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1  Economy / Investor-based games / DoubleCoin.XYZ = HonestDoubler = Scam on: September 28, 2015, 02:59:07 PM
Please do not invest in this!
You have been warned.



Ok. So, this ponzi is over as expected, but I do not expect them to run away with user funds too soon.
I'm pretty sure no one has been paid yet, so I'm sorry for your loss to whoever invest in this scam. You have been warned too. Roll Eyes

Fast Edit:
The game is not over yet. They just block my country from accessing their website.
This just proves that you are HonestDoubler by doing so.

FYI, I am from Malaysia. Smiley
Find a Malaysia proxy or VPN if you want to experience what I've experienced.

I'm pretty sure that they do not know that I can access their website again if I change the address and location of my IP to another country by using Tor browser, or any free or paid VPN service. Roll Eyes

This won't stop me though.

Invest with very extreme caution.



- snip -
My username may sound dumb (and contain the word "dumb" too), but do you think I'm dumb enough to make all the previous post?
Now I am confused if I am dumb or you are the one who is dumb here. Just admit it already.

Nice try though, but do you think that will stop me? Roll Eyes

- Dumb.
2  Economy / Investor-based games / DoubleCoin.XYZ = HonestDoubler = scam on: September 28, 2015, 01:20:56 PM
Please do not invest in this!
You have been warned.



hmm if your accusation or should i say theory is correct wouldn't be this a good news to early birds? i mean honestdoubler made a smooth run for almost a month , so it means that there is a possibility that doublecoin.xyz will also last that long before it will also "collapse" like what happened to honestdoubler or this is just a back up plan made solely to scam users?
If I were you, I will not say that my accusations is just mere theory.
Good news to the "early birds"? - Oh goat! Are you serious?!
Just accept the fact that this is HonestDoubler v2 and do not give him another chance to scam more innocent people! Roll Eyes


Another ponzi site.
Invest only small amount,if you want to multiple your bitcoins.
Invest,only on new site,and wait for big deposits,to receive your payment.
This is a new ponzi site. - NO!
I recommend you to not invest no more than 1 satoshi.

Very good observations. I've noticed a lot of this, too. For example their tabs say the same as HonestDoubler. With "How to?" "Talk" and "Support" it for sure looks the same. Plus the timer countdown and user statistics look very similar as well. And of course the highrollers, paid and the troll box. All of these things was what HonestDoubler had.

I think you're on to something but if it's true the HD admin really isn't that creative.
At least someone appreciate my "observation"! Kiss

Everything in DoubleCoin is the same with HonestDoubler. They just change the design of their website. No more than that.

For instance, the user page.
HonestDoubler user page: https://i.imgur.com/DvH7MHx.png
DoubleCoin user page: https://i.imgur.com/WfPNYIQ.png

Did you notice any similarity in the picture? Roll Eyes

Disclaimer: I do not own any of the Bitcoin address in the picture.

Another example, the design of the thread.
HonestDouber thread: Here | Here(archive)
DoubleCoin thread: Here | Here(archive)

In both of the thread, it contains the pros and the description of their website.

HonestDoubler pros:
Quote from: HonestDoubler pros
- 100% return on investment right after 100 hours
- 15% referral commission, paid instantly on third confirmation
- simple, fast and clean design   
- secure and ddos protected   
- transparent and honest from the beginning

DoubleCoin pros:
Quote from: DoubleCoin pros
200% return on investment, payout right after 100 hours.
Payment and transaction system automatically within 15 minutes.
Fast respond and reply from staffs.
15% commission, will be paid on third confirmation.
Simple, fast, and perspicuous.
Completely safe from sniffers and DDOS.
Protect your data in the network with HTTPS.
Transparent with reporting account balance system.
The text that have been bolded and italicized are the same. I mean, almost all HonestDoubler pros is copied by DoubleCoin, but with a twist though.


HonestDoubler, description:
Quote from: HonestDoubler, description
HonestDoubler.com is an independent webapplication, which was designed by professional web developers from scratch! Our goal is to establish an transparent longterm bitcoin investment platform for high risk investors and gamblers. Please consider the risks and invest only what you can afford to lose. For more information check "How to?" at HonestDoubler.com.

DoubleCoin, description:
Quote from: DoubleCoin, description
DoubleCoin.xyz is a web application, which was designed by professional web developers! Our ultimate goal is to make the transparent and highest profit possible investment platform for long-term investors.
Do you want me to explain? - Please, no. Tongue

Did you notice that HonestDoubler said their website has been designed by professional web developers from scratch?
In DoubleCoin, they did not say anything about their website being designed from scratch, but instead they only said their website has been designed by professional web developers.

