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1  Economy / Services / Re: [www.easy2mine.com] 195$,the sales promotion of used s3 miner on: October 13, 2014, 10:42:50 PM
I'm loving the "Ignore" button.

This is a much nicer thread now.

I don't even have to read the FUD & SPAM & General Negative Vibes anymore Grin

Try it - You'll like it Wink

Funny seams customers have been able to ignore the buy button on his site.  Must be a popular button.
2  Economy / Services / Re: [www.easy2mine.com] 195$! The group buy of used antminer S3 bitcoin miner on: October 13, 2014, 10:38:12 PM
his deal works for anyone with power costs above 40 a month.
 he wants 33 x 3 or 99 a unit for power.  s-3s in my state cost about 46 or 47 a month in power.
 he has a product that works for some of us.

Me I do almost no mining just 6x s-3's .

  I did something I do not normally do I purchased coins. I am looking for coins to go back up to 600 then sell some off.



And anyone who is ok with a month to two old unit.  They are in the data center with DIRT FLOORS.   He literaly is going to have down time to clean dirt out of miners!

Do not forget this is a batch 2 S3.  Discounts were given as not all got 440 GHz.  The normal range is 420-440 with batch 1 and 2. 

If you buy direct from bitmain you get a S3 PLUS with up to 60 GHz more, and it has better resell value. 

If you truly want to host in his dirt floor, dusty, hard on miner center your better off shipping a new S3 + to the data center.  Dont get these used hard batch 2's from a dirt data center.

He wants rid of these so bad hes temporary has put sold out on 1T and 1.5 T dragon.   

I just want to throw in my 2c about S1/S3 reliability.
Most of the Batch 2 S3 units i have are still running fine. Of 5, 2 clocked to 500GH, 1@475GH, 1@440GH, 1@425GH. The overall average speed was appreciable.
They have run for several months, and are looking well on track to a positive ROI, especially if you consider the resale value in BTC right now. They have accumulated dust (its a good environment but not perfect), and its shown no harm, other than slightly louder, fuzzy fans.
I ran S1 units in some of the dustiest conditions (floor level over carpet) for over 6months without any issues (dusty fans draw more power and get loud trying to keep the machine cool of course) to the hashing speeds and reliability. The S3 should handle it even better with 2 fans and a case.

IMO its not a bad deal, considering i pay $0.15/kwh right now

and at .15 a kwatt you are the right customer as I would be since I am at 16 cents a kwatt.

I dont think anyone is right customer for hosting in dirt floor.  He has already said he needs to close for hours to clean machines....

People are speaking with their money.... he cant even sell these since he pushes so hard for hosting. 
3  Economy / Services / Re: [www.easy2mine.com] 195$,the sales promotion of used s3 miner on: October 13, 2014, 10:36:05 PM
And maybe you should start a new thread to advertise a such good deal.
Sorry, but here we are "just" dealing with M. Lee. Or should I say doing buisness with M. Lee...

No i will talk about his dirt low deal here.  Get it.... dirt low as it runs in dirt and dust.

Cant wait till downtime for him get dirt out of machines.  It will not be 3 hours if he truly opens each one.  If 3 hours hes just changing fans he killed with hot dirty building.
4  Economy / Services / Re: [www.easy2mine.com] 195$,the sales promotion of used s3 miner on: October 13, 2014, 03:18:07 AM
A FYI buy direct from bitmain not these used dusty S3 batch 2's.

If you buy DIRECT from Bitmain it is .58 BTC for each.  .58 each = $202 at current price.

So for $7 dollars more i get a brand new miner with a warranty that has not been used for a month. And the miner has not been ran for a month on a dirt floor! And its a S3 PLUS.

Do you think it's worth a extra 7 dollars for brand new model that is a S3 plus? I do!

And the plus accounts for a certain amount of hashes more Wink

And does not need dirt removal from his dirt floor data center. Smiley
5  Economy / Services / Re: [www.easy2mine.com] 195$! The group buy of used antminer S3 bitcoin miner on: October 13, 2014, 03:16:33 AM
his deal works for anyone with power costs above 40 a month.
 he wants 33 x 3 or 99 a unit for power.  s-3s in my state cost about 46 or 47 a month in power.
 he has a product that works for some of us.

Me I do almost no mining just 6x s-3's .

