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Perhaps you have a modified kangaroo? what settings did you use to achieve this speed? Yes, I modified the Kangaroo code. Then what's the point of talking about the speed of the modified program? I can also set a multiplier of 2 or 3 in the speed test section to get the speed that I would like to see...duddde
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Perhaps you have a modified kangaroo? what settings did you use to achieve this speed? Yes, I modified the Kangaroo code. Then what's the point of talking about the speed of the modified program? I can also set a multiplier of 2 or 3 in the speed test section to get the speed that I would like to see...duddde What's the point of talking or asking questions at all on here? It appears you are shady if you would set something you would like to see, just to report it...duddde
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May 16, 2023, 02:30:35 PM |
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Perhaps you have a modified kangaroo? what settings did you use to achieve this speed? Yes, I modified the Kangaroo code. Then what's the point of talking about the speed of the modified program? I can also set a multiplier of 2 or 3 in the speed test section to get the speed that I would like to see...duddde What's the point of talking or asking questions at all on here? It appears you are shady if you would set something you would like to see, just to report it...duddde Shady's here is your proposal to mine for you a puzzle in pool with your "modified" super program with 4x speed)))
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May 16, 2023, 05:09:04 PM |
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All programs from JLP are perfectly optimized and if it were possible to improve the result, then the author would definitely do it.
To "double the speed" there is only one solution. This is to use not only the addition of the kangaroo jump, but also the subtraction. This will not require many resources, but will double the number of tested points and thus the number of distinguished points. But it will also slow down the progress of all kangaroos. Can this help, maybe, or maybe it will just overload the hash table with extra distinguished points. With this modification also need to turn off the check for dead kangaroos, because a kangaroo hitting the same position that was left after the subtraction does not mean that the kangaroo is following the trail of another kangaroo. But as i said above, the author would have done it if it had worked.
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May 16, 2023, 05:17:38 PM |
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All programs from JLP are perfectly optimized and if it were possible to improve the result, then the author would definitely do it.
That is not true, the programs that he did, can be improved a lot.
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May 16, 2023, 05:28:30 PM |
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All programs from JLP are perfectly optimized and if it were possible to improve the result, then the author would definitely do it.
To "double the speed" there is only one solution. This is to use not only the addition of the kangaroo jump, but also the subtraction. This will not require many resources, but will double the number of tested points and thus the number of distinguished points. But it will also slow down the progress of all kangaroos. Can this help, maybe, or maybe it will just overload the hash table with extra distinguished points. With this modification also need to turn off the check for dead kangaroos, because a kangaroo hitting the same position that was left after the subtraction does not mean that the kangaroo is following the trail of another kangaroo. But as i said above, the author would have done it if it had worked.
Im agree with you! I just wanna know how much speed kangaroo have with 4090 in Stock WO powerlimit..May be I doing something wrong but my speed on 4090 nearly Tesla V100 32Gb 1420 MKey/sec speeds
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May 16, 2023, 05:36:50 PM |
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That is not true, the programs that he did, can be improved a lot.
Some optimizations that give a few percent or even 10-20 maybe someone can improve. But an optimization that gives an increase of 2 times is unlikely.
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May 16, 2023, 05:41:01 PM |
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All programs from JLP are perfectly optimized and if it were possible to improve the result, then the author would definitely do it.
To "double the speed" there is only one solution. This is to use not only the addition of the kangaroo jump, but also the subtraction. This will not require many resources, but will double the number of tested points and thus the number of distinguished points. But it will also slow down the progress of all kangaroos. Can this help, maybe, or maybe it will just overload the hash table with extra distinguished points. With this modification also need to turn off the check for dead kangaroos, because a kangaroo hitting the same position that was left after the subtraction does not mean that the kangaroo is following the trail of another kangaroo. But as i said above, the author would have done it if it had worked.