That is because they are just reusing their HonestDoubler script, but with a twist though. Roll Eyes

I have more, but I'm just too lazy to post it. Roll Eyes

How much did you lost at honestdoubler?
I do not lost anything to them. Roll Eyes

If this is honestdoubler then...
@Admin
Will you run a giveaway?
I doubt they will do so, but I am not sure though.

I'm wondering, do they have a custom, self-made script, or they are buying them somewhere? Smiley
HonestDoubler and DoubleCoin are using the same self-made script.

We sincerely admit we've copied the rules and 'How to?' from Honestdoubler. But, we are not the same owner. We'd had a bad experiences on that site, being one of the victims. It makes us think that we should make it better, so we open our service in the name of DoubleCoin.xyz

Please give us a chance.

If you have any question, please contact staff@doublecoin.xyz. We'd be happy to answer all of the questions you might have.

For questions regarding the URL, we will explain in later time.
Do you think I will believe you after what you have done to me in your trollbox? I mean, you just prove yourself that you are HonestDoubler when you delete my messages and mute me from using your trollbox.

Duh, why don't you just admit that you are HonestDoubler?
Victim of your own scam? - Lol. You just made my day. Roll Eyes

No one should give you another chance to make another scam attempt. I mean, why should anyone do that?

That is similar to ask a robber to rob you twice.

It will not be like that. Because DoubleCoin's Admin had a bad experiences on that site, being one of the victims.
Our goal is to be the best Bitcoin doubler website. So our website won't scam.
Time will tell. You will scam sooner or later.

- Dumb.
3  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: DoubleCoin.XYZ - Double your bitcoin in 100 hours. on: September 27, 2015, 06:04:23 PM
I know everyone who read this will probably think that I am just trolling, but this ain't a joke!
No trolling - promise!

For people who are lazy to read:
Long story short, this is HonestDoubler v2!



Why you think DoubleCoin is the v2 of HonestDoubler?
Because this can be proven in many ways!

CONTENT
Proof 1
Proof 2
Proof 3
Bonus!



Proof 1
So, proof 1 is about the script they use.
I will try to explain proof 1 as simple as possible.

DoubleCoin user page: https://doublecoin.xyz/user.php?user=1PqcdH76vzhJeuvk1RWF6iJkP4H3jU8y66
When you go to this url, you will see this text "This user doesn't exist.".

HonestDoubler user page:  http://honestdoubler.com/user.php?user=1PqcdH76vzhJeuvk1RWF6iJkP4H3jU8y66
When you go to this url, you will see this text "no address found".

"This user doesn't exist." and "no address found" is basically has the same meaning.

My main point is, did you notice the text bolded with red? I'm pretty sure you know what I'm referring to.
Duh, they are the same!

So, if you concerned about your money, do not invest in this!

Disclaimer: 1PqcdH76vzhJeuvk1RWF6iJkP4H3jU8y66 is a random Bitcoin address generated with BitAddress. I did not copy the private key when this Bitcoin address is generated.



Proof 2
Welcome to Proof 2! Smiley
Enjoy your read and let DoubleCoin buried deep into the ground!

For people who are lazy to read:
Long story short about proof 2, their "How to?" and "Rules" is the same!

Very long version - not really Tongue
So, proof 2 is about their "How to?" and "Rules".

DoubleCoin "How to?":
Code:
What or Who is DoubleCoin?
- DoubleCoin is a simple gambling platform.

What makes you honest?
- We place a very high value on transparency. Only on our platform you can monitor all deposits of any user in real-time at any time. Only on our platform you get all the information how the platform actually works.

How do you generate profits?
- All profits are generated by new deposits, and that is the gambling factor. If there are no new deposits, payouts will be halted. That is why you should be a responsible gambler and deposit only funds you can afford to lose. Also, you can help convince new user/deposits to assure the payouts. Your efforts will be honored in our affiliate program.

How do I deposit?
- Step 1: Enter your bitcoin address on the main page. (We will use it for payouts.)
- Step 2: Deposit any amount (min 0.001 BTC) to the generated “deposit address”
- Step 3: Wait till the countdown reaches zero and get 200% back if there is enough balance to pay you.

Do you charge any fee for providing your services?
- No, we do not charge any fee, but a small amount of all deposits is used for promotional purpose and to cover the costs of the service.

Are you protected against DDoS attacks?
- Yes, we are using the strongest DDoS protection in the industry with 100% up-time guarantee. Our worldwide web servers are protected by CloudFlare, the world's largest and most trusted DDoS protection and mitigation provider.