  I did something I do not normally do I purchased coins. I am looking for coins to go back up to 600 then sell some off.



And anyone who is ok with a month to two old unit.  They are in the data center with DIRT FLOORS.   He literaly is going to have down time to clean dirt out of miners!

Do not forget this is a batch 2 S3.  Discounts were given as not all got 440 GHz.  The normal range is 420-440 with batch 1 and 2. 

If you buy direct from bitmain you get a S3 PLUS with up to 60 GHz more, and it has better resell value. 

If you truly want to host in his dirt floor, dusty, hard on miner center your better off shipping a new S3 + to the data center.  Dont get these used hard batch 2's from a dirt data center.

He wants rid of these so bad hes temporary has put sold out on 1T and 1.5 T dragon.   
6  Economy / Services / Re: [www.easy2mine.com] 195$! The group buy of used antminer S3 bitcoin miner on: October 13, 2014, 12:07:17 AM
first, the price we set included psu, bitmain not, you need buy a psu and that is about 35$
second, we can let the miner work for you asap when you pay us, bitmain still not
third, if you think the miner you buy from bitmian is brand new, you are wrong, they also already working for bitmain before shipping out

First they SHIP to you they don't try to force you to host with them. Your forgetting you are wanting to host.....
Second they will ship you a S3 PLUS  Long term the 500 instead of 420-440 makes the S3 plus a better deal! More efficient and more power!
Third it is new..... they have not been ran in a DIRT floor like yours!  Please provide proof they are not just testing.  
if you want to buy one s3 and run in your room, no proble, if you want to buy 10 s3 and run in your room, a little problem
if you want to buy 100 s3 and run in your room, wow, you will see it become impossible

7 dollars extra for a S3 Plus that is new.  It's worth it.

Considering you cant sell the 40 you said you needed to let alone the 80..... i don't we have to worry about you selling 100. Your dirt center scared us away!

People will pay the 7 dollars extra and you are stuck with used dusty batch 2's!

and bitmaintech wants me to buy 2 for .58 each = 1.16 and shipping to usa is .39 btc = 1.55 btc for 2 units  377 x 1.55   = 584 delivered to my home in NJ usa.       no power no psu    

 for  195+ 195 + 198 =  588 I get 2 hosted units with 90 days power and psu's included

so 584 no power paid no psu or 588 both power and psu paid.  

   Lee has been pretty good but not perfect seller.  bitmaintech has been pretty good but not perfect seller/builder.

frankly if you want the gear in house use bitmaintech.   it costs more to do it but you have the gear in house.
if you want to save money use Lee and easy2mine.

I am no longer doing much mining anymore but this deal is pretty good.


If comparing fair you should add shipping to his to.  He is more interested in hosting as he does not want empty spots.

And don't forget these are month to two old batch 2's.  The new batches are S3 PLUS.  You could get up to 60 or so GHz more per miner. 

Either way his price is to high compared to getting a S3 Plus brand new that has new warranty, and has not been run in a data center with dirt floors.  The S3's hes selling have been used hard.

And if you do host there do not forget ""it is true that we have no insurance to cover fire, because no insurance company will provide such service, so we have pointed a team to guard the farm 24-h, to make sure that we can avoid such disaster".  At home you have home owners, renters, etc depending on what you pay.   There fire or theft its gone.
7  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S4 Discussion and Support Thread on: October 12, 2014, 08:27:20 PM
Why does Bitmain sell to pcfli?

He lied about S4 release date to sale his stock of LKETC's "BTW, i have confirmed with the owner of bitmain and lketc that the S4 will not released before 7/10/2014"

Hes now accusing Bitmain of mining with hardware to the point products are not new, and no different then his month + old miners. ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=765500.msg9175100#msg9175100 )

Do you really have a relationship with pcfli? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=253683 or is he just a buyer.  He makes it sound like he knows owner and inside info.
8  Economy / Services / Re: [www.easy2mine.com] 195$! The group buy of used antminer S3 bitcoin miner on: October 12, 2014, 03:03:44 PM
first, the price we set included psu, bitmain not, you need buy a psu and that is about 35$
second, we can let the miner work for you asap when you pay us, bitmain still not
third, if you think the miner you buy from bitmian is brand new, you are wrong, they also already working for bitmain before shipping out

First they SHIP to you they don't try to force you to host with them. Your forgetting you are wanting to host.....
Second they will ship you a S3 PLUS  Long term the 500 instead of 420-440 makes the S3 plus a better deal! More efficient and more power!
Third it is new..... they have not been ran in a DIRT floor like yours!  Please provide proof they are not just testing.  
if you want to buy one s3 and run in your room, no proble, if you want to buy 10 s3 and run in your room, a little problem
if you want to buy 100 s3 and run in your room, wow, you will see it become impossible

7 dollars extra for a S3 Plus that is new.  It's worth it.