Etar, you are a smart programmer. It’s really not that much to mod. I made some simple mods and increased speeds by at least 3x on most cards. But hey, y’all can say what you want to. Water off my back. Maybe I’ll make a video to compare how many DPs JLP’s stock Kangaroo can get in x amount of minutes and then compare that to mine. But even then, there would be doubters. But we can do a test; a timed test. Someone can give me a range, say a 44 bit range and I will run it with my mod at DP 29, and post results. 44 bit range with DP 29 should yield 2^15 DPs in 38 minutes using 1 RTX 4090.
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May 16, 2023, 05:41:35 PM |
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That is not true, the programs that he did, can be improved a lot.
Some optimizations that give a few percent or even 10-20 maybe someone can improve. But an optimization that gives an increase of 2 times is unlikely. I will bet you whatever you have to lose 😎
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May 16, 2023, 05:42:28 PM Last edit: May 16, 2023, 06:35:02 PM by albert0bsd |
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That is not true, the programs that he did, can be improved a lot.
Some optimizations that give a few percent or even 10-20 maybe someone can improve. But an optimization that gives an increase of 2 times is unlikely. For example my BSGS version is almost times 3 times 9 times faster that the Original BSGS from JLP, that is almost 300% 900% just saying...
edit click for proof 🖼️With the same RAM JLP did that range in 3 hours, i did it in 20 minutes that is 900% faster...
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May 16, 2023, 05:50:46 PM |
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Etar, you are a smart programmer. It’s really not that much to mod. I made some simple mods and increased speeds by at least 3x on most cards.
But hey, y’all can say what you want to. Water off my back.
Maybe I’ll make a video to compare how many DPs JLP’s stock Kangaroo can get in x amount of minutes and then compare that to mine. But even then, there would be doubters.
But we can do a test; a timed test. Someone can give me a range, say a 44 bit range and I will run it with my mod at DP 29, and post results. 44 bit range with DP 29 should yield 2^15 DPs in 38 minutes using 1 RTX 4090.
Substaction jmp distance from kangaroo position will give a doubling in the speed of finding DP. But will these additional points give a result? If you found another solution, then well done. I only found this way.
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Etar, you are a smart programmer. It’s really not that much to mod. I made some simple mods and increased speeds by at least 3x on most cards.
But hey, y’all can say what you want to. Water off my back.
Maybe I’ll make a video to compare how many DPs JLP’s stock Kangaroo can get in x amount of minutes and then compare that to mine. But even then, there would be doubters.
But we can do a test; a timed test. Someone can give me a range, say a 44 bit range and I will run it with my mod at DP 29, and post results. 44 bit range with DP 29 should yield 2^15 DPs in 38 minutes using 1 RTX 4090.
Substaction jmp distance from kangaroo position will give a doubling in the speed of finding DP. But will these additional points give a result? If you found another solution, then well done. I only found this way. I believe @ _Counselor implemented this method; he would know if it gave any significant speed up. But if I remember, I believe he said it did not.
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May 17, 2023, 02:23:21 AM |
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All programs from JLP are perfectly optimized and if it were possible to improve the result, then the author would definitely do it.
To "double the speed" there is only one solution. This is to use not only the addition of the kangaroo jump, but also the subtraction. This will not require many resources, but will double the number of tested points and thus the number of distinguished points. But it will also slow down the progress of all kangaroos. Can this help, maybe, or maybe it will just overload the hash table with extra distinguished points. With this modification also need to turn off the check for dead kangaroos, because a kangaroo hitting the same position that was left after the subtraction does not mean that the kangaroo is following the trail of another kangaroo. But as i said above, the author would have done it if it had worked.
Im agree with you! I just wanna know how much speed kangaroo have with 4090 in Stock WO powerlimit..May be I doing something wrong but my speed on 4090 nearly Tesla V100 32Gb 1420 MKey/sec speeds ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.discordapp.net%2Fattachments%2F1101225410596966441%2F1108217767322193960%2Fimage.png&t=665&c=9sk5-zM_bof3Cw) Out the box, non modded Kangaroo with 128x128 grid size. Should be in the 2200-2300 range.
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May 17, 2023, 09:37:31 AM |
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All programs from JLP are perfectly optimized and if it were possible to improve the result, then the author would definitely do it.