Which cryptocurrencies do you accept?
- We currently accept Bitcoin.

How long does it take for my deposit to be added?
- Usually your deposit is added as soon as it appears on the bitcoin Network. Contact our customer support if your transaction has at least 3 confirmations and is still missing on our platform.

Can I make additional deposits to the deposit address?
- Yes, there is no limitation. You can make as many deposits as you want to the address given in the second step. Also, you can generate as many Deposit addresses as you wish, by simply provide another payout address

The timer of my deposit just reached zero, when will you process my payout?
- The payout is fully automated and usually takes around 15 minutes. In some cases the payout could be delayed up to 12 hours, because we need to refill the hot wallet. Please be patient.

How can I contact you?
- If you have any problems or further questions, you are most welcome to contact us using our friendly customer support.

How does your referral program work?
- Share your referral Link with others and convince new user/deposits. You will get 15% of all deposited funds trough your referral link. Generated referral commission is paid instantly as soon as referral deposit is confirmed by at least 3 confirmations on the bitcoin Network. It is paid to the address you provided in the first step.

Where is my referral link?
- Enter your payout address into Stats page to see your referral link

Where can I see statistics for my payout address?
- You can see extensive statistics by clicking on your payout address in the transaction table, or by clicking the stats button on the main page.

Transactions table explanation.
- Every transaction generated on the bitcoin network by deposited coins to addresses provided by our application, are recorded instantly in our transactions table.
- User: Addresses provided by users for payouts.
- In: Deposited amounts.
- Conf.: Confirmations for the transaction on the bitcoin network.
- Out: Amount for payout.
- Status: Status of the deposit:
- confirming: the deposit has less than 6 confirmations.
- confirmed: the deposit has more than 6 confirmations but the timer has not reached 0 yet.
- paid: deposit was paid.
- Timer: As soon as it hits 0, your deposit will be paid, if there is enough balance.

HonestDoubler "How to?":
Code:
What or Who is HonestDoubler?
HonestDoubler is a simple gambling platform.

What makes you honest?
We place a very high value on transparency. Only on our platform you can monitor all deposits of any user in real-time at any time. Only on our platform you get all the information how the platform actually works.

How do you generate profits?
All profits are generated by new deposits, and that is the gambling factor. If there are no new deposits, payouts will be halted. That is why you should be a responsible gambler and deposit only funds you can afford to lose. Also, you can help convince new user/deposits to assure the payouts. Your efforts will be honored in our affiliate program.

How do I deposit?
Step 1: Enter your bitcoin address on the main page. (We will use it for payouts.)
Step 2: Deposit any amount (min 0.001 BTC) to the generated “deposit address”
Step 3: Wait till the countdown reaches zero and get 200% back if there is enough balance to pay you.

Do you charge any fee for providing your services?
No, we do not charge any fee, but a small amount of all deposits is used for promotional purpose and to cover the costs of the service.

Are you protected against DDoS attacks?
Yes, we are using the strongest DDoS protection in the industry with 100% up-time guarantee. Our worldwide web servers are protected by CloudFlare, the world's largest and most trusted DDoS protection and mitigation provider.

Which cryptocurrencies do you accept?
We currently accept Bitcoin.

How long does it take for my deposit to be added?
Usually your deposit is added as soon as it appears on the bitcoin Network. Contact our customer support if your transaction has at least 3 confirmations and is still missing on our platform.

Can I make additional deposits to the deposit address?
Yes, there is no limitation. You can make as many deposits as you want to the address given in the second step. Also, you can generate as many Deposit addresses as you wish, by simply provide another payout address

Why is there a small grey/blue dot next to my deposit/payout amount in the table?
Dots represent proofs for that transaction on our page. That means that you can see the transaction id of the payment by clicking on it. The deposit transaction id is available when you made a deposit. The payout transaction id will be available after processing of the payout.

The timer of my deposit just reached zero, when will you process my payout?
The payout is fully automated and usually takes around 15 minutes. In some cases the payout could be delayed up to 12 hours, because we need to refill the hot wallet. Please be patient.

How can I contact you?
If you have any problems or further questions, you are most welcome to contact us using our friendly customer support.

How does your referral program work?
Share your referral Link with others and convince new user/deposits. You will get 15% of all deposited funds trough your referral link. Generated referral commission is paid instantly as soon as referral deposit is confirmed by at least 4 confirmations on the bitcoin Network. It is paid to the address you provided in the first step.

Where is my referral link?
Enter your payout address into the main box to see your referral link

Where can I see statistics for my payout address?
You can see extensive statistics by clicking on your payout address in the transaction table, or by clicking the stats button on the main page.

