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1  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Pollard's kangaroo ECDLP solver on: May 19, 2023, 12:33:22 PM
Hey, guys! somebody can explain me why ive got error :
Code:
D:\kangaroo>kangaroo.exe -wm 125.save 1252.save
Kangaroo v2.2
MergeWork: destination argument missing

this is -winfo
Code:
Loading: 1252.save
Version   : 0
DP bits   : 33
Start     : 10000000000000000000000000000000
Stop      : 1FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Key       : 0233709EB11E0D4439A729F21C2C443DEDB727528229713F0065721BA8FA46F00E
Count     : 2238135375233024 2^50.991
Time      : 6.7d
DP Size   : 10.0/17.0MB
DP Count  : 261003 2^17.994
HT Max    : 8 [@ 0074C5]
HT Min    : 0 [@ 000003]
HT Avg    : 1.00
HT SDev   : 1.00
Kangaroos : 0 2^-inf

Loading: 125.save
Version   : 0
DP bits   : 33
Start     : 10000000000000000000000000000000
Stop      : 1FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Key       : 0233709EB11E0D4439A729F21C2C443DEDB727528229713F0065721BA8FA46F00E
Count     : 1982479057551360 2^50.816
Time      : 6.0d
DP Size   : 9.0/29.8MB
DP Count  : 231003 2^17.818
HT Max    : 8 [@ 0074C5]
HT Min    : 0 [@ 000003]
HT Avg    : 0.88
HT SDev   : 0.94
Kangaroos : 67108864 2^26.000

MergeWork: destination argument missing = you are missing the 3rd argument.

If you are trying to merge 2 different work files, you have to tell it what to save it as; merge file1 file2 file3 = merge file1 and file2 and save it as file3
after merge result file have 15mb, but! work file 6gb each other
2  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Pollard's kangaroo ECDLP solver on: May 19, 2023, 10:53:51 AM
Hey, guys! somebody can explain me why ive got error :
Code:
D:\kangaroo>kangaroo.exe -wm 125.save 1252.save
Kangaroo v2.2
MergeWork: destination argument missing

this is -winfo
Code:
Loading: 1252.save
Version   : 0
DP bits   : 33
Start     : 10000000000000000000000000000000
Stop      : 1FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Key       : 0233709EB11E0D4439A729F21C2C443DEDB727528229713F0065721BA8FA46F00E
Count     : 2238135375233024 2^50.991
Time      : 6.7d
DP Size   : 10.0/17.0MB
DP Count  : 261003 2^17.994
HT Max    : 8 [@ 0074C5]
HT Min    : 0 [@ 000003]
HT Avg    : 1.00
HT SDev   : 1.00
Kangaroos : 0 2^-inf

Loading: 125.save
Version   : 0
DP bits   : 33
Start     : 10000000000000000000000000000000
Stop      : 1FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Key       : 0233709EB11E0D4439A729F21C2C443DEDB727528229713F0065721BA8FA46F00E
Count     : 1982479057551360 2^50.816
Time      : 6.0d
DP Size   : 9.0/29.8MB
DP Count  : 231003 2^17.818
HT Max    : 8 [@ 0074C5]
HT Min    : 0 [@ 000003]
HT Avg    : 0.88
HT SDev   : 0.94
Kangaroos : 67108864 2^26.000
3  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: == Bitcoin challenge transaction: ~1000 BTC total bounty to solvers! ==UPDATED== on: May 17, 2023, 09:37:31 AM
All programs from JLP are perfectly optimized and if it were possible to improve the result, then the author would definitely do it.

To "double the speed" there is only one solution.
This is to use not only the addition of the kangaroo jump, but also the subtraction.
This will not require many resources, but will double the number of tested points and thus the number of  distinguished points.
But it will also slow down the progress of all kangaroos.
Can this help, maybe, or maybe it will just overload the hash table with extra distinguished points.
With this modification also need to turn off the check for dead kangaroos, because a kangaroo hitting the same position that was left
after the subtraction does not mean that the kangaroo is following the trail of another kangaroo.
But as i said above, the author would have done it if it had worked.
Im agree with you! I just wanna know how much speed kangaroo have with 4090 in Stock WO powerlimit..May be I doing something wrong but my speed on 4090 nearly Tesla V100 32Gb  1420 MKey/sec speeds



Out the box, non modded Kangaroo with 128x128 grid size. Should be in the 2200-2300 range.
how much size have work file saved by 4090?
4  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: == Bitcoin challenge transaction: ~1000 BTC total bounty to solvers! ==UPDATED== on: May 16, 2023, 05:28:30 PM
All programs from JLP are perfectly optimized and if it were possible to improve the result, then the author would definitely do it.

