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1  Economy / Securities / Re: [HAVELOCK] DIRECT FUND Mining Contract Offer Starts Monday August 10th! on: August 05, 2015, 10:50:23 PM
So because of all the bad investments of other mining funds in the past, I must ask. So this fund has nothing to do with Feidcat or any Chinese person or organization? Also no ASIC Miner?

Let's face reality here. All of the previous mining funds on Havelock all have one thing in common. They all failed. They failed and many of us lost a lot of money in BTC. I personally have not fully recovered from my losses; and at the current rate of any fund (including BDD) on Havelock it may take years, or may not ever recover all of my losses.

Does anyone remember the old song: "Once bitten twice shy"? Well that is me now. I started investing heavily, and at first the mining funds were producing....but that was the smoke screen. I was working just enough to make people invest more and then BAM...it all went to hell; we all lost money and no one ever paid any penalties or suffered any consequences for their actions.

So why should I trust another mining fund?

Where is Airwolf? What does he think and have to say. And like someone asked.....Havelock why don't you clean up old messes before starting new ones?
2  Economy / Securities / Re: [Havelock] Bitcoin Difficulty Derivative (BDD) on: July 25, 2015, 09:14:12 PM
Round 2, Period 3, Day 12 Report - July 24, 2015

Balance Post Divs: BTC 217.87115452

Total Units: 1545

NAV/U: BTC 0.14101692

Are you still having issues with your spreadsheet for today's dividend (Sat 7/25/15)? Because it's 5:13 pm and no dividend yet.
3  Economy / Securities / Re: AMHash1: Cost-Effective Mining Contract on: March 23, 2015, 08:49:04 PM
Well speculations aside, what I am seeing now is just disappearing little by little into non-existance. Lying, suspending dividends, stopping withdrawals, delisting shares, companies out of business, people that should be jailed missing, all others just leaving the building.  Now they seem to be closing their website after moving the shares...  Sad Such a shame, but i guess they don't care...

No they don't! I think we should only give them 48 hours then proceed with the legal method.
4  Economy / Securities / Re: AMHash1: Cost-Effective Mining Contract on: March 22, 2015, 09:31:16 PM
Msg for Jutarul/AM/RM:

Tic, Toc, Tic, Toc, Tic, Toc.....

And you guys said he has not posted in a while...spoke to soon didn't you.
5  Economy / Securities / Re: AMHash1: Cost-Effective Mining Contract on: March 16, 2015, 08:40:14 PM
Just got this email:

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Delisting Of the AMHASH FUND

On Tuesday March 17th, 2015 the AMHASH Fund will be delisted and transferred to Private from Public. The AMHASH team will still maintain a copy of all unit holders. In the event that new information is available in regards to any of the mining equipment or bitcoins owed to AMHASH the unitholders will be notified.

The AMHASH Management Team

It is just Havelock's way of saying you are all screwed and we are not taking any responsibility. So AirWolf was right all along.
6  Economy / Securities / Re: AMHash1: Cost-Effective Mining Contract on: March 13, 2015, 06:32:40 PM
So, no new info, just badly translated Chinese of what we already know.

I'm kind of getting use to it,

what happened to the board member who flew out and was on the site, what was the name, who was it? any info from them?



So it sounds like we are still no closer to getting any real info. We just have to be patient and hope they find the cat and hope he is not completely fried. Well this just sucks. And Havelock will not open any trading of AMHash until they hear from them or receive some kind of dividend payment for us shareholders. I think they (HL) should at least let us sell our shares for the market value that is listed now without the value decreasing as we dump our shares. And then they can take it up with AMHash later.

But I guess that is just wishful thinking which gets us no where fast.
7  Economy / Securities / Re: AMHash1: Cost-Effective Mining Contract on: March 09, 2015, 09:15:50 PM
Someone reported that he knew where FC is and that he is alright.

Why would that guy kidnap him, do they have some issues?

And would that guy not fear the Chinese government,
which is pretty harsh against criminals.
Kidnapping is not a light crime.


I think you should remove that donation address from your messages.
I looks greedy and inappropriate.

I think you should remove that donation address from your messages.
I looks greedy and inappropriate.

Oh yes I agree I am getting annoyed by seeing so many donation requests. I mean come on we are all out enough with AMHash now people are wanting donations.
8  Economy / Securities / Re: AMHash1: Cost-Effective Mining Contract on: March 08, 2015, 11:42:56 PM
Must give props when due--Havelock has started taking his parental nanny state custodial responsibilities seriously & prudently chose to protect cl00less n00bs from buying your bag you from panic selling your assets.  
Who here remembers NEOBEEQ?  
I believe it's time to resume trading, perhaps with an explicit warning stating the asset is worthless, and, of course, the Q suffix because extra lel.
Who is with me, Gentlemen?
Let's all vote!

