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1  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Child kidnapping by the Norwegian State on: February 19, 2015, 03:55:19 PM
News from Lithuania, few pretty angry MPs
http://en.delfi.lt/lithuania/politics/group-of-mps-want-lithuanian-government-to-pick-a-fight-with-norway-over-childrens-welfare.d?id=67207776
2  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Child kidnapping by the Norwegian State on: February 18, 2015, 07:26:46 PM
"This home therapist was a 60-year-old woman, unmarried with no children. She had no kind of education for a profession as "home therapist"

At my second grade I had a teacher, 60+, unmarried and childless. I do not remember her fondly.
The only people, who know precisely how to raise a child are people, who do not have any.
3  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Child kidnapping by the Norwegian State on: February 18, 2015, 07:08:36 PM
 
 
Back to the news: It seems that there is a firm - or an organisation - which specialises in arranging a kind of "package tour" to Prague for Norwegian school kids.


This is the whole Scandinavia + the UK problem. Few days ago Danish students demolished a Prague hotel.
I think that many people in the Scandinavia have the same attitude to alcohol as a child of an alcoholic (you are or an abstinent or an alcoholic) + plus Norway is a part of the vodka belt, because if you look at the consumption per capita it is pretty low in Norway.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_alcohol_consumption_per_capita
4  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Child kidnapping by the Norwegian State on: February 18, 2015, 06:53:14 PM
 

Wonderful - where ever did you find it? There are several formulations there which are so rightly critical of abuses going on that I can hardly believe my eyes. I have only skimmed through it, but I must study it more closely. (Hmm, the reporter is Russian, Nemo - a feather in Russia's cap too!)

  

I am a professional  (I am paid, you can say overpaid,  for finding information).
I was digging information for reaction of the Council of Europe, because Norway is not an EU member, so this is a place to complain.
Additionally there was the case when CPC authority questioned this small girl for four hours to forced her to say that her father is a pedo and she won her case against Norway.

This is not only Norway.  The cases from the UK are also bad.

This case had a happy end
http://www.maminka.cz/clanek/jana-v-norsku-mi-malem-sebrali-helenku

Jana is a young Czech  woman, she has met a bloke from Norway in Prague, she has married him and moved to Norway. A daughter was born and her family was visiting. The went for a walk with the pram. it was cold, they entered a café  and ordered a grog (she was not breastfeeding any more). The waitress look funny, after some time she had a discussion with an another customer. They called somebody After 15 min police arrived with a CPC, everybody ended in the local police station. CPC wanted to take the baby.  What saved her was that her husband was from Norway and he is a physician. When he arrived everybody changed tune, she was offered a place to change nappies....
5  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Child kidnapping by the Norwegian State on: February 14, 2015, 04:56:55 PM
The mother of the boys  is prohibited to take the pictures of boys and to post the old ones on internet.
The foster parents posted the pictures on Facebook
http://www.blesk.cz/clanek/zpravy-udalosti/302415/kauza-odebranych-ceskych-deti-v-norsku-pestouni-se-kluky-chlubi-na-facebooku-matce-to-bylo-zakazane.html

The Lithuanian case
http://en.delfi.lt/lithuania/society/norways-ambassador-to-lithuania-speaks-out-on-child-custody-controversy-involving-norwegian-child-services.d?id=67143444
http://en.delfi.lt/lithuania/foreign-affairs/lithuanian-foreig-minister-and-norwegian-ambassador-discuss-childrens-rights-protection.d?id=67106628
http://en.delfi.lt/lithuania/society/polish-investigator-who-kidnaps-lithuanian-children-from-norways-child-services-we-did-things-we-cannot-talk-about.d?id=67100792
6  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Child kidnapping by the Norwegian State on: February 14, 2015, 04:39:16 PM
it's impressive what the open internet can do to freedom of expression and the issues that can be discuss freely by anyone wishing to take part in them, however you have to understand and accept that the same people that do that to children have all interest in you not having those discussion, exposing the wideness of the scandals. I think you should take the opportunity to use decentralized system of communication as back up, the "controllers" seem to be moving to close such open places with their new "regulations", if they can kidnap children, what can they do with the inter web...  Cool. 0trust.  Cheesy.

