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1  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: DoubleCoin.XYZ - Double your bitcoin in 100 hours. on: October 01, 2015, 09:16:30 AM
I know everyone who read this will probably think that I am just trolling, but this ain't a joke!
No trolling - promise!

For people who are lazy to read:
Long story short, this is HonestDoubler v2!

...

WARNING:

THIS IS NOT HONESTDOUBLER!
Nor any of the other cheap & crapy ponzis are!

This is just a cheap attempt to copy  _the HonestDoubler_ without creativity!

If we will make a doubler or hyip ever again, we will let you know with this acc! Everything else that looks like HonestDoubler, IS NOT HonestDoubler and it is obviously not run by a honest admin!

Honestly, I would not deposit any satoshi in here! Wink


BTW: We never blocked anyone in our chat, it was absolutely free speach! And if you are really "Iamdumb2" then you would know that!


@admin:  Good luck with that crap! Next time you better do not just copy paste. Wink
2  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: HonestDoubler.com - GAME OVER on: September 20, 2015, 08:42:40 PM

okay cool,
will you tell us with this account or will you open a new one?

the time will show.

Thats it, there is work to be done.

Gamble responsible!
3  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: HonestDoubler.com - 100% IN 100 HOURS - 15% REF, MANY LEGIT PAYOUTS!! on: September 20, 2015, 08:40:29 PM


Honestly, I ran TheGrandBitcoin with an investment of $30 and rolled more than 250 BTC in 5 days only, and of course I didn't spend any money in advertising, translations etc. Pretty lucky I would say loool

I gues if we would add something like "we are a professional team of arbitrage traders, who don't know what to do with their btc. And we will double your bitcoins guranteed in 100 hours... and so on" Probalby, we would role thousends of bitcoins now. But our intention was not to collect as many coins as possible, it was more to implement a long term doubler, that is honest from the beginning about the operation system.

Btw 30$ wont even cover the server.
4  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: HonestDoubler.com - 100% IN 100 HOURS - 15% REF, MANY LEGIT PAYOUTS!! on: September 20, 2015, 08:34:54 PM
Quote

RULES
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8. All deposits are used as donation to the previous users, for promotional purpose and to cover costs to run the program. Deposited amounts are multiplied after 100 hours and paid back to the provided payout address. But only if there is enough balance to cover your payout.

Your math is wrong.
Total deposit was around 230 btc, 200+ were paid as usual payout and referral comission. Some were lost due to the doublespend, some were used to cover the costs, and some were used to pay advertising on several pages, for the giveaway, for translation, and so on. The rest is distributed amon the unpaid users. Do you think one collect 230 bitcoins by just seting up a page and thats it? There was a lot of bitcoins pumped into advertising.


I know it takes money to run a website, and the promotional costs... but in total you probably paid 2 btc for all the costs combined. You lost around 14 btc due to a faulty system. and still you should have around 14-12 btc left. As for right now what I've seen you've only paid .75 btc ...

Look I'm not trying to heckle you or anything, but I won't be using or promoting your services again... especially due to the fact that you lost 14 btc in a matter of an hour or two.

We have not paid everyone in one single transaction. that 0.75 btc you see, is only one transaction out of many. everyone who had more than 0.1 btc was already paid, or will be paid his 4%. And that is way more than 0.75
5  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: HonestDoubler.com - GAME OVER on: September 20, 2015, 08:31:18 PM
@Admin

Will you open a new Project soon?


We will need a lot of time to rewrite our code. So no, not tomorrow and probably not in the near future. But if we start a new project, you will see it in the investor based games section.
6  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: HonestDoubler.com - GAME OVER on: September 20, 2015, 08:15:57 PM

Hahaha... he isn't going to be honest any more, this is when the real side of HD comes out.  He probably won't pay out at all, there still hasn't been any claim yet that he's actually decided to go through with this.


are you sure about that? probably you should check the page, 100+ already are paid their 4%


May i say 2 things to this?

If you make a doubler in the future change 2 things to keep alive longer.
Cause i do think we all can make a profit if this done better.
First: Lower the refferel to between 5 and 1 % or 0 cause why would you spent more money to shit if we can use this money more wiss.
Second: A max invest of 2%, the high better are killings this kind of HYIP.

Both adjustment will keep it run longer it's removes the greedy out of the system in a big way.

Good luck if you start a new poject.

I do not agree to that.