Problem is with that idea is that there are MANY funds listed on Havelock that are worthless. By worthless I mean that have either a) not paid a dividend at all, or b) have not paid a dividend in months. There are currently only two funds that pay regular at least once a month...(monthly funds). None that pay once a week anymore. BDD that still pays daily...but it has an endgame coming soon. Then there WAS AMHash....the only fund since after Peta fell through that was paying "REGULAR" and daily...at least until Feb10th.

So like I said there are a lot of worthless funds on Havelock.
9  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Amhash crisis management and co-ordination on: March 08, 2015, 11:31:34 PM
Hi all,

A group of people who invested in Amhash have decided to pool their efforts in order to co-ordinate their actions to investigate what really happened with our investments. We want to gain more information on the circumstances and people involved in it, their motivation and most of all to  protect the interests of the investors. This may include legal assistance and co-operation with relevant Chinese authorities if necessary.  For this purpose all further actions will be co-ordinated by our team. At this stage I am the person who agreed to come forward however I am being assisted by a number of other members of this forum who preferred to stay anonymous for now.

We act for a number of Amhash investors who are supporting this initiative. Our main purpose is assistance, assessment and co-ordination of our actions. Our work is free however if there will be any funds needed to finance legal assistance we will submit the options for a discussion.

We welcome others who wish to join our group, please PM me if you wish to contribute and share information.

We will be posting updates and requests on this thread on regular basis to keep you informed.

At this stage for the next week we will focus on the two main aspects of the situation:

- obtaining cost effective legal assistance for our actions in China
- gathering further information and details of what actually happened

We invite all interested parties to contact us directly in strict confidence via bitmessage. We believe that this initiative will greatly progress the things, prevent further losses of all the parties concerned and control damage to the privacy of the people exposed in this situation.

Bitmessage:
BM-2cX8MZECyMgKCqt3e64siL4taziYXqK6x9

bitmessage
https://bitmessage.org/wiki/Main_Page

Well I don't have any news or info, and I certainly do not have any extra bitcoin or money (because most of my investment is currently tied up in AMHash); however I think I would rather join your cause as opposed to AirWolf's cause. I like the idea of taking action, but I prefer to do it with rationale rather than blind emotions. So count me in.
10  Economy / Securities / Re: AMHash1: Cost-Effective Mining Contract on: March 07, 2015, 05:36:55 PM
WE need to translate this ASAP:

https://www.bikeji.com/t/1228

Yes we need it translated or we still are in the dark. I will check back in a few hours and see if any progress has been made.
11  Economy / Securities / Re: AMHash1: Cost-Effective Mining Contract on: March 07, 2015, 03:42:05 PM
I don't know them.I've just known that from the internet. But most chinese can't speak english and they can't even reach this forum because of the "Great FireWall".
BLN, you are being extremely helpful, thank you!

Maybe there is a very slim chance....a very small light at the end of the tunnel. If it's not an oncoming train that is. But it does sound like a little progress.
12  Economy / Securities / Re: AMHash1: Cost-Effective Mining Contract on: March 06, 2015, 10:32:57 PM
Does not matter anymore what exactly happened. The money is gone. Again.
That's enough with the scams. I never again invest in bitcoins.

And we are no closer to finding any REAL info than yesterday.

Does anybody have any REAL factual info on here? I'm getting tired of seeing you guys in a pissing contest and ragging on each other. We need to find out some solid factual info about FC, AmHash...and any other parties. It has been all week and we are no closer than where we were last Saturday or Sunday. Are there even any REAL people in China hunting these guys down, or is all of this just a bunch of blah, blah, blah?
13  Economy / Securities / Re: AMHash1: Cost-Effective Mining Contract on: March 06, 2015, 06:31:50 PM
Does not matter anymore what exactly happened. The money is gone. Again.
That's enough with the scams. I never again invest in bitcoins.

And we are no closer to finding any REAL info than yesterday.
14  Economy / Securities / Re: AMHash1: Cost-Effective Mining Contract on: March 05, 2015, 10:45:43 PM
First lost in Hashie and now in Amhash. If I ever invest cloud mining again, will certainly choose USA based firms with customer support and known address maybe Zenminers was a scam but I earned 4 times more from my investment.

Yes because USA mining companies like hashfast, cointerra or butterfly labs are any better...... to be honest i prefer the current situation with a crazy story line than the BFL 2 week saga

And here is a novel idea that I don't know why USA companies are NOT doing. Whatever happened to the idea of making hundreds of solar panels and using wind (windmill) power things to generate the necessary electricity demands to run a successful mining farm and NOT have to pay an electric company millions of dollars just to mine bitcoin. If they generated their own electricity then they could make money mining even though the difficulty continues to rise. Duh!!!!
Because setting up a facility to run 10MW of mining gear is relatively difficult and pricey, but not outside the realm of a well funded venture. Building a PV facility that can handle the 240MWh of energy you'd require every day to run 10MW of gear would be a multi-year project with massive capital outlays. If you've got a couple hundred million bucks laying around though, you might want to look into it. Tongue

But for a multi-million dollar company and some good mega-million investors/backers....it could be done. I don't have it for sure; but there are plenty of big mega companies that do have that kind of capitol here in the United States.
15  Economy / Securities / Re: AMHash1: Cost-Effective Mining Contract on: March 05, 2015, 10:29:57 PM
First lost in Hashie and now in Amhash. If I ever invest cloud mining again, will certainly choose USA based firms with customer support and known address maybe Zenminers was a scam but I earned 4 times more from my investment.

