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Hi all and Welcome to Ponzis Explained w/ Analysis & Ratings!


INTRODUCTION

What is this!?
This is a weekly analitic thread about ponzis and HYIPs running on this subforum. Where i will try to rate them as neutral as possible, even better if your help.

Why do you do this!?
Basically because I like share my thought processes and my experience about them (crypto versions, not real money ones). And also to help the newbies to fall in obvious scams. (neither a ponzi, just a "collect&runaway")

Oh ok...But who are you!?
I'm a long time lurker of this subforum, and yes... sometimes, very rarely, I have invested on them.

Why are you wasting your time with them? They're all scams!
Yes and No, Yes because 99% of the time they haven't a real business behind them or owners runs away quickly with all funds, and No because even if they haven't a real business behind them, some ponzi/HYIP (not all) can be profitable if you exploit it and understand how it works. I consider these just a gambling game with a potential good edge.

Ok, after this little introduction we can start!


WEEKLY TOPICS

#1 Trasparency: Why is the most important factor to be considered before make an "investment".

The system's trasparency is very important, and in my experience the first thing to look, for trasparency I mean:

- If website description is true (we make financial investements...NO, we are a ponzi...OK);
- If website stats are all showed and public (balance, total investment, total paid, all in&out transactions and not just last 100 for example) and this is the "key" to understand if join the system or not;
- If the system is manipulated (fake transactions are the most important indicator of very risky website, and also the most common practice used).

#2 Longevity: It's extremely important knowing how to estimate how much can HYIPs runs. Factors to be considered:

- How many days did it start?
- Their offers/plans are too high?
- How much effort they were put into their project?
- There is a good general interest in the project?
- The owner has already had other projects? How he behaved in the past?


WEEKLY TIPS

#1 Never be greedy, one good investment can be much better than ten bad investments, be patient, wait an opportunity... and push!

#2 Stay informed, learn to identify owners, they can change nick but not their habits and sometimes even if the system seems good to invest, the greediness of the owner brings to close the project prematurely.


RATINGS *Updated to June 10th, 2015 - All ratings can change in the future.

Risk: It's referred to the actual risk to join the system on last update.
Gantz Rating: It's a changeable global vote that include my wish to join at the last update, basically a site can be rated 7/10 at the start and only 1/10 when I think that he will die soon.



ACTIVE SYSTEMS

URL	TRASPARENCY	POTENTIAL LONGEVITY	CONCEPT	PLAN	RISK	GANTZ RATING
Nine9.ninja	10/10	INFINITE	7/10	0-125% No Time	HIGH	4/10

CONSIDERATIONS: Hybrid ponzi/gambling game, deposits/bets expires and game continues, actually queue is short. This game is totally trasparent, all stats, transactions and addresses are public.

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URL	TRASPARENCY	POTENTIAL LONGEVITY	CONCEPT	PLAN	RISK	GANTZ RATING
CrazyPonzi.com	1/10	INFINITE	7/10	0-140% No Time	HIGH	3/10

CONSIDERATIONS: This can be considered more a betting game than a ponzi, if fact this can continue indefinitely, bets expires and game continues. They don't publish deposit and payout transactions, this game can be easily manipulated.

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URL	TRASPARENCY	POTENTIAL LONGEVITY	CONCEPT	PLAN	RISK	GANTZ RATING
cherryRace.com	0/10	MEDIUM	4/10	4% Daily	HIGH	1/10

CONSIDERATIONS: There is no trasparency at all. Their concept could be attractive, but it's just a normal HYIP. Stats on homepage are not updated.

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URL	TRASPARENCY	POTENTIAL LONGEVITY	CONCEPT	PLAN	RISK	GANTZ RATING
Dr-Bitcoin.com	0/10	MEDIUM	4/10	2,6-3,6% Daily	HIGH	1/10

CONSIDERATIONS: They want big fishes, see their plans. In fact I considered only the dailys, other plans are just insanely high. Not transparent, can be easily manipulated. Potential longevity is compromised due to possibility to run away after that some big fish join. Their effort in the project can be considered a good thing.

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URL	TRASPARENCY	POTENTIAL LONGEVITY	CONCEPT	PLAN	RISK	GANTZ RATING
MMMGlobal.org	1/10	LONG	1/10	120-200% Monthly	HIGH	1/10

CONSIDERATIONS: Hybrid chain letter/ponzi, not trasparent system and primarily no stats at all. This makes really hard understand in which status is the system, and their very slow earning system should discourage to join.

