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1  Economy / Gambling / Re: ✨ Shuffle.com | The next generation of crypto casinos | Sports, Casino + token on: April 13, 2024, 06:03:15 PM

Reading on your previous post here makes me think that you didn’t understand carefully what the support said on his statement when he mention about the KYC. Your case is already concluded while providing KYC might give you a chnce re-open the case but that doesn’t mean it solved your care.

The user that you quote doesn’t comprehend well too the support message that probably encourages you to KYC and give false hope that you will recover your funds immediately. You should provide a thorough explanation why the 2 account is not connected. Maybe ask proof how you are connected then provide a valid argument.

I asked them and they just said the investigation is concluded and they can't give anything further.
So basically, all they have is that I tipped my friend $100 and they now believe the accounts are owned by the same person.
Even though we've both sent in KYC and we live in different countries, clown casino

If you use the casino perspective when looking on your case, it’s very hard to determine if you are telling the truth or not since you play games only which means there’s no physical proof that will help you to prove that you and the other account is different.

We all know that you can ask different person to the KYC on the other account which is why a case like this will not simply solved by KYC. Casino is probably holding an evidence related to your IP similarity, betting pattern, withdrawal/deposit and other factors that show similarities on your account.

Do they refund you the initial deposit? Sadly you can get more detailed explanation from the casino through Askgambler or Casino guru because they usually send evidence there once your issue escalated properly.
They paid out my friend, I lost like $4k on my account on their sportsbook/casino.
I guess this is the downside with crypto casinos they can just refuse to pay you at any point and nothing you can really do.
2  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Shuffle.com Airdrop Scam on: April 12, 2024, 10:56:36 AM
My friend has now completed the KYC as requested:
https://prnt.sc/IcKXIFay5Bfx

They have nothing outside of me tipping my friends account $100, both of us have KYC'd and we live in different countries.
Yet they are still absolutely convinced the accounts are somehow owned by the same person, but cannot provide any sort of proof.

I would not play here or if you do completely avoid their tipping feature for any complications with your account, schizo casino lol
3  Economy / Gambling / Re: ✨ Shuffle.com | The next generation of crypto casinos | Sports, Casino + token on: April 12, 2024, 10:38:09 AM

Reading on your previous post here makes me think that you didn’t understand carefully what the support said on his statement when he mention about the KYC. Your case is already concluded while providing KYC might give you a chnce re-open the case but that doesn’t mean it solved your care.

The user that you quote doesn’t comprehend well too the support message that probably encourages you to KYC and give false hope that you will recover your funds immediately. You should provide a thorough explanation why the 2 account is not connected. Maybe ask proof how you are connected then provide a valid argument.

I asked them and they just said the investigation is concluded and they can't give anything further.
So basically, all they have is that I tipped my friend $100 and they now believe the accounts are owned by the same person.
Even though we've both sent in KYC and we live in different countries, clown casino
4  Economy / Gambling / Re: ✨ Shuffle.com | The next generation of crypto casinos | Sports, Casino + token on: April 09, 2024, 03:37:08 PM
I was not limited at the point of my tip, I carried on betting for a week after that point by looking at my transaction history.
I don't know how to prove the account is not mine but it's not mine, like they can do an investigation into everything and they will not find any connection.
I have asked my friend to KYC but again none of this is related to me.. if they don't want non-kyc accounts to be tipped, then change that.
From your point of view it isn't related to you, but from their's it is. So if that indeed is your real friend, i am sure kyc is fine with him / her. If not, your friend is costing you money and both of your accounts.

Consider making official scam accusation in scam accusations thread. But can you explain this?
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Sounds like that person you tipped haven't done any kyc? Maybe if he/she did it, they might believe you are 2 different persons.
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Providing KYC will not make a huge difference on his case. The support mention that they will further investigate once other user complete KYC and doesn’t mean everything will be solve. Anyone can use KYC of other person which the casino is already aware. They will still investigate on the intensity of the connection between the 2 account.

The user is limited on sports betting for a reason while the connected account received a tip from this user and continue the bet which makes me side to the casino on how they handle this issue.
KYC is literally the only thing they are asking for that friend to do next, so why wouldn't it be most important issue here? Only way it wouldn't make huge difference would be if odapoda was double accounting or Shuffle wants to scam him. Refusing to do kyc at this point would just underline suffle's point that he is double accounting and that they were right. So it's the only reasonable step to take

And of course they will investigate further, as it's their job to double check everything. Everyone knows that there are ways to fake identities or steal identities, but that can take time, especially when it's about specific country. So not complying instantly is just more suspicious.

And there of course are official legal ways to approach this if odapoda and a friend are legit.


https://prnt.sc/IcKXIFay5Bfx

My friend sent KYC
5  Economy / Gambling / Re: ✨ Shuffle.com | The next generation of crypto casinos | Sports, Casino + token on: April 07, 2024, 10:39:37 AM
Update:
asked my friend to KYC it's clear the account is not mine. He said KYC is taking an insane amount of time and asking for docs on docs but he's sending everything.

