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1  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: FortuneJack Casino Refuses to Pay 20 BTC Won From Jackpot! on: May 31, 2019, 11:16:21 AM
lol what makes you think I'm going alone? There are more than a dozen people that have acknowledged the validity of my claim and are willing to follow suit. You've worked with David you know if he had an explanation or something to say he would be no doubt front and center as we speak addressing the situation but instead they removed me from their discord server and their staff had been rummaging into my account since I brought this up.

If true, why do you continue to complain on a brain wash forum and ask gamblers?

I'm just asking for a public response. Best to hear the answer straight from the source. I mean, has anyone seen proof from them that I'm wrong? I presented my proof. Doesn't get more solid than the coverpage of their Sign-Up page without the T&C agreement.
2  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: FortuneJack Casino Refuses to Pay 20 BTC Won From Jackpot! on: May 30, 2019, 11:50:44 PM
I checked mobile version and ToS is not on sign-up screen. However, I couldn't sign-up so I can't either confirm or deny that it is/was possible to sign up without checking ToS box. Another thing is, IIRC, FJ did send message to everyone when they changed ToS - does it apply to users who were not forced to agree to ToS in order to use FJ's services? I would say no, but I would also say that it doesn't apply to anyone. If you want people to agree to new terms and conditions - they have to agree by ticking that box, every time changes are made.

Would anyone agree if FJ change ToS and put in there "we will take 50% of your deposit as a fee for our service", doesn't share this with players and simple start taking 50% just because they said they will?  I don't think anyone would.

That is nothing different than any other change in ToS. The rule "we can change our ToS every time we want" is correct, but when they do change it, they need to inform users about it and users need to confirm that they are aware of changes and that they agree with new ToS.

Whatever is not in ToS doesn't apply as a rule.

These are all holes in system and if OP is telling the truth they should hire a lawyer. (of course, if you have received compensation from them and you took it - in that case you should lock this topic, I don't think you have a case then).
Nope I said previously T&C that is enforced upon players is only enforced at the time of through the remainder of your interaction with the website from then on. It would not apply to any matters prior to that point.

Other than that, what you said is pretty much on point. Glad someone still uses the power of basic deduction, instead of going on 10 separate tangents of why I shouldn't be getting any money.

Also, covered that part to, I let people know that it wouldn't apply to everyone.
3  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: FortuneJack Casino Refuses to Pay 20 BTC Won From Jackpot! on: May 30, 2019, 11:48:02 PM
These are all holes in system and if OP is telling the truth they should hire a lawyer. (of course, if you have received compensation from them and you took it - in that case you should lock this topic, I don't think you have a case then).
Agreed, and he did, 4 months ago.
Let's just recap what this person just said Lardo. Do you notice something? If OP is telling the truth then it doesn't matter what they gave me. Also even though game-protect is like the Saul of BTCtalk. He's right. I didn't sign anything, also matters were handled outside of the website domain so it wouldn't affect regardless. Also, you notice how FJ hasn't said anything regarding another individual 20 dollars and bonus spins? Pettiness on a whole another level lol.
4  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: May 30, 2019, 08:06:52 AM
Any update on the broken and misleading 'Adrenaline' game in the Provably Fair section? I was told that you were working on a fix that made it provably fair, and here we are 4 months later. Too profitable for you to make it provably fair?  Tongue

Hi Darkstar_

The game falls under Randomly Fair subcategory, but I can confirm that is still under development to make 100% provably fair. Company takes responsibility, that if our attempts to redevelop it to 100% provably fair is still not successful within by the end of the third quarter, we will take down the game completely.


pssst if you don't know that's code for, "We're gonna see how many more people we can rip off while we still can".
5  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: May 30, 2019, 05:34:40 AM
Any update on the broken and misleading 'Adrenaline' game in the Provably Fair section? I was told that you were working on a fix that made it provably fair, and here we are 4 months later. Too profitable for you to make it provably fair?  Tongue

I was under the impression that there had been an update, perhaps I misread it? I'll bring this up in discord, too.
lol always so quick to get on both knees. Your boyfriend must love you a lot huh.

I have been trying to tell them that they ran a rigged system. But the trolls here love to knock people. I have been gambling to too long to know a rigged casino when I see one.