15% referral gave us exonential growth, but we have not prevented self referring, that was not very clever, on the other hand it was not the reason of collapsing.
Max deposit with bitcoin is not possible, since you can create as many accounts as you wish, and there is no big difference in depositing 1000* 0.001 than 1 bitcoin at once.


We were all the time on the edge of collapsing, the only realy good point to make it better next tame, would be reducing the ROI from 200% to <150% or something like 1% daily.

I understand,

Would you do it diffirent next time? considering it as a learning point..?

Yes, there are many things which we would do different.
7  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: HonestDoubler.com - 100% IN 100 HOURS - 15% REF, MANY LEGIT PAYOUTS!! on: September 20, 2015, 08:14:24 PM

As mentioned before, only deposits higher then 0.1 btc will be considered in the payback. Since we think anyone can handle to lose 20$.




That simply isn't true... you are paying out people under .1btc, which I guess is good for me, but that isn't the point.  You have in total paid around 40 people so far, anyone above .1btc and below .1btc ... plus the fact that you're paying 4% the total of all of that you have in total paid .75 btc ... which the total profit before the site crashed was around like 30 btc or so.

So excuse me if I'm not so impressed that he's giving out 4% of people's money back... I know it's not very usual that he's returning some of the money at all to people who invested on a ponzi, but in total he is profiting ALOT of bitcoin... I'm just saying. Sad

Edit: https://blockchain.info/tx/32d99a0514d92dac834619357ad80a569e311dfdbd93b492985e64fe33caa9a1


RULES
Quote
8. All deposits are used as donation to the previous users, for promotional purpose and to cover costs to run the program. Deposited amounts are multiplied after 100 hours and paid back to the provided payout address. But only if there is enough balance to cover your payout.

Your math is wrong.
Total deposit was around 230 btc, 200+ were paid as usual payout and referral comission. Some were lost due to the doublespend, some were used to cover the costs, and some were used to pay advertising on several pages, for the giveaway, for translation, and so on. The rest is distributed amon the unpaid users. Do you think one collect 230 bitcoins by just seting up a page and thats it? There was a lot of bitcoins pumped into advertising.
8  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: HonestDoubler.com - 100% IN 100 HOURS - 15% REF, MANY LEGIT PAYOUTS!! on: September 20, 2015, 07:22:09 PM

Hahaha... he isn't going to be honest any more, this is when the real side of HD comes out.  He probably won't pay out at all, there still hasn't been any claim yet that he's actually decided to go through with this.


are you sure about that? probably you should check the page, 100+ already are paid their 4%


May i say 2 things to this?

If you make a doubler in the future change 2 things to keep alive longer.
Cause i do think we all can make a profit if this done better.
First: Lower the refferel to between 5 and 1 % or 0 cause why would you spent more money to shit if we can use this money more wiss.
Second: A max invest of 2%, the high better are killings this kind of HYIP.

Both adjustment will keep it run longer it's removes the greedy out of the system in a big way.

Good luck if you start a new poject.

I do not agree to that.

15% referral gave us exonential growth, but we have not prevented self referring, that was not very clever, on the other hand it was not the reason of collapsing.
Max deposit with bitcoin is not possible, since you can create as many accounts as you wish, and there is no big difference in depositing 1000* 0.001 than 1 bitcoin at once.


We were all the time on the edge of collapsing, the only realy good point to make it better next tame, would be reducing the ROI from 200% to <150% or something like 1% daily.
9  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: HonestDoubler.com - 100% IN 100 HOURS - 15% REF, MANY LEGIT PAYOUTS!! on: September 20, 2015, 07:10:00 PM

Hahaha... he isn't going to be honest any more, this is when the real side of HD comes out.  He probably won't pay out at all, there still hasn't been any claim yet that he's actually decided to go through with this.


are you sure about that? probably you should check the page, 100+ already are paid their 4%


i checked the page and admin is really saying the truth, he will return 4% of the unpaid investments and i was waiting for my turn Cheesy at least i will get 0.002 btc from my 0.05 btc deposit, still better than nothing

As mentioned before, only deposits higher then 0.1 btc will be considered in the payback. Since we think anyone can handle to lose 20$.

10  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: HonestDoubler.com - 100% IN 100 HOURS - 15% REF, MANY LEGIT PAYOUTS!! on: September 20, 2015, 06:55:17 PM

Hahaha... he isn't going to be honest any more, this is when the real side of HD comes out.  He probably won't pay out at all, there still hasn't been any claim yet that he's actually decided to go through with this.


are you sure about that? probably you should check the page, 100+ already are paid their 4%
11  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: HonestDoubler.com - 100% IN 100 HOURS - 15% REF, MANY LEGIT PAYOUTS!! on: September 20, 2015, 05:18:54 PM
we will distribute the leftovers to all who deposited more then 0.1 btc. A total return of 4% of the deposit.

