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1  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: May 29, 2024, 04:37:57 PM
Its difference level competition for comparison between UEFA Europe League final and FA Cup with UEFA Champion League, Real Madrid has huge ambition for winning their 15th of Champion League tittle and want to give last trophy for their players  Toni Kroos after announcing retired. I don't think unbelievable result at Europe League and FA Cup final match will make Real Madrid underrate for defeating Dortmund, looking head to head both team Real Madrid always dominance over Dortmund exactly when their team full of talented players with their attacking line Robert Lewandowski.

Madrid has other benefit in this season always success get winning when facing the Bundesliga teams, since phase round defeating Union Berlin and knock out round eliminated RB Leipzig until Bayern Munich kicked out at semifinal round make Madrid more confidence for winning when facing the Bundesliga team.

But haven't we seen countless of surprises across all competitions in European football now? Let's go:

Atalanta beats Leverkusen 3-0. Did anyone expect that?

Dortmund survives the Champions League group and beats Atletico Madrid and PSG. Did anyone expect that?

Manchester United beats Manchester City in the FA Cup final. Did anyone expect that?

All these results are intensely surprising. I would have never bet on Manchester United or Atalanta given how Leverkusen was in shape. Dortmund, if anyone told me they end up in the final, I would have thought that person is insane.

That's why I hope for an exciting match and not some game that is 0-3 at halftime.

2  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: El Salvador has become the first country to make #Bitcoin legal tender! 🇸🇻 on: May 28, 2024, 11:28:29 PM
El Salvador has mined 474 bitcoins

El Salvador has mined about 474 bitcoins worth $29 million over the past three years using volcano-fueled geothermal energy. It was powered by a small amount of geothermal energy produced by the country's dominant Tekapa volcano, which was identified as a green way to accumulate the well-known cryptocurrency.

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Scrolled through the thread and wanted to see what's going on in El Salvador and there you go, this is very interesting. I imagine they are the only country using geothermal energy from a volcano!

Too bad that there is no information about the cost of this process. It doesn't matter that much as they are running that power plant anyway and dedicate some of the energy to mining, meaning that maintenance is covered anyway.

Adding roughly $30 million in less than three years can turn into a big deal for them and if this mining doesn't mean there are shortages for people in El Salvador, then this is a great example of making use of natural energy to make some extra money. And if they can earn a couple of thousand additional BTC over the years, nobody can tell what this could one day mean for that country. El Salvador is not a huge economy.

It would still be some interesting information to know what amount of hardware they had to use and maintain to get an idea how profitable it was for the time being.
3  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The Rise of Autonomous Car Racing on: May 28, 2024, 10:48:17 PM
Hey punters, have you heard of the Abu Dhabi Autonomous Racing League? Maybe you have or not. If you haven't, Autonomous car racing is a rapidly advancing field that combines cutting-edge technologies such as artificial intelligence (AI), fast mobility stacks, innovative sensor technologies and edge computing to create high-performance vehicles that can perceive their surroundings, make decisions, and race competitively without human intervention. -https://a2rl.io/

When we talk about racing, we talk about the drivers, compare their performances, and all other odds but this is kind of different. It is all about betting on superior tech. Would you bet on an autonomous vehicle? How do you feel about placing your wagers on a race where the competitors are machines rather than humans?

Removing the driver entirely makes it quite an unattractive sport in my opinion. It's more like getting an insight of the companies' technological position and maybe that can influence consumer decisions. But since you brought this up in the gambling discussion section, I wouldn't bet on any of those races. There is just no way to confirm whether everything has been true and fair. There could be so much manipulation.

And if it is perfect artificial intelligence that avoids all car accidents, than the car with the best tech should always win unless the tech fails. It is similar to betting on these simulated sport matches that some websites offer. I have never placed a bet on that as it is all about trusting the provider that no manipulation is going on, but there is no way to verify that either.

When they do these races in Abu Dhabi, are there fans celebrating that? It's kind of funny to think about people cheering for a car that has no driver.

Next stop: robotic dog races! Cheesy Or what about pig races, automated robotic pig races? It's ridiculous to scream or cheering at something that has no soul.

