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August 01, 2025, 08:09:17 AM
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It saddens me to see football fans (and mainly Ronaldo fans) around the world who watched last nights game and think Al Nassr could play in some European top five league. Just because they beat Toulouse doesn't mean they would be fine, it's clear that if they were in UCL this year for example, they would finish at the bottom or near the bottom, they would not be in top 24.

We cannot even list them in the top 10 leagues in Europe, so Al Nassr doing fine here, or even Al Hilal beating City, these are all not that important when you calculate a teams power. Put them in something that means like UCL, and they will end up getting beaten by even smaller teams because teams will actually care about it, and not use it as a marketing.
How do you arrived at this conclusion mate? You are rating the mate based on geography location and not by team performance none players rating. You think because Al-nassr is in Saudi Arabia they can't compete in with Champions league team, forgetting that most of the players in the Al-nassr team has won many champions league title when they were in Europe and they still have champions league  experience, you can not take that from them.

believe it or not, the Saudi Professional league has developed over the years and can compete with any team in the world. The just concluded World club cup was enough evidence to prove that the league should  be consider top 10 leagues in the world. Al hilal defeated the best team in England Manchester city from behind, they drew with Champions league 2025 champion PSG, come on, they this league there flower.

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August 01, 2025, 08:51:43 AM
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The teams from SPL aren't going to compete with European teams. They'll get victories in some games they're playing like when Al Ahli beat Manchester City or playing friendly games. SPL's a weak league against European leagues.

It saddens me to see football fans (and mainly Ronaldo fans) around the world who watched last nights game and think Al Nassr could play in some European top five league. Just because they beat Toulouse doesn't mean they would be fine, it's clear that if they were in UCL this year for example, they would finish at the bottom or near the bottom, they would not be in top 24.

We cannot even list them in the top 10 leagues in Europe, so Al Nassr doing fine here, or even Al Hilal beating City, these are all not that important when you calculate a teams power. Put them in something that means like UCL, and they will end up getting beaten by even smaller teams because teams will actually care about it, and not use it as a marketing.

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August 01, 2025, 11:34:52 AM
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It saddens me to see football fans (and mainly Ronaldo fans) around the world who watched last nights game and think Al Nassr could play in some European top five league. Just because they beat Toulouse doesn't mean they would be fine, it's clear that if they were in UCL this year for example, they would finish at the bottom or near the bottom, they would not be in top 24.

We cannot even list them in the top 10 leagues in Europe, so Al Nassr doing fine here, or even Al Hilal beating City, these are all not that important when you calculate a teams power. Put them in something that means like UCL, and they will end up getting beaten by even smaller teams because teams will actually care about it, and not use it as a marketing.

The problem with these types of comments is that they're made by people who use their emotions to comment. They don't want to accept that Saudi teams actually have the power to surpass European teams, even Latin American teams can surpass European teams. We have to be realistic.

Al Hilal didn't beat Manchester City by luck; they won because they were stronger. Al Hilal didn't draw with Real Madrid by luck; it was because they are strong. We have to admit this and stop belittling the Saudi League. Even in the past, I thought the Saudis were just wasting money, but today I see that they were very smart.

The teams from SPL aren't going to compete with European teams. They'll get victories in some games they're playing like when Al Ahli beat Manchester City or playing friendly games. SPL's a weak league against European leagues.

You are just using your opinion and ignoring facts. There was an official competition, it wasn't a friendly, it wasn't an opinion, it wasn't an assumption, it was an official competition and this was the result:





Take a good look at the Manchester City and Real Madrid squads. Both teams were playing very seriously against Al Hilal, and the result is clear to see. This was an official competition. There's no doubt that the Saudi teams are strong.

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August 01, 2025, 11:55:41 AM
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believe it or not, the Saudi Professional league has developed over the years and can compete with any team in the world. The just concluded World club cup was enough evidence to prove that the league should  be consider top 10 leagues in the world. Al hilal defeated the best team in England Manchester city from behind, they drew with Champions league 2025 champion PSG, come on, they this league there flower.
The development in the Saudi league for a while now is so obvious I do not want to believe anyone will be doubting that now, them competing with any team in the world is like what every other team in the world can actually do but the concern will be in their performance against the any team around  the work, the kind of results they will produce by the end of the game and what the match statistics will tell about them, when you consider all of this then you will understand they still have more to do in terms.s if getting their football to look like what e have their in europ. All the results you stated above were in just a trial,  can such be replicated if they meet again?.