Lets see if they change their minds after he completes it successfully  Shocked
6  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Shuffle.com Airdrop Scam on: April 02, 2024, 12:30:20 AM
That friend of yours in another country, do you know him to a personal level?

How did you conclude that both of you are winning players if it's a completely different account by a different user in a different country?


I am just trying to find answers.
I know him online, he's in the same discord I'm in.
He wins betting so I know he's a winning player from speaking to him.
7  Economy / Gambling / Re: ✨ Shuffle.com | The next generation of crypto casinos | Sports, Casino + token on: April 01, 2024, 07:43:09 PM
Consider making official scam accusation in scam accusations thread. But can you explain this?



Sounds like that person you tipped haven't done any kyc? Maybe if he/she did it, they might believe you are 2 different persons.

Also i don't get what they are talking about by "continuing" the betting. But i guess you fall into some common fraud pattern that people do by tipping. So maybe talk this trough with your friend, that is if that friend is real.

Providing KYC will not make a huge difference on his case. The support mention that they will further investigate once other user complete KYC and doesn’t mean everything will be solve. Anyone can use KYC of other person which the casino is already aware. They will still investigate on the intensity of the connection between the 2 account.

The user is limited on sports betting for a reason while the connected account received a tip from this user and continue the bet which makes me side to the casino on how they handle this issue.


I was not limited at the point of my tip, I carried on betting for a week after that point by looking at my transaction history.
I don't know how to prove the account is not mine but it's not mine, like they can do an investigation into everything and they will not find any connection.
I have asked my friend to KYC but again none of this is related to me.. if they don't want non-kyc accounts to be tipped, then change that.
8  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Shuffle.com Airdrop Scam on: April 01, 2024, 07:30:09 PM
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You have to be transparent when you are creating a scam accusation against any casino. The $100 tip wasn't the primary reason for suspecting the tip receiver as your alt account. I have quoted one image from your chat logs which highlights the main reason of your issue. Shuffle team had applied betting limit on your account for fraudulent behaviour. Seems like you had created another account to bypass the betting limit. You have stated in the first line of your complaint that you weren't happy with the betting limit.
If I wanted to bet more than the limits on my account (which were like $500)
Why would I begin that journey but sending a $100 tip to an account?
You are making up a story, just like the conspiracy casino.

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You can unlock up to 9025 SHFL tokens with your wagering. Currently you are eligible to claim 3245 SHFL tokens for your betting activity, which is worth $850 at this moment. Therefore, the scammed amount doesn't contain accurate information here.
That is true, I will adjust the post accordingly.
It does seem like they vest overtime automatically, but in case price absolutely tanks in the next month that's a fair point.



There’s no way a casino will accuse you of multiple account if you don’t show a hint of being connected to each other. Assuming that you are really not connected, there’s a chance that both of you connected on same internet connection which means you shared IP that is not allowed in the casino.

The support mention something about your bets that potentially abused the airdrop. Your account and the other user that you tipped might doing an arbitrage bet just to take advantage for the airdrop. Many users do this for the sake of promotion, rakeback, cashback, airdrop and other bonuses that based on wagering volume.

Just ask your “friend” to do the KYC on his account and follow the Shuffle support because that’s the only to resolve your problem. You admitted that the account in question is related to you so there’s really a potential connection the casino looking on their accusations.

We are not on the same internet, we are not in the same country. There is nothing outside of a tip sent to an account.
I had absolutely no idea about the airdrop until 2 days ago, was not abusing anything related to it.
I have asked my friend to KYC, but again none of this is my issue. They are just throwing darts here and making big assumptions.
If they don't want the tipping system to work like that then remove it, again not my issue.
9  Economy / Scam Accusations / Shuffle.com Airdrop Scam on: April 01, 2024, 05:07:19 AM
What happened::
I played on shuffle.com end of last year/beginning of this year, I stopped using because stake sizes weren't that big on what I wanted to bet on.
Overall I lost $4k playing, I logged in 2 days ago and saw I had an airdrop to claim which gave me an error when attempting to do so.

I go on live support and ask why it won't let me claim it and I get accused of owning an account I sent a $100 tip to:
https://imgur.com/a/ppoRr9S

To be clear no that is not my account, I used the tipping system to give my friend balance to play as he had no crypto.
Yes they are making up this conspiracy on an account in a $4k losing position to hold an airdrop package.

Scammers Profile Link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3466374

Amount Scammed:
Currently $850 out of a potential $2500 in total airdrop tokens
https://imgur.com/a/ruLPrXu

PM/Chat Logs:
https://imgur.com/a/ppoRr9S

Additional Notes:
Do not play here, big red flag
10  Economy / Gambling / Re: ✨ Shuffle.com | The next generation of crypto casinos | Sports, Casino + token on: April 01, 2024, 04:59:21 AM
I would advise not playing here, I played here during late 2023/2024. stake size got limited fast on sports so I stopped using it.

Logged in 2 days ago and saw I had an airdrop to claim worth a good amount, did not let me claim it so I went on support:

https://imgur.com/a/ppoRr9S

basically accusing me of being some multi account mastermind for tipping a friend to play. (keep in mind I LOST $4k PLAYING)

conspiracy casino, stay far away.
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