And actually, autonomous means that there is nobody with a remote control driving the car. That could still be fun, but truly autonomous vehicles, I can't see how that would be an enjoyable event besides the idea that it might be interesting to see it once and to understand how well the tech is doing these days.
4  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: May 28, 2024, 07:55:11 PM
The excitement of football is not only based on the number of goals. But I personally am always more excited if both teams play aggressively and score multiple goals in a game rather than just one goal in 90 minutes or more. Instead of seeing a match where both teams only play ball in the middle. it's very boring. The game of soccer is all about strategy so I think that goes without saying. And seeing how a coach uses strategies for a club brings other excitement. but what I said from the start was that it would be more exciting. That doesn't mean it wasn't fun at first. BUT IT WILL BE MORE EXCITING. But I also wouldn't feel that the UCL final wasn't exciting. because even though in the last 4 seasons the results of the final match have always only featured 1 goal, the excitement always exceeds that of other matches. But I expect more excitement in the final this time. Even if there aren't many goals, I hope both teams play aggressively like Inter Milan and Man City showed last season.

I understand what you mean mate, the number of goals matters but to me style of play and composure matters too, for instance in the final match between Leverkusen vs Atalanta, Atalanta won the match and made it more easy for themselves by being more composed in both attack and defence and their style of play outmatch Leverkusen in that game and that's what made it very interesting and not all boring cause Leverkusen at some point realised their error and tried to make p for it but it was too late cause Atalanta became more aggressive with their defense and made scoring difficult for their opponents. I dislike a boring match, not to talk of a boring final game, not just any finals but the Champions league final, well I believe the final game between Madrid and Dortmund would be very interesting and probably with lots of goals about 3 or more and both sides to score. Dortmund might be the underdogs but even though they don't win I believe they'll have a goal in that match.

I disagree that the style was the decisive issue in the final between Atalanta and Leverkusen. In this case it was goals because Leverkusen was again the team that took control. But in contrast to any of the other games during the season, they couldn't score the goal. Leverkusen gave away they chances they would usually not give away.
While Leverkusen was carelessly wasting chances, Atalanta scored some insane goals. That was the decisive issue in that game. In this case the number of goals mattered more than the way the teams played. Atalanta won't score three goals against Leverkusen often. Hardly any team did. I don't even know whether Leverkusen conceded three goals in any game this season?

It could be similar in the game Real Madrid against Dortmund. Real Madrid is a team that can get along very well with low ball possession because they know they don't need a lot of chances to score.
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7  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: May 27, 2024, 08:04:48 PM
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I don't think it's like that, we know that in the final 2 seasons ago where Liverpool faced Madrid we know that at that time Madrid was very doubtful because of Liverpool's very strong strength but in the end Madrid again managed to get the trophy when indeed they were doubted even from the round of 16 against several strong clubs like PSG and Manchester City at that time.

But that game was a lucky game for Real Madrid in every aspect. Liverpool was overwhelmingly stronger in my eyes, but Real Madrid got that one goal and then played it down like they always do. Take time off the clock wherever they can, slow it down. Liverpool had 9 shots on target and Real Madrid had 2 with one being a goal. That's football and when great teams face each other, the little nuances make the difference.
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Likewise last season where Inter were not expected in the final but in fact in 90 minutes of the match they showed an interesting thing that made Manchester City hassle even though the final result was still owned by Manchester City.

Yes and I always with for a sense of realism. It looks like to most here the result is all that counts. In a sense that is correct, but to consider when the opponent was stronger and offered an impressive fight should be part of the discussion if you ask me. As you pointed out Inter Milan coul have won that game, but they didn't.

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In this match it is also the same where in every match there will definitely be favorites who are always a factor more but in the end we must realize that things like this are only a reinforcement not to convince that Madrid will definitely win because to say Madrid wins then they must show the best quality in 90 minutes of the match so that they can really be deserved to be champions and sometimes there can be unexpected things that can be a surprise.

Real Madrid has far more to lose than Dortmund and that is one ace up the Dormund sleeves. They are all aware that the media have already written their articles being ready to published how Real Madrid won the game. I still think that it was quite unexpected Dortmund would survive the group. Then it was unexpected that they win against Atletico and it was certainly unexpected that they could beat PSG. I think nothing is unexpected anymore.


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So that even though in terms of strength Madrid is far superior but still Dortmund cannot be underestimated. the hope is certain that I also hope Madrid can get its 15th trophy this season but something like that needs to be proven by the performance in the final 90 minutes later.