The CPS in Norway are not happy. They complained that one of the Michalák boys  was able to find information about his case on internet. And this is bad.

I suppose if the foster parents are telling him, that his mother does not love him...and he can find different information...it is "bad".
7  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Child kidnapping by the Norwegian State on: February 14, 2015, 12:35:50 PM
Some numbers from the council of Europe.
http://website-pace.net/documents/10643/1127812/EDOC_Social+services+in+Europe.pdf/dc06054e-2051-49f5-bfbd-31c9c0144a32

of of the Uk cases
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2516270/Please-dont-baby-Agony-mother-baby-girl-adoption-secret-court-judge-forced-caesarean.html
8  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Child kidnapping by the Norwegian State on: February 13, 2015, 07:32:55 PM


A thought about CPS in the Southern Europe. I don't see many (any) complaints about it. Having lived in Spain and travelled around Italy, I can say that family structure and  bonds there is very close to those of Russians and Eastern Europeans. A Spanish family as a whole would fight tooth and nail if a child is even slightly inconvenienced, independent of how distant a relative that child is.

I wonder if it's only my impression or if it is actually better to move South to avoid CPS harassment that surfaces in Scandinavia, Finland, GB, Holland, Germany, Switzerland..?

I think that Germany has also problems. The Scandinavia, the Netherlands and the Britain have problems, without doubts.

66 Czechs children - in the UK
http://www.tyden.cz/rubriky/domaci/cechum-berou-v-cizine-deti-kauzu-cesky-v-norsku-resi-evropa_290513.html#.VN5WCqNwZgY

a child from Slovakia plaid with dolls in school, CPS we called
an another mother was told that if she moves back to Slovakia, she will keep one child
Ivana Boorova case, you are in hospital, do you not want to see your child - when her husband came with the child, the child was taken by CPS. The mother was told that she will go to prison for 3 years, if she goes public.
http://www.invarena.cz/?p=9433

the children were to slim
http://sonasvobodova.blog.idnes.cz/c/424560/Hubenym-Slovakum-vzala-socialka-v-Britanii-jejich-hubene-deti.html

The friend of mine had problems in the Netherlands, she got her child back, but she is not very young, she is very intelligent and she has very well paid job.
I do not know, what caused her problem. The father of the chid?

CPS had problem that:
a) she works (she has a part time job)
b) the child is in a wrong school (not a Dutch school, but neither parent is a Dutch, so they were discriminated against in school)
c) I love this one - the mother has too many books.

If you want Czech numbers (2011)
7000 children above 3 years in institutional care (1/3 youth detention centres)
3000 children younger that 3 years in care - from them (during year 2011) - 11 adopted against parents wishes.
10000 in foster care or guardianship - 2/3 of guardians own family.


9  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Child kidnapping by the Norwegian State on: February 13, 2015, 07:22:03 PM
Protest of EMP P. Mach in the EU parliament (in Czech), he hold a paper with names of three mothers (from Lithuania, the Czech republic and Sweden)of kidnapped children and speaks about the fact, that some states are kidnapping children.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdqhZ-Fx60g

Response of the Norwegian minister (in English)
https://www.sojdrova.cz/zpravy/2015/02/odpoved-norskeho-ministerstva-po-vice-nez-trech-mesicich-a-bez-konkretnich-navrhu

a blog
http://motls.blogspot.nl/2015/01/norways-theft-of-two-czech-boys-is.html

X mass presents  for Michalák boys
http://euportal.parlamentnilisty.cz/PrintArticle/13185-ministryne-marksova-tominova-opet-nezklamala-kasle-na-ochranu-ceskych-deti-pred-tyranim.aspx

a Czech joke
http://g.cz/adoptuj-si-sveho-nora
Adopt your Norwegian child.
During school holidays are many Norwegian teenagers coming to Prague to get drunk, it means that their biological parents do something wrong.
So we propose:
a) to hunt them down
b) get them to a Czech family for re-education, they can see their parents twice a year, the only allowed language will be Czech
c) everybody(CPS, parents, the Norwegian government) must understand that it is in the interest of the children, they must be protected from biological parents, they must be given to families with positive attitude to alcohol and learn that it is better to drink a small amount every day than to drink the same amount of alcohol  once a week.



a) The prohibition of the Ukrainian language by Peter is a myth.

