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which provider requested an investigation?
betconstruct? lol
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Theres no way a normal stake account has these limits on nba props I have used stake and when my account got semilimited my maxbet on props were around 300$ winnings theres absoluty no way that a new fresh account has a 20k$ winnings limit Is there more background on this guy? Was he a massive loser to get better betting limits? |
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They'll stop or reduce their marketing campaigns if they're illiquid.
This isn't true I know sportsbook with fiat currency that were illiquid and they would still waste a lot on marketing and slow down payments |
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A beginner wont get addicted if he learns the math behind betting odds and casino games
Tbh most of people ignore it because the adrenaline rush from gambling is too much
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From ur list Marco Cage only place bets on low level basket leagues
Bobic only places bets on low level soccer league
Paying for a tipster that is only good on low liquid markets is not a good idea
Bookies will limit you fast plus the max bets on these leagues are too low so paying for these doesnt worht it IMO
Unless you can show me a tipster that has atleast 5% roi on a top league like NBA / UFC / MLB / NFL / NCAAF etc . I would pay for that no problem
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Te voy a dar una respuesta simple, es imposible ganar dinero a largo plazo con slots. PERO, si existe una posibilidad de hacerlo con apuestas deportivas, y te cuento mi estrategia.
Adjunto codigo de javascript, podes ejecutarlo en runjs o cualquier ambiente que te permita utilizar javascript :
function calcularProbabilidad(noDeIntentos, multiplicador) {
var probabilidadDeExito = (100-multiplicador) / 100;
var probabilidadFinal = Math.pow(probabilidadDeExito, noDeIntentos);
return probabilidadFinal;
}
function interesCompuestoAlvarriti(valor, multiplicador, cantidad) {
let resultado = valor;
let total = 0;
for (let i = 0; i < cantidad; i++) {
resultado *= (1 + multiplicador / 100);
total += resultado;
// Verificar si la iteración actual es una de las especificadas
console.log(`${(i + 1)}) ${resultado.toLocaleString('en-us')} (%${calcularProbabilidad(i, multiplicador).toLocaleString('en-us')}) `);
}
return {
resultado: resultado,
total: total.toLocaleString('en-us')
};
}
interesCompuestoAlvarriti(100,15,50);
En el ejemplo, se utilizan 50 veces una apuesta de 100 dolares, con 15% de margen , es decir cuota de 1.15, nada dificil para un partido de futbol o tenis.
al cabo de 50 apuestas, sumando capital + las ganancias previas , terminas con un saldo de $108.635
Esta es la unica forma real de ganar dinero y es comprobando, se puede hacer facilmente 10x del capital original.
No obstante, siempre se puede perder, por ende no apuestes , pero si aun asi decidis apostar, hacelo de forma inteligente, cuando estes en profit , retira tu capital inicial y segui con el dinero del casino.
Llevo desde 2018 con roi positivo en apuestas deportivas y desde el 2020 solo en mercados likidos y te puedo asegurar que es semi imposible ganar a estas cuotas, solo e conocido a 1 persona con roi positivo a cuotas/odds bajas pero es en la liga peruana de futbol |
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-SNIP
Imagine being so guilty that the only thing you can dwell on is a typo, to try and misdirect from everything else that has happened. You have been caught lying in this thread multiple times. You lost multiple mediation attempts. Lock this thread. It's over. You are the one that got caught lying on this thread -I lost one mediation by a licensor that cant see the difference between a bitcoin wallet and a litecoin wallet -I have shown my transactions that I never used betcoin on October 2023 but the licensor/representative never gave me any evidence that I did -The representive lied by saying that my account had USDT transactions available, when I shown evidence he refused to give an answer -Be careful by using betcoin.ag as you can see in my thread their licensor will make "typos" and ignore your emails. |
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-SNIP
scam noun a dishonest scheme; a fraud. That is what you tried to do to us, by fraudulently pretending to be a different person when you created the 2nd account. This was proven when 2 different mediators rejected your case. All we did was enforce the rules you agreed to when you signed up. the mediator didnt even look at your proof lol the licensor mentioned that I used the same "bitcoin" wallet when I have shown evidence that my betcoin account had only litecoin transactions. This is a big mistake on their part and it shows that they are not serious at all I guess 19 ltc is the price to learn how GC operates |
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Is that why you chose Betcoin? I chose betcoin because of the nba props offered by your sportbook
Both of those cases resulted in the players receiving payment
You scammed the winnings of the first guy , the only difference is that you scammed all my funds Selective scam clients is basically how betcoin works |
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if we held the funds of everyone who won $1400.
Its not about the amount tho, one recreational player can win 100k$ by luck in the sportsbook and you should keep them if he won doing -ev stuff like placing underdog accas on high liquit markets You think maybe that would've come out at some point during the 11 years we have been in business?
Idk it seems like it happened before o,O just by looking at the threads: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456682.msg62437358#msg62437358https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5439834.0Books can work 10+ years and still selective scam people like 1xbet tbh and nothing will change |
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IMO their book only aims to keep recreational players
We had no issue paying you out on your first account. That's why you came back, of course, and that's why we have to be firm on the additional ones. As I showed my wallet transactions I never used betcoin on October 2023, I never go back to books that I have been limited thats why I tried betcoin in the first place. If I were multi accounting I would stay with the same books lol
and more concerned about no one taking your action
Soft books dont like winning players so they limit good players, actually I would be more concerned if all books take my action that means im actually bad at placing bets Betcoin has more satisfied users each day, many of who win without having to cheat and are paid immediately.
