I have 5 btc avail at 4%
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I am still looking for people. Over 20k usd stable coin available as collateral
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https://bustadice.com/player/Hunterhis 2nd 'bigger' bet is so lucky. and then risking everything you earned on the next risky bet doesnt look a thing most people would do. is there a way server seed could have been compromised. is this really 100% for sure just luck?
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I am sure none of the "sane" headed lenders of this forum would lend even a single satoshi to this freak. OP has a history of several shady attempts which can be found on their trust page. Better check them out and then let them banter on. Leaving this here in case some over-enthusiastic lender ends up sending them money, even if the probability of that is way below 0.01%, since I have seen how people have got scammed here.  I have never scammed anyone and this loan will be fully computerized at all times. Otherwise I agree to a margin call at 110% |
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I believe what you describe is true for anytime collateral is used for a loan. Thus exorbitant rates and short terms around here. The OP wants no risk all reward. If the OP wants to hold the bitcoin, the lender can add a clause to the Note that automatically terminates the loan if the value of the owed bitcoin exceeds the value of the stablecoin for an agreed upon length of time, and no additional stablecoin is deposited to the lender, or lender's behalf if using a middleman.
Basically a margin call. Might work but I don't think the OP would agree to that. yes. Would agree to that. Makes complete sense to me. Working with someone on getting this loan going for a bit higher interest rate. Is someone is willing to do it for 2% let me know |
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interest : 2% a year
You can try to borrow on whatever terms are acceptable to you, but I think the interest you are offering is too low. If someone was willing to lend at 2%/year, they might go to Bankrate CD rates, and see FDIC insured banks offering 2.80% APY for a one year CD, and the lender would have virtually zero counter-party risk. It is up to individual traders to price their own risk, but I would price in something more than a 2% discount for having to account for the risk of whoever I am dealing with running away with my money. I give 2% on bitcoin risk free since I fully collaterize at all times. If we ever get close escrow buys bitcoins with my money and sends them to you. Banks give interest in usd. It's a difference. I am open to any offers but no crazy interest rates
I am looking to borrow 1-20 BTC. Collateral will be kept above 110% at all times.
amount : 1 - 20 BTC
duration : can be discussed, but at least 6 months
interest : 2% a year
And who will keep the collateral? You?? I suggest adding a statement that you are comfortable with escrow if you are serious about this otherwise it will also end up like a dead thread. thought that was pretty obvious, but mentioned it just in case. Thanks Can you also add/mention what is your stable coin collateral? I don't see any... right now have usd on the bank. Thinking of usdc but open to other alternatives in case the lender requests that. |
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I am looking to borrow 1-20 BTC. Collateral will be kept above 110% at all times.
amount : 1 - 20 BTC
duration : can be discussed, but at least 6 months
interest : 2% a year
And who will keep the collateral? You?? I suggest adding a statement that you are comfortable with escrow if you are serious about this otherwise it will also end up like a dead thread. thought that was pretty obvious, but mentioned it just in case. Thanks |
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I am looking to borrow 1-20 BTC. Collateral will be kept above 110% at all times.
Comfortable with escrow
amount : 1 - 20 BTC
duration : can be discussed, but at least 6 months
interest : 2% a year
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Loan Amount: up to 20 btc
Loan Repayment Amount: 102% of loan
Loan Repayment Date: 1 year from loan start date
Collateral: yes, 150k usdt, can be adjusted during the year to keep collateral always far above 110%
Bitcoin Address: for later, let's first work on a deal
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Convert your cash into a stablecoin, then request a loan on a platform like NEXO or BitBond.
Note that you'll get completely rekt on the interest rate though, you'll probably get better offers from lenders here, many of which can easily be trusted with $150k.
I just checked NEXO, not possible to borrow btc there and bitbond is only for businesses? to make it clear, i want to borrow 20btc and owe someone 20 btc. if prices change either i will need to put it or get back some usd or btc. i am short on btc, i just am in need of some btc for an investment what would be the best way to set up a loan with bitcointalk? i am shocked you recommend this, since this is quite a sum of money... would like to have it rebalanced regularly based on the bitcoin rate. Currently 150k in stocks, but could have it in cash tomorrow but would like to keep it in stocks. i assume i could have someone else doing this investment so my usd arent just becoming worthless* but that makes all of it quite a bit harder *this loan might be for over 5 years no options without collateral correct? have a good creditscore, income, can proof identity now i am thinking of buying some btc and taking a short position to limit my risk, just dont know where here is an option (against someone else e.g. both me and another person on here thats long on bitcoin send e.g. 25k usd to an escrow, if bitcoin reaches 4000 first i get 50000, if bitcoin reaches 6000 first the other party gets the 50000 usd) and from time to time make more deals like this... or somewhere else, issue is that i dont want to pay taxes, and these options always seems to bring me to sites like bitfinex etc. i already lost 80k usd there when their coins got stolen and i sold my bfx tokens, dont feel like touching them again
I am not sure if you have heard of google. It is this website that lets you search the internet based on keywords. I searched "borrow against bitcoin" and the first three non-ad results were: https://saltlending.com/https://coinloan.io/https://lendabit.com/I have not done any kind of due diligence on any of the above companies. You will need to research any company you decide to use before entrusting them with your money. I am also still confused why you would not just use USD, or even DAI to purchase your investment. i googled and cant find anything i dont want to borrow against bitcoin, i want to borrow bitcoin against usd. which isnt common |
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I'm somewhat confused. Tell me if I have this correct. You want to borrow BTC for long-term and you have more than enough USD to outright buy the BTC which you are offering as collateral?
