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This Company Report about Alpha came in today on Companies House:
AA01(ef) Change of accounting reference date
Company Name: ALPHA TECHNOLOGY (INT) LTD
Company Number: 08483921
Received for filing in Electronic Format on the: 01/05/2014
The accounting reference period ending 30/04/2014 is extended so as at to end on 31/08/2014
Subsequent periods will end on the same day and month in future years
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When we hit 100 members at http://www.fightalpha.net I will send a mass email out to get a feel for the interest in a class-action lawsuit. There is a firm based in the UK that will be happy to litigate with that number. I am also in. Hope we get enough people together. Question is if you can file a claim on your own AND a class action. Because I guess many here already started their claim. |
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cause why the heck would they else write such thing knowing this complete bullshit
Really?? Cause Alpha NEVER write complete bullshit  we are talking about telling bullshit to the court which could lead to a default judgement against them. anyone with a clear mind wouldnt write a defense to court which is could easily be proofed wrong by a law student 1st sem. i am not a lawyer and i couldnt find anything concerning that on the net. but there must be a clear answer to whether uk jurisdiction applies to non uk residents or not. and i am not talking about using mcol with a foreign address, which is indeed possible but being a non uk citizen. |
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here are the documents from companies house about alpha-t from 2014. http://www.xup.to/dl,23926743/alpha_t_2014.zip/maybe its of use for some people here. at least they still defend their claims made against them. so not ran off completely. whats strange is that some claimants get the defense of not being a uk customer and therefore claim is out of uk jurisdiction. could there possibly be a sneaky way that alpha-t is right here? cause why the heck would they else write such thing knowing this complete bullshit |
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Will BitPay help us at all since they were the bitcoin payment processor?
This is what BitPay says: "As a payment processor, BitPay has no recourse or involvement in the fulfillment of a transaction. For this same reason fully paid invoices require explicit merchant approval to be refunded." and "We have already received several complaints regarding this merchant. Our compliance team has already restricted the account activity and is trying to negotiate resolution of outstanding purchaser compliants with the merchant." They cant help you to get your money back, but if you need proof of payment e.g. for court then they can provide u with the url of your paid invoice. |
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It shouldn't matter where you're located. As long as you can comply with the U.K. court's instructions you should be covered. It sounds like they require a U.K. address which can be rented from a mail box store. I would assume all of the mail would be automatically forwarded to where you are located. Since you are using a U.K. address in court it shouldn't matter what country you're from. Someone please confirm?
Look under Step3 (page10) of the mcol quickstart guide ( http://www.justice.gov.uk/downloads/courts/mcol-quickstart-guide.pdf) It says: "Correspondence address If you registered as an individual / organisation This should be your correspondence address. You only need to complete this screen if the address you have already provided is outside of the United Kingdom. Your service address must be within the United Kingdom in order to use MCO" So you can file your claim even if you are not from UK. Has anyone already won a case against alpha except the user "chopsbit"?? Do they pay or do we need to send bailiffs to collect payment? |
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Right, but we're talking about enforcing a judgement. Reversing a bank transfer or performing a chargeback means the payment processor reversed the charges, which does not require anything from AT. Winning a judgement and then successfully collecting on it which is what that person wants to do) means they presented AT with a court order and AT then returned their money. The former is, relatively speaking, easy to do as it does not require compliance from AT. The latter, is almost impossible since it requires compliance from AT, and they have demonstrated time and again they are not going to comply with the law. I am almost certain no one has successfully enforced a judgement against them and gotten actual money out of it.
Think so too. We only heard of one person, the user "chopsbit", who got refunded £405 after winning judgment against alpha. But there are lots of people who filed a claim. Anyone else successful?? |
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I am also going for a claim if they don’t refund me or don’t answer my mails anymore.
There is no doubt that a claim would be successful because Q3 delivery is stated in their terms. They must know this and so I would find it strange if Alpha didn’t at least offer 80% or sth. like that. Because else they will have to pay 100% plus court fees etc.
Unless their defence is like that there is no money bla bla because its gone into production whatever. With a CCJ however its difficult to go on with business that’s clear.
Anybody an idea what happens in this case? Can they operate further? Will they be forced into bankruptcy? Would also be interesting if Alpha as an UK registered company is obliged by law to have the assets on hand in UK etc. Because if not its going to be difficult to get the money back. Would a claim against Mr. Akram in person make any difference then?
Court fees can go over £1k (incl hearing etc.) if someone ordered a big viper or even more. If there is no money to gain that’s not going to be a funny thing.
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If Alpha-t are shipping in October, they should be able to show large supplies of cases, boards, power supplies, heat sinks, cables, packing boxes etc.
Show us some pictures Mohammud and show us a working Viper prototype mining on multipool.us with cgminer screen shots.