b)Czechia made a comparatively peaceful transition, and even during the Soviet rule, Czechia had an inflow of capital and industrialisation from Soviet Union during the post-war reconstruction. I remember visiting Pague for the first time in 1986, when it at all became possible to travel abroad. I was blown away by how well-off Czechs were, at the riches of the "abroad".



a) Thanks for the correction. Taken from Wikipedia, I am afraid. Not a fan of Russian history, to depressive.
b) Not to get off the topic to much. It is more complex. I was in Moscow in 1986. I agree that the living standards were very different. I agree that 1990s were not economically such a disaster as in Russia, although the Czech economic transformation is a disaster in comparison with the rest "returned Europe" (the worse results apart Hungary and Croatia).
But it is more subtle than that. After WWI the living standard of the Czech lands was higher than in Austria. It was an industrial base of the whole Empire. School was obligatory since the second half of 18.the century.   After WWII the Czech living standard got up a bit, but at the end (1989) it ended at 1/3 of the Austrian one.  If you live in a tiny country, you see in the neighbour's plate, so Czechs were not satisfied. After WWI Russia was still peasant and illiterate. Communist were not seen in Russia as 100% an economic disaster. But it was not my point.  The Czech land were richer than Russia, true, but the moral marasmus was much worse and destructive in the Czech lands than in Slovakia or in Russia. Russians were not satisfied with many things, but they identified with the system (there were also more isolated = having less information), the self expression value are not so strong in Russia, so they were not forced to lie everyday in such degree as Czechs. Plus one of consequences of 1968 was not only an another emigration wave, but also the fact that 10% of population was kicked out of job(an the peoples in question were not cleaning ladies = destruction of cultural capital).  In the second half of 1980s Russia was more free than Czechoslovakia.



10  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Child kidnapping by the Norwegian State on: February 10, 2015, 05:43:37 PM
 

The president has been interviewed by the Czech media house Blesk. He says the foster places where the boys have been put resemble the Lebernsborn program. The boys are being de-nationalised (away from Czech) and being raised to become young Norwegians.

  

I have seen it, but I would correct the information. It was only reprinted in Blesk ( Blesk is not a serious newspaper).

It is exactly what I said. This is not going away. Czechs are not Russians.

a) It is true that the Russian family is different. Russia is eastwards from the Hajnal line and the Russian family was form by slash and burn agriculture. You can see it very easily if you open Russians fairly tales. A father and a mother and tree sons, all of them with wives living under one roof. You will not find this in Grimm's fairy tales.  Czech families were often forced to adopt Russian model under the communist, but the Czech family is an European family, that is, it is a product of a manorial system of land ownership. It is a nuclear and neolocal family, and Czechs returned after the fall of the communism  to this model very swiftly. But there is difference between the Scandinavia, the Netherlands and Great Britain. A child is not required to leaf the family at age of 18. Very often the parents support their child. If it is a middle class family, which has a space, the child can live with parents and paid some symbolic sum for the upkeep of the home on the condition that he/she put some money aside for the own flat. The property ladder is not known and the family and friend are seen as very important.
http://girlinczechland.com/2013/03/13/death-to-dishonesty-3-ways-czechs-reject-the-fakery-of-modern-life/
According value survey (1995) 83,7% of Russians said that the family is very important, 12,6% agreed that it is very important. Czech numbers were 90,8% and 7,2%. So if for Russians is the family important, for Czechs is important even more.
Horizontal mobility is small. People will commute, they will accept a pay cut, but they will not move. Austrians  and Czechs are two nation in the EU which are the least wiling to move abroad to get a very well paid job.
If there is a problem in a family - an unknown father + an alcoholic mother - the children will go to the grandparents or an aunt.
Also if the parents do not have money to support their children, the grand parents must step in, they can be sued for support. On the other land, the grand children must support grand parents.