4% Huh?? Might as well just say, yeah... we're taking everything... *sigh*, thought you were going to be honest. What was your total profit on this site? 20 something btc's?

so you donate those 4% to us, ok thanks. We will keep them then.
12  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: HonestDoubler.com - 100% IN 100 HOURS - 15% REF, MANY LEGIT PAYOUTS!! on: September 20, 2015, 05:04:36 PM
we will distribute the leftovers to all who deposited more then 0.1 btc. A total return of 4% of the deposit.
13  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: HonestDoubler.com - 100% IN 100 HOURS - 15% REF, MANY LEGIT PAYOUTS!! on: September 20, 2015, 04:49:45 PM
GAME OVER
Dear HonestDoubler Participants.

The project "HonestDoubler" has come to an end.
The reasons are:

1) Our automated payment API is broken, we will need a lot of time to fix that.
2) Our balance almost hit zero.

Regarding to our rules, we are only able to process payouts, if there is enough balance. Since our API is broken, payouts are only possible with a huge delay and there is still a risk of doublespend. Under that circumstances, further operating is not possible, we can not accept further deposits => Our balance will hit zero as soon as we start manual payout.
So we decided to stop operating, and distribute the leftovers among all unpaid deposits beyond 0.1 btc.

You all were aware of the game and risk, you all were well informed that payout is only possible if there is enough balance which is generated by new deposits only. You all knew that there is no guarantee of payment! Do not blame the highrollers, or anyone else for your losses, because you are the only one who decided to take the risk, and deposit!
Regards,
HonestDoubler
14  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: HonestDoubler.com - 100% IN 100 HOURS - 15% REF, MANY LEGIT PAYOUTS!! on: September 20, 2015, 12:15:00 PM

It's too late Tongue You shouldn't accept deposits when the "error" started , we have to post here the question multiple times just for you to be able to reject deposits. Tsk, what a shady move, anyways I still wanna thank you for the profit I gained with your site despite of this incident. Still, it doesn't change the fact that you scammed some late investors, I feel sad for them

All deposits are donations to previous users. Read the rules. People were aware that their coins will be donated to previous users.


Thats it, no more attention to trolls. Our rules were clear and simple to understand for everyone.
15  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: HonestDoubler.com - 100% IN 100 HOURS - 15% REF, MANY LEGIT PAYOUTS!! on: September 20, 2015, 11:57:45 AM


I was about to post here and call you for that  when honestdoubler ignored the question why he still accepts deposits despite of the plan of restarting the site and proclaiming the death of HD Grin

R.I.P. Honestdoubler
August 23, 2015 - September 20, 2015

we do not accept any deposits anymore

It's too late Tongue You shouldn't accept deposits when the "error" started , we have to post here the question multiple times just for you to be able to reject deposits. Tsk, what a shady move, anyways I still wanna thank you for the profit I gained with your site despite of this incident. Still, it doesn't change the fact that you scammed some late investors, I feel sad for them

We scamend some? You are the one in profit here! How about donating your profits to those who are in loss?
16  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: HonestDoubler.com - 100% IN 100 HOURS - 15% REF, MANY LEGIT PAYOUTS!! on: September 20, 2015, 11:47:09 AM
Lol... they run away with about 200 BTC.... not bad for a month. They could have stuck to their rules and just paid as long as it lasted. Which clearly shows, that they are fraudsters. Too funny..... but people fall for names lie "honest" and "doubler"....

what 200 btc??? we never had more then 30 btc balance on our wallet at once. Every satoshi was constantly paid to the users.

Congratz you are the biggest troll here.
17  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: HonestDoubler.com - 100% IN 100 HOURS - 15% REF, MANY LEGIT PAYOUTS!! on: September 20, 2015, 11:26:16 AM


I was about to post here and call you for that  when honestdoubler ignored the question why he still accepts deposits despite of the plan of restarting the site and proclaiming the death of HD Grin

R.I.P. Honestdoubler
August 23, 2015 - September 20, 2015

we do not accept any deposits anymore
18  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: HonestDoubler.com - 100% IN 100 HOURS - 15% REF, MANY LEGIT PAYOUTS!! on: September 20, 2015, 10:57:46 AM
This was early....

