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1  Economy / Speculation / Re: why the bitcoin price is going down ? on: October 04, 2014, 06:20:45 PM
no one wants / needs bitcoin, you have been lied by bulltrolls and permabulls

drop your false hope and cut losses now! or you will lose everything during the final capitulation!
2  Economy / Speculation / Re: URGENT, Bitcoin is on the verge of collapse !!! on: October 04, 2014, 06:00:21 PM
Where is the bottom, where is the bottom
Oh gawd, make it stop, please for fcuk sake, make it stop

bitcoin is going to nowhere but down to the final capitulation, it will be lower and lower and hit back to where it came from $0.00001

sell now to cut losses or lose everything
3  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 04, 2014, 05:54:21 PM
dumper not done yet Smiley

since $1200 to $0.0001
4  Economy / Speculation / Re: im out. on: October 04, 2014, 05:33:26 PM
Nope. Yawn. Hodling cause I have been through this before 4x.

this time its difference. adoption has occurred, good news has occurred... and it has reversal effect.  i forgot what they call it in economics.  

Price down, fundamentals strong ... in economics, they call that a "buying opportunity"

Price is down from what it was but it's still way higher than it should be.

true, that's why bitcoin is going to drop lower and lower then the final capitulation!

bitcoin will drop back to where it came from at $0.01 or $0.0001 then stay around there for a while and get out off sight slowly and eventully die


Yep... I'm out of fiat too, all in BTC now.
Funny how this dead technology works so well still Smiley

Depends on what you mean by "works."  Certainly not as a store of value Undecided

works = get poor quick
5  Economy / Speculation / Re: Optimism is your enemy on: October 04, 2014, 05:19:22 PM
Agree, permabulls and bulltrolls should be banned, they are still fooling people to buy their bags, Be Careful !

ie:
Right. The fundamentals have not changed, that's what falllling and his alt accounts don't understand. Has the protocol been broken? Noo, sir.

This is amazing opportunity to get cheap coins. All you do now is hold and be rich man in a few short years Cheesy
6  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 04, 2014, 05:10:30 PM
HAHAHA LOOK AT THE ASK SIDE THO!!

600 coins to 380, are u fucking kidding me Huh Cool

sorry bitcoin is not going to $380 or what so ever, the only way is down lower and lower, drop your false hope now to cut losses or lose everything!
7  Economy / Speculation / Re: Flash Crash, What will it look like? on: October 04, 2014, 05:04:11 PM





Is that the 2011 boom/bust (after which the price climbed 133x in the subsequent cycle)?

Or is that the April 2013 boom/bust (after which the price climbed 24x in the subsequent cycle)?

Could also be the most recent boom/bust. They all look the same.


Anyways, that is indeed a nice chart to describe each individual boom/bust cycle since 2010. After every time, thusfar, price has subsequently jumped at least an order of magnitude. I assume your point was to imply the correlation of a localized price pattern that looks like that chart, and subsequent 1000% price gains. Right?

we are down to the All time low for one year now and will hit ATL for two years soon, that's the answer
8  Economy / Speculation / Re: Falllling is right again, Bitcoin will continue the downtrend on: October 04, 2014, 04:56:18 PM
Falllling has been proved to be right for just so many times .. ever listened?
9  Economy / Speculation / Re: Flash Crash, What will it look like? on: October 04, 2014, 04:49:18 PM
Will there be some tipping point where Bitcoin flash crashes? (I feel like somewhere around 200$)

You have been warned by falllling since $680, should have listened!
Why bag holders are still dumping their bags in the same time they promised you an get rich quick uptrend dream? because bulls are LYING

You should start dumping too before it's too late! let's see what "good" news have we got so far:

Old:
goxed,no one with a college degree will invest any serious sums into bitcoin after MTGOX fiasco, The market is currently only a playground for gamblers and fanatics
51% pool (easy came easy gone easy return)
crackers and governments and shit having 1200k coins(mtgox 200k, Ross Ulbricht 140k, crackers: 850k)
no new money
governments warning and banning
many scam IPOs including Ethereum and others
everyone is selling / spending
Dell / Expedia / Newegg / House dealer / etc are selling in real time


New:
Winklevoss ETF will actually be shot down
GABI is already priced in but it turned out to short on bitcoin or it has failed to raise fund ($200 million is just fake)
Dubai exchange won't create any thing new
more PayPal or whatever businesses "accept" bitcoin (immediately dump it on exchanges via market sells), the more it will crash. It will crash hard because people will only use the new integration to dump all of their BTC holdings fast


So now you can see no one is getting in bitcoin and early adopters can't wait to find more new ways to cash your money out
(the fund you invested in bitcoin are vanishing because who fooling you to buy in are taking your money away via Exchanger/Payment Service/All those "good" news bitcoin accepting companies etc, same as a ponzi pyramid scheme)

what's coming are more dumps and will lead bitcoin to it's final capitulation, so do NOT buy in any fake recovers or you will lose your money, if you already have bitcoin bags then cut looses before it goes back to $0.01!

remember few weeks ago the dead cat bounce reached $530? today people are happy even without breaking $400, this time drop back to $300 can be expected

You have been warned since $680 !
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=758244 $476
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=713671 $510
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=698224 $580
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=665200 $590
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=650517 $600
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=649261 $620






10  Economy / Speculation / Re: im out. on: October 04, 2014, 04:42:42 PM
Nope. Yawn. Hodling cause I have been through this before 4x.