Exactly. The majority of components should be in. A production line should be up. Photos are easy. If they had anything they'd be showing it. I think so too. Unless they never intended to ship in July, September, at all? |
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The boards look legit; or at least, they look very much how I'd expect a board to look, given the power demands for the claimed ASICs; and is consistent with the previously shown PCB layout images, and Interestingly, rather than design their own voltage regulators, they have gone with pre-packaged modules (the big rectangular modules along the top). Probably sensible, given that building high power VRMs is a bit of a black art. That said, if their wafers are finished, then they must have taped-out when they said they were taping-out (the July update) as 2 months is the shortest realistic time frame from tape-out finishing to wafers going for processing. Based on other manufacturers experience, it takes about 1 1/2 weeks from wafer completion, to chips "in hand". From there, you should allow 4 weeks for assembly, testing, tuning, firmware tweaks, before shipping, and that's optimistic. KNC sent their titan wafers for cutting and encapsulation in early August. They shipped in last week of September, but early results have not been good - huge numbers of DOA miners, firmware incompatible with multipools, and loads of stability problems. thanks for giving that insight and timeframe. well than Id say it will slip into November  maybe then they are able to ship as power costs are too high for further mining batch 1 themselves lol... |
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Has anyone actually received that email from alpha? Or is it a fake e-mail? Because on the forums a bunch of purchasers have not received the Refund e-mail.
Yea, i also received dat email, aint fake. I have requested full refund back in July and after this i have filed my claim. I am not interested in partial refund, i only accept 100% refund. I been searchin through this thread for successful claims. Slipknot79, did you receive answer from court or any update on your case? thx |
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Oh and the „BATCH ONE CUSTOMER LOYALTY REWARD SCHEME” is quite useless i think. I paid for a scrypt asic to be delivered latest Q3 2014 and not being involved in some scheme hell knows what future brings 2020.
I mean its nice if they really do it in favor of the customers to cut their losses but it would be better to invest the resources in a working miner. From my point of view this could just be a delaying tactic to fend of the refund requests probably most if not all customers made.
And they’ll have to refund customers who want to, because if Q3 deadline is over a claim would be successful and that’s the end of alpha. Don’t know whats going to happen if they declare bankruptcy, cause the money has to be somewhere if not invested in chips and cases being worthless. If not they’ll end up in jail or have to hide in India the rest of their lives.
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Hope this isn't off topic but does anybody know anything about address 1C7ySAGbhrqdneDMC3sDSbxhoX3p7yHYUa
Blockchain.info says it originated out of Stockholm.
I have requested my refund from Alpha. I paid full (or rather foolishly) for a 50MH Viper.
Today I received 108 milliBits from that address. Please don't tell me that is the extent of my refund.
On the face of it seems unrelated to Alpha.
Did alpha respond to your refund request? You paid full so I guess alpha would offer you 30% refund of total payment. This would be done via bank transfer, but I never heard of anyone receiving a refund from them. Probably because no one takes a loss of 70% In your case I think you were just lucky getting some BTC out of nowhere. Same happened to me a month ago I'll take a loss of 70% when the only other option appears to be 100% No reply from Alpha regarding my request. You know, transactions are just kind of random when you're not expecting it and there isn't any message in the transaction or notification through other means. Seems like a problem that will only get worse as more people use crypto more often. You would take a loss of 70% 4 days before they breach their terms and a claim would probably be successful or at least being in a better position to opt for a higher refund? If money is already gone you wouldn’t get your 30% either… |
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Hope this isn't off topic but does anybody know anything about address 1C7ySAGbhrqdneDMC3sDSbxhoX3p7yHYUa
Blockchain.info says it originated out of Stockholm.
I have requested my refund from Alpha. I paid full (or rather foolishly) for a 50MH Viper.
Today I received 108 milliBits from that address. Please don't tell me that is the extent of my refund.
On the face of it seems unrelated to Alpha.
Did alpha respond to your refund request? You paid full so I guess alpha would offer you 30% refund of total payment. This would be done via bank transfer, but I never heard of anyone receiving a refund from them. Probably because no one takes a loss of 70% In your case I think you were just lucky getting some BTC out of nowhere. Same happened to me a month ago |
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If alpha misses Q3 delivery deadline someone with experience could set up a class action so that other claimants can join. Would that make sense? It might be more effective and cheaper as if everyone goes for it on its own (over moneyclaim etc.)
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From the Alpha-T forums : apparently some Alpha-T customers received this email today: Hello,
Whilst you are passed our refund period we are able to refund you your full 30% deposit as a gesture of goodwill. Please understand this has been no small undertaking and the vast majority of the funds have now gone into the production of these devices and to expect anything higher this late in the process is not realistic as the funds simply aren't there.
If you paid via a bank transfer/bitcoin please provide your bank details if you agree to this full and final settlement and if you paid via PayPal simply confirm you agree to this full and final settlement. For an international bank we will need an IBAN and/or an account number, a swift code and/or your banks address, your account name and address. Please try to provide all or as much of this information as possible in case we run into any issues to save us from having to email again to ask for it. For a UK bank we will only need your account number, sort code, your account name and address.
Regards,
Alpha Technology
I got the same mail. Paid 100% in Bitcoin. Why the hell did I do this??  But nevertheless it’s 7 days until they breach their terms. Then they can’t argue with their goodwill… |
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