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We are currently accepting test wallets to build trust in the service as our regular customers are reluctant to testify to protect their privacy.
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Since you are providing this service on behalf of satoshispain.com/, can you ask one of their specialists to log in to give answers or clarifications to the quote below? -Know if the private key is 12,18 or 24 words.
-Why were the words lost, how and when. What condition was the person in when they lost them.
-This only works if you have missed some words (no matter the position). For more than certain words it can take dozens of years.
-It doesn't matter how much money there is (1 satoshi or 1000 bitcoins). This service is carried out to help people get their money back. - It is not a private key but a wallet seed. - How will the answer to this question will help? Are you not supposed to brute-force It? - Some words are a general word. If 6 words are missing, it is impossible to recover them. The number of words must be determined and allocated precisely. - You are not a charitable company, so you must care about the money. If the missing were 3 words, and the seeds were about $10 BTC, then the cost of recovering would be much higher than the value of $10. BTW, I gave you a negative trust due to the high risks related to your service without proof of that. And you think negative trust without proof will do something positive? Why don´t you try our service with a created wallet with minimum ammount and see that we can do it instead of give negative trust without any knowledge? We want to make ourselves known and generate trust, the cost of the service at this moment is not important, what is important is that people know that we are reliable and this service works |
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If you hire us you will have the proof If you don't understand this doesn't prove anything, you're too dumb to run this service. Selective scamming will happen when the amount is high enough. We are a public company with several years in technology sector, we don't need this service to continue with our business and we want to be a bigger company with legal businesses, like this. Our intention is to help and win a comisson from the clients wich have lost his wallets. |
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Is your Service limited to Bitcoin alone or you entertain other altcoins as well ?
At this moment we can offer this service for wallets with Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash, Dogecoin, Ethereum, Ethereum classic and Litecoin. |
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This is very interesting. OP seems to forget where he or she is. Coming up with this service offer must be prepared to face scrutiny but as it stands now from all I have read here I have not really seen anything convincing for me to flow with OP. Merely looking at OP account, it is not encouraging. OP has no one to vouch for their services. Not a link to past jobs done to clear doubts on their professional engagements and this makes me more curious about the organisation.
I read where OP said he is just an employee there if he being an employee of the company that makes him part of the team and from the looks he or she should be their representative here helping to market their services.
Well, i'm a member of the company and i have the company to vouch for our services. I'm not a blockchain/bitcoin expert. My job is to offer the service and resolve initial doubts, the rest will be done over time when you see that it is no joke. This profile was created only with this purpose. You can not be a judge in your own case neither can you bake your cake and have it at the same time OP. Maybe and external customers can vouch for your services if truly you have done jobs of this nature or possibly other job engagements you have done before maybe since this is a new job description from your organisation, others services your company have rendered could speak for itself. So why not those customers say something about them. I think you should not get things too complicated , just agree to the fact that you are their marketing manager because I see that is what you are doing here which have been said already by a member. I have made it clear that I am here to offer this service and resolve reasonable questions. If you are not convinced by the service or want to wait for testimonials, just wait or hire us with a test wallet. I am not going to get into discussions that lead nowhere, everyone has their opinion and it is respectable, we speak with facts. Hire us and see for yourself How do I hire you when you have no proven fact at hand to back up your claims. You can not claim to be doing this when you have no track records to present as evidence of previous works done. Do you think members here would be comfortable to do such business with you? Wait or hire us, there is no more options at this moment. If you hire us you will have the proof |
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This is very interesting. OP seems to forget where he or she is. Coming up with this service offer must be prepared to face scrutiny but as it stands now from all I have read here I have not really seen anything convincing for me to flow with OP. Merely looking at OP account, it is not encouraging. OP has no one to vouch for their services. Not a link to past jobs done to clear doubts on their professional engagements and this makes me more curious about the organisation.
I read where OP said he is just an employee there if he being an employee of the company that makes him part of the team and from the looks he or she should be their representative here helping to market their services.