I don't know about anybody else, but I would happily take USD as collateral, tie the loan to BTC and once the loan is done you repay the BTC and get your cash back. Granted, I am not working with the kind of money you're looking to play with. I'm just confused how you would have a hard time finding some company or individual to do this. There's quite literally no risk, if collateral is received before filling the loan. Am I missing something?
Tying loans to USD is normally where lenders jump ship, and so maybe using that as collateral essentially does the same thing and I'm just to exhausted to do logic.
Correct. So I am interested in borrowing bitcoin for an investment but I am bearish on bitcoin, so I dont want to buy them although I could. Any companies that do that? Or any safe way to do this? I dont feel I could trust no matter which person on here with this much cash as collateral. Fyi. I am in the US |
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Looking to borrow about 20 BTC for a year. I do have 150k usd cash as collateral. I find a lot of websites that let you borrow cash for btc collateral but I am looking for the exact opposite. Does anyone know of any website that offers this service ? Have been thinking of buying 20 BTC and in the mean time shorting 20 BTC somewhere or is there a better way?
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to try it out I just paid .5 btc in dilute fees, total onsite and offsite bankroll (and my bankroll) increased by my investment amount excluding the fees (exactly till .001 btc correct), where did my fees go if they didn't go to the investors?
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2 questions:
what's the point of on site VS off site
if you want to invest 3 BTC, why would you put 3 BTC in the on site VS 1 BTC in the on site and 2 BTC in the off site? you qre going to hqve the exact same earnings, with more risk, is there anything else different?
result of this: all the big/smart guys leverage max, if there is 1000 BTC in the on site, there is 2000 offsite and with the investment above you own .1%
if offsite didnt exist you would still own .1%. It complicates stuff but dont see any benefit. Except that the actual dilute fee becomes 6 instead of 2% (because everyone pretends to invest 3 times as much and pays 2% fee on 200% non-existing btc).
who is that 2 (or 6 however you see it) % fee going? distributed according to investors' onsite or total (on/off)site investment?
i like the site, but a lot of things are never mentioned clearly and that makes it kinda suspicious to me.
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I have > 4000 usd in Amazon gift card balance that I am selling. I can order things for you at a 10% discount if you can pay by bitcoin. Willing to work with am escrow
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DISCOUNT:
0-250 USD: 2%
250.01-1000 USD: 5%
1000.01 USD and up: 8%
(discount accumulates PER ADDRESS, eg. if you buy 250 USD of good now and 250 USD of goods tomorrow shipped to the same address the 2nd order will get a 5% discount)
I accept bitcoin, ether and bitcoin cash, for other cryptocurrencies please send me a message.
I prefer working with an escrow
nobody interested? I can give 10% off for the first person still 1000 usd in gift cards available to order for today |
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DISCOUNT:
0-250 USD: 2%
250.01-1000 USD: 5%
1000.01 USD and up: 8%
(discount accumulates PER ADDRESS, eg. if you buy 250 USD of good now and 250 USD of goods tomorrow shipped to the same address the 2nd order will get a 5% discount)
I accept bitcoin, ether and bitcoin cash, for other cryptocurrencies please send me a message.
I prefer working with an escrow
nobody interested? I can give 10% off for the first person |
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DISCOUNT:
0-250 USD: 2%
250.01-1000 USD: 5%
1000.01 USD and up: 8%
(discount accumulates PER ADDRESS, eg. if you buy 250 USD of good now and 250 USD of goods tomorrow shipped to the same address the 2nd order will get a 5% discount)
I accept bitcoin, ether and bitcoin cash, for other cryptocurrencies please send me a message.
I prefer working with as escrow
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Nobody interested ?
Tecshare is going to buy as good as my whole amazon balance. I shipped my first item out today. If someone else is interested dont wait. still some gift cards left. Let me know when interested |
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Nobody interested ?
Tecshare is going to buy as good as my whole amazon balance. I shipped my first item out today. If someone else is interested dont wait. |
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