No, you were trolling and claiming that their dice is rigged. All other claimed provably fair games are fine to my knowledge. You should really learn the mathematics of gambling and provably fair systems when you gamble instead of training your brain to 'recognize if a casino is rigged'.
Lol funny how you say that but FortuneJack can't provide the evidence. Also more than one person has said it specifically about this casino. It's OK though you're a facts guy. Guess if you can't see facts you can't make sound judgements. How you gonna talk about gambling to gamblers. Bet you never even took a chance with a coin flip you pussy.

ffs check the algorithm yourself and verify your own bets instead of being lazy.

I don't play coin flips but I've wagered around 50 BTC this past year on sports across a few sportsbooks. I think I'm at around 15-20 BTC wagered on FJ's book and am part of their 'Jack's Club' thing. I don't see how personal attacks help your point.
Wtf who's attacking you. You wanna be boy scout every post I see you in so go ahead and do it. If you can disprove what he's saying then I won't butt in on anything you say ever again. If you can't though. Then ima need you to stfu. Shit see there you go, you got some extra funds wagering 1 BTC to get to the bottom of it all won't even scratch you.
6  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: May 30, 2019, 05:26:39 AM
Any update on the broken and misleading 'Adrenaline' game in the Provably Fair section? I was told that you were working on a fix that made it provably fair, and here we are 4 months later. Too profitable for you to make it provably fair?  Tongue

I was under the impression that there had been an update, perhaps I misread it? I'll bring this up in discord, too.
lol always so quick to get on both knees. Your boyfriend must love you a lot huh.

I have been trying to tell them that they ran a rigged system. But the trolls here love to knock people. I have been gambling to too long to know a rigged casino when I see one.

No, you were trolling and claiming that their dice is rigged. All other claimed provably fair games are fine to my knowledge. You should really learn the mathematics of gambling and provably fair systems when you gamble instead of training your brain to 'recognize if a casino is rigged'.
Lol funny how you say that but FortuneJack can't provide the evidence. Also more than one person has said it specifically about this casino. It's OK though you're a facts guy. Guess if you can't see facts you can't make sound judgements. How you gonna talk about gambling to gamblers. Bet you never even took a chance with a coin flip you pussy.
7  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: May 30, 2019, 03:08:42 AM
Any update on the broken and misleading 'Adrenaline' game in the Provably Fair section? I was told that you were working on a fix that made it provably fair, and here we are 4 months later. Too profitable for you to make it provably fair?  Tongue

I was under the impression that there had been an update, perhaps I misread it? I'll bring this up in discord, too.
lol always so quick to get on both knees. Your boyfriend must love you a lot huh.
8  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: May 30, 2019, 01:30:15 AM
Gambling addicts that can't handle a loss are so.. annoying.
lol oh you mean FortuneJack. You right Halfass.
9  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: May 30, 2019, 12:18:12 AM
We haven't received any notice from Askgamblers that the case has been reopened.

Just blowing smoke, I wouldn't worry about it too much (oh look they went inactive again). It's probably like Lauda sad, they lost the settlement funds and now got greedy and wants more  Cheesy

Absolutely, in this case company is believed to be 100% honest on BTC TALK and on Askgamblers as well and we believe that cases is fairly closed. We choose not to enter any discussions in person or in private with player anymore, as he already gave us enough reasons to consider him unstable and unreliable. Making our community happy with FJ experience is our only goal and time should not be wasted on this matter I believe.