To "double the speed" there is only one solution.
This is to use not only the addition of the kangaroo jump, but also the subtraction.
This will not require many resources, but will double the number of tested points and thus the number of  distinguished points.
But it will also slow down the progress of all kangaroos.
Can this help, maybe, or maybe it will just overload the hash table with extra distinguished points.
With this modification also need to turn off the check for dead kangaroos, because a kangaroo hitting the same position that was left
after the subtraction does not mean that the kangaroo is following the trail of another kangaroo.
But as i said above, the author would have done it if it had worked.
Im agree with you! I just wanna know how much speed kangaroo have with 4090 in Stock WO powerlimit..May be I doing something wrong but my speed on 4090 nearly Tesla V100 32Gb  1420 MKey/sec speeds
5  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: == Bitcoin challenge transaction: ~1000 BTC total bounty to solvers! ==UPDATED== on: May 16, 2023, 02:30:35 PM
Quote
 Perhaps you have a modified kangaroo? what settings did you use to achieve this speed?

Yes, I modified the Kangaroo code.
Then what's the point of talking about the speed of the modified program? I can also set a multiplier of 2 or 3 in the speed test section to get the speed that I would like to see...duddde
What's the point of talking or asking questions at all on here? It appears you are shady if you would set something you would like to see, just to report it...duddde
Shady's here is your proposal to mine for you a puzzle in pool with your "modified" super program with 4x speed)))
6  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: == Bitcoin challenge transaction: ~1000 BTC total bounty to solvers! ==UPDATED== on: May 16, 2023, 09:30:11 AM
Quote
  Perhaps you have a modified kangaroo? what settings did you use to achieve this speed?

Yes, I modified the Kangaroo code.
Then what's the point of talking about the speed of the modified program? I can also set a multiplier of 2 or 3 in the speed test section to get the speed that I would like to see...duddde
7  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: == Bitcoin challenge transaction: ~1000 BTC total bounty to solvers! ==UPDATED== on: May 16, 2023, 04:31:26 AM
Quote
  Results of RTX4090 is something of beautiful ! But, what do you mean when you say 7.7 Gkey/s?

Because what I understand is that you anaylize and execute 7.7 Ghash/sec of ripemd160(sha256(publickeycompressed(privatekey)), is it right?

No, I wish we could get that speed, then #66 would be in reach!

Remember, in Kangaroo, we are looking for distinguished points of the x point. So to keep it simple, it’s publickey(privatekey) and check for x amount of trailing distinguished points (could be leading DPs as well).
The more complicated are the jumps but really it’s a set stride(s) that all Kangaroos follow…a path of sorts, until a wild one lands on a tame one.

The wilds require one extra calculation but it’s either one more step of adding or subtracting, based on your version of Kangaroo.


how much realy speed rtx 4090 Kangaroo?
Real speed was posted. 7.7 GKey/s, for a single RTX 4090.
Perhaps you have a modified kangaroo? what settings did you use to achieve this speed?
8  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: == Bitcoin challenge transaction: ~1000 BTC total bounty to solvers! ==UPDATED== on: May 15, 2023, 07:47:33 PM
Quote
  Results of RTX4090 is something of beautiful ! But, what do you mean when you say 7.7 Gkey/s?

Because what I understand is that you anaylize and execute 7.7 Ghash/sec of ripemd160(sha256(publickeycompressed(privatekey)), is it right?

No, I wish we could get that speed, then #66 would be in reach!

Remember, in Kangaroo, we are looking for distinguished points of the x point. So to keep it simple, it’s publickey(privatekey) and check for x amount of trailing distinguished points (could be leading DPs as well).
The more complicated are the jumps but really it’s a set stride(s) that all Kangaroos follow…a path of sorts, until a wild one lands on a tame one.

The wilds require one extra calculation but it’s either one more step of adding or subtracting, based on your version of Kangaroo.


how much realy speed rtx 4090 Kangaroo?
9  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: == Bitcoin challenge transaction: ~100 BTC total bounty to solvers! ==UPDATED== on: May 15, 2023, 01:59:40 PM
I always like numbers!
First, what is this modified kangaroo program?
Verified that a 3090 gets 4.8G Key/s

This is not JeanLucPons version of Kangaroo
this have a lot of unnecessary checks that slow down the process.

The plain cuda version of secp256k1 and several optimize changes have this speed.

RTX 3070 with power limit 170w 2.4 GKey/s  GPU Ram Usage 3.5GB
RTX 3090 with power limit 350w 4.8 GKey/s  GPU Ram Usage 8.0GB

And one dedicated server for check
have 32GB RAM ( 8gb+ ram need for bloom filters )
~140Gb of nvme used for kvrocks storage for store 2^31.10 of DP32
or 35Gb if use DP34

ps4all. Possibly I'll find time for compare if you have dp's (or work file fromJeanLucPons Kangaroo ) for still determine 120 and check wild/tame and later
(in compared dp's included buyed from zielar)

But i rarely come here.
how can you compare that to the speed of a kangaroo? it's a different program
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