What if this time is different and bitcoin is dying for sure?

then he will be the last bag holder and GAME OVER, all his money gone to some one dumped before he does Smiley

Good call! Once Manbearpigwhale gets the weak hands to sell, we will be going to the moon on our rock ship!

I have never seen such a low sentiment, this means a reversal is coming. And the further we fall, the quicker the slingshot back up will be (this was articulated by Risto)

As long as you keep holding, you can't lose. you only lose when you sell for worthless paper money.

You only lose when you sell for less than you paid.

Nobody has ever lost money by holding.



It is incredible how many people on this forum have convinced themselves that this is the case.

Fundamentally, the value of the assets we hold is the amount of utility they can provide, in terms of consumption goods.
Consumer price inflation measures the buying power of fiat.
The current BTC/USD price, adjusted for consumer price inflation (which is tiny compared to BTC/USD volatility), tells you the buying power of BTC.
That buying power has crashed.
You definitely have made a loss, even if you haven't actually sold.

11  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 04, 2014, 04:34:16 PM
You have been warned by falllling since $680 !
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=758244 $476
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=713671 $510
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=698224 $580
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=665200 $590
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=650517 $600
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=649261 $620








12  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will Bitcoin see $299 or below by 10/31/14? on: October 04, 2014, 03:56:31 PM
We will see < $240 end of next week.

So a universal bearish opinion. The crowd is always right after all.

glad to see more and more people know about the incoming bitcoin final capitulation
13  Economy / Speculation / Re: You heard it hear 1st on: October 04, 2014, 03:47:24 PM
I would say 250-280 .Huge support is there, as traders will have bids lined up in this area. It may bounce here at $400

What reasons might there be for a bounce?

none, he just said it as a permabull hoping to get rich quick
14  Economy / Speculation / Re: Troll theory on: October 04, 2014, 03:30:29 PM
So that's my only request: if a post is really just pure non-informative "teasing", and someone reports it, I'd ask you to consider deleting it even if there are already a few responses.
I would add to this, delete any responses to it too. Otherwise the spamming will just intensify to at least get some trolling through. And we really don't want to encourage troll feeding.

same to those permabull topics which encourage people to buy, also should delete all those topics said about "to da moon or time to bounce up stuffs" because they have all been proved wrong and bulltrolls
15  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why didn't you just listen to igorr, falling, Sevvero? Would have MADE money. on: October 04, 2014, 03:05:53 PM
NUMEROUS times you were told ACCURATELY what will happen.

You were told about drop to $400, $350, you were told ALL OF IT.

Look where the price is now: $360 and falling quickly, PRECISELY as told.

How do you feel being an idiot bag holder now and laughing stock of your family?

Why didn't you sell and short? Too greedy, too stupid?

And you know what they got for being right about their predictions, every time? Banned!

This place is so far gone, they're living in 2013 still. Everyone is so stuck on the "me too!" mentality, that they simply refuse to acknowledge that the market has changed since then.

Did they really get banned by only making negative predictions about Bitcoin? this doesn't talk very well about this forum.. i dont like that cult-like mentality.

ask Moderator: Blitz­ to free them and ban bulltrolls + permabulls
16  Economy / Speculation / Re: Troll theory on: October 04, 2014, 02:39:18 PM
Great point oda. I miss TERA. I've also been posting less and less (aside from the Bitfinex Credit Bubble thread perhaps), perhaps that is part of the reason why. It makes sense that when people insult you for making reasoned bearish posts that the reaction to that is thoughtless troll posts, insulting back.

I wasn't here in 2011 but I am curious whether a similar effect was observed then.
It wasn't any different, only the moderation was worse (I think it was entirely unmoderated even).

PS: I do get to the trolls/spammers eventually, but some people here keep bumping and responding to them. Don't feed them, thanks.

Quick note on moderation:

I wanna go on record that I think you're doing a fine job. Not an easy balance to find - during a bull run, the bears complain, during a bear market, the bulls want all bearish spam removed.

One thing I believe could be better: Posts should never be removed /just/ because they're ultra-bullish or bearish. But there's a large number of posts made (prime example: fallling and his alts) that are entirely *contentless*. Nothing but rubbing it in. Similar on a bull run, with posts that don't even contain any new info or argument, basically just consisting of "told you so" in so many words.

The problem is, people respond to those posts, probably out of the honest desire not to let the trolls go uncontested. Not the smart thing to do, but that's human nature. I noticed that if I (and others, I'm sure) report those posts, you don't delete them, probably because they already have gathered some responses.

