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Can't speak for scam, but me, I don't think so. It's not worth that much to me. (mind you, you sure are grumpy, even to neucoiners  ) I think you have probably been a bit mercenary. You were drafted in later on? * When the others left? You were paid well? Or offered a commission? You must have seen what a bad set up it was? Before you joined? Are you still holding neucoin? How much did it cost you? Was neucoin a good career move for you? Yeah, like I want to satisfy your curiosity after all the personal attacks and everything. Except for Dominick Veltre (Gekko363), I don't know you, why should I disclose my personal infos ? |
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And I thought that you hated me  |
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Ophelie on 2015-08-05: We're also finished with the development of a fully functional blockchain explorer.
Sylvain today:    Finished development doesn't imply that a product is ready to be shipped mate ! As for answering question, since this is my personal account I tend to don't feel obligated to answer question especially when they are not technical.
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Thats cool, thanks! But I'll be minting the normal way for the time being.. Should I expect any stake rewards any time soon ? not sure how the reward system works with Neu.. After 1.6 days (before your Neu are able to mint), it depends on how much you are trying to mint, if the your Neu are spread across multiple address in your wallet and thing like that. Hey Sylvain, member of the NEUCOIN CODE FOUNDATION and NEUCOIN UTILITY FOUNDATION, care to address those important questions? The adresses for this mysterious foundations... are they known/transparent?
And for Neucoin, isn't there a blockexplorer? Can't find it.
Let me guess: You don't care to address those important questions, right? Didn't know that we have a Neucoin-team-member here... would be nice to answer those questions. There is not much communication as far as I see. The Neucoin-Forum is very quiet and it's hard (or impossible) to find important informations. If you read the whole thread, you'll find more of us  As for answering question, since this is my personal account I tend to don't feel obligated to answer question especially when they are not technical. And since NeuCoin is pre-mined, the coins are already in the NeuCoin blockchain and can be monitored that way (but since there is not yet an explorer) you have to do it by hand like this guy did here http://forum.neucoin.org/t/fyi-neucoin-blockchain-as-a-csv-file-can-be-read-in-excel/1685 |
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Thats cool, thanks! But I'll be minting the normal way for the time being.. Should I expect any stake rewards any time soon ? not sure how the reward system works with Neu.. After 1.6 days (before your Neu are able to mint), it depends on how much you are trying to mint, if the your Neu are spread across multiple address in your wallet and thing like that. |
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Magicking, (he will be running 2 foundations i believe, I cant get any fact here) thinks neucoin is comparable to a Fortune 500 company, well I suppose he's half right, the pay structure certainly is, even if the market cap isn't. Magicking is telling us it doesn't matter how much the founders make, or what the real figures are, we should just shut up, believe, and ride the ponzi wave. I guess that's the official line now, don't ask just believe. I'm now wondering how a company with $1m market cap can sustain such high wage packets. Are we now at the point when you make your own facts ? You sound delusional. |
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I'm sorry you didn't get the joke earlier.
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Oh my, we know. The typical Neucon team member prefers sentences like:
"I like shoes and Neucon" or "I put all my love in this project"
Haha You're stoned today, aren't you? You say something funny, I laugh. A lot of people must be stoned according to your standards. |
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No, I don't see the irony, Sylvain Kauphy Roger Laurent.
It was aimed at Gekko463 and since you're apparently skilled with your Google-Fu, you can check yourself what's a white knight is. What is it you aimed at me? Your writing is so garbled and the link to reddit made no sense at all. That link is pointing out yet ANOTHER lie by Kauffman & Company. One day Dan is in a magazine claiming Althouse is developing a new crypto-coin, with Sandrine by his side. After a year and a half, no employees listed and no financial reports. Yet here on Bitcointalk, just in the last few days...we know Sandrine was an employee, no, wait, Sandrine was the President! and Orphelie is an employee and other "real people with real lives" as Orphelie told us...are employees of...something... and they want billions of Neucoins for their trouble... yet Althouse claims no employees, never made a financial report in 6 quarters, and the new official "Sandrine is not allowed to talk here anymore" "official DanK sock puppet account" told us: no, no, no, Althouse was just a "contractor". "We are not going to tell you the name of the real company because we've broken so many securities laws around the globe and and screwed French tax payers horribly, and we want to walk away Scott-free after we are done screwing all the pre-sale investors in the PnD...so, the name of Orphelie's employer remains a mystery..." So how were you attacking me? I don't feel adequately attacked. Send in somebody smarter to run your sock-puppet. I don't understand you, your writing is so garbled :/ |
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No, I don't see the irony, Sylvain Kauphy Roger Laurent.
It was aimed at Gekko463 and since you're apparently skilled with your Google-Fu, you can check yourself what's a white knight is. |
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Missing my point again. I don't think neucoin's taxes or any of that stuff matters.
I'm trading the coin. Hoping it goes up. That's it.