To "double the speed" there is only one solution. This is to use not only the addition of the kangaroo jump, but also the subtraction. This will not require many resources, but will double the number of tested points and thus the number of distinguished points. But it will also slow down the progress of all kangaroos. Can this help, maybe, or maybe it will just overload the hash table with extra distinguished points. With this modification also need to turn off the check for dead kangaroos, because a kangaroo hitting the same position that was left after the subtraction does not mean that the kangaroo is following the trail of another kangaroo. But as i said above, the author would have done it if it had worked.
Im agree with you! I just wanna know how much speed kangaroo have with 4090 in Stock WO powerlimit..May be I doing something wrong but my speed on 4090 nearly Tesla V100 32Gb 1420 MKey/sec speeds https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1101225410596966441/1108217767322193960/image.pngOut the box, non modded Kangaroo with 128x128 grid size. Should be in the 2200-2300 range. how much size have work file saved by 4090?
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How to get all addresses + privateKey starting with 16jY7qLJn from #64? More interesting all those on this same range of 64 starting with 16jY7qLJnx?
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How to get all addresses + privateKey starting with 16jY7qLJn from #64? More interesting all those on this same range of 64 starting with 16jY7qLJnx?
You would have to run the entire range, in the range you are wanting to search.
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May 17, 2023, 01:41:56 PM Last edit: May 17, 2023, 02:14:06 PM by Lolo54 |
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How to get all addresses + privateKey starting with 16jY7qLJn from #64? More interesting all those on this same range of 64 starting with 16jY7qLJnx?
You would have to run the entire range, in the range you are wanting to search. No, I do not think so because it covers the whole range #64 with this prefix 16jY7qLJnx So 18 obtained on a purely theoretical and probabilistic distribution of 21 on this range with this prefix 16jY7qLJnxEDF9CD60356DCC19 17147962869286816793 16jY7qLJnx2ixrxCnTLSraerkgyB3YYAiT AF6F7A0015695AA4 12641456819830086308 16jY7qLJnx4enVJC2Ao3wRv3tRusseu5Yb EBE2EB35503B43E4 16997406557861528548 16jY7qLJnx4f4yqNvmp7LtnaatiUuwgUwW CF32BE01449CE45D 14930204627341993053 16jY7qLJnxABQQMzyUZ8qsJ3sHaPDZVxJ7 C9DDAD024A7C3688 14545972596827764360 16jY7qLJnxBo3HMqG3wP2MRh9CQXcgSVcf EEB9AB334DF2770D 17201968488557737741 16jY7qLJnxHBp3dqwV2kzYq1LucfZzgxsH CE1EB402A0085C60 14852506544482311264 16jY7qLJnxHHepGawzcc4xcNVZZdpFD8xu C33AE60173B94230 14067809279956042288 16jY7qLJnxN3ec4QBdgpT8pYg77c8Wt6A9 D461BAACE35DB135 15303718260493365557 16jY7qLJnxPwmtRgVS3HBg2RtAoHe1koZF F7051F27B09112D4 17799667357578236628 16jY7qLJnxb7CHZyqBP8qca9d51gAjyXQNB0D6BBB249F4D96F 12742578570110753135 16jY7qLJnxcZQ1ff7Y6ascX2FwkVfMEqcn C42B8F0185753E8C 14135549092129226380 16jY7qLJnxgQD6f6rp4js9MiqCMkB3gAY5 E5CC7336D5283C4A 16558736609276083274 16jY7qLJnxhMwuUoPD7J3GTmDqLH7MaU6h 9357254130F9270A 10616995608473970442 16jY7qLJnxht5HL2NBywuoC8jK34rz8NJv C8841802AA8BE839 14448699904241690681 16jY7qLJnxiepip11xyDZitPPsHssCRKT2 C4230300DFE089AF 14133143357909666223 16jY7qLJnxoBx9Zhsa1tN62rfZXX1bgKNp AF3F2501F141A44C 12627852570442966092 16jY7qLJnxpsj9dmx9WAuRgxkk9pPvuFXw 8EC5EDB376AEB55A 10287890278843856218 16jY7qLJnxtt8FSYMze4DRVMWQF47auU8M
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May 17, 2023, 02:31:38 PM |
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How to get all addresses + privateKey starting with 16jY7qLJn from #64? More interesting all those on this same range of 64 starting with 16jY7qLJnx?