I highly doubt you have any sharp as your client, If someone beats you, you would accuse of cheating and hold their funds Most of your playerbase should be recreational gamblers that just play for fun Limiting winning players is fine imo and part of the game, I understand the industry and books dont like to lose but holding funds is something else |
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I don't think GC don't have any clue at what they're looking at, I'll say it's safe to say that they've had experience with thousands of cases like this.
If they know what they are looking at why would they say that I used the same "bitcoin wallet" when my thread shows that my betcoin account only used litecoin and you've agreed that the dispute resolution made by the third party is final and bindings
Yeah because I thought they would be fair, the interaction with them was weird when I asked them what was going on because I didnt fill their form yet I got a reply by them asking to fill my form so they can contact betcoin and after 5 minutes I got the final email that I showed you It is what it is I guess, I hope this thread can help other people IMO their book only aims to keep recreational players and If they think you are beating them they will use some random excuse to hold your money Interesting thing though, you're limited on other casino for... what reason?
As a winning player its commong being limited by soft books when you are constant at beating the closing line value I had like 7% roi on regular nba props this season, the only books that dont limit winning players are pinnacle and exchanges (Im not sure if I should add betonline/sportsbetting to this list yet , I have been using them for months now withouth being limited but maybe in the future they will limit me, but if they dont limit me after a few years then they are great too) |
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Im suprised by GC's answer tbh They said Betcoin linked me to another account that was limited by their sportsbook provider for placing bets using banned technology on October 2023. They said I used the same ip/device and the same BITCOIN wallet
to fund the accounts This is actually imposible. Im new to the crypto world and I only used Binance as my wallet for all my crypto sportsbooks On October 2023 I only have transactions in my binance account to stake and sportsbetting/betonline wallets: https://ibb.co/Dfvcp2VAnd you can see in this thread that I only used LTC on my betcoin account, I stopped using bitcoin due to altcoins having less fees and their transaction are fasters I read about Betcoin in late January / early February 2024, I looked them at first then I finally signed up on March due to being limited on other sportsbook so I was going to try it to see if they are legit heres my betcoin deposits: https://ibb.co/KrLZ6MHThe fact that GC said "bitcoin" wallet makes me think that they have no clue at what they are looking at and I believe I got scammed by betcoin. I find it impossible to belive that my same IP/device was used on another account Is there anything else I can show as a proof that I never used betcoin before this year? |
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Thats weird, they told me they didn't contact their Licensee yet  I highly doubt they would have said that, as it is false, and we sent proof that they contacted us to @holydarkness. I sent proof to @holydarkness that they said that they will contact their Licensee after I fill their form on April 11 |
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This case got real strange. David is going to make the decision and the OP complains to AG about David’s actions rather than the money he’s claiming to be owed. Of course that case isn’t going anywhere.
OP- are your bets limit bets on props?
No , I never got limited on betcoin Given your answer above, you're not reaching GC?
We received an inquiry from the licensor about 10 days ago and promptly replied with evidence of multiple violations of terms of service. This matter should be considered closed. Thats weird, they told me they didn't contact their Licensee yet Did they already make a decision withouth me filling a detailed form lol, why should they ask me to fill their form if they already contacted you o,O this is super weird imo |
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AG refused to mediate
As I've explained to you on PM when you reached to me, their refusal is most likely due to how you wording your case to them, which sounds like you asked them to mediate them to fire Betcoin's "rude" representative, of which --as I explained-- clearly outside their scope and capacity, not because they don't want to mediate your case per se. AG's staff suggested you to reach to their licensor. I assumed your silence for these long is because you're currently attempting to reach GC, that's why I refrained from explaining the situation to Peeps Place when he inquired an update. Given your answer above, you're not reaching GC? I contacted GC |
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Anyway, how's that complaint on AG? I still can't see it. Have you submitted it?
Yea I submited it and they said it can take up to 96 hours to process |
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You said that Betcoin didn't have USDT but you tried to exchange it to USDT?
Yea I had 19 LTC at the end and I wanted to withdraw it and have my money on usdt. If I see another nba prop that I liked on betcoin, I would exchange a bit to ltc again and play there. Most of my bets are around 100-600$ so I would only exchange to ltc if needed My first withdraw was pretty fast so I assumed I could withdraw everytime I had too much ltc The fact I couldnt place bets with a stable coin made betcoin for me as my last option to place a bet On a good night I can place 20 nba props but the max bets I had on betcoin on a single night was around 5
You also said you asked chat about BUSD because it wasn't listed. Why didn't you ask about USDT if it wasn't listed?
https://ibb.co/Pm9LcrsBUSD is listed, USDT isnt listed I asked the chat only about BUSD because it was on my list of currencies available I assumed USDT wasnt available because I dont see it there, but the representative just told me it has always been available but he cant tell me why my account didn't have it listed |
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OP, I'm curious about one thing, that I took to bed last night and still can't figure it out. You said you're a software engineer who are familiar with basic html formats, it wouldn't too far fetched to assume you're quite familiar with web design too, yet it didn't cross your mind to try to look at the bottom of GC's page to find their contact? You just click one button and, "oh, ok, it didn't work. Let me google their contact."
I believe I am as good as blind when it comes to coding and web design, yet that's one of the first place I come [me, a "muggle" on the world of coding] whenever I try to find the website's contact.
How? Why? So many questions.
I dislike web design and I tend to google everything thats how I discovered this forum https://ibb.co/5KVjJ5N |
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