So that's my only request: if a post is really just pure non-informative "teasing", and someone reports it, I'd ask you to consider deleting it even if there are already a few responses.

Any chance that made any sense to you? Cheesy

you are lying about fallling's post, here is just one part of his posts which is not contentless at all but deleted just beacause permabulls or bulltrolls ask for it:

Quote
You should start dumping too before it's too late! let's see what "good" news have we got so far:

Old:
goxed,no one with a college degree will invest any serious sums into bitcoin after MTGOX fiasco, The market is currently only a playground for gamblers and fanatics
51% pool (easy came easy gone easy return)
crackers and governments and shit having 1200k coins(mtgox 200k, Ross Ulbricht 140k, crackers: 850k)
no new money
governments warning and banning
many scam IPOs including Ethereum and others
everyone is selling / spending
Dell / Expedia / Newegg / House dealer / etc are selling in real time


New:
Winklevoss ETF will actually be shot down
GABI is already priced in but it turned out to short on bitcoin or it has failed to raise fund ($200 million is just fake)
Dubai exchange won't create any thing new
more PayPal or whatever businesses "accept" bitcoin (immediately dump it on exchanges via market sells), the more it will crash. It will crash hard because people will only use the new integration to dump all of their BTC holdings fast


So now you can see no one is getting in bitcoin and early adopters can't wait to find more new ways to cash your money out
(the fund you invested in bitcoin are vanishing because who fooling you to buy in are taking your money away via Exchanger/Payment Service/All those "good" news bitcoin accepting companies etc, same as a ponzi pyramid scheme)

what's coming are more dumps and will lead bitcoin to it's final capitulation, so do NOT buy in any fake recovers or you will lose your money, if you already have bitcoin bags then cut looses before it goes back to $0.01!

remember few weeks ago the dead cat bounce reached $530? today people are happy even without breaking $400, this time drop back to $300 can be expected

You have been warned since $680 !
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=758244 $476
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=713671 $510
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=698224 $580
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=665200 $590
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=650517 $600
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=649261 $620








let me get this straight you are just trying to fool Blitz­ to get worse on his jobs, you are also trying to cover the bearish market's true situation, mentioned couple "bulls are not ok too" won't make you looks like a fair person, if you want to be a permabull at least admit it
17  Economy / Speculation / Blitz­, Free falllling and ban permabulls and bulltrolls on: October 04, 2014, 02:13:17 PM
falllling's predictions have all been proved to be right all the time, now Blitz­ should

1: return the money you got paid from permabulls and bulltrolls
or
2: wake up from the fake hope made up by permabulls and bulltrolls

Free falllling, let him speak freely again! Ban permabulls and bulltrolls, including fonsie / dropt / maker88 / Sevvero / inca / JimboToronto / and other bull scammers



The bulls on this forum are 100x worse than fallling.  They are as annoying as an itch in the anus.  They are still fiending for that MTGOX induced previous bubbles.  Guess what MTGOX is gone.  no one is going to be handing you money anymore.  I know it sucks, i wish btc hits $3k tomorrow.  But it's just not going to happen any time soon within the next decade.

here check the money trail if you don't believe me:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=21456.msg9036502#msg9036502

posted in 2011...

I remember reading posts like "Hold on to your bitcoins coz it will shoot back up to $600-1k" and when i try to contradict them they say troll, fck you, go kill yourself, and etc. I wonder where are those people now, I hope they didn't get burned holding to their coins.
18  Economy / Speculation / Re: Falllling is right again, Bitcoin will continue the downtrend on: October 04, 2014, 09:32:58 AM
hmm falling may have been right xD as it seems atm
A broken clock is right twice a day.  Constantly shout it will go down, and eventually you will shout just before a downtrend

Falllling has been proved to be right ALL the time, be my guest to continue acting like a fool troll
19  Economy / Speculation / Re: and we are officially off to test the previous high at around $270 on: October 04, 2014, 08:50:28 AM
wow this forum has become pessimistic

last time i was here was 6 months ago or more maybe and then it was bitcoin to the moon, buy now before the next super spike etc

now more than half the posts are bitcoin sucks


you mean many people are complaining about the price crash? that's because bitcoin is going to the final capitulation and more and more people can see the fact now
20  Economy / Speculation / Re: Torn between two lovers, Honest opinion please. on: October 04, 2014, 08:43:19 AM
Hi guys,

I have sold a decent amount of Bitcoins at $400 to buy back at $350. Now the time is here and I am thinking of waiting a little bit longer. The weekend is nigh, But it might be the last weekend before the rend upward /:.

I realize that currently if I consider my initial decision, That I am moved by greed and not rationale. But if I buy this week and it keeps on down-trending for 3-4 weeks, I consider it a loss, personally.

What do you guys think? $350+ in 3-4 weeks? a pure speculative question either you want to share your rationale with us or not.


p.s. $560k people and $100 people are just trolls and not invited in this gentlemen conversation, thank you.

If you don't buy now you risk missing the boat.... bitlicence coming..

what boat? the Titanic?
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