Transactions table explanation.
Every transaction generated on the bitcoin network by deposited coins to addresses provided by our application, are recorded instantly in our transactions table.
User: Addresses provided by users for payouts.
In: Deposited amounts.
Conf.: Confirmations for the transaction on the bitcoin network.
Out: Amount for payout.
Status: Status of the deposit:
confirming: the deposit has less than 6 confirmations.
confirmed: the deposit has more than 6 confirmations but the timer has not reached 0 yet.
paid: deposit was paid.
Timer: As soon as it hits 0, your deposit will be paid, if there is enough balance.

DoubleCoin "Rules":
Code:
By depositing funds into DoubleCoin.xyz, you agree to the following Rules & Terms & Conditions.

1. All deposits are Bets or Donations. Your deposit is donated to the previous users. And you bet that there will be enough new deposits to cover your bet after 100 hours. If there won't be enough new deposits, your deposit is lost.
2. There is absolutely no guarantee of payment!
3. You will deposit only what you can afford to lose.
4. You expressly agree, that all deposited funds may get lost at any time.
5. Minimum deposit is 0.001 bitcoin. All deposits under the limit are counted as donations.
6. All Deposits are irreversible. There are no refunds.
7. You are allowed to generate as many deposit addresses as you wish by providing another payout address. All payouts are performed to the provided address only. Listed addresses can not be changed at any circumstances. Since bitcoin transactions are irreversible, you are responsible for any loss caused by providing an incorrect payout address or caused by losing the access to your payout address.
8. All deposits are used as donation to the previous users, for promotional purpose and to cover costs to run the program. Deposited amounts are multiplied after 100 hours and paid back to the provided payout address. But only if there is enough balance to cover your payout.
9. Balance is generated by new deposits only.
10. If there is not enough balance to cover your payout, it is lost. There is no claim to be paid or refunded!
11. You expressly agree, that conditions of our program such as investment time and return on investment may change at any time.
12. Payments are executed as soon as the timer reaches zero (+15 min.). Delays up to 12 hours are possible but not usual.

Remember: Our highest priority at any time, is to keep our promise and to pay you. But we can do so only if there is enough balance, that is generated by new deposits only! Please be responsible, deposit only what you can afford to lose. There are no guarantees to be paid! All deposits are irreversible, no refunds!

HonestDoubler "Rules":
Code:
By depositing funds into HonestDoubler.com, you agree to the following Rules & Terms & Conditions.


1. All deposits are Bets or Donations. Your deposit is donated to the previous users. And you bet that there will be enough new deposits to cover your bet after 100 hours. If there won't be enough new deposits, your deposit is lost.
2. There is absolutely no guarantee of payment!
3. You will deposit only what you can afford to lose.
4. You expressly agree, that all deposited funds may get lost at any time.
5. Minimum deposit is 0.001 bitcoin. All deposits under the limit are counted as donations.
6. All Deposits are irreversible. There are no refunds.
7. You are allowed to generate as many deposit addresses as you wish by providing another payout address. All payouts are performed to the provided address only. Listed addresses can not be changed at any circumstances. Since bitcoin transactions are irreversible, you are responsible for any loss caused by providing an incorrect payout address or caused by losing the access to your payout address.
8. All deposits are used as donation to the previous users, for promotional purpose and to cover costs to run the program. Deposited amounts are multiplied after 100 hours and paid back to the provided payout address. But only if there is enough balance to cover your payout.
9. Balance is generated by new deposits only.
10. If there is not enough balance to cover your payout, it is lost. There is no claim to be paid or refunded!
11. All Deposits are irreversible. There are no refunds!
12. You expressly agree, that conditions of our program such as investment time and return on investment may change at any time.
13. Payments are executed as soon as the timer reaches zero (+15 min.). Delays up to 12 hours are possible but not usual.

Remember: Our highest priority at any time, is to keep our promise and to pay you. But we can do so only if there is enough balance, that is generated by new deposits only! Please be responsible, deposit only what you can afford to lose. There are no guarantees to be paid! All deposits are irreversible, no refunds!

Did you see the similarity in them?
If so, then you probably already get the idea.

Again, if you concerned about your money, do not invest in this!



Proof 3
Sadly, I don't have the damn picture of HonestDoubler "Statistics"...so, there is nothing you can read here. Sad
I'll update "Proof 3" if the picture that I need can be found.



BONUS!
PS: I've talked to DoubleCoin in their trollbox about this, but all of my messages has been deleted. So, you have been warned!



Please do not invest in this!
You have been warned.



Good luck to all the risk taker. Smiley

- Dumb.
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