David.
Hey, David if what you're saying is true why are you going to such great lengths to cover up your missing T&C clickwraps? So your pretending to act casual, and say things like 100% honesty, but what's honest? Have you told your players they haven't been subject to your T&C? Have you told your gamblers that they're free to request repayment for all forfeited winnings? Tell me where your honesty is. I mean I have the original photos so I can't possibly be lying. Also, just FYI jackass your new T&C doesn't affect any previous users who haven't clickwrapped. It's only affective at time of and so forth. You know what in fact just bring a Nexus correspondent because your clearly incapable of coming to terms with the fact that your companies sitting on such a huge loss, yet there you are trying to whip up a miracle. Hope you're feeling as smug as you sound. Cheers!
You bring a lot of accusations to FJ but from what I can see you don't have any proves that what you are saying is true. Anyone can go and talk bad things about every gambling website but unless you can provide people some proofs you words are worthless because over the years FortuneJack has proven to be one of the most trusted gambling websites existing out there.
Shit proofs?! You want the proofs?! You can't handle the proofs! My boy David why don't you tell 'em how you completely ignoring the German kid who just signed up on your site last week. He be telling me right after he mentioned he never agreed to any terms and conditions, you guys sent him a response saying the problem is now solved. But David why you don't give him his 1st deposit bonus and spins he asking for? Clearly he never saw or agreed to the T&C. Shit he said he was literally begging you guys. That's some clear company integrity right there. Now don't you be lying to people saying you never knew about it because I know that staff of yours go straight to you when things are amiss at FortuneJunk. There's your proofs your troofs, and all of that other good reading material. "Play at Fortunejack! We'll fight you for your twenty!"
10  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: May 29, 2019, 02:06:49 PM
Fortunejack is an all-time best casino website. I like every section of this casino. But I always have Sports, Dice, and Casino above it. 1st June I will play Afghanistan vs Australia match And see if there are so many new types of casino games available here. Those who really fascinate the mind. Some days ago, my account balance was reduced to be withdrawn. In two days I'll deposit again and start playing new games from casinos.
awee isn't he great folks how about a big round of applause for our little trooper. Did your FortuneDaddy write that for you? Your almost all growed up little RayRay. Nobody told you to write those things did they? You did it all by yourself because you's a big boy isn't that right?
11  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: May 29, 2019, 01:18:16 PM
We haven't received any notice from Askgamblers that the case has been reopened.

Just blowing smoke, I wouldn't worry about it too much (oh look they went inactive again). It's probably like Lauda sad, they lost the settlement funds and now got greedy and wants more  Cheesy

Absolutely, in this case company is believed to be 100% honest on BTC TALK and on Askgamblers as well and we believe that cases is fairly closed. We choose not to enter any discussions in person or in private with player anymore, as he already gave us enough reasons to consider him unstable and unreliable. Making our community happy with FJ experience is our only goal and time should not be wasted on this matter I believe.


David.
Hey, David if what you're saying is true why are you going to such great lengths to cover up your missing T&C clickwraps? So your pretending to act casual, and say things like 100% honesty, but what's honest? Have you told your players they haven't been subject to your T&C? Have you told your gamblers that they're free to request repayment for all forfeited winnings? Tell me where your honesty is. I mean I have the original photos so I can't possibly be lying. Also, just FYI jackass your new T&C doesn't affect any previous users who haven't clickwrapped. It's only affective at time of and so forth. You know what in fact just bring a Nexus correspondent because your clearly incapable of coming to terms with the fact that your companies sitting on such a huge loss, yet there you are trying to whip up a miracle. Hope you're feeling as smug as you sound. Cheers!
12  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: May 28, 2019, 08:47:56 PM
We haven't received any notice from Askgamblers that the case has been reopened.
Neither have I received an appropriate response from any FortuneJack staff regarding this matter. Tell me how do you propose to refund people that have not agreed to your T&C and are not held liable to them?

Also I haven't seen any of your staff trying to deny the allegations, so you guys do admit that all such information I have provided thus far is true, I'm correct in my understanding of such matters correct? So everyone on this forum should acknowledge at least that much. Surely the company knows this outweighs more than just one persons entitlement to any sort of winnings.
13  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: May 25, 2019, 06:09:16 PM
PS if I take this to court all of your T&C will be VOID for the event as well as any other event that has occurred prior.

They're clearly not going to do anything about it on the forum. Go hire a lawyer and take yourself to court - you would actually get somewhere (potentially).
lol what makes you think I'm going alone? There are more than a dozen people that have acknowledged the validity of my claim and are willing to follow suit. You've worked with David you know if he had an explanation or something to say he would be no doubt front and center as we speak addressing the situation but instead they removed me from their discord server and their staff had been rummaging into my account since I brought this up.