Well, i'm a member of the company and i have the company to vouch for our services. I'm not a blockchain/bitcoin expert. My job is to offer the service and resolve initial doubts, the rest will be done over time when you see that it is no joke. This profile was created only with this purpose. You can not be a judge in your own case neither can you bake your cake and have it at the same time OP. Maybe and external customers can vouch for your services if truly you have done jobs of this nature or possibly other job engagements you have done before maybe since this is a new job description from your organisation, others services your company have rendered could speak for itself. So why not those customers say something about them. I think you should not get things too complicated , just agree to the fact that you are their marketing manager because I see that is what you are doing here which have been said already by a member. I have made it clear that I am here to offer this service and resolve reasonable questions. If you are not convinced by the service or want to wait for testimonials, just wait or hire us with a test wallet. I am not going to get into discussions that lead nowhere, everyone has their opinion and it is respectable, we speak with facts. Hire us and see for yourself |
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This is a new service, is not yet exposed in our web. If you want testimonials you can hire us and see the results or wait for someone else to do it. Please look the actualization in the first post.
You admit that this is a new service so how sure are you that you can recover the partially lost seeds, have you done testing on your recovery method if you established a proven method then you can lead us to a step-by-step method on how you can recover the partial loss seeds, It's better that you give us details and proof of results, for a new service they should establish their method, especially on a service like this. Launching a service without knowing that it works makes no sense. We are a company and this is part of our business, we are not going to provide information about what our method is, only what is necessary to offer it. |
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This is very interesting. OP seems to forget where he or she is. Coming up with this service offer must be prepared to face scrutiny but as it stands now from all I have read here I have not really seen anything convincing for me to flow with OP. Merely looking at OP account, it is not encouraging. OP has no one to vouch for their services. Not a link to past jobs done to clear doubts on their professional engagements and this makes me more curious about the organisation.
I read where OP said he is just an employee there if he being an employee of the company that makes him part of the team and from the looks he or she should be their representative here helping to market their services.
Well, i'm a member of the company and i have the company to vouch for our services. I'm not a blockchain/bitcoin expert. My job is to offer the service and resolve initial doubts, the rest will be done over time when you see that it is no joke. This profile was created only with this purpose. |
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If you want testimonials you can hire us and see the results or wait for someone else to do it. Please look the actualization in the first post
I do not have any wallet that wants to recover but so far I have not yet encountered any platform that can recover the wallet's passphrase in whole or partially there are some who claim to recover but they do not guarantee recovery and they ask for upfront payment its good you did not post this in your actualization because people will consider it as a scam if you ask for upfront payment. Once the words are recovered, we will charge a 21% commission and the rest will be transferred to the wallet that the client provided us when bringing the documentation. How are you going to guarantee a return, if I have 0.5 Bitcoin you recover it there's a possibility of keeping it and waiting in the future to cash it out when there is no way to trace the people running the platform. Thank you for your contribution, we do not require any advance payment. As far as we know we are the first to give this service. It is for this reason that we only accept documentation in person and on paper, we are not responsible for the funds, if we were, someone with bad intentions could falsely denounce us. The wallet is lost beforehand, if we cannot recover it the funds will not move |
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Based on wayback machine this is very much different from what you have now https://web.archive.org/web/20230114022052/https://www.satoshispain.com/Are you not the real owner of the site based on Whois information you updated it just last month so the service you're offering is only a month old can you confirm this. https://www.whois.com/whois/satoshispain.comDomain:satoshispain.com Registrar:10dencehispahard, S.L. Registered On:2019-10-21 Expires On:2023-10-21 Updated On:2023-09-13 For your service to be credible you need to back it up with concrete results we don't trust sending even files or part of a seed phrase to a new company without reputation and testimonials to back up the claims. This is a new service, is not yet exposed in our web. If you want testimonials you can hire us and see the results or wait for someone else to do it. Please look the actualization in the first post |
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Es la misma empresa, aún no se ha lanzado el servicio en la web, para cualquier duda podéis consultarme o poneros en contacto con la empresa diciendo que venís de bitcointalk y aseguraros de que realmente es así. Entendemos perfectamente la desconfianza con este tipo de servicios, esto es algo nuevo y que sepamos nadie más lo hace.