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August 01, 2025, 02:54:28 PM
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The problem with these types of comments is that they're made by people who use their emotions to comment. They don't want to accept that Saudi teams actually have the power to surpass European teams, even Latin American teams can surpass European teams. We have to be realistic.

Al Hilal didn't beat Manchester City by luck; they won because they were stronger. Al Hilal didn't draw with Real Madrid by luck; it was because they are strong. We have to admit this and stop belittling the Saudi League. Even in the past, I thought the Saudis were just wasting money, but today I see that they were very smart.
They must see how Saudi Arabia national team played well in World Cup 2022 and it is one of evidence about quality of players in that nation. Saudi Professional League has changed in quality especially in their biggest clubs with investment from PIF so that they were able to buy many star players from Europe. These activities improved those club quality and competitiveness a lot.

These latest results against biggest and strongest clubs in Europe, Real Madrid and Manchester City, shows that Al Hila are truly strong. There are two good results, not only one so it is not coincidence or pure luckiness.

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August 01, 2025, 03:33:41 PM
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The problem with these types of comments is that they're made by people who use their emotions to comment. They don't want to accept that Saudi teams actually have the power to surpass European teams, even Latin American teams can surpass European teams. We have to be realistic.
Eh? So if Saudi teams can be better than European teams, which are the best in the world, you are saying that Saudi teams are potentially the best teams in the world, correct? All this because they have a 40-year-old playing for them? So pretty much Saudi teams built in 2 years what it took Real Madrid 100 years of history. Ok.

Al Hilal didn't beat Manchester City by luck; they won because they were stronger. Al Hilal didn't draw with Real Madrid by luck; it was because they are strong. We have to admit this and stop belittling the Saudi League. Even in the past, I thought the Saudis were just wasting money, but today I see that they were very smart.
European players were not happy at all to play the Club World Cup. Al Hilal deserved to draw/win those games but that doesn't make stronger than City and Real Madrid, let's be serious please, with your statement you're pretty much saying that Al Hilal is the strongest team in the world, until 3 years ago people didn't even know Al Hilal existed...

Anyway would I would really like to see from Saudi football is an academy improvement, working with local talents and make them grow, not simply buy foreigners.

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nice win for Al Nasr as they where able to win Toulouse even though it was a friendly game it goes to show how good the quality of the team is this is again a good one for the Saudi league because often times people underestimate it
Several teams from the Saudi Arabian League should not be underestimated, as some of them have been strengthened by top players from Europe, making their strength comparable to European teams, except for those European teams that won their respective domestic leagues and the Champions League last season. I also saw some of the best performances from Al Nassr players, which could be a great asset for them going into next season in the Saudi Arabian League.

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Joao Felix is a piece of shit as a player, he show nothing at all in every team he has played and we are talking about a lot of teams and a lot of leagues which it make all worse, because you maybe cant afford the way of playing or the speed in some league but failing in every single one is something much more serious.
Yes, it's undeniable that Felix has failed to shine in several football leagues. For example, in La Liga, when he played for Barcelona and Atletico Madrid, in Serie A with Milan, and in the Premier League with Chelsea. So, with that in mind, I think Felix really needs to improve his current image. If he fails to perform well in the Saudi Arabian league, I think it will be a huge problem. The Saudi Arabian league is fundamentally not as competitive as the major leagues in Europe. So, if Felix fails again this time, of course, Felix will be labeled a bad player by all teams.

Hahahaha man you made me remind on how much teams he play and is incredible he cant fit in no one, you have to be a complete disaster to not fit in anyone.

I mean how you cant play good in this super Barcelona under the coaching of Hansi Flick and full of rising stars, in Chelsea a disaster in Milan a disaster, in Atletico never reaching his potential(he relly have one?).