You would have to run the entire range, in the range you are wanting to search. No, I do not think so because it covers the whole range #64 with this prefix 16jY7qLJnx So 18 obtained on a purely theoretical and probabilistic distribution of 21 on this range with this prefix 16jY7qLJnxEDF9CD60356DCC19 17147962869286816793 16jY7qLJnx2ixrxCnTLSraerkgyB3YYAiT AF6F7A0015695AA4 12641456819830086308 16jY7qLJnx4enVJC2Ao3wRv3tRusseu5Yb EBE2EB35503B43E4 16997406557861528548 16jY7qLJnx4f4yqNvmp7LtnaatiUuwgUwW CF32BE01449CE45D 14930204627341993053 16jY7qLJnxABQQMzyUZ8qsJ3sHaPDZVxJ7 C9DDAD024A7C3688 14545972596827764360 16jY7qLJnxBo3HMqG3wP2MRh9CQXcgSVcf EEB9AB334DF2770D 17201968488557737741 16jY7qLJnxHBp3dqwV2kzYq1LucfZzgxsH CE1EB402A0085C60 14852506544482311264 16jY7qLJnxHHepGawzcc4xcNVZZdpFD8xu C33AE60173B94230 14067809279956042288 16jY7qLJnxN3ec4QBdgpT8pYg77c8Wt6A9 D461BAACE35DB135 15303718260493365557 16jY7qLJnxPwmtRgVS3HBg2RtAoHe1koZF F7051F27B09112D4 17799667357578236628 16jY7qLJnxb7CHZyqBP8qca9d51gAjyXQNB0D6BBB249F4D96F 12742578570110753135 16jY7qLJnxcZQ1ff7Y6ascX2FwkVfMEqcn C42B8F0185753E8C 14135549092129226380 16jY7qLJnxgQD6f6rp4js9MiqCMkB3gAY5 E5CC7336D5283C4A 16558736609276083274 16jY7qLJnxhMwuUoPD7J3GTmDqLH7MaU6h 9357254130F9270A 10616995608473970442 16jY7qLJnxht5HL2NBywuoC8jK34rz8NJv C8841802AA8BE839 14448699904241690681 16jY7qLJnxiepip11xyDZitPPsHssCRKT2 C4230300DFE089AF 14133143357909666223 16jY7qLJnxoBx9Zhsa1tN62rfZXX1bgKNp AF3F2501F141A44C 12627852570442966092 16jY7qLJnxpsj9dmx9WAuRgxkk9pPvuFXw 8EC5EDB376AEB55A 10287890278843856218 16jY7qLJnxtt8FSYMze4DRVMWQF47auU8M Yeah, not sure what you really mean then. How can you be certain a 16jY7qLJnx prefix isn't in a range without checking every key? You said all addresses starting with 16jY7qLJnx, so maybe I am misunderstanding your question. Are you wanting 100% certainty or more like 30% lol.
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it remains only theoretical and probabilistic the distribution is obviously not linear if not on range #64 by adding an additional character to 16jY7qLJnx ex H ==> 16jY7qLJnxH it should come out <1 but in this case there are 2 whereas for 16jY7qLJnx N or P only one address but it stands
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May 17, 2023, 04:05:13 PM |
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it remains only theoretical and probabilistic the distribution is obviously not linear if not on range #64 by adding an additional character to 16jY7qLJnx ex H ==> 16jY7qLJnxH it should come out <1 but in this case there are 2 whereas for 16jY7qLJnx N or P only one address but it stands
I still do not understand what you are asking/implying. In the 64-bit range, there should be an estimated 2,483 addresses that start with 16jY7qLJnx. You are looking at a very small sample size in the list of addresses you posted.
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