@verusfides in case you failed to notice that was sarcasm from DarkStar, but never mind do file a suit against FJ blow up your money in legal expenses but don’t expect them to pay you back those expenses which you will fully incurred. It doesn’t matter if you read those terms or not, the very fact those were there on the site when you broke them means you have no legal case. Last but not the least your local court will not entertain this case as FJ will not be subject to your country laws, so my advice would be to move on and forget this episode.
who brought this dumb ass. T&C is void without agreement in any courtroom. In any court all their T&C is void because I never agreed to it. Why act like you know something when you haven't done your research on it jackass.
14  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: May 25, 2019, 09:17:58 AM
PS if I take this to court all of your T&C will be VOID for the event as well as any other event that has occurred prior.

They're clearly not going to do anything about it on the forum. Go hire a lawyer and take yourself to court - you would actually get somewhere (potentially).
lol what makes you think I'm going alone? There are more than a dozen people that have acknowledged the validity of my claim and are willing to follow suit. You've worked with David you know if he had an explanation or something to say he would be no doubt front and center as we speak addressing the situation but instead they removed me from their discord server and their staff had been rummaging into my account since I brought this up.
15  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: May 24, 2019, 04:51:54 PM

Except this time these guys don't have any explanation not to the public and not to me. Look even now they remove me from their discord for spreading this story. They're in my own fj account for what fucking reason lol.
16  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: FortuneJack Casino Refuses to Pay 20 BTC Won From Jackpot! on: May 24, 2019, 04:22:45 PM
You're missing the bigger picture here. There was a story David told me about one player who had claimed over 300 BTC from a bug. Im sure there is more than one person like this imagine they found out they were never bound by T&C. They would have to pay. Also why do I need to prove it anyways I'm confident they already have all that information at hand and I'm sure they know what I say is true. I don't need to scam anybody they just dug their own graves.
If stories, rumours, claims are true, then go via the legal option. You can't adequately prove them here, if you could then this case would be trivial. FJ isn't even that active on any of these platforms. What someone knows, thinks, might have said or actually said, I don't care without evidence. My rating stands until you can provide satisfying/adequate proof of said claim(s).

The biased baboon teeGUMES can go away. This case is too large for his brain to process.
whoa you started the bias first in the new origin post I'm willing to fly out to whatever strip of land they're in and take more than what I should've got. Look it now these clowns kicked me off their Discord page for what reason? You and I both know if David could fight this battle he 100% would. You've seen him before goes so far as to provide every detailed fucking log. Why can't he say something here? Best action is to drop me from FJ discord. They know they can't hide from this and shit if enough people feel they are entitled to a reward guess we gonna have an international class action. Think they can provide rooms for everyone before they run out of money? I mean they could've just paid me right from the start instead they had to get technical.
17  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: FortuneJack Casino Refuses to Pay 20 BTC Won From Jackpot! on: May 24, 2019, 04:07:51 PM
I don’t see anything about the T&C on the Mobile version. If you don’t affirmatively accept the T&C, they cannot bind you to it.

Mentioning it is insufficient. You must take affirmative action to accept it.

Also the user Lauda fails to realize this is the site as is now. When I first had that account opened it simply asked by checking the box you agree you are over 21 years of age in the district you reside in. Something along those lines. Was too wordy on age restriction with no T&C agreement.
Can you prove this? If not, go away. You won't get any money I stand firm on this as I have before.
http://imgur.com/JmKDFCp

Feel free to fuck off now stubborn little shit stick.
Can you prove that you've signed up on the mobile version? You can not. Which, combined with the timeline of the re-opening means that you are a greedy liar trying to scam FortuneJack. Prove me wrong.

Why don't you stop trying to save the Titanic. It's a done deal they know it. I know cuhz their discord mod tried to delete my post and only after I had asked if that's really the best thing to do atm they stopped. So stop unless you recently made commissions with them you have no reason to protect and if you do commission with them then you deserve to be on that sinking ship so fuck outta my way.
I'm extremely sensitive to lying. Your next response will either prove or destroy the case for good. Prove that you signed up without clicking the checkbox.

Editing does not work, I've tagged you with an archived version.

Cheerio.
You're missing the bigger picture here. There was a story David told me about one player who had claimed over 300 BTC from a bug. Im sure there is more than one person like this imagine they found out they were never bound by T&C. They would have to pay. Also why do I need to prove it anyways I'm confident they already have all that information at hand and I'm sure they know what I say is true. I don't need to scam anybody they just dug their own graves.
18  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: FortuneJack Casino Refuses to Pay 20 BTC Won From Jackpot! on: May 24, 2019, 03:53:18 PM
I don’t see anything about the T&C on the Mobile version. If you don’t affirmatively accept the T&C, they cannot bind you to it.