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I don't think Casemiro was that bad when Real sold him. Neymar then said that Casemiro is the best defensive midfielder in the world. I don't think he was very biased. But the player is a tool, Ten Hag couldn't use this tool properly. It wasn't Casemiro's problem. He's 33 now and it's clear that for his position it's a significant age, but in the SPL he can definitely play 2-3 seasons at the top level, I would be happy if he moved there.
What Neymar says doesn't really matter, he could be friends and just say stuff for being polite, doesn't change anything. Reality is, we are seeing him play, and while in some games he still shows why he was a great player, that is selective. You do not see him play every single game the same way, he picks games, and in those games he plays like a superstar, at least for United standards at least, and in all other games, he is nowhere to be found because he doesn't care.

This is the trouble for United, nobody really gives their 100%+, confidence is gone, even the players themselves think that they are no longer a good team, and as long as you do not make an overhaul of changes to teams, then you won't be good. Look how terrible they were last year, and look how many of the same players are still there.

The depth of your analysis is amazing  Roll Eyes So you think that "it just happened that way" right? You yourself say that at United the players "for some reason" play worse because they try worse and you shift the blame onto the players and not onto the club?
I am sure that if Casemiro had gone to Bayern or Inter or some other decent club, he would not have lowered the bar so low. The problem is at United. And knowing this, we cannot say that Casemiro was bought at a high price - he was worth the money, the club simply could not use him properly.

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Al-Nassr  football team performance was very excellent against Toulouse football team in the last match as they did excellent job in this match as they did 2 goals in this match and players looked in brilliant mood in this match and they did back to back goals in this match. Gboho was a person who did first goal of the match and he did this goal at 25 minutes when it was requirement of the match and he gave good start to his team when it was required to the team but with time they got low confidence players and they could not do more goals in this match and opponent team players did 2 goals in this match which was back to back. Ronaldo was a person who did second goal of the match and he did this goal at 33 minutes and Maran was a person who did last goal of the match and he did last goal at 76 minutes. Al-Nassr  team won the match due to effort of that player because he did goal at perfect time.
nice win for Al Nasr as they where able to win Toulouse even though it was a friendly game it goes to show how good the quality of the team is this is again a good one for the Saudi league because often times people underestimate it
The Arab League can no longer be underestimated by anyone, as the teams in the Arab league are becoming increasingly qualified. Just look at Al Hilal's performance in the Club World Cup; they were able to pull off a surprise, even though they ultimately lost. The same was true for Al Nassr.

So, the win over Toulouse also proves that Saudi Arabian teams possess good playing quality. For Al Nassr, although this was only a friendly, it was a positive result, boosting their confidence before the league starts. This match also saw the debut of their new player, Jaoa. He played very well in this match. Al Nassr can win the Saudi Pro League next season if they add players to their defense. Because so far, what I've seen is that Al Nassr's weakness lies in their defense. Their midfield is good, their attack is also good, but their back line is very fragile.

 
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Joao Felix is a piece of shit as a player, he show nothing at all in every team he has played and we are talking about a lot of teams and a lot of leagues which it make all worse, because you maybe cant afford the way of playing or the speed in some league but failing in every single one is something much more serious.
I think joao felix is not as bad a player as he has nothing or no abilities to even be called a player. There are many things which need to be considered if the Al-Nassr club wants to sign him then i think they decide after watching some of his skills. Yes , the fact exists that the joao felix did not succeed to perform well in different matches and different leagues. But anything that could happen may be his performance in Al-Nassr will be quite different and amazing. So i think let's the things happen first rather than demotivating him. As the Saudi pro league is a rich league in the sense of finances so any player  his concerns may not focus on career but he can drive a bright future for himself and for the family while being a part of the Saudi pro league.











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Joao Felix is a piece of shit as a player, he show nothing at all in every team he has played and we are talking about a lot of teams and a lot of leagues which it make all worse, because you maybe cant afford the way of playing or the speed in some league but failing in every single one is something much more serious.
I think joao felix is not as bad a player as he has nothing or no abilities to even be called a player. There are many things which need to be considered if the Al-Nassr club wants to sign him then i think they decide after watching some of his skills. Yes , the fact exists that the joao felix did not succeed to perform well in different matches and different leagues. But anything that could happen may be his performance in Al-Nassr will be quite different and amazing. So i think let's the things happen first rather than demotivating him. As the Saudi pro league is a rich league in the sense of finances so any player  his concerns may not focus on career but he can drive a bright future for himself and for the family while being a part of the Saudi pro league.