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DEAD SYSTEMS

URL	TRASPARENCY	POTENTIAL LONGEVITY	CONCEPT	PLAN	RISK	GANTZ RATING
ProfitCoins.org	0/10	SHORT	1/10	8-15% Daily	EXTR. HIGH	0/10

CONSIDERATIONS: Payments stopped, stay away.

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URL	TRASPARENCY	POTENTIAL LONGEVITY	CONCEPT	PLAN	RISK	GANTZ RATING
HkbIncome.com	0/10	VERY SHORT	1/10	25-50% Daily	VERY HIGH	0/10

CONSIDERATIONS: Very short HYIP, that because their plans are offering very high returns, be careful.

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URL	TRASPARENCY	POTENTIAL LONGEVITY	CONCEPT	PLAN	RISK	GANTZ RATING
btc-goldmine.com	2/10	VERY SHORT	3/10	250% in 10 Days	VERY HIGH	0/10

CONSIDERATIONS: Tricky HYIP, design is really cool and attractive, but basically it's just a short term HYIP, probably very short. Be careful. People can login in other accounts and withdraw instead of the owner, what they need is just the BTC address.

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URL	TRASPARENCY	POTENTIAL LONGEVITY	CONCEPT	PLAN	RISK	GANTZ RATING
StableBit.biz	5/10	SHORT	4/10	1% until 200/220/240%	EXTR. HIGH	0/10

CONSIDERATIONS: Payments stopped, stay away. Greedy owner.

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URL	TRASPARENCY	POTENTIAL LONGEVITY	CONCEPT	PLAN	RISK	GANTZ RATING
CryptoHours.com	1/10	VERY SHORT	3/10	2% Hourly, 200%Max	EXTR. HIGH	0/10

CONSIDERATIONS: Payments stopped, stay away.

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URL	TRASPARENCY	POTENTIAL LONGEVITY	CONCEPT	PLAN	RISK	GANTZ RATING
EdgeCoin.com	1/10	SHORT	3/10	5% Daily	EXTR. HIGH	0/10

CONSIDERATIONS: Payments stopped, stay away.

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URL	TRASPARENCY	POTENTIAL LONGEVITY	CONCEPT	PLAN	RISK	GANTZ RATING
Bit-Protect.com	4/10	MEDIUM	3/10	Multiplan	HIGH	0/10

CONSIDERATIONS: Hybrid real money/crypto HYIP, investement plans not totally clear, try them on calculator, actually in early game. System is early dead. Greedy owner.

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URL	TRASPARENCY	POTENTIAL LONGEVITY	CONCEPT	PLAN	RISK	GANTZ RATING
LucreBit.com	2/10	SHORT	2/10	10-20% Daily	VERY HIGH	0/10

CONSIDERATIONS: Not much trasparency, system actually in late game, probably it's too late to invest. System Dead.

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If you want another rating ask in this thread, when i have time I will update this post or will be posted in the next week thread!


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IMPORTANT: I can be easily wrong, what i'm saying here it's not the absolute truth!

any update? --

LOL bro you don't understand how cherry works,
you will get the amount after 50days
not 200% in 2, 3, 9 and 14 Days like you say  
and every day you will get so about the 4%

If you're looking for a better formatted or complete version with better ratings (so that the list is actually helpful), take a look over here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1075518.0

What determines risk since it seems that so far there are only two risks, High and extremely high

StableBit.biz pending = dead

Bit-protect.com is dead

Bit-Protect.com

Transparency: /10 Potential Longevity: MEDIUM Concept: /10 Plan: Multiplan Risk: SYSTEM IS DEAD - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -                  Gantz Rating: 0/10

 Considerations:
 Hybrid real money/crypto HYIP, investement plans not totally clear, try them on calculator, actually in early game.

 Updates:
 26/5/15 Gantz Rating from 5 to 0
 Reason: System is early dead. Greedy owner.

Do not see any change in your rating so far. I wonder how come scams like Bit-Protect.com, Dr-Bitcoin.com, PerfectProfit.biz, StableBit.biz get similar or higher Gantz rating than CrazyPonzi.com or Nine9.ninja !!!