Mentioning it is insufficient. You must take affirmative action to accept it.

Also the user Lauda fails to realize this is the site as is now. When I first had that account opened it simply asked by checking the box you agree you are over 21 years of age in the district you reside in. Something along those lines. Was too wordy on age restriction with no T&C agreement.
Can you prove this? If not, go away. You won't get any money I stand firm on this as I have before.
http://imgur.com/JmKDFCp

Feel free to fuck off now stubborn little shit stick.
Can you prove that you've signed up on the mobile version? You can not. Which, combined with the timeline of the re-opening means that you are a greedy liar trying to scam FortuneJack. Prove me wrong.

Why don't you stop trying to save the Titanic. It's a done deal they know it. I know cuhz their discord mod tried to delete my post and only after I had asked if that's really the best thing to do atm they stopped. So stop unless you recently made commissions with them you have no reason to protect and if you do commission with them then you deserve to be on that sinking ship so fuck outta my way.
I'm extremely sensitive to lying. Your next response will either prove or destroy the case for good. Prove that you signed up without clicking the checkbox.
Dear everybody who signed up on that site before it got revamped knows there were never any highlighted yellow letters labeled Terms and Conditions. Back then the only thing on sign up said by checking this box you acknowledge you are 21 years of age in the residence you reside in. Shit was so wordy you couldn't fit Terms and Conditions on the same page.

I removed a post because I feel I'm getting more aggressive towards you than I should be so I apologize for that. But I know the only reason why they would try to do something as stupid as what they did on their discord is because they know what I say is truth. It's truth they can't even hide from because it's their own fault.
19  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: FortuneJack Casino Refuses to Pay 20 BTC Won From Jackpot! on: May 24, 2019, 03:35:54 PM
I don’t see anything about the T&C on the Mobile version. If you don’t affirmatively accept the T&C, they cannot bind you to it.

Mentioning it is insufficient. You must take affirmative action to accept it.

Also the user Lauda fails to realize this is the site as is now. When I first had that account opened it simply asked by checking the box you agree you are over 21 years of age in the district you reside in. Something along those lines. Was too wordy on age restriction with no T&C agreement.
Can you prove this? If not, go away. You won't get any money I stand firm on this as I have before.
http://imgur.com/JmKDFCp

Feel free to fuck off now stubborn little shit stick.

Why don't you stop trying to save the Titanic. It's a done deal they know it. I know cuhz their discord mod tried to delete my post and only after I had asked if that's really the best thing to do atm they stopped. So stop unless you recently made commissions with them you have no reason to protect and if you do commission with them then you deserve to be on that sinking ship so fuck outta my way.
20  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: May 24, 2019, 03:05:46 PM
I reopened this case with askGamblers today and I'd like to inform everyone on the forum and players of the site that with the research I have done I am more than entitled to that money and FortuneJack should no longer have a say in this matter.

The reason I say this with such confidence is this. Fortunejack does not bind or notify players of its T&C. Not when you sign up, not when you try to get your bonuses, never. Since I have never adhered to such terms and conditions or willfully agreed by terms or clickwrap. (A form of T&C agreement which makes you check a box before finishing sign up to the website or before making use of their services.) You guys are more than welcome to check yourselves that this is true. I the player having not been notified of such T&C till the winnings were removed from me and even then I was not told to abide by the terms and conditions. Since I have never entered any agreement. All the bug winnings play and plinko jackpot plays. So God damn it hand me my jackpot or I'll fly over there and have you cover the flight, the hotel fees and the days I missed work because you guys had no right to take anything from me in the first place!

PS if I take this to court all of your T&C will be VOID for the event as well as any other event that has occurred prior.

PSS this rule applies to a good amount of players. So if any of you guys on here are players of FortuneJack and have been wronged. You can apply this so they can't hide behind their T&C.

Explain your way out of this one David.

Edit: Just to clarify this applies to;

1. Any account holder who signed up prior to the websites revamp when the Terms and Conditions were not clickwrapped (makes you check a box saying you agree to the T&C).

2. Any account holder who have currently signed up via mobile device which shows no T&C agreement anywhere before or after sign ups.


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