b) It is true that 20th century was not very kind to the Central Europe. It is true that Czechs as a nation emerged from years of communism and occupation as on of the most damages nations, if not the most damages one. A low trust society, a parochial and an intolerant society, a society of cynics, egoists living according "he who does not steal from the common, steals from his family". A society which was very aptly described as a society where is nothing shameful, a society which is sometime nicknamed "Chechnya under Bohemian forest".   It is also true that the economic transformation was a bit disaster and country is ruled by peoples born in 1950s or 1960s, that is by the most damages generations. But there are first green branches on the scorched land, a new free generation was born, generation which is not taught to say one thing at home and an another in school, a generation of open borders, a generation of the internet, a generation which is less materialistic (it does not remember empty shops) and less obedient. So there is slow revival of civic society and if you have a look at Inglehat's map, you can see that self expressions is more valued then self-survival. It means Czechs are more ready than Russians to sign a petition ...to do something.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inglehart%E2%80%93Welzel_cultural_map_of_the_world#mediaviewer/File:Inglehart_Values_Map2.svg
In this case
- there were collecting money for a lawyer, there was few demonstrations and petitions, there is a constant pressure on the government, ministers Diensbier and Marksová-Tominová are criticised for not doing enough.
- CPS  has a new page in Wikipedia
- Dominik Hašek - promised his golden medial from Nagano to person who will get the children back.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominik_Ha%C5%A1ek

c) there is the question that the boys are Czech citizens and the same goes for their parents. Also it is not only one case, they are minimally  five cases (Gabriela Lode..) So Norway is sorting a Czech family? Hu?

d) there is the language question. I am not sure if you understand it.  I think Peter the Great prohibited to use Ukrainian for printing books in 1720, the prohibition was repeated. Lithuanian were prohibited to print anything in Lithuanian, but few church books and they had to be printed in Russian alphabet. "What the Russian bayonet didn't accomplish, the Russian school will."  Austrian post offices did not accept a telegram in Czech or in Slovenian in 19th century. The first Czech high school was open 1848 (I think), the University in Warsaw was closed by Russians. Prague university got its Czech branch only in 1882.
If your mother tongue is Estonian, Czech, Polish, Lithuanian it is for you not a self evident fact, but a result of a long fight for every Czech school, every Polish book, for every child.
Look the anthems - it is nothing along the line Rule Britania. It is Poland is not dead yet, Ukraine is not dead yet, Slovaks will be reborn, Where is my home ? (the Czech anthem)
If you open autobiographies of local "saint" , you will find a constant motive - how they were humiliated, getting beating, being punished and mock for crime of using their mother tongue. I suppose for you is Rosa Luxemburg a German socialist, but she was from a Polish, Jewish family and in her youth she used to pick her friends for their ability to speak French, to avoid conversation in occupants languages (German and Russian), to use Polish was a punishable offence.
The best book written about the Czech language is a book written under Nazi occupation, it was written by a Prague German speaking Jew and it name is "Czech  as a temple and a fortified house. The language is sacred. It is a heirloom.  To prohibit a Czech mother to speak with her children in Czech is something comparable with cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad. Maybe worse. It is an attack on the whole community. It got people to switch in a short thinking mode.
Poles compared CPS in Norway with Hitlerjugend, in the Czech republic are they compared with Lebensborn. On the Czech blogs (no it the press) are people asking why the hell  is Norway not nuked yet, nuke the Nazi. There is believe in Lithuania, in the Czech republic in in Poland that the goal of CPS is to steal others people children, because children are valuable resource. 

e)also it sells newspapers and brings points to opposition.
11  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Child kidnapping by the Norwegian State on: February 10, 2015, 05:03:55 PM
According the Czech radio:
The Czech Republic will continue to put diplomatic pressure on Norway in connection with the case of two Czech brothers who were taken into care in the country, Prime Minister Bohuslav Sobotka told their mother Eva Michaláková in a meeting on Tuesday. A children’s welfare official from Brno is due to visit Norway in the coming days to discuss extending the mother’s visiting rights and to ensure the boys receive Czech lessons. He will also relay a Czech pledge to monitor the boys’ welfare if they are returned to the Czech Republic.
12  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Child kidnapping by the Norwegian State on: February 10, 2015, 10:35:46 AM
I think one of the reasons is really certain ideology.
Namely - Polish, Slovak ....families are patriarchal, authoritarian and the parents smack children (true on all counts), so we must to save the nice children from their parents.
13  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Child kidnapping by the Norwegian State on: February 06, 2015, 03:59:17 PM
http://www.ceskenoviny.cz/tema/zpravy/zemanovi-se-nelibi-postup-norskych-uradu-v-pripade-ceskych-deti/1177922&id_seznam=35
The Czech president is not pleased.
The president of the republic expressed his dissatisfaction with the actions of Norway services, which are keeping all documents relevant for the assessment of the whole issue secrete and asked the ambassador of the Norwegian Kingdom to keep him up to inform about the whole issue.