Que no lo haga nadie más esta difícil, tomarse ese "eslogan" para marketing esta bien, pero es algo que no es verdad, hay cientos queriendo conseguir las 12+1 , las 24, en lo que se denomine una semilla, que se agrega a los password, claves, etc. La diferencia es que las "claves" en relación con las semillas, resulta en que, por lo general no se sabe muy bien a donde pueden llevar al perpetrar con el uso de "la tecnología", es decir, que tipo de información se consigue o cual es el objetivo en si mismo, datos personales, el valor o secuestro de la información, a diferencia de las semillas que por razones obvias, es ¡dinero!, en este caso criptos - activos. En la idea de lo expresado:
"Recuperamos cuentas de email, Aol, gmail, Yahoo, etc, solo debes decirnos:
- Su última clave usada
- Su fecha de nacimiento
- En que año apertura la cuenta
- Etc.
En general cualquier información que proporciones, nos ayudara a recuperarle su cuenta"
"Recuperamos cuentas de Redes sociales, Youtube, X, Telegram, Instagram, solo debes decirnos: ... En general cualquier información que proporciones, nos ayudara a recuperarle su cuenta" y,"Recuperamos cuentas de e-wallet, Paypal, Skrill, Advcash, solo debes decirnos: ... En general cualquier información que proporciones, nos ayudara a recuperarle su cuenta" En cierta forma los "o", "y" es lo mismo pero para un asunto tan serio contextualiza la (mi) idea sin dudas. Cualquier persona que pase por una situación de perdidas/extravió/descuido o la causa que sea, de las semillas parcial o total, debe tener las consideraciones de seguridad a priori, obviamente la "premisa" ceder un "%" de esos activos a los "profesionales" es mejor que tener 0% de retorno de esos activos. PERO, recuerde que el Trust, y la fortaleza de la negociación le garantizan no perderlos dos veces.
Se entiende la variación de claves y semillas, pero se trata de contextualizar, que para fines de "estafa" la oferta crece para el común de los mortales que a larga le da igual conocer la capacidad de cifrado que ofrecen los criptoactivos. La vieja comparación de no confundir peras con manzanas, aunque sean frutas.Actualizaré el post inicial en las próximas 24 horas con las condiciones para poder ayudar a cualquier posible cliente a la recuperación de su cuenta. Entendemos la desconfianza sobre este servicio, a nosotros no nos consta que nadie más lo haga. Te puedo adelantar que se hará un contrato privado entre las partes que garantice que se cumple lo que ofrecemos. |
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I am an employee of the company in charge of attracting potential clients for this service, for that reason the account in this forum is new. As I said, we perfectly understand the lack of trust and we do not want anyone to send us their partial private key if they do not have full guarantees of the service. You can contact Satoshispain directly, which is a company incorporated in Spain and that provided services related to mining and sale of rigs in the past. We currently rent GPU servers and have just launched this new service for recovering accounts that have lost some of the private key words.
