... And more, like Brito, 24hralttrade, bram_vnl, mani, veertje, Fedoracoins ... (Collected in https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=843017.msg11608196#msg11608196) ...

Putting so much energy in bashing a single coin out of thousands of other altcoins makes you think. What could be the single reason why people are putting collective negative energy into anything anyway ??
This time comfortably wearing the mask of anonimity. Is is so easy to get away with shallow statements on this forum : Just ignore what has been said and troll some more. It is so much easier to destruct then to construct.

Of course they are just kids and of course their play is not fair. We join their playground however and I am afraid educated readers will have to read between the lines. Their challenges gave us plenty of opportunities  to present solid proof and reasons why they are wrong. I (and other e-Gulden enthausiasts I know around me) will be happy to elaborate on that

Are you talking about the scammers who created the coin or the people with the foundation premine ? How many coins do the scammers still have?

how many accounts do you have? nelis

You could not be more wrong, but you believe what you want man  

I will soon give you some real media attention, all you non buyers are so funny. Is your ego really so big that you have to let everybody know that you are missing the biggest opportunity of a lifetime?

Have you guys notified psychoticboy about this? I think he can use the bitcoin foundation to help Niels out. Just a suggestion. Good luck over there Niels. stay strong !

Funfact: did you know in 1 year time over 1 million EFL has been sold by litebit.eu/coin/efl/nl/ That is quite impressive if you ask me!

I have a confession to make.
During the distribution process to Dutch citizens last year, I pretended to be one.
For the scanned images of ID and utility bill requirement, I sent two images of The Rock (one shirtless, in the ring).
A couple of months later, I received my EFLs.
I've been feeling so guilty since. Today, I came across this thread and my guilt is gone after I learned the activities of the founding dev.
The moral of the story here is, shirtless images of The Rock is very similar to a Netherlands ID and utility bill.

So for the people they now every thing about scam and not scam....Tell me what coin i must buy so that i have no Risk!

Gr Zeero

Call it what you like. I think you are using coarse language. When you have no budget and need to pay for a new website, androidwallet etc. and a vast marketing campaign and multiple other services ... Anyway, the foundation prevented further damage to the premine, but selling activity before mid-may-2014 is the only explanation for dropping prices at that stage. You can "easily" see that a quantity equivalent to half of the premine went to the market till mid-may 2015 : http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/pair/efl/btc/bittrex/alltime. You don't call that a scam but a shame if the promise was fair distribution to all dutch citizens. Scam would be if you kept coins for yourself. That is not the case.

Fair distribution may even be utopic. NLG stopped theirs if I understood well, so what is the difference? Our intention is to continue it through Campains that suite fair distribution. Maybe there will be exceptions that will be clearly announced. The foundations is non-profit, our budget is zero, but the premine is sacret. Something like the Indian holy cow : You don't eat it even when you are starving.

You don't have to be ashamed to be superficial, but if you express yourself on Bitcointalk it becomes so visible. You'd better just watch.

Did it cross your mind that public keys with large balances could belong to multiple people and a miriad of small balances could belong to one. There is no way to tell what belongs to who. There are more then 10.000 public keys with positive balances in existance. 47 of hem contain more then 99.000 each, 9 of them are premine (https://chainz.cryptoid.info/efl/#!rich). There is no way to interconnect these public keys. You can trace their inputs and outputs but nothing more. Only if you are not concerned about privacy you will use a public key twice. There has been one public key (LXZKXgKU3vToPAoGgTsx83QcxWRjWHfyF6) that had a total influx of 4188250.98 That key belongs to bittrex and has been used in the early days by the original devs to collect bitcoins and pay their bills. That's not the way it should have been but they are reasonably accounted for and they are all on the market now or in other peoples wallets.
To clear any misunderstanding : the 750.000 leftover is part of the balance of the bittrex wallet. It has nothing to do with individual account-balances. Bittrex accounts are just database records outside the blockchain.

To put things in perspective further :
There is, as we speak 14.571.428 EFL in existance and 4.956.772 of that is secured premine. The premine balance is 100% accounted for on http://egulden.org/info/boekhouding/premine . The 38 "rich" public keys together contain 7.7M EFL. At least 6 of these belong to bittrex and are spread over multiple accounts, but again on bittrex there exist 7 100K+ accounts. For the rest nothing is certain. The 7 bittrex accounts could belong to 1 person or to 6 and a group of 10. whatever. You cannot look in other peoples wallets and that is a good thing in a free market otherwise it wouldn't be free.

In conclusion : 75% of EFL belongs to rich public keys, 38 in total. The rest belongs to keys that contain <100K, 10.000 in total.  
Thats probably better than the distribution of fiat money (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distribution_of_wealth). One thing is very close to certain : All  current EFL owners got there EFL's by mining, from the open market or through donations. That's definitely better than with fiat. So if justice is your real concern I suggest you go and look somewhere else.

lol

you're great man. after a week and a little bit of research you change your mind from "EFLisTheBest" to "EFLSucks".

Did you think that maybe that address is from Bittrex/Cryptsy....

OldManKid,  You respond to a quote that has no relevance to your response, ...
Your reasoning seems interesting but it has too much speculation and errors in it. I do reply this time but just to demonstrate why it will be the last time :
Your pumping notion is suggestive. As long as you don't work for Bittrex and it wasn't you then you know nothing.
Multipool pressure is real but it cannot be controlled by solutions Guldencoin choses to implement. (That is more than an opinion)
EFL only has had one reward halving; We make our own anouncements thank you.
4000 worth then is 8000 worth now, but only because the bitcoin price halved.
EFL difficulty is 40 not 30 and block times are 2 minutes (not one) and very exact !
EFL is not the same as Bitcoin and I suppose Miners do care about electricity. Did it cross your mind that they also might believe in EFL ? Not the technical foundation which is 99,9 % Satoshi, as are all Altcoins, but the way to go.

Sorry to disturb you once more about this issue, that does matter to me. Allthough it is slightly out of scope, you did challenge me. If you promise people 1000 NLG each 2,5 minute (150 sec), when you anounce it on github and when you point to a C-Constant that confirms that once upon a time it was your target, but when the outcome is 600 NLG each 2,5 minute during the last two months than there is something wrong. You relieve the market of some 7 Milion NLG each month and you deprive this from your miners. Whatever is the cause, you should be open about the facts.

Why don't you reply to an honest question old-man and keep throwing dirt at pro crypto activity, smashing your own windows ??
Tell us what is your purpose ?
If you would just demonstrate  e-Gulden is a scam than you would have a point, but you can't. It is plain math that it isn't. You are invited to e-gulden.org to witness the bookkeeping. Every premine satoshi is accounted for and visible for everyone.
Have you met or discussed with the foundation, or are you just a big stakeholder of Guldencoin that hates competition ?
Have you read the mission of the e-Gulden community ? Maybe you can't if you don't read Dutch. That is one of the many reasons why country coins meet a purpose : They belong to a community. Dutch is their language. Bitcoin is just an Altcoin, though sacret, thats true.

By the way, what is your contribution to cryptocurrency? All of your posts concern e-Gulden. Makes me think Old-man is a scam setup for only one purpose....

The ones who bought EFL from an anonymous dev without any development plan where stupid, the ones not buying EFL backed by a foundation and real people who are not affraid to show their faces are also stupid. It is all about how that name you mentioned is actually a contract with the Vatican that is against all form of human rights and deviding the freedom we obtain by getting rid of this so called "fact", but keep on putting yourself on the first place, it suits the community you are representing.

is the coin related to Guldencoin in any way or is it trying to use a set up infrastructure of Guldencoin?