14  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Child kidnapping by the Norwegian State on: February 05, 2015, 09:29:13 AM
Protest against CPS

Tomorrow Dublin at 14.00
https://cs-cz.facebook.com/events/421950224648399/

Tomorrow London
https://cs-cz.facebook.com/events/1410648342562958/

The Czech republic - this weekend
http://jihlava.idnes.cz/transparenty-proti-barnevernet-pri-biatlonu-v-novem-meste-na-morave-1jd-/jihlava-zpravy.aspx?c=A150204_2136816_jihlava-zpravy_mv

2000 leaflets in Czech, English, Russians and Norwegian  were printed. The aim is also to inform Russians if they have problems they should to contact the group.
The message is : "Were you kidnapped by Barnverent? Do you want back do mommy. We will help you."
15  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Child kidnapping by the Norwegian State on: February 03, 2015, 12:40:42 PM
there is some info about Czech protests
https://www.facebook.com/BarnevernetStealsChildren

video
English subtitles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVvLZwy5OmE&feature=youtu.be
some subtitles
http://www.ceskatelevize.cz/ct24/nejnovejsi-videa/296115-ct-vyrazila-po-stopach-ceskych-deti-odebranych-v-norsku/

Lithuania
http://en.delfi.lt/global-lt/norways-ambassador-ulland-child-welfare-is-top-consideration-for-norwegian-institutions-regardless-of-citizenship.d?id=65467404
protest
http://www.delfi.lt/news/daily/lithuania/prie-norvegijos-ambasados-piketavo-pasipiktine-lietuviai.d?id=67071834


it seems one happy end
http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/Somaja-8-og-Rajana-6-bortfort-pa-vei-fra-skolen-7598891.html
16  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Child kidnapping by the Norwegian State on: February 02, 2015, 09:46:32 AM
News from Lithuania
http://ru.delfi.lt/news/live/shveciya-vernula-pohischennogo-litovkoj-malchika-v-norvegiyu.d?id=67058938
17  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Child kidnapping by the Norwegian State on: January 30, 2015, 06:10:32 PM
And from what I could gather from the articles, Norwegian CPS either separated the brother or plans to do so, while, as per standard forced integration practice, denies them lessons in Czech language, forcing them to forget their mother tongue.

The boys were separated and the mother is prohibited to speak with them in Czech. The language question is dynamite.

Nazzis had Lebensborn program initially set up in Germany in 1935, the program expanded into several occupied European countries with Germanic populations during the Second World War. It included the selection of "racially worthy" orphans including some children from Lidice
http://frr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lidice

There is a novel about a child in this program, how she fells lonely, "mother" does no love her...eventually she returns home, but she has problems with integration
http://www.amazon.com/They-Called-Lein-Zdenka-Bezdekova/dp/B000NPJF9E/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1422640532&sr=1-2
It used to be an obligatory reading, so the language question is hypersensitive.


Táňa Fischerová CT: Czech Helsinki Committee turns to the UN Committee on the Rights of the Child, to assess whether Norway during the removal of children and the implementation of foster care does not violate the Convention on the Rights of the Child.
Czech Helsinki Committee wishes to make a complaint to the UN Committee on the Rights of the Child on Norway for violation of the Convention on the Rights of the Child in the removal of children from Czech, Russian and Polish families. The child’s opinion is not taken into account in the proceedings, children should be with their mother regularly see and communicate, are targeted bond between siblings. According to the testimony of Russian children returned to them in foster families is not well treated, suffering from emotional stress.
http://www.helcom.cz/cs/en/tana-fischerova-v-ct-cesky-helsinsky-vybor-se-obrati-na-vybor-osn-pro-prava-ditete-aby-posoudil-zda-norsko-pri-odebirani-deti-a-pri-realizaci-nahradni-rodinne-pece-neporusuje-umluvu-o-pravech-ditet/
http://denikreferendum.cz/clanek/19633-evropa-hodnot
18  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Child kidnapping by the Norwegian State on: January 30, 2015, 11:15:16 AM

I am very glad to hear that Naine thinks the issue will not die down in Czechia. The only way to achieve a change is for people to react strongly over every case, and not forget it, not shrug their shoulders, not to accept all the babble which official Norway comes up with.