Some players have played for numerous big clubs and haven't performed to their heart's content. Joao Felix also played for big clubs and didn't perform to their heart's content. Perhaps he'll perform well at his new club.

Playing top-level football for big clubs and doing so every match isn't easy. It can be easier for some players to shine and find happiness in certain leagues. So, we'll see what Joao Felix can achieve in his new adventure. He's a good footballer, but sometimes, when you're not performing as well as you'd like, switching teams can be a more sensible decision.

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August 01, 2025, 08:12:30 PM
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Joao Felix is a piece of shit as a player, he show nothing at all in every team he has played and we are talking about a lot of teams and a lot of leagues which it make all worse, because you maybe cant afford the way of playing or the speed in some league but failing in every single one is something much more serious.
I think joao felix is not as bad a player as he has nothing or no abilities to even be called a player. There are many things which need to be considered if the Al-Nassr club wants to sign him then i think they decide after watching some of his skills. Yes , the fact exists that the joao felix did not succeed to perform well in different matches and different leagues. But anything that could happen may be his performance in Al-Nassr will be quite different and amazing. So i think let's the things happen first rather than demotivating him. As the Saudi pro league is a rich league in the sense of finances so any player  his concerns may not focus on career but he can drive a bright future for himself and for the family while being a part of the Saudi pro league.

Some players have played for numerous big clubs and haven't performed to their heart's content. Joao Felix also played for big clubs and didn't perform to their heart's content. Perhaps he'll perform well at his new club.

Playing top-level football for big clubs and doing so every match isn't easy. It can be easier for some players to shine and find happiness in certain leagues. So, we'll see what Joao Felix can achieve in his new adventure. He's a good footballer, but sometimes, when you're not performing as well as you'd like, switching teams can be a more sensible decision.
Joai flex is one player that has a lot of quality in him but has no been able to bring it to the fullest due to injuries so I pray that this time he can settle down very well in the Saudi league because he has been struggling with forms right from his time in Chelsea good luck to him in his move to the money spending League

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August 01, 2025, 08:24:15 PM
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Joai flex is one player that has a lot of quality in him but has no been able to bring it to the fullest due to injuries so I pray that this time he can settle down very well in the Saudi league because he has been struggling with forms right from his time in Chelsea good luck to him in his move to the money spending League
I checked his injury history (link: https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/joao-felix/verletzungen/spieler/462250) and I don't think the injuries played a big role in his career except for season 21/22. He simply never lived up to the expectations, and to be honest I don't even know how Atletico Madrid thought it was a good idea to spend almost 130 mln for someone who barely played a full season with the first team. It was a huge and super risky bet that they completely lost.

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August 01, 2025, 11:20:44 PM
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Take a good look at the Manchester City and Real Madrid squads. Both teams were playing very seriously against Al Hilal, and the result is clear to see. This was an official competition. There's no doubt that the Saudi teams are strong.
It was truly a dream result for Al Hilal. Al Hilal probably never thought that they would be able to defeat a team like Manchester City so quickly or share points with a world-class team like Real Madrid. While Real Madrid has the best players in the world playing at the same time, Manchester City has the best players and the best managers in the world in both clubs, but Al Hilal has been able to show excellent performance against these two clubs. Due to such a courageous performance by Al Hilal, it is being said that this team will be able to make it to the Champions League like Manchester City and Real Madrid.

Although it is a matter of time now, if this team gets a place in this big tournament, they will try their best to take their team to a better level and they will not think twice about spending money.

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August 01, 2025, 11:22:59 PM
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Al Hilal really want En-Nesyri. However, Fenerbahçe don't want to let him go cheaply. Al Hilal offered 35 million Euro for him, but Fenerbahçe rejected it quickly. Fenerbahçe want at least 40 million Euro and will not budge from that. Youssef En-Nesyri scored 30 goals and provided 5 assists in 52 matches last season. Finding a striker with such impressive statistics is no easy task. If Fenerbahçe were to sell him, replacing him would be extremely challenging. They have signed Jhon Duran, but this doesn't mean they will let En-Nesyri go easily. Al Hilal needs to make a stronger offer.