If you are an employee and you are shilling your organisation here then it definitely means your are their chief marketing officer because what you just did here is more of advertising or promoting the presence of your company here which is not bad but with the sensitive nature of the service with respect to restoring of lost wallet through part private keys, I think it is very much a sophisticated company If they could be rendering such services. OP do well to quote reply rather than replying one for one filling up your thread all yourself otherwise you will likely be tagged a spammer spamming your own thread. Lastly, you made mention of your organisation that we should contact them directly but you did not drop any details about your company. No email, no customer care, no website no contact address for verification and validation. How do we then further contact no or reach out to them. Your OP is incomplete then as I will advise you to edit and put in the necessary information if you are serious about it. This is our website, in the next 24 hours I will post an actualization of the conditions in the first post https://www.satoshispain.com/ |
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I am an employee of the company in charge of attracting potential clients for this service, for that reason the account in this forum is new. As I said, we perfectly understand the lack of trust and we do not want anyone to send us their partial private key if they do not have full guarantees of the service. You can contact Satoshispain directly, which is a company incorporated in Spain and that provided services related to mining and sale of rigs in the past. We currently rent GPU servers and have just launched this new service for recovering accounts that have lost some of the private key words.
According to them website, this service is an IaaS provider, and their services are limited to deep learning and digital games, not cracking passwords. you will be banned if you use their service for this purpose. This is if we assume the truth of what you say, but given the details you provide, you do not know much about the service you provide. I will add a negative trust when I log in from my account THIS IS SCAM. If you think this is a scam try our service |
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I am an employee of the company in charge of attracting potential clients for this service, for that reason the account in this forum is new. As I said, we perfectly understand the lack of trust and we do not want anyone to send us their partial private key if they do not have full guarantees of the service. You can contact Satoshispain directly, which is a company incorporated in Spain and that provided services related to mining and sale of rigs in the past. We currently rent GPU servers and have just launched this new service for recovering accounts that have lost some of the private key words.
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I reported this post to preferably be deleted, or to be moved to the appropriate board. It has been moved to the service board but this look like a scam.
The details he provides will determine whether this service is a scam or should be deleted.
@OP What do you mean by “missing some words from the seed?” You claim to be a specialized company and the word “some” should not be used here because it means 3 to 9. If you miss 9 words, it is impossible for any company to help you access your coins and 1 word missing may make it impossible or possible. Since you are a legal company, can you make a video about your devices because you need higher computing capabilities on average than regular services? In general, there is already this service ----> Bitcoin Wallet Recovery Services - for forgotten wallet password, which seems to have been working for a while and is more reliable than you. The only restriction is that the bitcoins must be declared in the corresponding tax administration. |
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I reported this post to preferably be deleted, or to be moved to the appropriate board. It has been moved to the service board but this look like a scam.
I will advice people to avoid this service.
People should not backup some part of their seed phrase separately in different places. It is not advisable nor recommended. People should better go for passphrase. Backup your passphrase in different location separate from your seed phrase. If you lose access to your seed phrase or passphrase, you lose access to your coins.
We perfectly understand the mistrust with this type of services, it is something new and as far as we know no one else does it. For any questions you can contact Satoshispain saying that you come from Bitcointalk |
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Es la misma empresa, aún no se ha lanzado el servicio en la web, para cualquier duda podéis consultarme o poneros en contacto con la empresa diciendo que venís de bitcointalk y aseguraros de que realmente es así. Entendemos perfectamente la desconfianza con este tipo de servicios, esto es algo nuevo y que sepamos nadie más lo hace.