Considering you cant sell the 40 you said you needed to let alone the 80..... i don't we have to worry about you selling 100. Your dirt center scared us away!

People will pay the 7 dollars extra and you are stuck with used dusty batch 2's!
9  Economy / Services / Re: [www.easy2mine.com] 195$! The group buy of used antminer S3 bitcoin miner on: October 12, 2014, 02:54:26 PM
first, the price we set included psu, bitmain not, you need buy a psu and that is about 35$
second, we can let the miner work for you asap when you pay us, bitmain still not
third, if you think the miner you buy from bitmian is brand new, you are wrong, they also already working for bitmain before shipping out

First they SHIP to you they don't try to force you to host with them. Your forgetting you are wanting to host.....
Second they will ship you a S3 PLUS  Long term the 500 instead of 420-440 makes the S3 plus a better deal! More efficient and more power!
Third it is new..... they have not been ran in a DIRT floor like yours!  Please provide proof they are not just testing.  
10  Economy / Services / Re: [www.easy2mine.com] 195$,the sales promotion of used s3 miner on: October 12, 2014, 02:49:17 PM
A FYI buy direct from bitmain not these used dusty S3 batch 2's.

If you buy DIRECT from Bitmain it is .58 BTC for each.  .58 each = $202 at current price.

So for $7 dollars more i get a brand new miner with a warranty that has not been used for a month. And the miner has not been ran for a month on a dirt floor! And its a S3 PLUS.

Do you think it's worth a extra 7 dollars for brand new model that is a S3 plus? I do!
11  Economy / Services / Re: [www.easy2mine.com] 195$! The group buy of used antminer S3 bitcoin miner on: October 12, 2014, 02:42:48 PM
we will proceed a maintenance on xuzhou data center and update the firmware to let the miner automatically start after power off and on, and clean the dust, check the electricity line


You just cant make this stuff up!  The dust center, dirt center, data center needs to clean dirt out of your miners as it kills miners!

Also its a better deal to the new S3 PLUS direct then buy these old miners here. 
do you have any place that sell s3 plus at that price?

Yes ... i guess someone does not look up current prices for new.  But what do we expect from someone who lied about S4 delivery dates to get more sales.

If you buy DIRECT from Bitmain it is .58 BTC for each.  .58 each = $202 at current price.

So for $7 dollars more i get a brand new miner with a warranty that has not been used for a month. And the miner has not been ran for a month on a dirt floor! And its a S3 PLUS.

Do you think it's worth a extra 7 dollars for brand new model that is a S3 plus? I do!
12  Economy / Services / Re: [www.easy2mine.com] 195$! The group buy of used antminer S3 bitcoin miner on: October 12, 2014, 12:51:08 AM
we will proceed a maintenance on xuzhou data center and update the firmware to let the miner automatically start after power off and on, and clean the dust, check the electricity line


You just cant make this stuff up!  The dust center, dirt center, data center needs to clean dirt out of your miners as it kills miners!

Also its a better deal to the new S3 PLUS direct then buy these old miners here. 
13  Economy / Services / Re: [www.easy2mine.com] 195$,the sales promotion of used s3 miner on: October 12, 2014, 12:48:09 AM
we will proceed a maintenance on xuzhou data center and update the firmware to let the miner automatically start after power off and on, and clean the dust, check the electricity line


You just cant make this stuff up!  The dust center, dirt center, data center needs to clean dirt out of your miners as it kills miners!
14  Economy / Services / Re: [www.easy2mine.com] 0.118$/kw the mining host service from China on: October 10, 2014, 01:15:42 AM
Again do you currently have fire or theft insurance? I'm asking YOU pcfli.