Yes because USA mining companies like hashfast, cointerra or butterfly labs are any better...... to be honest i prefer the current situation with a crazy story line than the BFL 2 week saga

And here is a novel idea that I don't know why USA companies are NOT doing. Whatever happened to the idea of making hundreds of solar panels and using wind (windmill) power things to generate the necessary electricity demands to run a successful mining farm and NOT have to pay an electric company millions of dollars just to mine bitcoin. If they generated their own electricity then they could make money mining even though the difficulty continues to rise. Duh!!!!
16  Economy / Securities / Re: AMHash1: Cost-Effective Mining Contract on: March 05, 2015, 10:23:00 PM
...rockminer started a company to produce and sell miners and failed, backing a company financially does not always mean it is a win.


How is it that so many Bitcoin companies fail so hard?  Could Bitcoiners really be that much dumber/more incompetent/less educated/sucky at life than normal folks?
I mean, just solid, wall-to-wall fail!
Who woulda thunked making money-printing machines was so haard?!
Owell, could be just bad luck I suppose Undecided

I agree with you NotLambChop. I also do not understand why it is so hard to see much ROI and to see companies succeed in something that should (in my opinion) be so simple. I mean where are all the IT (computer geek) genius's at....they should be able to figure this whole bitcoin thing out much better than what we have seen lately. It was Edison's Idea to create a currency that would be independent of any Government and could operate on a large scale. But I bet Edison is turning over in his grave to see all of this mess and scams and confusion and what not.

It just doesn't make sense to me.....when it should be simple.
17  Economy / Securities / Re: AMHash1: Cost-Effective Mining Contract on: March 05, 2015, 08:32:15 PM
Last Month the AMHASH1 Fund Managers has posted this updated:

BLAH BLAH

During the period when our site was down, we were informed that the AMHASH team were not able to reach anyone at ASICMIner which operates the mining farm for the AMHASH mining operation.  At this time we have suspended trading on the AMHASH Fund until further information is provided to us.

We would like to remind everyone that the AMHASH operation is a joint venture between RockMiner and ASICMiner.

Thank you,

Havelock

THIS HAS BEEN CUT OUT at the same time that everyone else was informed through this very thread  just to show true statement

"at the same time that everyone else was informed through this very thread " so I understand that you have seen this announcement in this thread and the panic rising, becouse at this time every one was speculating about cumulative dividend not about Friedcat whereabouts.

Of course it makes more sense what you say than knowing than you have hidden the fact from the public fearing of your own ventures and possible panic.
The fact you came back and let ppl withdraw money makes you look only little bit better. But it does not mean that you dont carry the stains of miss-honesty with YOUR investors.

Now AM says that Amhash is not them, Havelock says that "we thought you new" you didn't? oh well at least we did not rob your money like Amhash did.

And we are getting no where on the fast train.
18  Economy / Securities / Re: AMHash1: Cost-Effective Mining Contract on: March 05, 2015, 05:36:31 PM
This is much bigger than PBmining or any other ponzi. This is the core of bitcoin industry. I want to see all those asicminer's managers/directors telling to the public they did not know about amhash and they just wash their hands, lol! They will be the first to be suspected of being involved in it Wink

mysterious friedcat.... missing like satoshi nakamoto Cheesy

The only thing I do know for sure is that because of all the bad drama, I have posted several comments. Enough posts and my status will finally go up above "Newbie". Because for the longest time when all was well....I never had a need to post any comments.
19  Economy / Securities / Re: AMHash1: Cost-Effective Mining Contract on: March 05, 2015, 02:07:44 PM
Amhash team please advise what is going on?!

Nothing is going on. HaveLock & AM hash has appeared to be a joint scam as expected. On the other hand the predicted scam has turned out to be paying and has given ROI. www.cloudmining.website is giving ROI within 114 days and this is verified by a 3rd party website which tracks earning from almost all mining companies on earth.

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Source: http://www.cmmonitor.com/24-cloudmining-website.html

I tired cloud mining for about 6 full months, but it was through CEX-IO. The only ROI I got after 6 months was I lost half of my investment. I sold off all of my GH'S and if I had not sold them when I did I would have lost more. The difficulty and low bitcoin price has made all mining un-profitable.
20  Economy / Securities / Re: AMHash1: Cost-Effective Mining Contract on: March 04, 2015, 11:27:30 PM
I'm liking what Havelock did.  It's sorta like the old Havelock, only it takes much longer before you realize that NOTHING IS GONNA HAPPEN hahahahaha1




>Sorry for your loss!<

What loss I ain't lost anything yet. Of course I can't buy AMHash right now either.
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