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Escribo este post en nombre de la empresa Satoshi Spain. Tenemos la posibilidad de recuperar wallets de btc a la que les falten algunas palabras de la semilla. Si dividiste la semilla en partes y has perdido alguna quizá podamos ayudarte. Se hace de forma legal y se emite factura, si los btc recuperados estan exentos de tributación no se tributa pero en cualquier caso tendrán que ser declarados. La empresa se lleva una comisión del 12%,21% o 50% de lo recuperado. También existe la posibilidad de desencriptación del archivo donde esté la semilla si perdiste el acceso al mismo. Hay que estudiar cada caso de forma individual, para más detalles escribidme por privado. Actualización 05/10/2023: Para poder recuperar las palabras seed: -Dar correctamente el orden de las palabras que se tengan. -Este servicio está pensado para ayudar a la gente a recuperar su dinero. No tener la información correcta en el orden de las palabras dificultará nuestro trabajo y hará que suframos retrasos innecesarios -Saber si la frase es de 12,18 ó 24 palabras. -Idioma en el que se hizo la billetera -Por que se perdieron las palabras, como y cuando. En qué estado estaba la persona cuando las perdió. -Esto solo funciona si se han perdido algunas palabras (da igual la posición). Más de ciertas palabras puede llevar decenas de años. -Podemos tardar tanto 1 minuto como años en recuperarlas. Se debe tener paciencia. -Se tiene que traer en persona la documentación para evitar hackeos. -Se rellenará un contrato entre las dos partes para certificar que la persona que trae las palabras seed es la titular real. -Se emitirá factura con IVA por el servicio prestado. Todo se tributa. -Una vez recuperadas las palabras, cobraremos el 12% si la wallet es de 0,5 btc o menos, 21% si es de 1 btc o menos y 50% si es de más de 1 btc, el resto será transferido a la wallet que nos haya proporcionado el cliente al traer la documentación. -No importa cuánto dinero haya ( 1 satoshi o 1000 bitcoins). Este servicio se lleva a cabo para ayudar a la gente a recuperar su dinero. -Todo, absolutamente todo se hace con papel y boli para evitar hackeos. No pedimos ningún pago por adelantado, solo cobramos comisión en caso de que recuperemos la wallet. En este momento podemos ofrecer este servicio para billeteras de Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash, Dogecoin, Ethereum, Ethereum classic y Litecoin. Somos una empresa pública con varios años en el sector tecnológico, no necesitamos este servicio para continuar con nuestro negocio y queremos ser una empresa más grande con negocios legales, como este. Nuestra intención es ayudar a los clientes que han perdido su wallet y ganar una comisión por este servicio. https://www.satoshispain.com/Un saludo |
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I write this post on behalf of the Satoshi Spain company. We have the possibility of recovering BTC wallets that are missing some words from the seed. If you divided the seed into parts and you have lost some, perhaps we can help you. It is done legally and an invoice is issued, if the recovered BTC is exempt from taxation, it is not taxed but in any case they will have to be declared. The company takes a commission of 12%,21% or 50% of what is recovered. There is also the possibility of decrypting the file where the seed is located if you lost access to it. Each case must be studied individually, for more details send me a DM. Actualization 05/10/2023: In order to recover the seed words: -Give correctly the order of the words you have. -This service is designed to help people get their money back. Not having the correct information in the order of the words will make our work difficult and cause us to suffer unnecessary delays -Know if the private key is 12,18 or 24 words. -Language in which the wallet was made. -Why were the words lost, how and when. What condition was the person in when they lost them. -This only works if you have missed some words (no matter the position). For more than certain words it can take dozens of years. -It can take 1 minute or years to recover them. You must be patient. -Documentation must be brought in person to avoid hacking. -A contract will be filled out between the two parties to certify that the person who brings the seed words is the real owner. -An invoice with VAT will be issued for the service provided. Everything is taxed. -Once the words are recovered, we will charge a 12% commission if the wallet have 0,5 btc or less, 21% if have 1 btc or less and 50% for more than 2 btc. The rest will be transferred to the wallet that the client provided us when bringing the documentation. -It doesn't matter how much money there is (1 satoshi or 1000 bitcoins). This service is carried out to help people get their money back. -Everything, absolutely everything is done with pen and paper to avoid hacking. -We do not require any advance payment We do not ask for any advance payment, we only charge a commission in case we recover the wallet. At this moment we can offer this service for wallets with Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash, Dogecoin, Ethereum, Ethereum classic and Litecoin. We are a public company with several years in technology sector, we don't need this service to continue with our business and we want to be a bigger company with legal businesses, like this. Our intention is to help and win a comisson from the clients wich have lost his wallets. We are currently accepting test wallets to build trust in the service as our regular customers are reluctant to testify to protect their privacy. https://www.satoshispain.com/All the best |
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