So why are you still accepting money when you know that these people will lose their money? Smells like a scam, looks like a scam, is a scam.

You don't provide any proof for what you're saying. All we know is that people lost their money.

The difference to many other scams is that there are people who know who you are. So I'd suggest that all who lost something put something together and offer a reward to get name and address of the person(s) behind "honest""doubler".... That would be fun :-)

Just an hour ago , an innocent loser deposited 0.8 btc and 3 hours ago , a much loser deposited 1.229 btc. I also wonder why admin still accept investments until now Huh OP should shut down the site

Well, that's the nature of frauds...,.  they try to get as much as they can. Their greed combined with the greed of the users (I will never call them "investors") leads to the loss of the gamblers. However, as stated before: They were too greedy, too, and left some traces which could lead to their real names. So I'd recommend to use an escrow, "invest" money there and go after the guys from "honest""doubler".

Trying to scare us will lead only to one thing. We will keep the leftovers!


Everyone was warned, everyone knew it may be over at any time. Read our rules!
19  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: HonestDoubler.com - 100% IN 100 HOURS - 15% REF, MANY LEGIT PAYOUTS!! on: September 20, 2015, 09:35:00 AM
Public Statement 20.09

Okay guys. We have lost more then exected. If we proceed as usual we will reach the "zero balance zone" as soon as we pay the first pages of the overdue deposits.


There are few posible ways out of this.

1) We try to switch the API.

That would take days, it would lead to a lack of deposits, and mean the sure death of HonestDoubler. That means all deposits will be lost.


2) We make a hard restart. All payouts which can not be covered will stay upaid and declared as lost. Regarding to our rules.

The problem about that is, we can not fix the issue with the old-api since it is not on our end. Under that circumstances we can not process automated payouts.  We would need to implement another payment api and that would take days. It would lead to a lack of deposits, and mean the sure death of HonestDoubler. A fast restart is not possible.


3) We spread the leftovers among all deposits, that would be approximately 5% of your deposit. We rewrite our code, switch the api, and start again in a week or two, after all is set up securely.
20  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: HonestDoubler.com - 100% IN 100 HOURS - 15% REF, MANY LEGIT PAYOUTS!! on: September 19, 2015, 11:48:14 PM
Delays 19.09/20.09 - Statement


We descovered that our fix for the previous issue was not successfull.

Several repeated payouts were processed again:

Code:
---------------deposit hash---------------------------------------------------------------payout address---------------------------------------------------
4f5f5f4568eb59c6cf4533a26a4668b5aa9f0be2567a23ea27e24f24573690fa 3C2SG8SajAYoiYBmEdtZS5HANfpJBYJjas
28e8f631b645cbc777c3832a7c91baa57fb132775768df3b00a1b97030ac288a 1JFwHTepbtLdCz42m6tXqPyTBGc5qHRDN8
bce3e2e95486a933b49ccf02726758f50389dd53cf00fccd2884c38106829754 19HL5kRZxgiqDfKmM4jsF9pLPJY5mFdCco
d4a4f14315904df4691c4e1b7e325450a5b9badb960a8d656804bdfea6c288d4 1KGT1QP3wg6GPJnLhTzFrTcuoVEceRdZg6
692a7aac83cc31ca85a9eb708cad2dc5ccace89a44664942181789cf82e8a7a5 1GniWiSBuFcYenfGVtjueJoJHAgaS5D1Vx
6ed0205dfee7a33e484d01ada86e29601dbc25b9b6dfcf17f3a35b50673c12f9 1JrUbUdpZHLb9gcZWBcP64tKnrYdPCE5dF
6573c2ae2a5dc4941f352b3efa1425de8e6d93982e56e4a1800bb3f6c56ff684 3LHjnQ5evPQV34DHNhYxxdgBCrtgGXRkXc
18c05da01a5bd294a31f5bd3f59afe6b9117b3ff3f4498f0a5ab1cd6482db19a 1H9TB6MMuAaFHb2dcH1nh9UCAFv4M1fEh
5ecb80650af93f2625e1735058d4b93e300f5b908ec4cd9b133c1e177c123d54 39trhYCjKCpMfmbAAN2SFK8ShF2VLBYdhK
2593c5be49428c15f762b879ec5c8db79e54942ec4e25cddfab16c261052cc72 1BESvK8ABzUjV96jXjN6iXCpE43ghpRYAG


We decided to halt all payouts, until the issue is resolved.

Please stay patient.
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