You're missing my point again: you have given your money to demonstrably dishonest people. You are not getting it back. if he rides the PnD, he might. But someone will be left holding the bag. But thank to white knight like you and Gekko463 (see the irony of it ?), us, too stupid to use our brain will be saved. Praise you \o/ Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/neucoin/comments/3jcwho/questions_for_former_president_of_neucoin/cuocvta |
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Post some screenshots so we can see the client.
What difference does it make ? |
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Damn, I see why it's a scam now !
Are you stupid? You already said. You don't get jokes do you ? Since the launch was delayed that will probably be delayed too then...
Since they already have repeatedly over-promised and under-delivered, and even attempted to scrub their past by modified posts on their own forum, this was simply a reminder. @Sandrine, remember the promise you made!
That's more an unfortunate problem of IT projects. |
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This one Point #1: the Foundations cannot vote with the NeuCoins that they own.
is different from the old one: Coming back on LiQio’s questions, which are indeed totally relevant: - "All foundations are ultimately controlled by NeuCoin holders (1 NeuCoin = 1 vote)" -> Will the foundations not be able to vote with their huge majority of coins?
It is indeed true at the beginning, which will also enable the coin to be developed according to the strategy detailed in our wiki and to be kickstarted. [...] ... However Sandrine promised figures
promised in-depth (figures) fund management
promised A detailed plan
Damn, I see why it's a scam now ! They are opening a new office in London soon. Sandrine recently moved there and bought property. Merely coincidence?
Remind me of http://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlationsFor the spyware thing, I still believe in the human nature so I might turn the other cheek even if that shit was hard to remove. |
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@Sandrine, remember the promise you made! [...] our plan is executed in a fully transparent way ( figures will be made available before the launch of the cryptocurrency in July) [...] - How will the foundations influence the market price? What is the hopefully transparent strategy (in-depth) and how is it enforced?
The foundations will manage their holdings in the way described below ( http://www.neucoin.org/en/wiki/#funding). The in-depth (figures) fund management will be made available before the release of the cryptocurrency in July [...]
- Will there be a detailed spending plan for the huge amount of foundation stakes plus the huge amount of coins they will receive from the high reward PoS rewards before the sale of the peanuts starts?
This question revolves around your second question (let me know I’m wrong) "What is the hopefully transparent strategy (in-depth)" to which I gave an answer above. A detailed plan will be made available before the launch of the cryptocurrency in July 2015. [...] Since the launch was delayed that will probably be delayed too then... |
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If all the coins are dumped to everybody, the value of the coin goes down effectively killing it or putting it aside, if they don't, the voting system is a joke and the credibility of the coin goes down and nobody would use it except the few that bought it, do I get it ?
concerning point 1: maybe, after distributing/dumping the value could go down, but could also find a market based balance which is higher - many factors would be influential concerning point 2: yes, the voting system as proposed is a joke - it's not a democracy but a dictatorship Well you could either dump everything and hope that somehow it might works or they can control the distribution and ensure that it works then no ? there is hope involved on both paths ;-) but the real question is why would they write "Within a year after launch, NeuCoin holders will effectively take full control of the NeuCoin foundations." when they and everybody else can see that this is another lie not true? Can you tell me? Yeah but I would not launch a rocket to the moon and expect it land on hope if you see what I mean  And for what's on the plan, that's if everything goes well, you know... It's the future Plus: History will tell anyway. |
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If all the coins are dumped to everybody, the value of the coin goes down effectively killing it or putting it aside, if they don't, the voting system is a joke and the credibility of the coin goes down and nobody would use it except the few that bought it, do I get it ?
concerning point 1: maybe, after distributing/dumping the value could go down, but could also find a market based balance which is higher - many factors would be influential concerning point 2: yes, the voting system as proposed is a joke - it's not a democracy but a dictatorship Well you could either dump everything and hope that somehow it might works or they can control the distribution and ensure that it works then no ? |
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hehe, direct democracy at its finest Haha, yeah, that was my point, you gotta to start somewhere, but what do you propose ? No, I'm not Visma. It's always bad practice in a democracy when a single voter can overrule everybody else. That's a point nobody would disagree, but the question was more like how would *you* do it ? As any democracy does it, distribute votes to the people. That's the role of the voting system no ? One is tempted to believe so: Within a year after launch, NeuCoin holders will effectively take full control of the NeuCoin foundations. [...] NeuCoin holders will be able to “vote their coins” (1 NeuCoin = 1 vote). With a majority vote, coin holders will be able to:
- Remove Council Members and Enforcers
- Change the compensation of Council Members and Enforcers
- [...]
BUT... Now, please tell me, how will Neucon holders effectively take control after a year when a majority of all coins is still controlled by the same individuals (foundations)? If all the coins are dumped to everybody, the value of the coin goes down effectively killing it or putting it aside, if they don't, the voting system is a joke and the credibility of the coin goes down and nobody would use it except the few that bought it, do I get it ? |
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