -y
sudo apt-get install -y build-essential autoconf automake libtool pkg-config libcurl4-openssl-dev libudev-dev libusb-1.0-0-dev libncurses5-dev zlib1g-dev git
cd
git clone https://github.com/kanoi/cgminer.git
cd cgminer
CFLAGS="-O2 -march=native -fcommon" ./autogen.sh --enable-gekko --enable-icarus
make
sudo apt-get install -y openjdk-8-jre-headless

Did not see a section on config.h

Is there a page that talks about compiling on Linux?

COMPILING CGMINER

Bombs on config.h not found

Stuck

Using LINUX and GCC on a laptop

I don't know if the USB board by ?sidekick?sidehack? (I forget...gotta go find them) would work.

I built bought the domain, built the website and am building the LINUX distro and will try compiling CGMINER.

I'd like to create a CURL POST to automatically register a user with Kano Pool.

If you want I can write the Perl CGI so it dumps user data onto your server or provide a webpage you can wget on mine.

I'd also like to create a YOU'RE UP! confirmation post so users can see a little icon on their screen indicating they connected to you and you're waiting for...?not sure?

I do not believe all Linux systems are equally fast and reliable.

After 30 years buying homes and Porsches with money I made servicing DOS and Windows customers, first in the early days of migrating mainframe-bound corps onto Novell networked PCs running DOS-based custom-coded accounting systems I wrote, then later, giving them GUI based systems, AND owning computer sales and service stores, it was always my hope&prayer Microsoft would produce just ONE operating system release that wasn't a crash-and-burn/blue-screen/lost-data/pissed-customer disaster. Windows 2000 was the only one a few mags suggested to be as reliable as a clunky UNIX system, but critical-operation clients like hospitals and a nuclear power plant required I build recovery processes in for daily disasters like frozen screens and some secretary calling me in tears. Finally, in 2010 I watched a long painful recovery/rebuild/reinstall of a Windows system crash and burn the next day (possibly a virus) and I said F-IT I can't keep recommending anyone use this half-baked junk and had better dust off my Unix/Mainframe skills and learn how to work w/ Linux, code, compile and configure for Linux, and deliver systems that don't crash.

My criteria for "a distro" was a) reliability across a wide range of memory and CPUs b) speed  crunching large files c) availability of office apps (I don't want to have to code a damn word processor eh?) d) availability of multi-media apps like sound and video editors and e) ability to run some Windows/DOS programs without rebooting, which WINE and QEMU did, since a few of my early clients were addicted to DOS and Win 3.11 programs I had made for their biz.

So I tested about 20 distros out of over 200 I found, ran speed tests, reliability, app availability etc. and finally figured I'd have to build one - and built two - which have served me well for 15 years...

I do not believe all Linux systems are equally fast and reliable (I better put that sentence at the top).

Yes, a few are almost as fast as what I built but none have that benefit AND are halfway easy to use AND can serve as an office environment desktop and boot easily from a USB, though that is more common now.

Turning this learning process towards mining, I read the OS-BOUND CPU isn't really the bottleneck in the mining, so perhaps there's no difference in speed between a Windows/Linux/fast Linux system since the whole idea of mining moves the burden of calculating off to daughter-board chips, Since I am a total newbie to this world I can't say a screaming fast motherboard CPU and OS is going to make much if any difference, but as I get more experience I will (maybe) find out.

Perhaps a plug-and-play LINUX distro built for mining is in the cards. But what I do know is the students (and a couple of clients) asked so I stumbled in here with a kinderkid's knowledge base to figure out what kind of hardware config to try first and liked Sidehacks USB approach and the "theoretical" possibility you can build a system off an old Atom motherboard using 10 - 25 watts in a little MINI-ITX case with some USB dongles and poof! A child can mine.

That vision kind of evaporated when I saw the heat sinks Sidehack has on their products and I'll guess overall wattage is going to be smoking hot. I read somewhere people use mining rigs to heat their homes which leads this newbie talk to the subject of zero-cost electricity designs along with questions I have about pooled vs solo mining which I best save for another post.

I teach a tech class for kids (since 1983) where kids walk out with a free PC they built on day one...

...and they're hammering me to teach them to set up a miner on LINUX, so....

a) I guess CGMINER ... ? Any thoughts?

b) And Kano? Is that a good fit?

Can the speed of the underlying LINUX DISTRO affect Sidehacks performance?

I ask b/c I developed 2 lightning fast LINUX distros used by medical clients like hospitals which took tasks that ran 2 weeks of data for 1 hospital that required 5 hours to process 26 weeks of data for 2 hospitals in 72 seconds.

It boots off USB and a lot of my students use USB only devices so I wondered if I can steer them towards building machines w/ Sidehacks boards, but instead of sluggish LINUX distros base them on mine.

Any thoughts?