Mistakes can happen to the best teams in the world. Dortmund scored some goals where I thought that probably they will never score that one again, like the header from Fullkrug. It was hit so perfectly that this is not a standard goal at all. Or the one touch control and shot with the left foot. Real Madrid wouldn't be able to defend these goals either. But Dortmund is less likely to score these exceptional goals than Real Madrid and they have less players that are as dangerous as the Real Madrid team and yet they can score one of these lucky shots from a distance and give the game a special drift.

By the way, Dortmund has the fastest player in Bundesliga history. Adeyemi is quite a bit faster than Vinicius Junior. I am sure that not a lot of fans here noticed that. If Dortmund puts in the effort and thrive for records, it is possible to get Real Madrid into big trouble.
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10  Economy / Speculation / Re: How short-term market speculations can help small bitcoin holders on: May 27, 2024, 07:47:00 PM
I have a newbie bitcoin investor close to me and yesterday he made his first gains from his bitcoin holding although a small amount of profit considering his total bitcoin holdings, the gain was about $57 which for him is something he haven't experienced before and it got him excited.


He bought bitcoin when the price touched $60k some days ago with a capital of $600 bought bitcoin and when the market price increased to 66k just within days, he made a trade to take the profits which for him was an exciting results and excellent one at that, so I thought sharing his experience here will give us more avenue to discuss some other possibilities as he continue holding and expecting more profits.

If $57 is what he entered the market for, then congratulations to him, but most of the time traders FOMO and buy back at a higher price. I don't know where your guy is coming from and what $57 means to him, but I doubt that this was the one big deal he was after. Trading back and forth is the best way to lose in the long run in my opinion. Look he only went for 10%, but with BTC volatility and well known breakouts from the past, I am wondering how this strategy would ever please him.

Does he want to exit the market forever or is he one of those traders who thinks he could catch every 10% movement to his own advantage? It is not going to work out like that and I guarantee there are a lot of people here who will tell you that they tried it and it didn't work. BTC is now at 70k and he would have been better off holding.

You said he is a newbie though and that is what newbies do I suppose. A fundamental analysis of the technology and building an understanding for all the implications BTC can bring about would definitely be the best strategy.

Selling at 10% gain with that amount of money doesn't get him anywhere, because what now? What's next? Has he rebought at a higher price already? I guess if someone goes into the market with $100 million and is trying to make 10%, it somehow might make sense as they can trade info they might have. But with relatively slow amounts trading info is not making anyone a lot of money. You'd rather invest and stick to it because you are convinced of the potential.

I am puzzled bny the majority of comments here and how your friend must be blown away to have made 10%, calling it "massive profit", instead of explaining your friend that he is now stuck and should rather come up with a plan. If trading is fun to him, ok, but would never do it with 100% of my holdings, which seems to be the case here.
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You don’t need to on this one.
I just jumped on eBay to see if I could find the item, first generation iPhones and it was right there, offered for sales by some vendors. Some still comes with a price ranged $80-400 but others was in the range of $1.5k and below. I guess these are the once that have heard the news on what it’s going for in auctions and decided to up the price while, the once with lower prices either haven’t heard the news or are replicas.

I’ve got reasons to think that the one that sold for an insane price as stated in the auction could be the prototype but, shouldn’t that be an Apple’s priceless item, well that’s the point, owning the supposedly priceless item but, it doesn’t mean much either. I would still be seeing just how much I spent to get that thing should it not be giving me some return on investment.



No, the point was that it was still in its original packaging. But you can see that it is hard to understand how the original packaging makes a difference given the fact that these items circulate in the millions around the world. But why did somebody now come up with with the idea to pay $190,373 for that iPhone at a public auction? I question the intent people have to pay seemingly unjustified prices for some items. As I said, maybe the buyer has some more of those items himself and is trying to establish a certain value perception to then profit from that later down the road? Could be the same with other things like discussed here in the thread, could be many reasons.

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By some means, it’s a matter of getting these things to the auction house, have a baked story for it and yeah, it’s got to be original, then your sure some dude with just enough dollar to not have needs for it would pick it up as his or her collection.

That's the point. Once you got it to the auction house, the item gets the visibility needed to draw attention from some guy who has been looking for whatever reason for this particular item. In a best case scenario there are two guys, but the thing is that auctions enfold this dynamic among people who have initially not even been interested in that item. But once someone says price A, someone else rich enough might feel tempted to give it a shot, too.
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