You said before"it is true that we have no insurance to cover fire, because no insurance company will provide such service, so we have pointed a team to guard the farm 24-h, to make sure that we can avoid such disaster"

Has anything changed??? Or still true no real insurance!!!
15  Economy / Services / Re: [www.easy2mine.com]1379$ dragon 1.5T bitcoin miner and 400$ for antminer S3 on: October 10, 2014, 01:07:47 AM

As for 'BigBenny', he appears to be a pure fud-pedlar (& possibly a sock-puppet for another supplier?) who would have got a PROPER Lion-ing had he tried such in my territory.

FUD?

He wont admit if its true he has NO INSURANCE for miners!
It does not matter how nice new data center is! Hes renting space in it he did not build it!  And do you admit old miners will stay in current data center they will not be moved?

No insurance, technical problems, read a few pages before buying.

Okay Mr Big(Mouth)Benny -

{Claws sharp & unsheathed - Check. Jaws ready for action - Check}

You didn't have the sense to just go away quietly and FUD someone else. Or even better, just do humanity a favour & step in front of a train.

But hey, as a 'veteran' of a whole 20 posts here (All but your very first one slagging off Mr Lee - I've checked), of course we're all going to be cowed into silence by your insightful & empowering words.

(Yes, sarcasm. We Brits seem to have a natural talent for it.)

Now, let's perform the autopsy on your  - let's be kind & call then 'thoughts', shall we?

Mr Lee has already said that if anyone wishes to have extra cover on their operations, they are quite welcome to go forth & arrange it themselves. Personally, I'll be happy with the 'insurance' that he DOES offer - in the form of guaranteed uptime & compensation if that's not met.

Personally, the only insurance of any kind I have is that which the law (of England) says I can't avoid i.e. Driving insurance.

So I ask you directly - what insurance do you have right now? Indeed, WHAT are you mining, WHERE are you mining it & WHAT equipment are you using?

Me? Thanks for asking Grin

I'm mining the Blake-256 Ecosystem, from my home, on 2 PCs. No.1 has an HD7990, No.2 has an HD5870. Together they give me 6.8 GH/s. If they go 'bang', it's up to ME to fix it & I don't expect anyone to compensate me for missed profit. If they set my beautiful cottage on fire & I lose everything - Hey, no regrets, I've had a good life.

Perhaps the difference between us is that I DON'T think the world owes me anything I haven't earned through honest graft?

TBT I don't think you'll find a reputable insurer anywhere in the world that'll give cover for missed mining profits anyway, especially for equipment hosted in a strange & distant land. Definitely not for a price that doesn't destroy your margins.

Oh, and by-the-by, I've read every single post on this thread, plus I've had several informative email & DM conversations with Mr Lee, PLUS I've 'done the maths' on profitability PLUS PLUS I've examined independent tests & reviews of the equipment I intend to purchase. As everyone investing that much in anything should do.

It's called 'Due Diligence', you should really give it a whirl sometime.

Okay, I've been very gentle with you - by my standards at least Wink

If you really want to 'challenge the Lion', come on over to 'my place' & try to talk like you've been talking here:-

 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=487814

You have a BAD ATTITUDE, dude. It's not too late to change.

Think about it.

I am talking about theft and fire insurance!

He avoids as he has no THEFT/FIRE insurance! 

Do not call FUD if you dont understand.
you think we will leave thousands of miners in one building without any protection,  do you know that the miner usually value 6000$ when the first miner hosted in my place
 do you ever see that any customer report his miner missing,
 stupid person think in stupid way


These are for pcfli not you simba
1)Do you have fire and theft insurance? You avoid this!  Its a yes or no.
16  Economy / Services / Re: [www.easy2mine.com] 0.118$/kw the mining host service from China on: October 09, 2014, 09:24:38 PM
Dude, you ignored MY questions!

Hypocrite

It was a stupid question.  YES i think you should have fire/theft insurance.  A true datacenter does have a insurance policy to insure your equipment is not lost in fire/theft.

pcfLIE has skipped my question so many times dont pretend like its me. He will not admit he does not have fire/theft insurance!!

Below should not be a data center.... it is a dirt floor, dusty, horrible place that is KILLING miners.  Will all old miners be moved to new building he RENTS spots at .... no.



Ask a stupid question get a stupid answer.
17  Economy / Services / Re: [www.easy2mine.com] 450$! The group buy of used dragon 1T bitcoin miner on: October 09, 2014, 05:03:49 PM
Still not answering questions!