It is not going away.
The Norway prime minister said: Get lost, I will do nothing.
http://www.tyden.cz/rubriky/domaci/norska-premierka-do-kauz-deti-zasahovat-nebudeme_331685.html#.VMth3aNwYwc

The government does not do very much, but the opposition see possibilities how to collect some points.

Jitka Chalánková was in Norway and she is not impressed.
http://www.parlamentnilisty.cz/politika/politici-volicum/Chalankova-TOP-09-Zmena-zakona-je-nutna-337857
She sais that Norway is in the breach of human rights
http://www.parlamentnilisty.cz/politika/politici-volicum/Chalankova-TOP-09-Pokud-selze-diplomacie-pozadam-snemovnu-o-zalobu-na-Norsko-355203

Petr Mach thinks that it is a business
http://www.parlamentnilisty.cz/politika/politici-volicum/Mach-Svobodni-Norsky-system-odebirani-deti-je-vynosny-kseft-359453

Tomáš Zdechovský is not pleased. It seems to him very strange that a mass murderer can see his mother every month and two small Czech children cannot.
http://www.parlamentnilisty.cz/politika/politici-volicum/Zdechovsky-KDU-CSL-Dukazy-ukazuji-ze-v-Norsku-dochazi-k-systemove-chybe-359445
He was in Norway, according him Norway police was polite and correct, CPS - spite and malice.
Why you have separated the children? Hmmm...what?
What the mother must to do, to get them back? Hmm...
http://www.reflex.cz/clanek/komentare/61750/dokonaly-hyenismus-pokracuje-norove-o-odebranych-detech-mlzi-a-vysmivaji-se-nam.html
http://echo24.cz/a/wMDbY/pravnik-matky-ceskych-deti-v-norsku-jsme-slyseli-absurdity

The grand father was in Norway, he was not able to see his grandchildren...we do not have anybody who could translate...they had 6 month to find somebody
http://www.tyden.cz/rubriky/domaci/prijel-navstivit-vnuky-do-norska-urad-mu-to-zakazal_302803.html#.VMthc6NwYwc
http://pravyprostor.cz/kde-je-moje-dite-otevreny-dopis-velvyslanci-norska-v-ceske-republice/
http://sonasvobodova.blog.idnes.cz/c/434665/Norsko-ceska-media-lzou-Umluvu-neporusujeme.html

Aunt of children went to court at Hodoním, she wants them into care.
http://www.novinky.cz/domaci/359993-uz-jsme-jim-koupili-i-postele-rika-teta-dvou-chlapcu-odebranych-v-norsku.html
Moreover local police was asked by the grandfather to look at fact, how it is possible that the children are kept in Norway.
http://brno.idnes.cz/kauza-ceske-deti-v-norsku-u-policie-a-soudu-v-hodonine-pd0-/brno-zpravy.aspx?c=A150127_135926_brno-zpravy_daj

Documents
http://www.lidovky.cz/trestni-oznameni-proti-matce-odebranych-deti-bylo-pozastaveno-pvn-/zpravy-domov.aspx?c=A150121_181850_ln_domov_ele


The advertisement of CPS was also criticised
http://www.krajskelisty.cz/praha/obvod-praha-1/7400-socialka-ktera-ma-maslo-na-hlave-inzeruje-hledate-zabavu-a-vzruseni-pracujte-u-nas-z-toho-se-vam-zvedne-zaludek.htm
19  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Child kidnapping by the Norwegian State on: January 30, 2015, 10:19:30 AM
Mrs Siri Ellen Sletner
an official statement in English
http://www.ceskatelevize.cz/ct24/nejnovejsi-videa/298934-marksova-k-norskym-detem-cast-spisu-je-v-souladu-s-prohlasenim-norske-ambasady/
20  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Child kidnapping by the Norwegian State on: January 29, 2015, 10:34:26 AM

A petition
https://secure.avaaz.org/en/petition/Government_of_Norway_Return_Children_to_Their_Mother/
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