Added Ratings:



btc-goldmine.com

Transparency: /10 Potential Longevity: SHORT Concept: /10 Plan: 250% in 10 Days Risk: HIGH - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -                 Gantz Rating: 2/10

 Considerations:
 Tricky HYIP, design is really cool and attractive, but basically it's just a short term HYIP, probably very short. Be careful. People can login in other accounts and withdraw instead of the owner, what they need is just the BTC address.



multiply-bitcoins.eu

Transparency: 0 /10 Potential Longevity: VERY SHORT Concept: /10 Plan: 200% in 1, 2 or 3 Days Risk: EXTREMELY HIGH - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -                 Gantz Rating: 0/10

 Considerations:
 Probaly an attempt of Collect & Run Away, full of fake transactions. Stay away.



StableBit.biz

Transparency: /10 Potential Longevity: SHORT Concept: /10 Plan: 1% until 200/220/240% Risk: MEDIUM - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -                 Gantz Rating: 5/10

 Considerations:
 Hourly HYIP, actually in early stage, can be profitable for early investors. Probably just for one cycle.



Hourly-coin.com

Transparency: 0 /10 Potential Longevity: MEDIUM Concept: 0 /10 Plan: 101% in 1 Hour Risk: HIGH - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -                 Gantz Rating: 0/10

 Considerations:
 Poor concept and, in my opinion, risk my btc for 1% it's not safe.



Updates:

EdgeCoin.com

21/05/2015 Risk: from HIGH to VERY HIGH
21/05/2015 Gantz Rating from 3 to 1
Reason It seems slowly dying, insufficient communication from owner, possible missing payouts.


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Complete List: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1064400.msg11408481#msg11408481

I would like to correct you, its name is PERFECTPROFIT.BIZ (not perfectponzi)

Admin's investment is too low, probably around $300, and program's concept is now out of date.
Now please focus on the investment made for this HYIP: template in use is probably old and looks like to be for a fast scam, their advertising is very very low in fact admin didn't even promoted on HYIP forums (very weird). Last thing, they got only 0.5 BTC and that's not good. This is very high risky program.

cryptohours.com - Attention, do not invest, payments stopped coming, I did not come Bitcoin

For  OP, why not update everyday? So many of member here can know about theirs investment. I think alot high rank member here will help u about condition for any investment site that ur posted here..

for the potential longevity, what is it based on?

I'm not against you and I don't own dr-bitcoin.com but I don't agree with your conclusions regards to Dr. Bitcoin.
You didn't even mention they are using custom script, unique template, registered a company, bought EV SSL certificate, bought BlackLotus DDoS protected server, bought many monitors already etc.
We don't know if it is a Ponzi scheme but this is actually paying for 38 days and I didn't see any complaint till now!
Now I seriously started to think that you have something to do with CrazyPonzi somehow because, being a HYIP investor since 2011, I can't accept to see a program who already invested AT LEAST $5,000 receiving such low rating. Well, it's your thread I know but the problem is that you are discouraging potential investors to take part in these big projects.

When you look at a new HYIP, two are things you need to look at: admin's investment and concept.

Seems so...


Like Dice sites, this game is also played from site wallet, i.e. off-chain. This enables us to earn referral commission, which is not possible on blockchain based games. Hence each bet can not be represented by blockchain Tx. In fact, the operator clearly stated that on www.crazyponzi.com/proof.php.


Suggestion: I think you should sort your list in the decreasing order of Gantz rating in OP.

hi can you please give a review about mmmglobal.org?

thankyou for making this thread, is really helpfull..

i hope u updated daily and expand to other site its hundred site like them in this section,,

and i dont understand about gatz? what is it?

They have made a few upgrades in their website and now withdrawals are open for anyone to verify - www.crazyponzi.com/proof.php.

48% of your initial deposit....
It takes 2 days and 2 hours to earn just your original deposit back and then another 2 days and 2 hours for your profit.
You are reading it wrong.

The fact you rated us 1/10 annoys me as we have paid over 13,500 times, and have not missed a single payment.

Unfortunately real HYIP investor don't join cryptohours like programs, it means you are going to have a lack of investors sooner or later, you are probably wondering why?
Easy mate, most of your investors mainly come from bitcointalk only. We also know that programs like that don't run for over 1 month max (because is totally unsustainable), it means that investors when will be in profit won't reinvest any cent... It's not safe for them.