Do you admit you have no fire/theft insurance??
18  Economy / Services / Re: [www.easy2mine.com]1379$ dragon 1.5T bitcoin miner and 400$ for antminer S3 on: October 09, 2014, 05:01:47 PM

As for 'BigBenny', he appears to be a pure fud-pedlar (& possibly a sock-puppet for another supplier?) who would have got a PROPER Lion-ing had he tried such in my territory.

FUD?

He wont admit if its true he has NO INSURANCE for miners!
It does not matter how nice new data center is! Hes renting space in it he did not build it!  And do you admit old miners will stay in current data center they will not be moved?

No insurance, technical problems, read a few pages before buying.

Okay Mr Big(Mouth)Benny -

{Claws sharp & unsheathed - Check. Jaws ready for action - Check}

You didn't have the sense to just go away quietly and FUD someone else. Or even better, just do humanity a favour & step in front of a train.

But hey, as a 'veteran' of a whole 20 posts here (All but your very first one slagging off Mr Lee - I've checked), of course we're all going to be cowed into silence by your insightful & empowering words.

(Yes, sarcasm. We Brits seem to have a natural talent for it.)

Now, let's perform the autopsy on your  - let's be kind & call then 'thoughts', shall we?

Mr Lee has already said that if anyone wishes to have extra cover on their operations, they are quite welcome to go forth & arrange it themselves. Personally, I'll be happy with the 'insurance' that he DOES offer - in the form of guaranteed uptime & compensation if that's not met.

Personally, the only insurance of any kind I have is that which the law (of England) says I can't avoid i.e. Driving insurance.

So I ask you directly - what insurance do you have right now? Indeed, WHAT are you mining, WHERE are you mining it & WHAT equipment are you using?

Me? Thanks for asking Grin

I'm mining the Blake-256 Ecosystem, from my home, on 2 PCs. No.1 has an HD7990, No.2 has an HD5870. Together they give me 6.8 GH/s. If they go 'bang', it's up to ME to fix it & I don't expect anyone to compensate me for missed profit. If they set my beautiful cottage on fire & I lose everything - Hey, no regrets, I've had a good life.

Perhaps the difference between us is that I DON'T think the world owes me anything I haven't earned through honest graft?

TBT I don't think you'll find a reputable insurer anywhere in the world that'll give cover for missed mining profits anyway, especially for equipment hosted in a strange & distant land. Definitely not for a price that doesn't destroy your margins.

Oh, and by-the-by, I've read every single post on this thread, plus I've had several informative email & DM conversations with Mr Lee, PLUS I've 'done the maths' on profitability PLUS PLUS I've examined independent tests & reviews of the equipment I intend to purchase. As everyone investing that much in anything should do.

It's called 'Due Diligence', you should really give it a whirl sometime.

Okay, I've been very gentle with you - by my standards at least Wink

If you really want to 'challenge the Lion', come on over to 'my place' & try to talk like you've been talking here:-

 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=487814

You have a BAD ATTITUDE, dude. It's not too late to change.

Think about it.

I am talking about theft and fire insurance!

He avoids as he has no THEFT/FIRE insurance! 

Do not call FUD if you dont understand.
19  Economy / Services / Re: [www.easy2mine.com]1379$ dragon 1.5T bitcoin miner and 400$ for antminer S3 on: October 08, 2014, 03:04:02 PM
I still have faith for the future of BTC.

The plans I discussed privately with Mr. Lee are still going ahead, hopefully this month.

As for 'BigBenny', he appears to be a pure fud-pedlar (& possibly a sock-puppet for another supplier?) who would have got a PROPER Lion-ing had he tried such in my territory. Best either ignore the lame twat or better yet, just delete his worthless rantings.

The FACT that he still tries to cause disruption about the construction photo of the now-complete data centre proves his motives.

There are hundreds if not thousands of happy customers who don't even need to post here.

FUD?

He wont admit if its true he has NO INSURANCE for miners!
It does not matter how nice new data center is! Hes renting space in it he did not build it!  And do you admit old miners will stay in current data center they will not be moved?

No insurance, technical problems, read a few pages before buying.
20  Economy / Services / Re: [www.easy2mine.com]1379$ dragon 1.5T bitcoin miner and 400$ for antminer S3 on: October 06, 2014, 02:19:40 PM
Do you admit no insurance?Huh

YOU AVOID THIS!!!
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