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August 01, 2025, 11:42:23 PM
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Take a good look at the Manchester City and Real Madrid squads. Both teams were playing very seriously against Al Hilal, and the result is clear to see. This was an official competition. There's no doubt that the Saudi teams are strong.

The Saudi Arabia teams are building some strong teams that can now compete with the big names in football and come ontop. Unlike back when none of this teams can beat the smallest teams in Europe and other top league. I wouldn't say Real Madrid or Manchester city underated Al Hilal when they played because they had most of their best players on the pitch but it's just that Al Hilal played better and got the results they needed. The Saudi teams are getting stronger but let us not forget that they're not yet there when it comes to competing with the best teams in Europe. Neither of those two teams were in form last season.

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August 02, 2025, 03:33:51 AM
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Cristiano Ronaldso ego is the reason why Al Nassr will not win the title. I have to say this, I know people will hate me for saying this, but I have to say this. I can't really see any other way, whenever he plays with another player who is decent, he makes them leave.

Duran was such a good player there that could help, and he made him leave, and Talisca was good there even before he went there, but he made him leave too, and now Felix is there, and we saw what happened in the game, he tried to score and made Felix lose the 100% chance, because Ronaldo wants the freaking statistics to show how much he scores. Hopefully, he can put his ego aside, but the whole Al Nassr team designed to make him reach 1000 goals, nothing more, and that's what he will focus on, not winning.

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August 02, 2025, 07:27:48 AM
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Cristiano Ronaldso ego is the reason why Al Nassr will not win the title. I have to say this, I know people will hate me for saying this, but I have to say this. I can't really see any other way, whenever he plays with another player who is decent, he makes them leave.

Duran was such a good player there that could help, and he made him leave, and Talisca was good there even before he went there, but he made him leave too, and now Felix is there, and we saw what happened in the game, he tried to score and made Felix lose the 100% chance, because Ronaldo wants the freaking statistics to show how much he scores. Hopefully, he can put his ego aside, but the whole Al Nassr team designed to make him reach 1000 goals, nothing more, and that's what he will focus on, not winning.

LOL.. blaming Ronaldo now? He had disagreement with the previous coach, whose tactics resulted in poor performance for Al Nassr during the last two seasons. Stefano Pioli was the one who had ego issues. And from what I can see, after he was replaced by Jorge Jesus, the team bonding and morale has improved significantly. And you can't blame Ronaldo for kicking out Duran. Did you watched any of the matches in which he was in? His performance was disastrous during last season in the Saudi Professional League.


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Duran was such a good player there that could help, and he made him leave, and Talisca was good there even before he went there, but he made him leave too, and now Felix is there, and we saw what happened in the game, he tried to score and made Felix lose the 100% chance, because Ronaldo wants the freaking statistics to show how much he scores. Hopefully, he can put his ego aside, but the whole Al Nassr team designed to make him reach 1000 goals, nothing more, and that's what he will focus on, not winning.
Duran is not a too good player and he has less contributions for Al Nassr than Talisca but is Duran, Talisca or Ronaldo is reason why Al Nassr did not win titles?

If they are reasons, they are only one of reasons, not main ones, not only ones because Al Nassr is weak in defense and they can not blame all defensive weakness on any or some attacking players.

Al Nassr only can win titles if their weakness defense is covered well enough in next seasons and if they can not achieve it, having how many good attacking players can not help them. PSG is an example with good strategic changes, they just won a first Champions League title after many past years failed with many expensive star players.

LOL.. blaming Ronaldo now? He had disagreement with the previous coach, whose tactics resulted in poor performance for Al Nassr during the last two seasons. Stefano Pioli was the one who had ego issues. And from what I can see, after he was replaced by Jorge Jesus, the team bonding and morale has improved significantly. And you can't blame Ronaldo for kicking out Duran. Did you watched any of the matches in which he was in? His performance was disastrous during last season in the Saudi Professional League.
Duran is not good enough in attacks and with a rich and ambitious club like Al Nassr, they won't hesitate to replace players by new ones if they see it is necessary. Al Nassr need to do strategic changes in order to build up a better balanced and stronger team rather than replacing Duran by any new single star player.

They must to change their main squad and player resources strategically at many positions in order to have better balance between attacking and defense as well as deeper player resource so that their team can be competitive and consistent enough within a season.

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